How about this?
AMD Athlon X2 7450 2.4Ghz
3GB RAM
NVIDIA GeForce 9200
I edited my post above to include graphics cards I'd recommend.
The 9200 is still a weak card. For NVIDIA cards, the second number can have more importance than the series number (first number). So an x500 or x50 is where gaming cards start at any generation. x600 or x60 is a solid gaming performer, while an x800 or x80 is an enthusiast card (overkill for STO, but nice for larger gaming resolutions). An x900 or x90 is usually a re-make of the enthusiast cards or in earlier series, often designates a dual GPU card if followed or prefixed with something like "GX2" or "GTX2". For example, a 9800 GT would be a 9th generation high-end gaming card, and a 9800 GTX is enthusiast card. But that is a generation+ old now, so it fills the market as a regular gaming card that performs well. At the 200 mark, NVIDIA changed its series naming convention. A GTS 250 is a 10th generation gaming card, while a GTX 285 is a 10th generation enthusiast card.
I wouldn't bother with anything x400, x40, or lower. These are value line cards mostly sold for people who want to use their PCs to play casual games (ie: flash games) or play/edit a lot of video content.
For ATI, it's similar, but not exactly the same. ATI has a series number (first number), performance category (second number), and target market (third number). So a 5750 would be 5th series, moderate performance, gaming card. A 5870 would be a 5th series, high performance, enthusiast card. It can vary a little for ATI in their 2nd and 3rd numbers but generally follows this format.
Intel(r) Pentium(r) 4 CPU 3.00GhZ
1 GB of ram
GeForcer 8500 GT
Planning on buying a new computer by the end of the year anyways.. but just incase i can't.
Your video card would be able to run STO, even if on lower settings. But your CPU is going to be a little weak with it. I'd recommend upgrading your PC.
So would
Intel Atom N330 Dual Core
2GB RAM
NVIDIA ION (Includes Nvidia's GeForce 9400M chipset)
Be OK?
Memory is of course fine, but an Intel Atom processor is usually a low-end and low-power CPU used for Netbooks and other highly mobile devices (even if it's dual-core). Same with the NVIDIA ION chipset.
Are you trying to play STO on a netbook? It sounds like a newer Netbook, but it's not going to be an enjoyable experience. I'd recommend something else more powerful in terms of laptops.
Memory is of course fine, but an Intel Atom processor is usually a low-end and low-power CPU used for Netbooks and other highly mobile devices (even if it's dual-core). Same with the NVIDIA ION chipset.
Are you trying to play STO on a netbook? It sounds like a newer Netbook, but it's not going to be an enjoyable experience. I'd recommend something else more powerful in terms of laptops.
CPU is more than adequate. The 4350 is ok, but I'd encourage you to go with at least a 45xx card.
figured it was better then the recommended ATI Radeon HD 3850. Would nVidia GeForce GT 220 be better or worse?
Memory is of course fine, but an Intel Atom processor is usually a low-end and low-power CPU used for Netbooks and other highly mobile devices (even if it's dual-core). Same with the NVIDIA ION chipset.
Are you trying to play STO on a netbook? It sounds like a newer Netbook, but it's not going to be an enjoyable experience. I'd recommend something else more powerful in terms of laptops.
It's the Specs for my current NetTop.
Is My Laptop any better?
Intel Core 2 Duo 2.16 GHz
1GB RAM
Intel GMA 950
U know AMD proccesors do have their adventage over intel proccesors. When a intel can't play it, it wil say I can't do it. While AMD will say, can't play it... But I'll try.
U know AMD proccesors do have their adventage over intel proccesors. When a intel can't play it, it wil say I can't do it. While AMD will say, can't play it... But I'll try.
AMD CPUs used to have better overclocking specs than Intel CPUs years ago, but that's no longer true. Intel CPUs overclock better now and offer more performance for the same clock speeds. But AMDs are less expensive (more bang for the buck), so it's a give and take.
figured it was better then the recommended ATI Radeon HD 3850. Would nVidia GeForce GT 220 be better or worse?
Just because the first number of a video card is higher does not mean it's faster. It just means it's from a newer series. For example, a 2009 car model is not necessarily faster than a 2007 model just because it's newer. The second number in this case matters more. So the "8" in 3850 is much higher than the "3" in 4350.
