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risian4risian4 Member Posts: 3,711 Arc User
I'm curious as to what people think is the most OP and needs fixing the most.



Edit: since the news of the upcoming changes just came out, I felt a need to point out something - as this thread may suddenly give off a whole different impression than what I originally intended.

I had no idea that this was coming, and if I had, I wouldn't have created this thread as it is not my intention to be mean or anything. I don't enjoy nerfs/corrections, but sometimes corrections are necessary to keep the game enjoyable for everyone.

Thanks for the interesting discussion so far, carry on :)
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  • risian4risian4 Member Posts: 3,711 Arc User
    For me it would be the TR rifle, and the Boolean Assault gun.

    After that, I would tone down the buffs of tactical officers. At least remove stacking of all the bonuses a bit.
  • legendarylycan#5411 legendarylycan Member Posts: 37,282 Arc User
    forum whining​​
    Like special weapons from other Star Trek games? Wondering if they can be replicated in STO even a little bit? Check this out: https://forum.arcgames.com/startrekonline/discussion/1262277/a-mostly-comprehensive-guide-to-star-trek-videogame-special-weapons-and-their-sto-equivalents

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  • vampeiyrevampeiyre Member Posts: 633 Arc User
    Tac Captain survivability. Dev favoritism to that class is beyond out of control.
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  • cidjackcidjack Member Posts: 2,017 Arc User
    @shadowfang240

    Damn it man, that was supposed to be my answer!
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  • evilmark444evilmark444 Member Posts: 6,950 Arc User
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    Lifetime Subscriber since Beta
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  • tousseautousseau Member Posts: 1,484 Arc User
    The Engineering profession as a whole...

    *wanders off with a pleased smirk on his face...*
  • firstaid#5667 firstaid Member Posts: 67 Arc User
    CritD and Antiproton
  • carcosa#4225 carcosa Member Posts: 161 Arc User
    forum whining​​
    forum whining​​
    forum whining​​

    I second that, wouldn't want to see anything nerfed
  • captainbmoneycaptainbmoney Member Posts: 1,323 Arc User
    the healing cap.
    the bug thats keeping me from using ships that seperate.
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  • tobiashirttobiashirt Member Posts: 630 Arc User
    Sources of stuff that has complete shield penetration (temporal powers, embassy consoles, etc) It'd be change, more than nerf, maybe reducing instances of 100% to 50% or 80%. In an ideal world...
  • ashstorm1ashstorm1 Member Posts: 679 Arc User
    forum whining​​

    Agreed.
  • echattyechatty Member Posts: 5,916 Arc User
    forum whining​​

    This. Nothing else.
    Now a LTS and loving it.
    Just because you spend money on this game, it does not entitle you to be a jerk if things don't go your way.
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  • skullblits#4627 skullblits Member Posts: 1,273 Arc User
    I would nerf lobi there OP
  • angrybobhangrybobh Member Posts: 420 Arc User
    The prices in the various stores (cstore/lobi/dilstore)
  • nickodaemusnickodaemus Member Posts: 711 Arc User
    Can we get something done about all those white knights, too? Or is that covered in whining?
  • warmaker001bwarmaker001b Member Posts: 9,205 Arc User
    Whining about others whining?
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  • nickodaemusnickodaemus Member Posts: 711 Arc User
    Whining about others whining?

    I see your point - covered.
  • damienvryce2damienvryce2 Member Posts: 428 Arc User
    Epohhs. They're tasty but still OP. :)
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  • nikephorusnikephorus Member Posts: 2,744 Arc User
    Weapon energy overcap.
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  • risian4risian4 Member Posts: 3,711 Arc User
    Not necessarily.

    Some things are just overperforming. Fixes are needed sometimes, just like bug fixes are necessary even when players benefit from them.
  • nimbullnimbull Member Posts: 1,564 Arc User
    Nerf the bugs in the game with an extended testing and debugging session followed by a patch for said updates.
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  • cidjackcidjack Member Posts: 2,017 Arc User
    Can we get something done about all those white knights, too? Or is that covered in whining?

    Is my Shiney armour and Bright White Cape to much to handle?
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  • ash352ash352 Member Posts: 235 Arc User
    FAW, with a nuke, from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.
  • lordsteve1lordsteve1 Member Posts: 3,492 Arc User
    Tac console stacking, or rather add in the same diminishing returns all the sci and eng consoles get.
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  • comrademococomrademoco Member Posts: 1,694 Bug Hunter
    The logic in my responses to everything... Also memory alpha
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  • legendarylycan#5411 legendarylycan Member Posts: 37,282 Arc User
    no science console has diminishing returns​​
    Like special weapons from other Star Trek games? Wondering if they can be replicated in STO even a little bit? Check this out: https://forum.arcgames.com/startrekonline/discussion/1262277/a-mostly-comprehensive-guide-to-star-trek-videogame-special-weapons-and-their-sto-equivalents

    #LegalizeAwoo

    A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
    An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
    A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
    A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"


    "It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch."
    "We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
    Passion and Serenity are one.
    I gain power by understanding both.
    In the chaos of their battle, I bring order.
    I am a shadow, darkness born from light.
    The Force is united within me.
  • kyle223catkyle223cat Member Posts: 584 Arc User
    edited February 2017
    Shield and armor penetration. But mostly shield penetration. Shields are useless now and in Star Trek they were the primary defense, or so I was led to believe.
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  • xyquarzexyquarze Member Posts: 2,117 Arc User
    no science console has diminishing returns​​

    People seem to use the term differently on these forums. The correct definition from its economic roots (absolute gain per investment needs to be diminishing), which, apart from some caps, consoles don't have. And the way that five +10% consoles do stack up to +50% instead of +61%, thus making the last console +7% (of previous value) only. Which may be an issue, but shouldn't be called diminishing returns.
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  • officerbatman81officerbatman81 Member Posts: 2,761 Arc User
    edited February 2017
    Does the concept of "OP" come from PvPing?

    Because if someone is playing the game by themselves then why can't they have potent weapons/power?

    And any answer that invloves "because in PvE people who are OP kill the bad guys faster and don't give other players a chance" seems silly and doesnt quite fly with me.
  • kyle223catkyle223cat Member Posts: 584 Arc User
    edited February 2017
    Does the concept of "OP" come from PvPing?

    Because if someone is playing the game by themselves then why can't they have potent weapons/power?

    And any answer that invloves "because in PvE people who are OP kill the bad guys faster and don't give other players a chance" seems silly and doesnt quite fly with me.

    I don't know where the concept comes from, I do know that what's OP in PvP differs from what's OP in PvE many times in this game. Both are imbalanced, the difference is NPC's can't complain about it. :D
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