2) Cryptic has announced that they will be adding more raid content.
3) The conventional wisdom among the brighter members of the community is that the devs intended for you to be grinding out more skill points at your level. However, the higher ups in Cryptic made them put a level limit in so they could sell respecs. I know it sucks, but you will have to wait until more people get to your level and start threatening to cancel their accounts before they fix the problem.
I rescheduled my entire month to play the weekend of STO release and I had a blast doing it.
Wow...just wow...you need to do a serious priority check.
As for Cryptic, they could care less about players like you. Might be not the best practice, they may lose a paying customer, but meh, you are a minority of players who rush any MMO. There will always be such players, there's no avoiding them.
They said there will be a Content patch and the majority of their player-base will be admirals by then, until then they've got time, and, I repeat, could really care less about the minority of folks like you who rush trough the game like there's no tomorrow. Your lost monthly money to them is pocket change.
Ok look, it's my choice as to which pace I choose to level. When you pay my sub fee, then maybe you can give me advice. Until then, I suggest you stop trying to be forum posers and accept the fact that this is just wrong of Cryptic to do to us. I rescheduled my entire month to play the weekend of STO release and I had a blast doing it. So what if I made it to admiral fast? It's an MMO! Last I checked most MMOs don't even START till you max level. Get off your high horses. You wanna level slow, fine, but these games aren't meant to just be a leveling fest. They're meant to be played for a LONG time.
You do know this isn't the only game to be released without any endgame content, thats why rushing is a waste of time. They usually release endgame content later, sometimes takes a few months.
Get off your high horse and come back down to earth and the realisation of the fact that these things happen.
Wow...just wow...you need to do a serious priority check.
Why? Because I was looking forward to the release? And I suppose you fed some homeless puppies on your way home from delivering bread to the nunnery instead of logging on to STO right away? Please. It's called planning. Get over it.
And no offense, but until people start standing up and saying that this is an unacceptable approach, it will be a common trend.
- You level up your first character to 45, and waste some skill points in the process and are unable to respec..
- You create another fine tuned character you like and enjoy the content once more...
- Out of boredom you create the 3rd (last possible) character...
- You unsub after 1 month, because there is nothing else...
- You check the game after 1 year...
Sadly, this is a common theme in Space MMORPG's. Earth and Beyond lacked any endgame for a long time. Then they added the red dragon base which was, after a time, soloable. It took a year before they added the Tada-O gate and the first semblance of real raid content.
Eve has always had top level areas to fight Rats, but they were all super-generic tank and spank content where you put in someone with TRIBBLE defense skills, let him get agro, remote rep him and then melt all the rat systematically. The only 'real' endgame content is PvP. I think this is the model Cryptic is hoping to follow for a time. Let the players PvP while they build the endgame.
Even the beloved World of Warcrack had a broken endgame when it launched. Molten Core was broken in so many ways when the game was released. Broken loot tables, broken encounters, funky agro, unbalanced game mechanics between the two sides (fear ward vs. mag = easy mode), etc. It also had Onyxia, which was also broken content. Sure, you could say it had some, but it was broken/unfinished.
The only thing i can suggest is to work on gathering the items you'll need for endgame content when it is released. Resistances and blue/purple items for every slot. Or, play another game, or go to the gym. When i get frustrated with a game, I usually head to the gym. Great stress and frustration relief.
I can't quite believe that someone would willingly rush that quickly to Admiral Five and not enjoy the storylines that Cryptic have spent working on. So far, I've loved the missions I've been given. They've taken their time to learn the Star Trek universe and present it to us so that we can go visit places that were only available to our favourite characters originally.
As for setting yourself goals...the only goal I've set is to get myself an Akira/Oslo/Zephr class Escort. I'd set myself the goal during open beta to get a Saber Class, which I did, so my next goal is an Akira and Commander. After that I'll probably just hit the Hromi Cluster and get exploration badges, or spend time on PvP with my friends with our Klingons. With those we've actively taken the decision to keep ourselves as close to each other in level as possible so that we can pvp together, and it's really good fun.
So, well done mate for taking the time to potentially damage your body through lack of sleep, eating and drinking properly etc so that you could reach max level and discover that nothings there for you yet. I'm going to go back to plodding my way through it.
