i was underwhelmed with the nebula taking her out for a spin I'm becoming convinced there is no viable sci build for players not in a fleet, just like torpedo bombers are not viable without fleet gear. the ships are too fragile to keep alive without it.
i was underwhelmed with the nebula taking her out for a spin I'm becoming convinced there is no viable sci build for players not in a fleet, just like torpedo bombers are not viable without fleet gear. the ships are too fragile to keep alive without it.
Are you talking about the new Fleet T6 Nebula?! Why is it so weak?
i was underwhelmed with the nebula taking her out for a spin I'm becoming convinced there is no viable sci build for players not in a fleet, just like torpedo bombers are not viable without fleet gear. the ships are too fragile to keep alive without it.
have you tried using both the terran rep console and the trellium d console... my t5 cstore nebula unupgraded is actually fairly tanky granted the one I have set up passablely is on my engie. and looking at my set up it rnothing special at all. I don't thing the Desperate Defenses set is that powerful.
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i was underwhelmed with the nebula taking her out for a spin I'm becoming convinced there is no viable sci build for players not in a fleet, just like torpedo bombers are not viable without fleet gear. the ships are too fragile to keep alive without it.
Are you talking about the new Fleet T6 Nebula?! Why is it so weak?
i was underwhelmed with the nebula taking her out for a spin I'm becoming convinced there is no viable sci build for players not in a fleet, just like torpedo bombers are not viable without fleet gear. the ships are too fragile to keep alive without it.
Fleet gear for torpedo bombers? are you sure that is what you're missing? Rep torpedoes are a must, or rather: Anyhting but standard torpedoes are a must. Torpedoes with special abilities (and ideally not heavy torpedoes) are preferred. WIthering Torpedoes, Quantum Phase Torpedo, Neutronic, Plasma-Emission, stuff like that.
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I have a rom set up for plasma torpedo bombing. Corrosive, Omega part emission and hyper with normals mixed in to fill slots. just seems like I take massive damage using the EBC every time i fire, but thats for another thread. in the Sutherland I just seem to lose shields very quickly and hull right after
I have a rom set up for plasma torpedo bombing. Corrosive, Omega part emission and hyper with normals mixed in to fill slots. just seems like I take massive damage using the EBC every time i fire, but thats for another thread. in the Sutherland I just seem to lose shields very quickly and hull right after
i was underwhelmed with the nebula taking her out for a spin I'm becoming convinced there is no viable sci build for players not in a fleet, just like torpedo bombers are not viable without fleet gear. the ships are too fragile to keep alive without it.
cant speak for the sutherland but the other two are tanky, especially the laeosa, that thing can tank like a boss man
in other news I discovered that the console power doesnt break cloak }:-}
I took my Sutherland out for a spin. I was totally expecting to be underwhelmed performance wise.
Had a hybrid beam/1 torp build. With 2x FBP.
You know what... For a ship with "only 2 tac consoles", that thing is hitting almost as hard as my Main Tac in Fleet Phantom Escort with fully epic Disruptor build.
Haven't parsed it yet... But going by feel/observation, I really don't think I'm losing a lot of fire power.
The T6 nebula console has a nice combo if one has invested in drain expertise.
Reverse TBR, photonic shockwave (with delphich shockwave trait) and the new console is a world of hurt for whatever is caught in it.
This program, though reasonably normal at times, seems to have a strong affinity to classes belonging to the Cat 2.0 program. Questerius 2.7 will break down on occasion, resulting in garbage and nonsense messages whenever it occurs. Usually a hard reboot or pulling the plug solves the problem when that happens.
this downtime is annoying... I just got naj'sov last night had just enough time to slap something together to do a little testing. now I wake up looking forward to really working on it and the server is down... oh well can look for a good klingon name while I wait.
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So far, I'm finding the new T6 sci ships to be good all-arounders, even if not being built out to max sci specs. I've got all 3 career captains flying them ATM, and they're doing just fine in PvE, tanking away happily. Of course, I've only fitted them with mostly surplus bank gear, and I'm a long way from mastering any of them, but it looks like these will be among my go-to endgame ships!
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This was the first ship that I've bought in a long time "because I liked the design". Last time I did that was for the T6 Defiant cross faction pack.
