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Being a star trek fan, as much as i love the federation, this game has more factions than just the federation. More ofetn than not we get Fed only Expansions that completely cut out a good portion of your player base. Klingon has its on dictionary and there is a huge amount of lore and things to make a Klingon Expansion, yet we never see one. Discovery is going deeper into Klingon history and culture than ever before. yet here we have yet another fed on expansion. thats just bad business......period.
to only favor one faction and to even stop making ships for all the factions you have released is BAD BUSINESS, you alienate your customer base and then to only have a tutorial for the expansion is kinda lame as well. So what you gave us a Scaling Fed only ship, what about the rest of your customer base that does not play federation?
Something to think about before you start losing players, cause everyone i have spoken to made a discovery toon found out there was no benefit and deleted that toon, and went back to playing the toons that have grown to love for the factions they love.
to only favor one faction and to even stop making ships for all the factions you have released is BAD BUSINESS, you alienate your customer base and then to only have a tutorial for the expansion is kinda lame as well. So what you gave us a Scaling Fed only ship, what about the rest of your customer base that does not play federation?
Something to think about before you start losing players, cause everyone i have spoken to made a discovery toon found out there was no benefit and deleted that toon, and went back to playing the toons that have grown to love for the factions they love.
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Unfortunately this is an issue of return on investment, and the simple truth is Fed content is always going to get a much larger return on investment than any other faction content, simply because that is what the vast majority (over 70% using their own infographic numbers) play.
If Cryptic has to choose between these 2 options...
A - make non-Fed's sad by focusing on Fed content
B - make Fed's sad by spending time on non-Fed content
...they are always going to choose option A. I definitely wish they could find a way to flesh out each faction, but unfortunately it just isn't going to happen.
The-Grand-Nagus
Join Date: Sep 2008
Well, we definitely have a Federation faction. So we have 1 faction and many fRactions
The-Grand-Nagus
Join Date: Sep 2008
typical Federation lover answer
In this game, the Federation is the cake and everything else is the frosting. Out of 79 episodes, the Klingons occur in five. (I don't count "The Savage Curtain" because that Kahless was a recreation, not an actual Klingon--and the actual Kahless had been dead for a long time by the TOS era.) The Romulans occur in two episodes. On that basis, I think you've been very well served in STO. I'll even go out on a limb and say that in all the other series, the Klingon- and Romulan-heavy episodes are outweighed by the remainder.
Look, dessert can be cake with frosting, or cake without frosting--but how many times have you been served dessert that was nothing but a plate of frosting?
You dont have an original idea in your statement, they can make up whole new series and garbage for the federation and you eat it up. spore drive........plz be real, infighting in starfleet.....again plz get real.
So why is it so hard for you to get behind the idea of something new or is that to alien for you federation lovers
I get what you are saying, but IMHO all of the "multi-faction" content is more Fed-flavored than anything else. So while the KDF and Roms might have their own faction specific arcs to start with, once you hit the multi-faction content you are basically playing as a Fed from them on.
The-Grand-Nagus
Join Date: Sep 2008
This. Said another way it's a question of roleplay potential: They don't write "multi-faction content"; with few exceptions they write Federation content and then replace a few of the names for KDF and Romulan characters.
Examples:
— Sabaton, "Great War"
Check out https://unitedfederationofpla.net/s/
I'll be honest; sometimes I don't even bother reading a lot of the dialog, so a lot of the nuanced type responses you listed above don't even register as problems for me when I'm playing.
The "problem" for me is not the dialog, but the actual activities of the missions themselves. Take the Defari arc for example. You are sent as a diplomat/ambassador. That works fine for my Fed, but it doesn't feel right for my Klingon regardless of whatever flavored text they put in.
Basically, I just don't feel like I'm actually playing for the Empire anymore once you hit the multi-faction content. I feel like I'm just part of "one big happy fleet" Khan mentioned.
The-Grand-Nagus
Join Date: Sep 2008
You're not getting "screwed over" by only being able to play some faction-specific missions before you join the shared content. You're just not getting as much faction-specific content as you'd like to see.
Even for federation, many of us would love to have another 20+ TOS-era missions to play.
Unfortunately, Cryptic is a business. 70+% of players want to play as a 2409 fed captain first, with other content as an afterthought. The 70+% keep the lights on.
WoW can afford to have more balanced factions because they charge money for expansions on top of charging a monthly subscription fee, and they have a lot more players than STO.
So: donate $10 million to Cryptic, or convince 1+ million new players to sign up and play as KDF or Domion or Romulan instead of as Fed. Make the business case for spending money on non-Federation-first shared content and pure non-Federation content. Until then, "letting your voice be heard" won't really change that it's one voice in a Federation sea of voices.
(Note: I like the non-Fed faction content. I have 4 Romulan captains, 3 KDF, 1 Jem'Hadar, 2 TOS. I just accept that Cryptic can't afford to make much of it.)
Regardless of origin, the story is written in a way that you do most of the fighting and others do most of the talking. As is rather common to videogames. Because if you give the player a lot of options in the dialogue, the next thing they'll demand is for those options to actually change the plot.
I never felt the kobali arc appropriate even for the Federation. For all that Captain Stick-up-his-butt quotes the Prime Directive to justify continuing the campaign in spite of the kobali deception, the whole thing is in fact a huge violation of it.
That plot gave me a Tal'Shiar-ish vibe more than any of the playable origins.
Doesn't mean they can't have their own story bits here and there...but as typical corners are cut and anything that isn't Fed is neglected.
But something that Cryptic could of done was the delta arc. Federation does more of the diplomatic building the alliance. KDF fights the main war of attrition against the Vaudwaar. Romulans do more Intel gathering.
And eventually we get to the same end, but on different paths so there is a REASON to have a Romulan or KDF toon.
Instead no. Hell after the Iconian war when we meet Kuumarke, could of been Starfleet does the initial First Contact, Romulan does Intel gathering on finding the Tox Uthat, KDF helps strengthen the defenses of Kuumarke's world.
Something where episodes have more than 1 part and there is a reason to play more than Federation.
But it will never happen. A pity.
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a whole unique KDF season, with 2-3 episodes where a fed char has to do something, maybe running medical supplie to somewhere.. but mostly KDF only stull. then another season for the Remans. what HAVE they been doing since Obisek went back to the vault? maybe they remans under Obisek finish off the Emire, or at least stops the RSE from destroying the Vault and New Romulus.
Everything that they have that is unique is years old by now, sure maybe they retooled some things here or there but overall KDF and RR haven't gotten and new stand alone content since LoR.
Sure some of that stuff you mentioned involves Klingons...but it's seen from the viewpoint of Feds basically...because the game basically treats you as a Fed except for things which are programmed in like calling you General or First instead of Admiral.
I played through the entire ViL chain as a Jem Hadar and it was still treating me like I was a Fed.
While probably true (many here are Fed lovers. And also KDF and Rom lovers), this wasn't even a relevant point the first time you used it in this thread.
I'd love to see more Faction specific missions. The Federation-Klingon War could have really been much more. But this isn't happening anymore, it hasn't for years. Everything is now Fed Flavored Generic.