Levelling sucks, it's an annoyance to be done with so one can start the real game, the end game content.
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On a sidenote - I KNEW why I didn't pay for a lifetime subscription.
This is entirely the wrong attitude.
The point of an MMO is to enjoy your experience up to and including whatever endgame content there is. Don't worry though, you'll get your raidisodes in due time.
Why? Because I was looking forward to the release? And I suppose you fed some homeless puppies on your way home from delivering bread to the nunnery instead of logging on to STO right away? Please. It's called planning. Get over it.
No, because a game takes priority over anything. It causes you to reschedule your entire month. Games are serious business folks, learn from this feller, he's a bright one!
And when I say nothing I mean NOTHING. No more Missons to do. No Fleet actions. No crafting. No PvP yet. No exploration (unless you count the randomly generated generic Genesis missions). Literally nothing at all. And I outfitted my ship in green MK X almost completely in one day. I really have no goals at all anymore.
Might as well just start showing credits once we hit 45 because the game is literally over at that point.
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PROVE ME WRONG, CRYPTIC! I really want to play this game for a while but you repeatedly let us down on every point. Show me you actually care and make this game what you claimed it would be in all the interviews and dev chats. Otherwise your reputation will never recover. Remember a company named SOE and what happened to their rep after SWG? Notice any similarities here? How could you not?....
Sounds like someone grinded way to fast to me. Im sick of kids that play 24x7 on game launches to grind up then cry after a few days. I am sure more content will be coming. If you maxed out 2 days after launch something is WAY wrong with either the game or the player. That's just stupid..
2) Cryptic has announced that they will be adding more raid content.
3) The conventional wisdom among the brighter members of the community is that the devs intended for you to be grinding out more skill points at your level. However, the higher ups in Cryptic made them put a level limit in so they could sell respecs. I know it sucks, but you will have to wait until more people get to your level and start threatening to cancel their accounts before they fix the problem.
Point 3 is very very valid, with the uncapped skill point system you could continue to improve your abilities and therefore recieve some reward for churning through encounters and pvp battles...with the cap they have damaged current longevity of the game, hopefully they will flesh out klingon PVE content a bit so I can make one of those when I hit cap.
I found all of YOUR end game content, it can be found going back and doing everything from levels 1-45. Now my end game content will be different, because i would have already experienced all of that stuff.... but then again by the time I get to 45 there will be end game content.
Ok look, it's my choice as to which pace I choose to level. When you pay my sub fee, then maybe you can give me advice. Until then, I suggest you stop trying to be forum posers and accept the fact that this is just wrong of Cryptic to do to us. I rescheduled my entire month to play the weekend of STO release and I had a blast doing it. So what if I made it to admiral fast? It's an MMO! Last I checked most MMOs don't even START till you max level. Get off your high horses. You wanna level slow, fine, but these games aren't meant to just be a leveling fest. They're meant to be played for a LONG time.
When you pay my sub fee, then maybe you can give me advice.
That's where you made your mistake. If it was unsolicited comments being made to you in-game, or you sent a private note to the Cryptic Developers expressing your issues you would have a point. However the moment you decided to post about it in an open forum, you opened it up for reply comments.
Have you gone through ALL the content op? all the crafting, every single mission, maxed all three character slots? No you say? Then quit your QQ and being butthurt just because Cryptic didn't cater to you. Honestly, it never suprises me that in every mmo there are ALWAYS peeps who WHINE and CRY just because they decided to put everything on hold and burn to the max lvl right out the gate. Congrats, you have proven that you have ZERO life at all.
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Edit: Like this idiot up here that is telling the OP he has to scour the entire in-game "galaxy" for content.
Cryptic will never improve this game thanks to you snivelling fanboy apologists that will defend anything they do wrong.
"HURR don't rush through the content" is NO EXCUSE to have zero endgame content. And to the idiot that said every MMO launches with none, you are simply a moron. Every good MMO "starts" at endgame.
Seriously, I didn't even think it was possible to hate an MMO playerbase more than I hate WoW's, but you apologists that dismiss every legitimate complaint people have are seriously making me reconsider.
