I find it refreshing that Olivia seems to understand her own insanity. Or did I read that wrong from the title?
I think it refers to the definition of insanity as 'repeating the same actions and expecting different results' since they posted the same thing twice in this thread and at least one similar post in the "Splash Page/Factions" thread and thought that, when people didn't jump to agree with them after the first time, posting the same thing again would somehow change that...
"If you can't take a little bloody nose, maybe you ought to go back home and crawl under your bed. It's not safe out here. It's wondrous, with treasures to satiate desires both subtle and gross; but it's not for the timid." -- Q, TNG: "Q-Who?"
^Words that every player should keep in mind, especially whenever there's a problem with the game...
People complain about anti-KDF bias in the game, where KDF faction got both scarcely-clad Orion girls and big bad-a$$ Gorn dudes without any grounds in Trek canon whatsoever.
Yeah, right - sounds legit.
People complain about anti-KDF bias in the game, where KDF faction got both scarcely-clad Orion girls and big bad-a$$ Gorn dudes without any grounds in Trek canon whatsoever.
Yeah, right - sounds legit.
*get a orion on his fed the a gorn on his tos fed then looks over the much larger ship selection* what were you saying again?
disagreeing about what, if anything should be done about the current imbalance is fine but pretending it doesn't exist is not.
if I stop posting it doesn't make you right it. just means I don't have enough rum to continue interacting with you.
Alternative logic is so alternative.
Pointing out that the faction got two highly-lucrative canon races (and most importantly as playable characters choices) ≠ denying differences in faction developing.
However, I'd say that KDF faction in STO actually received more attention, development and resources, than its support levels actually deserved.
"The forum activity for factions in Star Trek: Alien Domain is a good indication for faction popularity, considering that both factions were there from the start. It clearly shows that Klingons are more popular than the Federation. However, even there the players admit that the game is biased toward the Federation (Starfleet) but that playing as Klingons makes you a stronger player because it's more challenging."
Okay, how many times can I phrase this. You're wrong. You are wrong. Wrong, you are. Wrong are you. Wrong, wrong wrong!!
KDF is a minority in AD. I know I play it! Just because KDF has more 'activity' on the forums does not mean it's more popular. As I said prior, the reason that KDF has more posts is because the KDF are considered weaker and they complain, ALOT, about the fact they are OUTNUMBERED!
I don't often tell people to do this, but please, for the love of STO sanity....Olivia, ZIP IT and quit posting your poorly researched and poorly backed up drivel. It's the same sub-standard reasoning, time and time again!
"You don't want to patrol!? You don't want to escort!? You don't want to defend the Federation's Starbases!? Then why are you flying my Starships!? If you were a Klingon you'd be killed on the spot, but lucky for you.....you WERE in Starfleet. Let's see how New Zealand Penal Colony suits you." Adm A. Necheyev.
Alternative logic is so alternative.
Pointing out that the faction got two highly-lucrative canon races (and most importantly as playable characters choices) ≠ denying differences in faction developing.
However, I'd say that KDF faction in STO actually received more attention, development and resources, that its support levels actually deserved.
gorn and orion are not lucrative. hell there apparently so unliked that cryptic can't even sell their ships enough to justify making t6 version of existing ships. and as I pointed out you can get one on feds. and I say you can't make any money if you don't sell anything.
if I stop posting it doesn't make you right it. just means I don't have enough rum to continue interacting with you.
Alternative logic is so alternative.
Pointing out that the faction got two highly-lucrative canon races (and most importantly as playable characters choices) ≠ denying differences in faction developing.
However, I'd say that KDF faction in STO actually received more attention, development and resources, that its support levels actually deserved.
gorn and orion are not lucrative. hell there apparently so unliked that cryptic can't even sell their ships enough to justify making t6 version of existing ships. and as I pointed out you can get one on feds. and I say you can't make any money if you don't sell anything.
so... make them BETTER than comparable FREE fed ships... you know like Fed ships they sell and see if Gorn/Orion/Klink ships sell better.
Go fig you make half-assed kdf ships and the sales numbers are half-assed... SHOCKER
Alternative logic is so alternative.
Pointing out that the faction got two highly-lucrative canon races (and most importantly as playable characters choices) ≠ denying differences in faction developing.
However, I'd say that KDF faction in STO actually received more attention, development and resources, that its support levels actually deserved.
gorn and orion are not lucrative. hell there apparently so unliked that cryptic can't even sell their ships enough to justify making t6 version of existing ships. and as I pointed out you can get one on feds. and I say you can't make any money if you don't sell anything.
so... make them BETTER than comparable FREE fed ships... you know like Fed ships they sell and see if Gorn/Orion/Klink ships sell better.
Go fig you make half-assed kdf ships and the sales numbers are half-assed... SHOCKER
works for me.
if I stop posting it doesn't make you right it. just means I don't have enough rum to continue interacting with you.
I wouldn't call it poorly researched. that would imply that Olivia collects information then uses the information collected to make a conclusion. Instead Olivia looks for things to argue a nonsensical point.
