A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch." "We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
Passion and Serenity are one.
I gain power by understanding both.
In the chaos of their battle, I bring order.
I am a shadow, darkness born from light.
The Force is united within me.
I can see why the Spore Drive research was discontinued, it's highly unethical
"The meaning of victory is not to merely defeat your enemy but to destroy him, to completely eradicate him from living memory, to leave no remnant of his endeavours, to crush utterly his achievement and remove from all record his every trace of existence. From that defeat no enemy can ever recover. That is the meaning of victory."
-Lord Commander Solar Macharius
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch." "We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
Passion and Serenity are one.
I gain power by understanding both.
In the chaos of their battle, I bring order.
I am a shadow, darkness born from light.
The Force is united within me.
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch." "We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
Passion and Serenity are one.
I gain power by understanding both.
In the chaos of their battle, I bring order.
I am a shadow, darkness born from light.
The Force is united within me.
I can see why the Spore Drive research was discontinued, it's highly unethical
That and is completely unreliable without the navigation system. There might only be one Navigation system available in the entire galaxy. So while it is less unethical and far more effective than the Equinox's Warp Drive, there are numerous Empires that would use the Spore Drive in the 24th Century if the navigation system wasn't so rare.
Someone say TRIBBLE is dark? I like dark, as I always hated dingleberry's bvllshyt humanist vision of the future (despite only enjoying ToS - for different reasons).
Now I wonder if it's good enough to see past the SJW cr4p.... and the only way to find out is to watch it and see for myself.
Meanwhile I've also watched 3 Episodes of The Orville now, and am totally loving it! This is what TRIBBLE should have been. And awesome-points for Lt. Alara Kitan (Halston Sage).
Yep.
Plus....Orville is also bright, colorful and cheerful......a world you'd WANT to live in.
Discovery, so far, seems dark and dingy....and gloomy....like Star Wars, Game of Thrones, etc.....NOT a place you wanna live in.
Probably why I like TOS and early TNG so much. And That is why Beyond was, to me, the ONLY JJ film they got it right...as in look at Yorktown station....humans and aliens living together, working together, helping each other, loving each other. THAT was Gene's vision.
Yep. All, that, and The Orville is wickedly funny, and light-hearted.
"Captain, I respectfully submit that the attractiveness of the ship's occupant makes the rescue imperative."
LOL. You don't get that on gloom-and-doom TRIBBLE.
Meanwhile I've also watched 3 Episodes of The Orville now, and am totally loving it! This is what TRIBBLE should have been. And awesome-points for Lt. Alara Kitan (Halston Sage).
Yep.
Plus....Orville is also bright, colorful and cheerful......a world you'd WANT to live in.
Discovery, so far, seems dark and dingy....and gloomy....like Star Wars, Game of Thrones, etc.....NOT a place you wanna live in.
Probably why I like TOS and early TNG so much. And That is why Beyond was, to me, the ONLY JJ film they got it right...as in look at Yorktown station....humans and aliens living together, working together, helping each other, loving each other. THAT was Gene's vision.
Yep. All, that, and The Orville is wickedly funny, and light-hearted.
"Captain, I respectfully submit that the attractiveness of the ship's occupant makes the rescue imperative."
LOL. You don't get that on gloom-and-doom TRIBBLE.
TNG/Voyager with the lighter side of TOS for humor. The Orville has been a lot more enjoyable to watch for me.
Episode 4 of Discovery really capitalizes on what a piece of garbage Michael really is! They slightly try to redeem her by being so empathetic towards the creature but remind us all at the end how she betrayed the Captain of the Shenzhou after accepting her will and testament. Putting her on Discovery is like finding a ship where the Captain is more extreme than Michael. Even Saru fesses up to what trash she is and how he was just being nice because she should have went off to prison, which is where she belongs. Saru needs some retribution for his former Captain and should airlock Michael at his first opportunity.
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch." "We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
Passion and Serenity are one.
I gain power by understanding both.
In the chaos of their battle, I bring order.
I am a shadow, darkness born from light.
The Force is united within me.
no, i don't mind her - i'm just pointing out everyone else has valid reasons for hating her
chief among them being her character is so poorly written, even though the actress herself is doing a damn good job given the...poor choice of script writers, to put it politely, she has to work with
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch." "We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
Passion and Serenity are one.
I gain power by understanding both.
In the chaos of their battle, I bring order.
I am a shadow, darkness born from light.
The Force is united within me.
1. Spock's actions were found to be objectively correct by the end of the trial. Burnham doesn't have that excuse-her actions prevented the Shenzou from being able to gather what relevant information may have been available (including warning the taskforce), her follow-up actions resulted in the death of her captain and destruction of her ship as well as eliminating a viable means to getting the ship out of danger.