Since Delta Rising, I've had a bad habit of buying ships for just a trait (which is pretty sad - I admit).
It's nice that I didn't even care about the trait in this particular case (trait isn't anything to write home about). I just liked the updated look they gave the Nebula, one of my favorite Trek ships.
The fact that it performs surprisingly well is the cherry on top. I'm really glad I made the purchase.
Also, I've got some nice options in the Ship Editor, since I bought the 500z Nebula and a T5U Fleet Nebula a while back.
The T6 nebula console has a nice combo if one has invested in drain expertise.
Reverse TBR, photonic shockwave (with delphich shockwave trait) and the new console is a world of hurt for whatever is caught in it.
Where does one get the Delphic Shockwave Trait, please?
I beleive it's the Denuos Dreadnought Carrier Starship trait.
Thx.
Which is a bit of a pain really. It looks like a great trait, especially from what Questerius described, but I pesonally wouldn't fork over the EC required to purchase the Denous on the exchange just for a ship trait.
There is that, but we're talking about optimizing science builds here. The extra bulk from the nebula makes it ideal for that kind of close quarters combat.
This program, though reasonably normal at times, seems to have a strong affinity to classes belonging to the Cat 2.0 program. Questerius 2.7 will break down on occasion, resulting in garbage and nonsense messages whenever it occurs. Usually a hard reboot or pulling the plug solves the problem when that happens.
The T6 nebula console has a nice combo if one has invested in drain expertise.
Reverse TBR, photonic shockwave (with delphich shockwave trait) and the new console is a world of hurt for whatever is caught in it.
Where does one get the Delphic Shockwave Trait, please?
I beleive it's the Denuos Dreadnought Carrier Starship trait.
Thx.
Which is a bit of a pain really. It looks like a great trait, especially from what Questerius described, but I pesonally wouldn't fork over the EC required to purchase the Denous on the exchange just for a ship trait.
I bought the Sphere Builder Edoulg Science Vessel the other day (primarily because it looks so cute, and has a nice bridge). The Delphic Phasing Trait seems the lesser of the two, but comes with a pretty shield anim, and really is very good for defense.
I purchased the Presidio mostly for 'All Hands on Deck' for my sci character (although my Eng Char does use the ship itself sometimes). Again, it's simply not something that I, personally, would make a habit of.
And you were right to do so. I bought the Presidio purely for the same reason. And the Vaadwaur Astika Heavy Battlecruiser for the Supremacy Trait. On a whole, I nomally don't, though.
I own a whole lot of ships... Most i dont fly after getting the traits but i try to have some variety.
The Sutherland fills an interesting niche among science ships, i think it will do very well as a FBP build but it's tricky to get that to work well in team combat sometimes.
What you'll want is the Krenim Science Vessel ship trait, the Attack Pattern Delta Prime trait, run APD and 2-3 Adak'ukan Dominion attack pattern duty officers. Activate threatening stance and anything else you can fit in without compromising your build.
Combine that with some high damage AOE powers and you should pull plenty of threat most of the time. Keeping in mind that much threat is gonna be painful so you'll need a secondary focus on tanking.
What you'll want is the Krenim Science Vessel ship trait, the Attack Pattern Delta Prime trait, run APD and 2-3 Adak'ukan Dominion attack pattern duty officers. Activate threatening stance and anything else you can fit in without compromising your build.
The Photonic shockwave has been used by some high-end science builds to proc the destabilizing secondary deflector trait so this could be a very potent synergy. Especially with the temporal 2-piece (assuming it affects it).
The Photonic shockwave has been used by some high-end science builds to proc the destabilizing secondary deflector trait so this could be a very potent synergy. Especially with the temporal 2-piece (assuming it affects it).
Have to admit, I use the full Temporal set - I love how tanky it is and the set abilities are brilliant.
What Temporal set is that, if I may ask? (There are several, these days)
The Photonic shockwave has been used by some high-end science builds to proc the destabilizing secondary deflector trait so this could be a very potent synergy. Especially with the temporal 2-piece (assuming it affects it).
Have to admit, I use the full Temporal set - I love how tanky it is and the set abilities are brilliant.
What Temporal set is that, if I may ask? (There are several, these days)
The (relatively) new Reputation set.