The 3850 > 4350. Fill rates for these cards (raw performance)...
All my specs are okay, exept I'm worried about my Graphics card:
Minimum: NVIDIA GeForce 7950 / ATI Radeon X1800 / Intel HD Graphics
You Have: Mobile Intel(R) 4 Series Express Chipset Family
Required - You Have
Video RAM - 256 MB - 1.3 GB
Hardware T&L - Yes - Yes
Pixel Shader version - 3.0 - 4.0
Vertex Shader version -3.0 - 4.0
Everything else is fine, but will I have a nice experience with this or not? I can run Champions (which is the same engine) so would I be able to run ST:O?
Just because the first number of a video card is higher does not mean it's faster. It just means it's from a newer series. For example, a 2009 car model is not necessarily faster than a 2007 model just because it's newer. The second number in this case matters more. So the "8" in 3850 is much higher than the "3" in 4350.
The 3850 > 4350. Fill rates for these cards (raw performance)...
3850: 10.7 GT/s
4350: 4.8 GT/s
CPU is better, but graphics is worse.
how about GeForce GT 220 then? can't tell if you answered that
All my specs are okay, exept I'm worried about my Graphics card:
Minimum: NVIDIA GeForce 7950 / ATI Radeon X1800 / Intel HD Graphics
You Have: Mobile Intel(R) 4 Series Express Chipset Family
Required - You Have
Video RAM - 256 MB - 1.3 GB
Hardware T&L - Yes - Yes
Pixel Shader version - 3.0 - 4.0
Vertex Shader version -3.0 - 4.0
Everything else is fine, but will I have a nice experience with this or not? I can run Champions (which is the same engine) so would I be able to run ST:O?
With an Intel GPU that's their Mobile 4 series, unfortunately not. Manufacturers include an Intel GPU when they want to cut costs and don't target gamers. Those chips just run an O/S and playback of video, etc. They're not really intended for any serious gaming.
how about GeForce GT 220 then? can't tell if you answered that
That's a tough one. It's a very new card, but it's still entry level. It's certainly way better than say a 9200 or 8200, but it's not a top performer. To give you an idea, here's the raw performance of a GT 220 vs. the Cryptic mentioning of a 7950...
I'd honestly say that Cryptic's 7950 requirement is a little high. I think the GT 220 would work with STO at a regular gaming resolution with moderate graphic settings. In other words, STO should still be enjoyable on a GT 220 card.
All of those CPUs are very comparable. Since the AMDs are probably cheaper, I'd go with one of those. For those, the higher the number, the better the performance.
It would be part of a computer i am thinking of building.. Just need to find the right power supply for it.
Looks great. For the power supply, I'd recommend reading this article. I wrote it a couple of years ago in a wiki community, but everything is still applicable.
Looks great. For the power supply, I'd recommend reading this article. I wrote it a couple of years ago in a wiki community, but everything is still applicable.
the first 2 don't have that good of a rating, and i dont feel like spending 270
Take a look at the people reviewing them and whether others have approved or disapproved of their comments. Many naive PC people out there.
SeaSonic and Enermax are two of the top manufacturers for high-end and reliable power supplies, along with of course PC Power & Cooling. They are several others good brands out there, and good manufacturers who sell their designs to other companies. Read that article I linked in order to find the trustworthy manufacturers.
Did a quick look at the article, don;t know if this was mentioned.
ASUS P6T WS PRO LGA 1366 Intel X58 ATX Intel Core i7 / Xeon Intel Motherboard is it a high end, regular or work station motherboard.
Also thank you for all the help you are providing.
No problem. That's an expensive motherboard that's consideration a "workstation" class. Solid board.
As for power requirements, your CPU and video card/GPU are going to be the power hungry components. With a single GTX 260 and a Core i7, I'd recommend around a 600W PSU. You could even get by with a 500W PSU, but you want some headroom when purchasing one. Capacitor aging occurs in all electronics with capacitors, so after 2-3 years your PSU won't be able to put out the same amount of power it did when it was new.
You still want to keep the wattage you need in a decent range of what your PC actually uses if you're concerned with energy conservation and how efficient your PSU is for your PC's requirements. If you're system is using 350W, but your PSU is capable of 600W sustained, you're out of that efficiency range. PSUs are typically measured for power efficiency just under or very close to their maximum wattage. So a PSU with a rated 80% efficiency might be more like 60% efficiency if it's only supplying half of what it's capable of supplying.