2. And they had to Save their entire civilization to get a pardon. Burnham just had to be 'lucky' and get picked up by a skull-collecting lunatic, and bang, she's back in blue.
3. in the line of duty. which is, y'know, kinda what military people do...
Sorry, but those still hold no water.
Spock still committed mutiny, but because he is a beloved character, it's ok for him to do it.
Kirk and crew did the same, but again, they are beloved characters and it's ok for them to get away with it.
Worf outright committed murder when he killed Duras. As Picard reminded him, he is a Starfleet Officer first and foremost. Why couldn't Worf arrest and bring Duras in for trial like a real Starfleet officer? But again, Worf is a beloved character and gets a slap on the wrist.
In-universe reasonings aside, there's a another explanation for fans giving them a pass: they were shown to be likable, relatable, well-written characters before the committed these crimes. Burnham, on the other hand, demonstrates high levels of stupidity followed by a suicidal mutiny in the same episode she's introduced in. Episode four was the first time I've had any non-negative feelings about her, but no matter how concerned she is for the well being of that creature I still want to see her die before the end of the season.
1. Spock's actions were found to be objectively correct by the end of the trial. Burnham doesn't have that excuse-her actions prevented the Shenzou from being able to gather what relevant information may have been available (including warning the taskforce), her follow-up actions resulted in the death of her captain and destruction of her ship as well as eliminating a viable means to getting the ship out of danger.
2. And they had to Save their entire civilization to get a pardon. Burnham just had to be 'lucky' and get picked up by a skull-collecting lunatic, and bang, she's back in blue.
3. in the line of duty. which is, y'know, kinda what military people do...
Sorry, but those still hold no water.
Spock still committed mutiny, but because he is a beloved character, it's ok for him to do it.
Kirk and crew did the same, but again, they are beloved characters and it's ok for them to get away with it.
Worf outright committed murder when he killed Duras. As Picard reminded him, he is a Starfleet Officer first and foremost. Why couldn't Worf arrest and bring Duras in for trial like a real Starfleet officer? But again, Worf is a beloved character and gets a slap on the wrist.
In-universe reasonings aside, there's a another explanation for fans giving them a pass: they were shown to be likable, relatable, well-written characters before the committed these crimes. Burnham, on the other hand, demonstrates high levels of stupidity followed by a suicidal mutiny in the same episode she's introduced in. Episode four was the first time I've had any non-negative feelings about her, but no matter how concerned she is for the well being of that creature I still want to see her die before the end of the season.
These characters were given time to become likable, relatable, and well-written unlike Burnham. If Spock and Kirk committed mutiny in the first episode, then they would get the same treatment as Burnham from us. If the first episode was the mid-season finale and we had a few episodes to get to know Burnham, then our reaction would be different.
Although, the main reason why I wanted the season premiere to be the mid-season finale is due to Captain Georgiou and not Burnham. She would have been the first decent female Starfleet captain, but she wasn't even given a chance.
Burnham's actions resulted in the deaths of her commander, and most of her crew, while failing to achieve a result that stopped or stalled the Klingon war.
Complete nonsense, based on prejudice.
Her actions had little to no influence on the course of events - in fact, they slightly improved the situation. Her mutiny lasted about two minutes and she didn't have the time to do anything before Georgiou was back in control.
In fact, it is Captain Georgiou, despite being a sympathetic character, and Admiral Red Shirt, who are to blame in the loss of life of Federation personnel and its defeat at the Battle of Binary Stars. They continued to persist in the whole "we can find a peaceful solution" thing in the situation, where NO peaceful solution is possible. They purposefully ignored the facts and logic, which were telling in capital letters "IT IS A TRAP". Both Sarek and Burnham figured this pretty quickly, but emotion clouded Georgiou judgement - "my crew is not ready for war" - and the result was predictable: she still got the war and many of the crew still ended up dead.
For Burnham to be wrong, they needed to portray the Klingons and their motivations differently. But with ST:D Klingons the ONLY possible outcome of peaceful actions was war.
Basically, Captain Georgiou and Admiral Red Shirt did the worst thing possible from the military point of view - they chose to fight a battle on the battlefield, chosen by the enemy, on the conditions, chosen by the enemy, and voluntarily gave up the tactical initiative, while doing so. It was a recipe for crippling defeat.
Another matter whether the show writers taking a dump on Federation ideals and showing them time and time again to be wrong and ineffective is intentional or it's just an inability to take a step back and see how the plot looks from the side.