Sounds like someone grinded way to fast to me. Im sick of kids that play 24x7 on game launches to grind up then cry after a few days. I am sure more content will be coming. If you maxed out 2 days after launch something is WAY wrong with either the game or the player. That's just stupid..
the man obviously spent his headstart period grinding for it.
that said, there ARE mmos out there with no endgame content. and since you never did just say to list them, here are a few : Ragnarok online, Dungeon fighter online, Maplestory, Shin Megami Tensein IMAGINE.. the list goes on.
in conclusion, considering that its no secret that there wasnt really any cake to be had yet for admirals, and you still insisted on being "zomg end levalzz numbah one admirullz", only to find that there wasnt really any cake to be had, it really is just your fault for becoming a malcontent.
edit : ballocaust, you sir, quite honestly, fail. mmmos start at the inception of the character and how the game world will treat them. be it at character creation or (in some other mmos) the opening scene once you pick a class of character you'll play. to say mmos start at end level means that the moment you made your character you got dropped into the world at 99 (45 in this case). that you never once ever partied with anyone to get anything done, that you never saved up enough gold, gil, or zeny to buy something. thats quite a ludicrous statement to say, as seen in the examples i have posted.
I can't quite believe that someone would willingly rush that quickly to Admiral Five and not enjoy the storylines that Cryptic have spent working on. So far, I've loved the missions I've been given. They've taken their time to learn the Star Trek universe and present it to us so that we can go visit places that were only available to our favourite characters originally.
As for setting yourself goals...the only goal I've set is to get myself an Akira/Oslo/Zephr class Escort. I'd set myself the goal during open beta to get a Saber Class, which I did, so my next goal is an Akira and Commander. After that I'll probably just hit the Hromi Cluster and get exploration badges, or spend time on PvP with my friends with our Klingons. With those we've actively taken the decision to keep ourselves as close to each other in level as possible so that we can pvp together, and it's really good fun.
So, well done mate for taking the time to potentially damage your body through lack of sleep, eating and drinking properly etc so that you could reach max level and discover that nothings there for you yet. I'm going to go back to plodding my way through it.
Just to clarify, I don't appreciate people assuming that I damaged my body or did nothing but play all weekend. I slept at least 6-8 hours a night, went to the bar, hung with friends. Did the same thing you all do. I was in CB and OB and had done it all before and had a plan for leveling. I'm not some kid with no life. I'm a grown man with a job, a girlfriend, and bills, just like lots of you. My entire weekend wasn't filled with STO. Just most of it
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Edit: Like this idiot up here that is telling the OP he has to scour the entire in-game "galaxy" for content.
Cryptic will never improve this game thanks to you snivelling fanboy apologists that will defend anything they do wrong.
"HURR don't rush through the content" is NO EXCUSE to have zero endgame content. And to the idiot that said every MMO launches with none, you are simply a moron. Every good MMO "starts" at endgame.
Seriously, I didn't even think it was possible to hate an MMO playerbase more than I hate WoW's, but you apologists that dismiss every legitimate complaint people have are seriously making me reconsider.
I am by far a "Fanboi" of Cryptic. Far from it. The game JUST went live tuesday, and he EXPECTS engame content? That is seriously flawed. As for you, one does not have to "scour" for content, it is all there. He chose to whine about maxing out 1 character in 1 faction. Who's the "idiot"? Hmmmmmm?
Point 3 is very very valid, with the uncapped skill point system you could continue to improve your abilities and therefore recieve some reward for churning through encounters and pvp battles...with the cap they have damaged current longevity of the game, hopefully they will flesh out klingon PVE content a bit so I can make one of those when I hit cap.
Absolutely true. Fanboiism and Carebearism are so extremely prevalent here atm, it's unbelievable.
It may have to do with licence as well... sadingly, as much as I love Star Trek, having that licence attracts folks who don't belong in an M ->M<- ORPG as well. Which not only leads to the fanboiism, but also to the believe that they can impose their Solitaire / Minesweeper / Hello Kitty Online - mentality upon us, coupled with the communist ideal that everyone should have the same, regardless of effort.
Lets sum it up shall we? You had so much time on your hands you rushed to admiral in a week......Now your but hurt cuz your bored?
Ok, now go back and play the game with an alt, really look at the whole map and enjoy flying your ship for a change....No?
Look dude, sorry to be blunt, but you didnt play the game, you blindsided it like some bull in a ring, it can be done with every MMo, so dont act like you have found a new star.