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The CPU and memory is fine. However, you will want to upgrade your video card.
For $135, you could go with a GTS 250: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130513&cm_re=gts_250-_-14-130-513-_-Product
For a little less, I'd also recommend a 9800 GT: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130518
If you want to be future-proof, a DX11 compatible 5750 card from ATI will work, but more expensive at $145 (still a great deal): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102865
How about this?
AMD Athlon X2 7450 2.4Ghz
3GB RAM
NVIDIA GeForce 9200
I edited my post above to include graphics cards I'd recommend.
The 9200 is still a weak card. For NVIDIA cards, the second number can have more importance than the series number (first number). So an x500 or x50 is where gaming cards start at any generation. x600 or x60 is a solid gaming performer, while an x800 or x80 is an enthusiast card (overkill for STO, but nice for larger gaming resolutions). An x900 or x90 is usually a re-make of the enthusiast cards or in earlier series, often designates a dual GPU card if followed or prefixed with something like "GX2" or "GTX2". For example, a 9800 GT would be a 9th generation high-end gaming card, and a 9800 GTX is enthusiast card. But that is a generation+ old now, so it fills the market as a regular gaming card that performs well. At the 200 mark, NVIDIA changed its series naming convention. A GTS 250 is a 10th generation gaming card, while a GTX 285 is a 10th generation enthusiast card.
I wouldn't bother with anything x400, x40, or lower. These are value line cards mostly sold for people who want to use their PCs to play casual games (ie: flash games) or play/edit a lot of video content.
For ATI, it's similar, but not exactly the same. ATI has a series number (first number), performance category (second number), and target market (third number). So a 5750 would be 5th series, moderate performance, gaming card. A 5870 would be a 5th series, high performance, enthusiast card. It can vary a little for ATI in their 2nd and 3rd numbers but generally follows this format.
Intel(r) Pentium(r) 4 CPU 3.00GhZ
1 GB of ram
GeForcer 8500 GT
Planning on buying a new computer by the end of the year anyways.. but just incase i can't.
Your video card would be able to run STO, even if on lower settings. But your CPU is going to be a little weak with it. I'd recommend upgrading your PC.
Intel Atom N330 Dual Core
2GB RAM
NVIDIA ION (Includes Nvidia's GeForce 9400M chipset)
6GB ram
ATI Radeon HD 4350
Soundblaster X-Fi Xtreme Audio
That's what i am looking at for new comp...
Intel Atom N330 Dual Core
2GB RAM
NVIDIA ION (Includes Nvidia's GeForce 9400M chipset)
Be OK?
Memory is of course fine, but an Intel Atom processor is usually a low-end and low-power CPU used for Netbooks and other highly mobile devices (even if it's dual-core). Same with the NVIDIA ION chipset.
Are you trying to play STO on a netbook? It sounds like a newer Netbook, but it's not going to be an enjoyable experience. I'd recommend something else more powerful in terms of laptops.
CPU is more than adequate. The 4350 is ok, but I'd encourage you to go with at least a 45xx card.
figured it was better then the recommended ATI Radeon HD 3850. Would nVidia GeForce GT 220 be better or worse?
It's the Specs for my current NetTop.
Is My Laptop any better?
Intel Core 2 Duo 2.16 GHz
1GB RAM
Intel GMA 950
AMD CPUs used to have better overclocking specs than Intel CPUs years ago, but that's no longer true. Intel CPUs overclock better now and offer more performance for the same clock speeds. But AMDs are less expensive (more bang for the buck), so it's a give and take.
Just because the first number of a video card is higher does not mean it's faster. It just means it's from a newer series. For example, a 2009 car model is not necessarily faster than a 2007 model just because it's newer. The second number in this case matters more. So the "8" in 3850 is much higher than the "3" in 4350.
The 3850 > 4350. Fill rates for these cards (raw performance)...
3850: 10.7 GT/s
4350: 4.8 GT/s
CPU is better, but graphics is worse.