Also the Starfleet Command and Federation administration apparently choosing to make Burnham a scapegoat to cover up superior officers' mistakes was a nice touch from the dirty politicians' arsenal. Yeah, bright future, right.
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#LegalizeAwoo
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch."
"We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
-Lord Commander Solar Macharius
unless 'the galaxy's veins and arteries' have quantum lifeforms in them and using the drive kills them
#LegalizeAwoo
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch."
"We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
Have you seen episode 4 yet?
be right back - i'm off to youtube
#LegalizeAwoo
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch."
"We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
That and is completely unreliable without the navigation system. There might only be one Navigation system available in the entire galaxy. So while it is less unethical and far more effective than the Equinox's Warp Drive, there are numerous Empires that would use the Spore Drive in the 24th Century if the navigation system wasn't so rare.
Now I wonder if it's good enough to see past the SJW cr4p.... and the only way to find out is to watch it and see for myself.
Yep. All, that, and The Orville is wickedly funny, and light-hearted.
"Captain, I respectfully submit that the attractiveness of the ship's occupant makes the rescue imperative."
LOL. You don't get that on gloom-and-doom TRIBBLE.
TNG/Voyager with the lighter side of TOS for humor. The Orville has been a lot more enjoyable to watch for me.
Episode 4 of Discovery really capitalizes on what a piece of garbage Michael really is! They slightly try to redeem her by being so empathetic towards the creature but remind us all at the end how she betrayed the Captain of the Shenzhou after accepting her will and testament. Putting her on Discovery is like finding a ship where the Captain is more extreme than Michael. Even Saru fesses up to what trash she is and how he was just being nice because she should have went off to prison, which is where she belongs. Saru needs some retribution for his former Captain and should airlock Michael at his first opportunity.
#LegalizeAwoo
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch."
"We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
chief among them being her character is so poorly written, even though the actress herself is doing a damn good job given the...poor choice of script writers, to put it politely, she has to work with
#LegalizeAwoo
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch."
"We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
In-universe reasonings aside, there's a another explanation for fans giving them a pass: they were shown to be likable, relatable, well-written characters before the committed these crimes. Burnham, on the other hand, demonstrates high levels of stupidity followed by a suicidal mutiny in the same episode she's introduced in. Episode four was the first time I've had any non-negative feelings about her, but no matter how concerned she is for the well being of that creature I still want to see her die before the end of the season.
These characters were given time to become likable, relatable, and well-written unlike Burnham. If Spock and Kirk committed mutiny in the first episode, then they would get the same treatment as Burnham from us. If the first episode was the mid-season finale and we had a few episodes to get to know Burnham, then our reaction would be different.
Although, the main reason why I wanted the season premiere to be the mid-season finale is due to Captain Georgiou and not Burnham. She would have been the first decent female Starfleet captain, but she wasn't even given a chance.
She simply has a rather odious personality. Like that 1st Officer said, she really has not changed one iota.
Who wants to bed Wesley, right now, is going "Phew.....I can get a break, now!" XD
Burnham's so far, is that gung ho saber rattler
Hehe.
Her actions had little to no influence on the course of events - in fact, they slightly improved the situation. Her mutiny lasted about two minutes and she didn't have the time to do anything before Georgiou was back in control.
In fact, it is Captain Georgiou, despite being a sympathetic character, and Admiral Red Shirt, who are to blame in the loss of life of Federation personnel and its defeat at the Battle of Binary Stars. They continued to persist in the whole "we can find a peaceful solution" thing in the situation, where NO peaceful solution is possible. They purposefully ignored the facts and logic, which were telling in capital letters "IT IS A TRAP". Both Sarek and Burnham figured this pretty quickly, but emotion clouded Georgiou judgement - "my crew is not ready for war" - and the result was predictable: she still got the war and many of the crew still ended up dead.
For Burnham to be wrong, they needed to portray the Klingons and their motivations differently. But with ST:D Klingons the ONLY possible outcome of peaceful actions was war.
Basically, Captain Georgiou and Admiral Red Shirt did the worst thing possible from the military point of view - they chose to fight a battle on the battlefield, chosen by the enemy, on the conditions, chosen by the enemy, and voluntarily gave up the tactical initiative, while doing so. It was a recipe for crippling defeat.
Another matter whether the show writers taking a dump on Federation ideals and showing them time and time again to be wrong and ineffective is intentional or it's just an inability to take a step back and see how the plot looks from the side.
Also the Starfleet Command and Federation administration apparently choosing to make Burnham a scapegoat to cover up superior officers' mistakes was a nice touch from the dirty politicians' arsenal. Yeah, bright future, right.