Thx. Pfew, I have that set. Must examine it more carefully, I guess.
I purchased the Presidio mostly for 'All Hands on Deck' for my sci character (although my Eng Char does use the ship itself sometimes). Again, it's simply not something that I, personally, would make a habit of.
And you were right to do so. I bought the Presidio purely for the same reason. And the Vaadwaur Astika Heavy Battlecruiser for the Supremacy Trait. On a whole, I nomally don't, though.
Well, I caved in. I have a heap of lock box keys hoarded that I generally keep to sell when I particuarly want something. The Denous Dreadnought was selling for 170mil on the exchange, so I sold a heap of keys and purchased it.
Actually not a bad ship either - don't have the trait yet as ran out of time to remain online, but I assumed that I wouldn't enjoy flying a ship that I purchased primarily for the trait, but it's actually a pretty fun ship to fly! I daresay I'll return to the Nebula once I have the Denous' trait, but I can honestly see myself returning to the Denous on occasion (as oposed to simply dumping it drydock).
I just caved too. And now I own a fine Denous Dreadnought as well. And you're right: it's actually not a bad ship. Trained it up this morning, so looking greatly forward to using that Delphic Shockwave Trait!
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Are you talking about the new Fleet T6 Nebula?! Why is it so weak?
have you tried using both the terran rep console and the trellium d console... my t5 cstore nebula unupgraded is actually fairly tanky granted the one I have set up passablely is on my engie. and looking at my set up it rnothing special at all. I don't thing the Desperate Defenses set is that powerful.
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Fleet gear for torpedo bombers? are you sure that is what you're missing? Rep torpedoes are a must, or rather: Anyhting but standard torpedoes are a must. Torpedoes with special abilities (and ideally not heavy torpedoes) are preferred. WIthering Torpedoes, Quantum Phase Torpedo, Neutronic, Plasma-Emission, stuff like that.
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cant speak for the sutherland but the other two are tanky, especially the laeosa, that thing can tank like a boss man
in other news I discovered that the console power doesnt break cloak }:-}
Had a hybrid beam/1 torp build. With 2x FBP.
You know what... For a ship with "only 2 tac consoles", that thing is hitting almost as hard as my Main Tac in Fleet Phantom Escort with fully epic Disruptor build.
Haven't parsed it yet... But going by feel/observation, I really don't think I'm losing a lot of fire power.
Reverse TBR, photonic shockwave (with delphich shockwave trait) and the new console is a world of hurt for whatever is caught in it.
Where does one get the Delphic Shockwave Trait, please?
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Since Delta Rising, I've had a bad habit of buying ships for just a trait (which is pretty sad - I admit).
It's nice that I didn't even care about the trait in this particular case (trait isn't anything to write home about). I just liked the updated look they gave the Nebula, one of my favorite Trek ships.
The fact that it performs surprisingly well is the cherry on top. I'm really glad I made the purchase.
Also, I've got some nice options in the Ship Editor, since I bought the 500z Nebula and a T5U Fleet Nebula a while back.
Thx.
There is that, but we're talking about optimizing science builds here. The extra bulk from the nebula makes it ideal for that kind of close quarters combat.
I bought the Sphere Builder Edoulg Science Vessel the other day (primarily because it looks so cute, and has a nice bridge). The Delphic Phasing Trait seems the lesser of the two, but comes with a pretty shield anim, and really is very good for defense.
And you were right to do so.
The Sutherland fills an interesting niche among science ships, i think it will do very well as a FBP build but it's tricky to get that to work well in team combat sometimes.
What you'll want is the Krenim Science Vessel ship trait, the Attack Pattern Delta Prime trait, run APD and 2-3 Adak'ukan Dominion attack pattern duty officers. Activate threatening stance and anything else you can fit in without compromising your build.
Combine that with some high damage AOE powers and you should pull plenty of threat most of the time. Keeping in mind that much threat is gonna be painful so you'll need a secondary focus on tanking.
Pretty much the current DPS meta there.
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I knew SOMEone would like those ships..... you're just the first Ive met
What Temporal set is that, if I may ask? (There are several, these days)
Thx.
I just caved too.
I LOL-ed nonetheless.