Minimum: NVIDIA GeForce 7950 / ATI Radeon X1800 / Intel HD Graphics
You Have: Mobile Intel(R) 4 Series Express Chipset Family
Required - You Have
Video RAM - 256 MB - 1.3 GB
Hardware T&L - Yes - Yes
Pixel Shader version - 3.0 - 4.0
Vertex Shader version -3.0 - 4.0
Everything else is fine, but will I have a nice experience with this or not? I can run Champions (which is the same engine) so would I be able to run ST:O?
how about GeForce GT 220 then? can't tell if you answered that
With an Intel GPU that's their Mobile 4 series, unfortunately not. Manufacturers include an Intel GPU when they want to cut costs and don't target gamers. Those chips just run an O/S and playback of video, etc. They're not really intended for any serious gaming.
That's a tough one. It's a very new card, but it's still entry level. It's certainly way better than say a 9200 or 8200, but it's not a top performer. To give you an idea, here's the raw performance of a GT 220 vs. the Cryptic mentioning of a 7950...
NVIDIA GT 220: 5.0 GP/s, 10.0 GT/s
NVIDIA 7950 GT: 8.8 GP/s, 13.2 GT/s
I'd honestly say that Cryptic's 7950 requirement is a little high. I think the GT 220 would work with STO at a regular gaming resolution with moderate graphic settings. In other words, STO should still be enjoyable on a GT 220 card.
(god i must be annoying you now lol)
Intel® Core 2 Quad processor Q9400, Intel® Core 2 Quad processor Q9650, AMD Phenom II X4 820, AMD Phenom II X4 945
Which is better?
I meet all the other specs, and will be upgrading to 3GB of RAM soon.
No worries.
All of those CPUs are very comparable. Since the AMDs are probably cheaper, I'd go with one of those. For those, the higher the number, the better the performance.
Unfortunately, a 6100 will be sorely underpowered.
A GTX 260 will own STO.
Intel Core i7-860 Lynnfield 2.8GHz
GeForce GTX 260 896MB
6 GB of Ram
750GB SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Hard Drive
LGA 1366 Intel X58 ATX Intel Core i7 / Xeon Intel Motherboard
Intel Core i7 compatible V8 RR-UV8-XBU1-GP 120mm Rifle CPU Cooler
It would be part of a computer i am thinking of building.. Just need to find the right power supply for it.
Looks great. For the power supply, I'd recommend reading this article. I wrote it a couple of years ago in a wiki community, but everything is still applicable.
For recommendations...
SeaSonic USA: $110 650W, http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151082
Enermax: $150 620W, http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817194044
PC Power & Cooling: $270 860W, http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817703013 (this one is overpriced... PC P&C used to be decently priced before OCZ bought them out).
the first 2 don't have that good of a rating, and i dont feel like spending 270
Take a look at the people reviewing them and whether others have approved or disapproved of their comments. Many naive PC people out there.
SeaSonic and Enermax are two of the top manufacturers for high-end and reliable power supplies, along with of course PC Power & Cooling. They are several others good brands out there, and good manufacturers who sell their designs to other companies. Read that article I linked in order to find the trustworthy manufacturers.
ASUS P6T WS PRO LGA 1366 Intel X58 ATX Intel Core i7 / Xeon Intel Motherboard is it a high end, regular or work station motherboard.
Also thank you for all the help you are providing.
No problem. That's an expensive motherboard that's consideration a "workstation" class. Solid board.
As for power requirements, your CPU and video card/GPU are going to be the power hungry components. With a single GTX 260 and a Core i7, I'd recommend around a 600W PSU. You could even get by with a 500W PSU, but you want some headroom when purchasing one. Capacitor aging occurs in all electronics with capacitors, so after 2-3 years your PSU won't be able to put out the same amount of power it did when it was new.
You still want to keep the wattage you need in a decent range of what your PC actually uses if you're concerned with energy conservation and how efficient your PSU is for your PC's requirements. If you're system is using 350W, but your PSU is capable of 600W sustained, you're out of that efficiency range. PSUs are typically measured for power efficiency just under or very close to their maximum wattage. So a PSU with a rated 80% efficiency might be more like 60% efficiency if it's only supplying half of what it's capable of supplying.
Also was thinking of
Antec EarthWatts EA650 650W Continuous Power ATX12V Ver.2.2 / EPS12V version 2.91
how much is it realy affecting the speeds/performance?