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  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    Blackavaar wrote: »
    Here is the first batch of Academy uniforms...
    Command Division Instructor and Declared Cadet (red) added to costume slots 47 & 48. Thanks Lord Blackavaar, another set of fine work.

    And yes, I love the new color coding. Makes it all the more faster to duplicate your patterns. :D
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    Blackavaar wrote: »
    I am working on the guides now. I've got the colors down but the screen shots are proving difficult with the current Tailor zoom issues.

    For anyone in a hurry here are the numbers.

    Cadet uniforms:
    Command Division Top: F15 A11 H2
    Command Division Pants: H1 A11
    Shoes: H1

    Sciences Division Top: F15 E12 H2
    Command Division Pants: H1 E12
    Shoes: H1

    Operations Division Top: F15 C12 H2
    Command Division Pants: H1 C12
    Shoes: H1

    Instructor uniforms:
    Command Division Top: H1 A11 A4
    Command Division Pants: H1 A11
    Shoes: H1

    Sciences Division Top: H1 E12 E4
    Command Division Pants: H1 E12
    Shoes: H1

    Operations Division Top: H1 C12 C4
    Command Division Pants: H1 C12
    Shoes: H1

    The full guides will be up soon.
    Until then, Enjoy!


    :cool:

    Hey thanks now i have a reference guide for later on and those colors are very similar to ones that i picked a lot of them are the color next to the ones I chose for example I use f14 for the blue because of the color settings on my computers monitor and the fact I do not run the game with all settings maxed out.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    Hi Black! I was just looking at the newly released 25th century cadet uniforms and it's brought up a couple of questions:

    Now that they've been added, will the 25th century cadet uniform guides you created stay available?

    If they are staying, will you update them to match the colouring used for the new cadet uniforms or just keep them as they are...or both perhaps?

    Thanks again for all your work mate. :)
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    Command Division Instructor and Declared Cadet (red) added to costume slots 47 & 48. Thanks Lord Blackavaar, another set of fine work.

    And yes, I love the new color coding. Makes it all the more faster to duplicate your patterns. :D

    Thanks, Vetinari. And you are very welcome.
    LtSmith wrote:
    Hey thanks now i have a reference guide for later on and those colors are very similar to ones that i picked a lot of them are the color next to the ones I chose for example I use f14 for the blue because of the color settings on my computers monitor and the fact I do not run the game with all settings maxed out.

    You are very welcome as well.
    Alan_81 wrote: »
    Hi Black! I was just looking at the newly released 25th century cadet uniforms and it's brought up a couple of questions:

    Now that they've been added, will the 25th century cadet uniform guides you created stay available?

    If they are staying, will you update them to match the colouring used for the new cadet uniforms or just keep them as they are...or both perhaps?

    Thanks again for all your work mate. :)

    Yes, the previously created Cadet versions of the Antares and Sierra uniforms will remain. You may notice that the Antares 01 versions have already been updated to the new style. (In fact all Antares 01 uniforms have been updated.) New additions based on the new color scheme may be added in time.

    Keep watching.


    :cool:
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    Blackavaar wrote: »
    <respectfully snipped>
    Yes, the previously created Cadet versions of the Antares and Sierra uniforms will remain. You may notice that the Antares 01 versions have already been updated to the new style. (In fact all Antares 01 uniforms have been updated.) New additions based on the new color scheme may be added in time.

    Keep watching.


    :cool:

    :eek: Have they? Oh boy, I really let the ball slip on this. I'm usually watching this thread like a hawk. I promise never to slack like that again. :o

    I'll go check those newly updated guides right now and look forward to the updated cadet uniforms guides using the new colours. Thanks for the quick answers! :cool:
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    I've figured out how I'm going to go about doing the Veteran Shoulders for the KDF. As I am creating these for uniforms that already have guides, I have decided to do the Veteran Shoulders similar to the way I created the Details guides for the Feds. Below is an example along with the revised TOS Klingon guide.

    TOS Klingon
    TOS Klingon Veteran

    I hope you all approve of this decision. More will be added soon.