Save your responce, I care little for your point of veiw as it will pass thru your head so fast you yourself wont understand it, just knpw this, for me, and other like myself, we like trying to have fun in a trek universe, explore this first chapter in a young games life.
As far as MMOs starting at endgame, I beg to differ, most endgame services the ranks coming up, and the end game for others is getting 50 people together to slay a huge beast and fight over the prize....Here they are supposed to be adding to a rich universe that has a lot of lore to pull from. I want to see it happen, so give it a chance huh?:eek: :cool:
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1) Yes, I agree it's BS.
2) Cryptic has announced that they will be adding more raid content.
3) The conventional wisdom among the brighter members of the community is that the devs intended for you to be grinding out more skill points at your level. However, the higher ups in Cryptic made them put a level limit in so they could sell respecs. I know it sucks, but you will have to wait until more people get to your level and start threatening to cancel their accounts before they fix the problem.
As for Cryptic, they could care less about players like you. Might be not the best practice, they may lose a paying customer, but meh, you are a minority of players who rush any MMO. There will always be such players, there's no avoiding them.
They said there will be a Content patch and the majority of their player-base will be admirals by then, until then they've got time, and, I repeat, could really care less about the minority of folks like you who rush trough the game like there's no tomorrow. Your lost monthly money to them is pocket change.
Totally. Mission design by copy & paste.
You do know this isn't the only game to be released without any endgame content, thats why rushing is a waste of time. They usually release endgame content later, sometimes takes a few months.
Get off your high horse and come back down to earth and the realisation of the fact that these things happen.
Get over yourself.
Why? Because I was looking forward to the release? And I suppose you fed some homeless puppies on your way home from delivering bread to the nunnery instead of logging on to STO right away? Please. It's called planning. Get over it.
And no offense, but until people start standing up and saying that this is an unacceptable approach, it will be a common trend.
- You create another fine tuned character you like and enjoy the content once more...
- Out of boredom you create the 3rd (last possible) character...
- You unsub after 1 month, because there is nothing else...
- You check the game after 1 year...
Eve has always had top level areas to fight Rats, but they were all super-generic tank and spank content where you put in someone with TRIBBLE defense skills, let him get agro, remote rep him and then melt all the rat systematically. The only 'real' endgame content is PvP. I think this is the model Cryptic is hoping to follow for a time. Let the players PvP while they build the endgame.
Even the beloved World of Warcrack had a broken endgame when it launched. Molten Core was broken in so many ways when the game was released. Broken loot tables, broken encounters, funky agro, unbalanced game mechanics between the two sides (fear ward vs. mag = easy mode), etc. It also had Onyxia, which was also broken content. Sure, you could say it had some, but it was broken/unfinished.
The only thing i can suggest is to work on gathering the items you'll need for endgame content when it is released. Resistances and blue/purple items for every slot. Or, play another game, or go to the gym. When i get frustrated with a game, I usually head to the gym. Great stress and frustration relief.
I can't quite believe that someone would willingly rush that quickly to Admiral Five and not enjoy the storylines that Cryptic have spent working on. So far, I've loved the missions I've been given. They've taken their time to learn the Star Trek universe and present it to us so that we can go visit places that were only available to our favourite characters originally.
As for setting yourself goals...the only goal I've set is to get myself an Akira/Oslo/Zephr class Escort. I'd set myself the goal during open beta to get a Saber Class, which I did, so my next goal is an Akira and Commander. After that I'll probably just hit the Hromi Cluster and get exploration badges, or spend time on PvP with my friends with our Klingons. With those we've actively taken the decision to keep ourselves as close to each other in level as possible so that we can pvp together, and it's really good fun.
So, well done mate for taking the time to potentially damage your body through lack of sleep, eating and drinking properly etc so that you could reach max level and discover that nothings there for you yet. I'm going to go back to plodding my way through it.
This is entirely the wrong attitude.
The point of an MMO is to enjoy your experience up to and including whatever endgame content there is. Don't worry though, you'll get your raidisodes in due time.
Just as boring as doing daily mandatory security rounds as security guard....
Just as boring as doing daily patrols in the demilitarized zone between North/South Korea....
Just as boring as doing [insert mundane, mandatory and boring task here]....
Some will crop up eventually though.
