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  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    Fantastic work. :)

    I think the Captains Yacht has 2 device slots though, not 1.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    lol they are adding more ships (2 shuttles) faster than you can adapt. lol
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    Vulcan Sci Ship's stats are wrong on the chart

    Yeah, uh... that really doesn't help. :confused: I don't have the Vulcan ship. Gimme the stats and I'll see about correcting them.
    Starfish1 wrote:
    Fantastic work. :)

    I think the Captains Yacht has 2 device slots though, not 1.

    Got it. Thx! Updated on the newest version I just uploaded (v8.1.0)
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    Just for everyone's information:
    I've been having some hosting issues today. (all those past lives, you know :D - sorry, couldn't resist). Anyway, I've temporarily put the shipcharts on a picture site with no file size limit, but has a bit of a limit on bandwidth. I have a couple of prospects that I'm pursuing, but I wanted to tell everyone what was going on.

    To those that have emailed me about this: thanks for the info. Currently, your links will not work, as my main site was suspended. :mad: I would direct everyone to this forum's original post for the most current links to the charts. I've also updated STOwiki to this effect too.

    http://bit.ly/stoshipchart will always redirect to the top of this forum post, where the links are up-to-date. Thanks for everyone's patience while I get this sorted out.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    If you are having hosting issues I can give you some space on my domain for hosting the charts if you want? (with FTP rights for updating the versions too ofc).
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    Suricata wrote: »
    If you are having hosting issues I can give you some space on my domain for hosting the charts if you want? (with FTP rights for updating the versions too ofc).

    Hey Suri, that's really appreciated & very cool of you to offer. :cool: I'm supposed to meet a friend tomorrow at lunch that's going to try to give me the hook up. If not, I may just take you up on that offer! I should know in a few days & I'll touch base when I find out.

    Thx again, man!
    ~mitch



    EDIT: My friend came through; got a discount on hosting. Thanks again for the offer!
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    How do you tell the shield Modifier of ships? Both on the chart or in general? For example the Cardassian Galor Class has a Shield Modifier: 1.175 making it one of the strongest shield tanking cruisers. I believe most science ships have modifiers as well and Escorts get negative modifiers . Is there a spot on the chart I missed or in the wiki?

    Great chart bythe way. This is no means a complaint just a wondering.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    So...

    using this site : http://spidermitch.com/sto , All I get is a white box on a black background. There's supposed to be some kind of Flash stuff going on, but I don't see any of it. And as far as I can tell, Flash is up to date.

    Something you might want to look at.

    Thank you for the time...
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    Tymer wrote: »
    So...

    using this site : http://spidermitch.com/sto , All I get is a white box on a black background. There's supposed to be some kind of Flash stuff going on, but I don't see any of it. And as far as I can tell, Flash is up to date.

    Something you might want to look at.

    Thank you for the time...

    That link works fine for me. The problem appears to be on your end.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    SsP45 wrote: »
    That link works fine for me. The problem appears to be on your end.

    flash works fine but click on either badge klink or fed gets me a red x on a white background where the image should be.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    Hey spider :) Not sure if anyone has pointed this out yet, but I believe the Yellowstone has a crew of 5, not 4.

    Dimitar :D
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    The C-store description say 4, but ship requisitions say 5. Both of these things have been known to be wrong in the past.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    I just reclaimed the ship on one of my characters and it states 5 on the requisition window, when I bring the ship up in the shipyard it states Crew Compliment: 5, Alive Crew: 5. When I hover over the crew bar in sector space it says Crew: 5/5.

    I always thought it was 4, because that's what I remember seeing as the descriptor in the C-Store, but looks like it's actually 5. :)

    Hope that helps?
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    website does not work with firefox, IE tho works fine :(
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    I must say that is one of the best charts for any game Ive ever seen. Much Cudos.

    My only request is (and it probably has to do with that Im not QUITE so familiar with the Klingon side) I would like an indicator of what ship types are. Sci/tac/eng.

    But VERY nice tho!
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    I think you have mixed up Star Cruiser impulse.mod(15, but chart says 20) with Tactical Escort - Retrofif impulse.mod(20, but chart says 15)
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    Much praise given for the continuing evolution of the site SM...wonderful job!
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    I am so glad this is a 'current' project!! I remember when I could look at your 'Fed' and 'Klingon' pages for ST-O ships info. I always looked before I 'bought; a ship... to see which was the best (for me!)!
    Unfortunately... now I look at your pages and give up about 20 sdconds in.. as the pages do not scrolll correctly!!

    Bummer!!

    What can I say......

    Please sort !!!!!!


    Thanks


    NEMESIS007!!!
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    yogurt21 wrote:
    flash works fine but click on either badge klink or fed gets me a red x on a white background where the image should be.
    OttoVonCat wrote: »
    website does not work with firefox, IE tho works fine :(
    NEMESIS007 wrote: »
    I am so glad this is a 'current' project!! I remember when I could look at your 'Fed' and 'Klingon' pages for ST-O ships info. I always looked before I 'bought; a ship... to see which was the best (for me!)!
    Unfortunately... now I look at your pages and give up about 20 sdconds in.. as the pages do not scrolll correctly!!

    Well, guys, I've tried on several different computers with several different browsers to repeat this error unsuccessfully. I've no doubt that you're having issues accessing the content, but I can't seem to get the same results here. To be proactive, I changed the .html redirects to an embeded .jpg on the html... Maybe that will help? Please try again, and let me know, as I have no way to reproduce the issue.

    P.S. please make sure to delete your browser's cache so you get the new content correctly.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    Starfish1 wrote:
    I just reclaimed the ship on one of my characters and it states 5 on the requisition window, when I bring the ship up in the shipyard it states Crew Compliment: 5, Alive Crew: 5. When I hover over the crew bar in sector space it says Crew: 5/5.

    I always thought it was 4, because that's what I remember seeing as the descriptor in the C-Store, but looks like it's actually 5. :)
    Hope that helps?
    I think you have mixed up Star Cruiser impulse.mod(15, but chart says 20) with Tactical Escort - Retrofif impulse.mod(20, but chart says 15)

    Okay. These changes will go into the next version - as soon as I have a bit of time.

    I must say that is one of the best charts for any game Ive ever seen. Much Cudos.

    My only request is (and it probably has to do with that Im not QUITE so familiar with the Klingon side) I would like an indicator of what ship types are. Sci/tac/eng.
    But VERY nice tho!

    On the KDF side, there's not really Sci/Tac/Eng categories of ships. You could always claim that Tac=Raptors, Eng=Battle Cruisers, but Bird of Preys have universal BOFFs, so while their console layout suggests Tactical, their BOFF layout could be whatever you want. Then there's the Klingon Carriers: They have the ability of Subsystem Targeting (like FED Sci ships), but they also don't really fight like normal ships, as they launch pets. Then there's the alien race ships. I suppose it could be shown as Nausicaan=Tac, GORN=Sci, ORION=Eng

    But in all honestly, KDF is not layed out like the FED side. So, I opted to steer clear of the usage of class categories when naming the headers of the rows. There's Raptors, BOP, BattleCruisers, Carriers, Nausicaan Destroyers, Gorn Sci/Support Vessels, & Orion Flight-Deck Cruisers.


    If you're concerned with what ship you should fly with (for example) your Engineering captain, then you should look at BOFF layouts and see which has the bridge officers that can benefit you more... usually this means the highest bridge officer of your own profession, so you can train them with a particular skill.

    The thing about this game I've always appreciated though is that you can choose to fly whatever ship you want. Sure there's a few advantages, but just because you put a Science captain in a Raptor doesn't mean you made a bad choice. There's no right or wrong; fly the ship you want to fly!


    p.s. I'm sure there's many others on the forums who are better more qualified to answer you, just thought I'd give my two cents and it may actually help someone who's new :cool:
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    An idea for you Mitch, take all the shuttles both fed and kdf (lol...like all 3 of theirs poor fellas) and move them to a seperate shuttles graph.

    With the amount of ships that will be continued to be tossed in its fair to say that you need the space...perhaps even make a ra/va only graph at some point soon as well...were getting kinda crowded with all the fed variants.
    I noticed alot of new ships on the horizon..so you might want to consider doing the above.
    Keep up the good work :D
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    Another piece of advice in the vain of the 'shuttle/small craft' only chart above... Take the cross-faction ships and give them their own chart... as we know there will inevitably more of them too.. As a consequence it would need less updating than the other two charts.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    Quick note for those wondering about the Odyssey & Bortasqu' subclass ships: I haven't forgotten about adding these. I've been having some issues with hosting lately (including what Avast deeming my site as malicious - see original post for more info), and I've been doing my best to get that stuff resolved. That, my day job & family coming into down really slowed me down with adding these special ships.

    A few of you have recommended me doing a whole other chart. I currently don't see the chart as being overcrowded... On the contrary; I think it's finally being "filled in." I'll probably look at putting the shuttles or cross-faction ships on a seperate chart eventually, but only once I feel there is no more room for expanding the current ones.

    Anywho, I'll be going out of town again this weekend, so I hope to get the flagship stuff up there within the week. Just wanted to pop in and give a little status update.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    love the work!!! great job
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    But wait... you added in the Odyssey Advanced Cruiser (using the original Odyssey's visuals) and removed the regular Odyssey Star Cruiser.... they are still two different ships.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    Avalon304 wrote: »
    But wait... you added in the Odyssey Advanced Cruiser (using the original Odyssey's visuals) and removed the regular Odyssey Star Cruiser.... they are still two different ships.

    Since the Odyssey Star Cruiser is no longer available to purchase or to be earned any other way in-game, I removed it in lieu of adding the Advanced Odyssey Cruiser's stats. I will probably be doing the same to the Bortasqu' as soon as I get around to it (probably this weekend coming up).

    If there's a HUGE outcry to add the 2nd Anniversary variants back, I'll look into it. I'll leave it up to the community... Let me know, guys.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    Since the Odyssey Star Cruiser is no longer available to purchase or to be earned any other way in-game, I removed it in lieu of adding the Advanced Odyssey Cruiser's stats. I will probably be doing the same to the Bortasqu' as soon as I get around to it (probably this weekend coming up).

    If there's a HUGE outcry to add the 2nd Anniversary variants back, I'll look into it. I'll leave it up to the community... Let me know, guys.

    I'll be honest. If you pulled the 2nd Anv Odyssey, then you should pull the Bug & the Galor for the same reasons. While players may still have Cardie Drop boxes, they aren't available through normal means now.

    As to fitting the 2nd Anv Odyssey back in, why not add a 4th box on the side and add a second BOff row.

    And for the love of it. Make it easier to access the bloody things. It might be my machine/ISP, but your portal page still gives me grief and the only way I can get to them is through STOWiki. And the KDF doesn't want to show up at all.

    I truly appreciate all the effort and work you put into these. I just don't want to go through bloody hoops to get to them.

    Thank you for the time....
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    Yes, the 2nd anniversary ship should be included just for the sake of completeness. Or remove the Galor and Bug for the same reason as the 2nd anniversary ship.

    You also need the proper visuals for the Odyssey Advanced Cruiser, youre still using the 2nd anniversary visuals.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    I think the 2nd anniversary ship should be included because if your helping some one with a build it good for a quick reference point to keep the layout fresh in mind.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    I too would like to see the 2nd Anniversary Edition ships remain on the Chart. Perhaps you can skip the picutre (are they even different, visually?), and just put a small "variant" box displaying the title and stats.
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