    :cool:
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    Blackavaar wrote: »
    ...I hope you all approve of this decision. More will be added soon.
    Vetinari Approved. Carry on.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    The following uniforms have been added to the 25th Century Cadets section:

    Academy Cadet Uniforms:

    Command Declared Skirt
    Operations Declared Skirt
    Sciences Declared Skirt

    Academy Instructor Uniforms:

    Command Division Skirt
    Operations Division Skirt
    Sciences Division Skirt
    Medical Division Skirt

    Academy Services

    Exchange
    Bank and Mail Services
    Club 602

    Enjoy!


    :cool:
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    Also, the following Klingon uniforms have been updated and Veteran guides have been added for them.

    WoK/SfS (Wrath of Khan/Search for Spock) Uniforms

    WoK Klingon Command
    WoK Klingon Crew

    WoK Klingon Veteran

    UC (Undiscovered Country) Uniforms

    UC Klingon Command
    UC Klingon Command 2
    UC Klingon Crew

    UC Klingon Veteran

    Enjoy!


    :cool:
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    I just added the Academy Tailor uniform as well.

    :cool:
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    Keep up the greaat work Blackavaar. I enjoy using all your guides.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    Keep up the greaat work Blackavaar. I enjoy using all your guides.

    Thanks, IGB!

    One more. This one is of my own devising.

    Section 31 Recruiter

    Enjoy!


    :cool:
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    Blackavaar wrote: »
    The following uniforms have been added to the 25th Century Cadets section:

    Academy Cadet Uniforms:

    Command Declared Skirt
    Operations Declared Skirt
    Sciences Declared Skirt

    Academy Instructor Uniforms:

    Command Division Skirt
    Operations Division Skirt
    Sciences Division Skirt
    Medical Division Skirt

    Academy Services

    Exchange
    Bank and Mail Services
    Club 602

    Enjoy!


    :cool:
    Blackavaar wrote: »
    Also, the following Klingon uniforms have been updated and Veteran guides have been added for them.

    WoK/SfS (Wrath of Khan/Search for Spock) Uniforms

    WoK Klingon Command
    WoK Klingon Crew

    WoK Klingon Veteran

    UC (Undiscovered Country) Uniforms

    UC Klingon Command
    UC Klingon Command 2
    UC Klingon Crew

    UC Klingon Veteran

    Enjoy!


    :cool:
    Blackavaar wrote: »
    I just added the Academy Tailor uniform as well.

    :cool:
    Blackavaar wrote: »
    Thanks, IGB!

    One more. This one is of my own devising.

    Section 31 Recruiter

    Enjoy!


    :cool:

    Huzzah!!!! Great work once again, pal! All greatly appreciated! Keep it up! Looking forward to your next updates!

    Speaking of updates....just had an update patch for STO and it looks like the Tailor zoom is properly working again! Hurrah!
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    The following Klingon guides have been updated to the new style and Veteran Shoulder guides have been added to go with them.

    DS9 (Deep Space Nine) Uniforms

    DS9 Klingon Female 1
    DS9 Klingon Female 2
    DS9 Klingon Female 3
    DS9 Klingon Male 1
    DS9 Klingon Male 2

    DS9 Klingon Female Veteran

    DS9 Klingon Mercenary 1
    DS9 Klingon Mercenary 2
    DS9 Klingon Mercenary 3

    DS9 Klingon Mercenary Veteran

    Qapla'!


    :cool:
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2011
    Z3R0B4NG wrote: »
    actually for the TNG Movie / late DS9 Uniforms there is a little confusion on my part.

    Sometimes they are shown clearly as Grey (what you did)
    but in the movies they often seem more dark blue-purple-gey-ish

    some pics to compare:

    http://images.sabob.com/products/images/1/Deluxe_Deep_Space_Nine_Star_Trek_Uniform_Red_Shirt.jpeg
    http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm106/Linnear1701/Blog%20Photos/Data.jpg
    http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Lifeandhealth/Pix/pictures/2009/4/23/1240485483740/Star-Trek-fashion-Michael-006.jpg
    http://img.trekmovie.com/images/merchandise/tng_movies_bd/shots/nemesis_35.jpg
    http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/memoryalpha/en/images/thumb/d/de/Miles_O%27Brien,_2375.jpg/292px-Miles_O%27Brien,_2375.jpg


    i would realy appriciate if the color's would be set to the default color by the game the first time you selct another uniform.

    They are dark purple-grey and the closest color i found to reproduce the effect is g13 for shoulders.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    Hey, Black, just thought I'd let you know that my STO Main and his Bridge Officers use a Sierra-1 Uniform Variant that might work well as "Alternative Canon" if someone doesn't want to use gray on their uniforms. :)

    Here's the Uniform Layout and Color Scheme:



    Top: Sierra-1 (H1, Division Color, H1 [If Male Open Jacket, Undershirt Color is H1])
    Division Colors: Command-A7; Science-F8; Engineering-C10
    Combadge: Alternate Future (A6, A2) (Can be substituted for any other Combadge)
    Rank Insignia: A1
    Legwear: Pants - Loose Long Standard (H1)
    Footwear Soft Boots (H1)


    I'd be honored if you were to add my layout to the Sierra-1 section as an alternative Variant. :D:cool:
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    hey, blackavaar, are you ever going to do the bluer versions of the Enterprise uniforms used in the later seasons?
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    KiraYamato wrote:
    Hey, Black, just thought I'd let you know that my STO Main and his Bridge Officers use a Sierra-1 Uniform Variant that might work well as "Alternative Canon" if someone doesn't want to use gray on their uniforms. :)

    Here's the Uniform Layout and Color Scheme:



    Top: Sierra-1 (H1, Division Color, H1 [If Male Open Jacket, Undershirt Color is H1])
    Division Colors: Command-A7; Science-F8; Engineering-C10
    Combadge: Alternate Future (A6, A2) (Can be substituted for any other Combadge)
    Rank Insignia: A1
    Legwear: Pants - Loose Long Standard (H1)
    Footwear Soft Boots (H1)


    I'd be honored if you were to add my layout to the Sierra-1 section as an alternative Variant. :D:cool:

    Once I finish updating the guides I will be considering doing additional variants. I've been taking note of some nice Antares and Sierra uniforms on NPCs lately and I really want to add them to the collection. I will gladly take your suggestion as well.
    hey, blackavaar, are you ever going to do the bluer versions of the Enterprise uniforms used in the later seasons?

    Like I said above, additional variants will be considered once the guides are updated. I've already started taking new screen shots for variants such as the later season ENT and TNG-DS9 era Academy Instructors uniforms.

    :cool:
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    Blackavaar wrote: »
    Once I finish updating the guides I will be considering doing additional variants. I've been taking note of some nice Antares and Sierra uniforms on NPCs lately and I really want to add them to the collection. I will gladly take your suggestion as well.

    :cool:

    NICE!!! :)

    I look forward to seeing those variants once you're done updating. :D:cool:
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    Hi again Blackavaar.
    How goes the work with the guide updating? All running smoothly for you I hope.
    I was wondering if once you're done updating the guides and working on everyone else's requests if you'd consider putting your mind in to creating uniform variants for non-commissioned officers? I hope its something you'll consider pal once you have a free moment or several for yourself. :)

    I look forward to seeing the complete range of updated guides. :cool:
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    Alan_81 wrote: »
    Hi again Blackavaar.
    How goes the work with the guide updating? All running smoothly for you I hope.
    I was wondering if once you're done updating the guides and working on everyone else's requests if you'd consider putting your mind in to creating uniform variants for non-commissioned officers? I hope its something you'll consider pal once you have a free moment or several for yourself. :)

    I look forward to seeing the complete range of updated guides. :cool:

    Hello, Alan.

    All goes well. The guides for all Antares uniforms have been updated to the new style. Sierra 01 uniforms have also been updated. These, however, are still in need of new screen shots and revised UI, since some options are no longer available (Padded Boots for males) and other options now are (Terran Empire badge). I have been working on those screen shots and more over the weekend and will further revise those already revised guides as well as more.

    I've got a little surprise I worked on as I was doing the 25th Century stuff that I had simply not thought of before. Keep watching. More updates to come.

    Edit: And yes, I will certainly consider doing a selection of Noncom guides.


    :cool:
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    Blackavaar wrote: »
    Hello, Alan.

    All goes well. The guides for all Antares uniforms have been updated to the new style. Sierra 01 uniforms have also been updated. These, however, are still in need of new screen shots and revised UI, since some options are no longer available (Padded Boots for males) and other options now are (Terran Empire badge). I have been working on those screen shots and more over the weekend and will further revise those already revised guides as well as more.

    I've got a little surprise I worked on as I was doing the 25th Century stuff that I had simply not thought of before. Keep watching. More updates to come.

    Edit: And yes, I will certainly consider doing a selection of Noncom guides.


    :cool:

    Glad to hear that things are moving along. I'm sure we're all looking forward to seeing the updates guides, your 25th century surprise, and, if you decide to do them, those non-com uniforms.

    Keep up the great work! :cool:
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    Got another question for you, Blackavaar, and this is regarding the 25th century badges and rank colours. I notice in your guides the colours chop and change between gold and a sort of silvery kind of colour but in your guides for the actual badges they're all gold. Should they all be gold as your 25th century badge guides specify or Does the colour of the badges and ranks depend on the uniform being worn?

    For all my Bridge Officers I have them wearing the Antares 01 with colours all as specified in your guides for them but for my main character (a Vice Admiral) when I have him wearing any uniform outside of the VA jacket such as the Antares 01 uniform I always have his rank and badge in gold (colour box A2) to show he is a flag officer. What do you think about this? Should a VA out in the field, commanding a ship, have such obvious badge and rank colours?

    I look forward to your thoughts on this. :cool:
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    Alan_81 wrote: »
    Got another question for you, Blackavaar, and this is regarding the 25th century badges and rank colours. I notice in your guides the colours chop and change between gold and a sort of silvery kind of colour but in your guides for the actual badges they're all gold. Should they all be gold as your 25th century badge guides specify or Does the colour of the badges and ranks depend on the uniform being worn?

    For all my Bridge Officers I have them wearing the Antares 01 with colours all as specified in your guides for them but for my main character (a Vice Admiral) when I have him wearing any uniform outside of the VA jacket such as the Antares 01 uniform I always have his rank and badge in gold (colour box A2) to show he is a flag officer. What do you think about this? Should a VA out in the field, commanding a ship, have such obvious badge and rank colours?

    I look forward to your thoughts on this. :cool:

    Well, the badges on the uniform guides are done for each specific uniform as it is seen on NPCs in-game. The badge guide is generalized. I just used the color most commonly worn by NPCs, which seems to be A2. So, the individual guides would be most accurate.

    And as for an Admiral standing out, it's not like he's walking around on a front line somewhere. The Admiral badge in TMP was gold, while everyone else wore silver. I think standing out fits in with canon very well.


    :cool:
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    Blackavaar wrote: »
    Well, the badges on the uniform guides are done for each specific uniform as it is seen on NPCs in-game. The badge guide is generalized. I just used the color most commonly worn by NPCs, which seems to be A2. So, the individual guides would be most accurate.

    And as for an Admiral standing out, it's not like he's walking around on a front line somewhere. The Admiral badge in TMP was gold, while everyone else wore silver. I think standing out fits in with canon very well.


    :cool:

    Thanks for responding, bud. By "individual guides" do you mean the uniform guides or the badge guides?

    So by drawing on that reference you made to Kirk wearing a gold admirals badge in TMP (albeit one he is wearing on an admirals uniform I think), you don't see it being unreasonable for a 25th century VA to be going out on away teams wearing the same uniform as everyone else except for a gold badge and rank pips to distinguish him? If so, then maybe you could make a wee additional note on your guides to say that Admiral's have option of gold badge and rank insignia for their uniforms?

    :cool:
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    Alan_81 wrote: »
    Thanks for responding, bud. By "individual guides" do you mean the uniform guides or the badge guides?

    So by drawing on that reference you made to Kirk wearing a gold admirals badge in TMP (albeit one he is wearing on an admirals uniform I think), you don't see it being unreasonable for a 25th century VA to be going out on away teams wearing the same uniform as everyone else except for a gold badge and rank pips to distinguish him? If so, then maybe you could make a wee additional note on your guides to say that Admirals have option of gold badge and rank insignia for their uniforms?

    :cool:

    Sorry, I meant uniform guides, yes.

    And I could work that in somewhere, I think.


    :cool:
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    Blackavaar wrote: »
    Sorry, I meant uniform guides, yes.

    And I could work that in somewhere, I think.


    :cool:

    Thanks for clarifying that. :)

    Cool. I just hope this doesn't mean you're gonna need to go back and redo those guides? I'd hate for you to have to go through all that.