QFT ... 10 letter
Point 3 is very very valid, with the uncapped skill point system you could continue to improve your abilities and therefore recieve some reward for churning through encounters and pvp battles...with the cap they have damaged current longevity of the game, hopefully they will flesh out klingon PVE content a bit so I can make one of those when I hit cap.
start roleplaying foo
This is true, you are entitled to do that with your subscription fee.
That's where you made your mistake. If it was unsolicited comments being made to you in-game, or you sent a private note to the Cryptic Developers expressing your issues you would have a point. However the moment you decided to post about it in an open forum, you opened it up for reply comments.
Which just further negates any of the points you brought up. Everyone is a 'poser' unless they agree with me! Yep, that makes the point.
Edit: Like this idiot up here that is telling the OP he has to scour the entire in-game "galaxy" for content.
Cryptic will never improve this game thanks to you snivelling fanboy apologists that will defend anything they do wrong.
"HURR don't rush through the content" is NO EXCUSE to have zero endgame content. And to the idiot that said every MMO launches with none, you are simply a moron. Every good MMO "starts" at endgame.
Seriously, I didn't even think it was possible to hate an MMO playerbase more than I hate WoW's, but you apologists that dismiss every legitimate complaint people have are seriously making me reconsider.
the man obviously spent his headstart period grinding for it.
that said, there ARE mmos out there with no endgame content. and since you never did just say to list them, here are a few : Ragnarok online, Dungeon fighter online, Maplestory, Shin Megami Tensein IMAGINE.. the list goes on.
in conclusion, considering that its no secret that there wasnt really any cake to be had yet for admirals, and you still insisted on being "zomg end levalzz numbah one admirullz", only to find that there wasnt really any cake to be had, it really is just your fault for becoming a malcontent.
edit : ballocaust, you sir, quite honestly, fail. mmmos start at the inception of the character and how the game world will treat them. be it at character creation or (in some other mmos) the opening scene once you pick a class of character you'll play. to say mmos start at end level means that the moment you made your character you got dropped into the world at 99 (45 in this case). that you never once ever partied with anyone to get anything done, that you never saved up enough gold, gil, or zeny to buy something. thats quite a ludicrous statement to say, as seen in the examples i have posted.
Just to clarify, I don't appreciate people assuming that I damaged my body or did nothing but play all weekend. I slept at least 6-8 hours a night, went to the bar, hung with friends. Did the same thing you all do. I was in CB and OB and had done it all before and had a plan for leveling. I'm not some kid with no life. I'm a grown man with a job, a girlfriend, and bills, just like lots of you. My entire weekend wasn't filled with STO. Just most of it
This... Totally this....
I am by far a "Fanboi" of Cryptic. Far from it. The game JUST went live tuesday, and he EXPECTS engame content? That is seriously flawed. As for you, one does not have to "scour" for content, it is all there. He chose to whine about maxing out 1 character in 1 faction. Who's the "idiot"? Hmmmmmm?
I agree.
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Absolutely true. Fanboiism and Carebearism are so extremely prevalent here atm, it's unbelievable.
It may have to do with licence as well... sadingly, as much as I love Star Trek, having that licence attracts folks who don't belong in an M ->M<- ORPG as well. Which not only leads to the fanboiism, but also to the believe that they can impose their Solitaire / Minesweeper / Hello Kitty Online - mentality upon us, coupled with the communist ideal that everyone should have the same, regardless of effort.
Sad, but true.
Lets sum it up shall we? You had so much time on your hands you rushed to admiral in a week......Now your but hurt cuz your bored?
Ok, now go back and play the game with an alt, really look at the whole map and enjoy flying your ship for a change....No?
Look dude, sorry to be blunt, but you didnt play the game, you blindsided it like some bull in a ring, it can be done with every MMo, so dont act like you have found a new star.
Save your responce, I care little for your point of veiw as it will pass thru your head so fast you yourself wont understand it, just knpw this, for me, and other like myself, we like trying to have fun in a trek universe, explore this first chapter in a young games life.
As far as MMOs starting at endgame, I beg to differ, most endgame services the ranks coming up, and the end game for others is getting 50 people together to slay a huge beast and fight over the prize....Here they are supposed to be adding to a rich universe that has a lot of lore to pull from. I want to see it happen, so give it a chance huh?:eek: :cool: