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An Admiral Speaks: No Endgame Content.... At All (Spoiler Alert)
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EDIT: Over the past few hours of this rivaling a downtime thread, I've looked closer at some info coming from the Devs and listened to some constructive comments from the posters. While a lot of this post may sound discouraging, bear in mind a LOT of these issues will be addressed in the next couple weeks, not just in the 45 day patch. This post was ONLY made because I love the game and want to, at times, be vocal in my feedback and the ways to improve it. While there are still some issues that need to be addressed, I am optimistic as to the upcoming endgame content and do not want players still leveling to feel there is nothing to look forward to. Take your time to level up and enjoy the game. I'm re-rolling to do just that in the meantime.
(original thread edited due to information received or mistakes I made in my research)
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Well just hit Admiral 5 and, to my dismay, there is absolutely NO endgame content in place. None. In fact after you rank up to Admiral, the quests just stop coming. There's no "way to go" there's no serious loot. There's nothing. Sure some of you will want to say "well you hit Admiral too fast" but that's not the point. The point is there is NOTHING at all to do at 45. Not a single thing except maybe pvp once the Klingons get Admiral. It's so blatantly neglected that it's almost offensive.
And when I say nothing I mean NOTHING. No more Missons to do. No Fleet actions. No crafting. No PvP yet. No exploration (unless you count the randomly generated generic Genesis missions). Literally nothing at all. And I outfitted my ship in green MK X almost completely in one day. I really have no goals at all anymore.
Might as well just start showing credits once we hit 45 because the game is literally over at that point.
EDIT: Fixed due to the fact that Memory Alpha apparently works now
Now let's talk about the fact that there is NO WAY to form a raid, or get your fleet together and do a fleet action. In fact, there's no fleet actions after the Crystalline Entity. So all of us who are commander and above have nothing at all to do together. And even if we did, we'd have to hopefully all hop into the same instance to work together.
Oh, and the skill distribution. Letting us max out only one at tier 5 and put another 7 points elsewhere? Even if the eventual cap will be 50 this is just so dumb for a release.
EDIT: Fixed due to upcoming content
On a final note, spare me the "It's a new MMO and shouldn't have endgame yet" because those are the words of a blind sheep and have no real bearing in logical discussion. Anyone with any business sense would have noticed from other MMOs how fast people level up and want endgame content. The amount of broken/incomplete content is astounding and really discouraging. I see this and think "even if they follow through with all the hot air they've been spewing, when, if ever, can we expect it?" I just can't believe that they have much in the works for the 45 day patch. No mention yet from anyone on crafting or anything else major. Really finding it harder and harder to believe in this game after seeing all there is to see (literally) in a span of 5 days.
PROVE ME WRONG, CRYPTIC! I really want to play this game for a while but you repeatedly let us down on every point. Show me you actually care and make this game what you claimed it would be in all the interviews and dev chats.
(original thread edited due to information received or mistakes I made in my research)
Cheers
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Well just hit Admiral 5 and, to my dismay, there is absolutely NO endgame content in place. None. In fact after you rank up to Admiral, the quests just stop coming. There's no "way to go" there's no serious loot. There's nothing. Sure some of you will want to say "well you hit Admiral too fast" but that's not the point. The point is there is NOTHING at all to do at 45. Not a single thing except maybe pvp once the Klingons get Admiral. It's so blatantly neglected that it's almost offensive.
And when I say nothing I mean NOTHING. No more Missons to do. No Fleet actions. No crafting. No PvP yet. No exploration (unless you count the randomly generated generic Genesis missions). Literally nothing at all. And I outfitted my ship in green MK X almost completely in one day. I really have no goals at all anymore.
Might as well just start showing credits once we hit 45 because the game is literally over at that point.
EDIT: Fixed due to the fact that Memory Alpha apparently works now
Now let's talk about the fact that there is NO WAY to form a raid, or get your fleet together and do a fleet action. In fact, there's no fleet actions after the Crystalline Entity. So all of us who are commander and above have nothing at all to do together. And even if we did, we'd have to hopefully all hop into the same instance to work together.
Oh, and the skill distribution. Letting us max out only one at tier 5 and put another 7 points elsewhere? Even if the eventual cap will be 50 this is just so dumb for a release.
EDIT: Fixed due to upcoming content
On a final note, spare me the "It's a new MMO and shouldn't have endgame yet" because those are the words of a blind sheep and have no real bearing in logical discussion. Anyone with any business sense would have noticed from other MMOs how fast people level up and want endgame content. The amount of broken/incomplete content is astounding and really discouraging. I see this and think "even if they follow through with all the hot air they've been spewing, when, if ever, can we expect it?" I just can't believe that they have much in the works for the 45 day patch. No mention yet from anyone on crafting or anything else major. Really finding it harder and harder to believe in this game after seeing all there is to see (literally) in a span of 5 days.
PROVE ME WRONG, CRYPTIC! I really want to play this game for a while but you repeatedly let us down on every point. Show me you actually care and make this game what you claimed it would be in all the interviews and dev chats.
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OMG....Your funny
/yawn
Seriously. The game has been available to you for 6 days. And you're max-level. Wow. By any measure, you rushed. You set a goal for yourself to get to max level as fast as you could. And you did it. Congrats.
Have you never played an MMO at release before? This is ALWAYS WHAT HAPPENS to people who pick up an MMO at release and rush to max level. They find nothing waiting for them. It is never any different. WoW at release. People rushed to cap. Found nothing. EQ1...EQ2...LOTRO... The list just goes on.
Just... don't rush to cap in an MMO at release. You'll always find nothing.
Guess you missed the part about being a sheep. The point is there is NO endgame at ALL. So even if I took, say, a month to level.. then what? Wait? Endgame content is a hard lesson many devs have learned and here we go again...
Well to his defence, leveling is really quick if you follow the missions. But his points have merit a bit. There should be at least ONE top tier fleetaction to play in and get gear.
Another lesson is don't underestimate your player base and put out enough content to last only a week.
This is a MMO and you are supposed to be able to play these things for YEARS, if there is not content beyond the level cap that is a joke.
And youre missing the point. You rushed and got burnt. That happens with every MMO. Even WoW had no real endgame content 6 days after launch.
Kudos for maxing out in 6 days and having nothing to do. You deserve it.
took me a year to get to 80 on WAR
right now im at lieutenant 8 ..
So im happy at the moment, i work, i have a girlfriend
I just cant sit on the game 12 hours a day like some...
and you know what thats a good thing
If you were in beta then you knew this all ready.
All we can do is wait and hope.
Didn't miss it. Just saw what everyone knew was coming..... Joe Spaz rushes through the game, then complains about lack of content.
/yawn.
1) Start another Federation toon (maybe challenge yourself to find every anamoly on every map you are on)
2) Start a Klingon toon
3) Quit (you can always come back in 45 days)
Did I miss anything? :rolleyes:
Heck I'm only level 71 in another MMO, the name escapes me at the moment, and it took me over 3 years to get to that level.
So three years time in STO I'll be wallowing in end game, I'd have a coffee in the meantime if I were you... you've got a long wait ahead.
There releaseing end game conten and raid content in a weeks time + new content after that every 3 weeks so be patient w8 for more ppl to hit admiral so you can raid when the content gets out.
This is true. even if it took you a month to get there and there is nothing there your going to be loosing subs, there needs to be SOMETHING in place to where a high level needs to work for and many online games have this opening day, at least something to hold the player base in for a few months while they code something eles.
Level 45 in less than 1 week...
KNOWING the game has had no end content...
and STILL complaining about the lack of aforementioned content....
Riiiight, this thread is new and interesting.
On a side note: You rightfully deserve the experience you are experiencing right now.
I'm not even gonna read all of your post, it just isn't worth the effort. It is just plain simple.
You have been an idiot and rushed to admiral and now your moaning.
You will get no sympathy here for your own stupidity.
It's not the "new" way, it's Cryptic's way. There will always be better companies than them, although it may be hard to find a worse one. If Cryptic can't listen to their customers, they'll lose them. I know for sure that when I hit admiral 5 within the next two weeks (before my first month is up,) if there isn't an endgame, I won't pay for another month to play for either of my toons.
I don't reroll alts to wait on a company to give me what I should've been given in the first place.
Most of the initial development of any MMO is spent getting the beginning to about mid-way done and polished for release. Getting the basic code and mechanics laid out, laying the foundation of the whole game. The first few months are then spent ironing out the bugs and issues with the game as it is before they move on to more content.
More than likely they have already mapped out end game content, they've probably been developing it for months now and have some very clear ideas set for it.
It isn't there now for a number of reasons like the costs of developing all that, the amount of time it takes to build and test all of it, and the aforementioned fact that they are focusing on getting the fundamentals of the game smoothed out instead of piling on the content only to have to go back and make major changes that have severe unforeseen effects on it down the road that end up forcing them to go back to the drawing board.
So quit whining about the missing content. The game has been out literally a week. I'd wager you didn't even pay attention to what content WAS there anyway as you just rushed through everything to Admiral.
This man speaks the truth.
Levelling sucks, it's an annoyance to be done with so one can start the real game, the end game content.
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On a sidenote - I KNEW why I didn't pay for a lifetime subscription.
It isn't a matter of rushing.
He might have played more per day than is healthy, but, hey, for all you know he's on vacation for a week, no biggie.
It doesn't take long to level, especially if you got the learning curve out of the way in Beta. And that is leveling while doing things, running all the episodes, doing the fleet actions, and so on, not cheesy leveling by abusing DSEs.
That said, given the lack of content on the way to 45, no tier 3+ fleet actions, and so on, one shouldn't be surprised that there is nothing to do at 45.
So might as well make another character, experiment, and go out of your way not to level efficiently.
It is called "endgame" for a reason.
Most of the content in many MMOs takes place over the course of your leveling. Endgame content is NEVER fleshed out from the beginning.
Do you think all the raids and TRIBBLE available for you in WoW was there at launch? Lemme tell ya, it absolutely was not.
It took them YEARS to get all the content they have available for level-capped players now.