    BTW...regarding the cadet uniforms you created shortly before the devs introduced Starfleet Academy and their take on the uniforms...In my mind and continuity I've decided that the ones you created are worn by cadets during their sophomore year posting on-board a starship or starbase. I figure your cadet uniforms would make for more practical and utilitarian wear than the devs' cadet uniforms which are more suited for a cosy classroom in San Francisco. :)

    :cool:
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    Alan_81 wrote: »
    Thanks for clarifying that. :)

    Cool. I just hope this doesn't mean you're gonna need to go back and redo those guides? I'd hate for you to have to go through all that.

    BTW...regarding the cadet uniforms you created shortly before the devs introduced Starfleet Academy and their take on the uniforms...In my mind and continuity I've decided that the ones you created are worn by cadets during their sophomore year posting on-board a starship or starbase. I figure your cadet uniforms would make for more practical and utilitarian wear than the devs' cadet uniforms which are more suited for a cosy classroom in San Francisco. :)

    :cool:

    No problem.

    No worries. I had already decided to go back and make some mods because of selection changes. I also wanted to update the screen shots while I was at it.

    And that's the same way I consider my 25th Century cadet uniforms. After all, when they are serving on your crew, you would want them to match your crew uniforms.




    At this point all Antares plus Sierra 1 and 2 uniforms have been updated. I also mixed in some Skirt variants with the regular uniforms. For those wishing to use pants with those divisional colors just use the selections for the other divisions and color appropriately.

    Pay special attention to Antares 5, Sierra 1 and the Elite Force uniforms (in the Soft Canon/Fan Choice section) as the boot selections for these have changed. The previous boot selections, Padded are no longer available for males and Bulky Tall are no longer available for females. Hopefully these will be corrected at some point, but folks using the guides shouldn't have to wait.

    :cool:
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    Blackavaar wrote: »
    And they're here!

    AGT (All Good Things) uniforms.

    Command Red
    Security/Engineering Gold
    Sciences Teal

    In addition I also made a mock-up of the Flight Suit from the Voyager episode Drive using these parts.

    VOY Drive Flight Suit

    The AGT uniforms have been added to the Canon Uniform Guide for easy reference.
    The VOY Drive Flight Suit can also be found on the Cadets, Technicians and Thugs Guide.

    I hope you all like them.
    Enjoy!


    :cool:

    Thank you very much for this. The AGT alternate future outfit is probably one my favorites. Used your color guides on two characters and their BOffs (save for my Borg, my borg wear T'pol's outfit.).

    Thanks for doing all of this, this is an immense help and great resource!
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    Blackavaar wrote: »
    No problem.

    No worries. I had already decided to go back and make some mods because of selection changes. I also wanted to update the screen shots while I was at it.

    And that's the same way I consider my 25th Century cadet uniforms. After all, when they are serving on your crew, you would want them to match your crew uniforms.




    At this point all Antares plus Sierra 1 and 2 uniforms have been updated. I also mixed in some Skirt variants with the regular uniforms. For those wishing to use pants with those divisional colors just use the selections for the other divisions and color appropriately.

    Pay special attention to Antares 5, Sierra 1 and the Elite Force uniforms (in the Soft Canon/Fan Choice section) as the boot selections for these have changed. The previous boot selections, Padded are no longer available for males and Bulky Tall are no longer available for females. Hopefully these will be corrected at some point, but folks using the guides shouldn't have to wait.

    :cool:

    Ah, so you were heading back to the guides anyway.

    Sounds like we're on the same wavelength regarding your cadet uniforms. It does make sense that they should match the uniforms worn by ship officers. Now, if only the devs will let us do something about allowing us to adjust the uniforms of the crewmembers wandering through the ship corridors I'll be very happy.

    Congrats on the latest updated uniform guides! They look great! I have several of the uniforms you've updated for the boot selection changes for my main character so I'll be adjusting them just as soon as I can.

    I was just wondering...do we know if the devs have any plans to give BOFF's more uniform slots? I'd love to go back and replay the mission where you need to go back to the 23rd century but what puts me off is having to re-buy TOS uniforms for my away team. I'd much rather have the option of changing the uniforms for my away team as easily as I can for my main character without having to dosh out the credits for them.
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