I wouldn't call it poorly researched. that would imply that Olivia collects information then uses the information collected to make a conclusion. Instead Olivia looks for things to argue a nonsensical point.
I stand by my claims and I can back them up! ROFL!
"You don't want to patrol!? You don't want to escort!? You don't want to defend the Federation's Starbases!? Then why are you flying my Starships!? If you were a Klingon you'd be killed on the spot, but lucky for you.....you WERE in Starfleet. Let's see how New Zealand Penal Colony suits you." Adm A. Necheyev.
Oh, and that new console inforgraphic with the faction statistics—you can't trust it. Some of the console gamers have already admitted that they are coming from the PC version of STO. That means they would already be familiar with the faction situation.
There's a Star Trek MMO (open beta) called Star Trek: Alien Domain, which features two playable factions: Federation (Starfleet) and Klingon Empire. It is licensed by CBS.
CBS argued that according to all of their research data, only a set small percentage of Star Trek fans would want to play Klingons.
This begs the question: If CBS is behind Cryptic's lack of unique faction content for Klingons, why would they want to license and support Federation vs Klingons in the new Star Trek MMO? If Klingons are unpopular, why hasn't CBS learned its lesson?
Interestingly, the game's forum has the following statistics for the faction sub-forums so far:
Federation: 11 topics, 122 posts.
Klingon: 25 topics, 248 posts.
If CBS argued that Klingons were unpopular, why would they allow Cryptic to announce Starfleet and Klingon as full PvE factions for STO?
TrekMovie: Star Trek Online has two warring factions, The Federation and the Klingon Empire. We did a poll on the site and it showed that the vast majority were more interested in playing on the Federation side. Plus it seems there are more Federation fleets forming as well. Are you concerned there is going to be an imbalance in the game?
Craig Zinkievich: No. Someone PMed me your poll, we did a poll very early on after we announced the game, and our numbers were right around the same numbers. So we have really tried to make sure that the design supports that natural imbalance. So the Klingon gameplay is going to be much different than what the Federation is getting. It is going to be a lot more focused on the PvP [Player vs. Player] and focused on the houses within the Klingon Empire than really big story episodic exploration-focused that the Federation faction is going to have.
Here Cryptic is essentially stating that the reason for Klingons being the PvP faction is market research, not time constraints or deadlines. But didn't they already have all the research data they needed from CBS even in 2008? And if they didn't, why didn't they study the market before the full PvE faction announcement? That's what a professional development studio would do.
So what we've got is all we're ever going to get. At least until they remove it. Is anyone really surprised at this point?
Needless to say the timeline ends here. I will not be updating it further.
Meanwhile, Klingons are still being advertised as a viable choice on the STO splash page.
Looking back at STO history, this game needed a Winback Weekend in only three months since its launch on February 2nd, 2010. On September 1st, 2011 they already announced that it was going F2P, which is also known as "graveyard" for P2P. Shouldn't the Federation (Starfleet) bias have been enough to sustain the player base?
Just some food for thought.
UPDATE:
Sometimes some people ask: If Klingons were more popular, why would Cryptic deliberately undermine their own game? After all, as a business, it would be insane to pass up all that money, right? Let's look at some evidence to see if there's some other motivation at play here, besides money.
Gene Coon primarily modeled the Klingons, metaphorically, on contemporary Russians, making the standoff between the species and the Federation representative of that between the Russians and the Americans during the then-ongoing Cold War. (Star Trek: The Original Series 365, p. 139) [. . .] The Klingon Empire was also a metaphor for Communist China and its allies in the Vietnam War, namely North Vietnam and North Korea. (These Are the Voyages: TOS Season One) [. . .] Dave Rossi agreed, "In many ways, the Klingons were born out of our fear, as Americans, of [...] the Communists." ("Errand of Mercy" Starfleet Access, TOS Season 1 Blu-ray)
[. . .]
Despite thinking of the Klingons as the futuristic Russians they were intended to be, Colicos took inspiration from Genghis Khan, as Kor was likewise an ambitious military commander. (Captains' Logs: The Unauthorized Complete Trek Voyages, p. 40) [. . .] The makeup scheme was therefore actually a combination of a wide variety of sources, Colicos advising the makeup team, "Make me a little touch of Fu Man Chu, and a little touch of Slavic Russian, and a little touch of everything." (Cinefantastique, Vol. 28, No. 4/5, p. 59)
[. . .]
Rick Stratton, who was part of a small team of young makeup artists enlisted by Fred Phillips to work with him on Star Trek: The Motion Picture, uncertainly recollected, "I think the makeup was called 'Mexican #1 or #2.' That was the name of the original makeup foundation – they actually had kind of racist names at the time, like 'Negro #1' and 'Mexican #2' – which was the basis for the original Star Trek makeups." (Star Trek Magazine issue 172, p. 59)
"A Private Little War" continued the analogous use of the Klingons. In that outing, they were meant to represent the Communist foes of the United States specifically during the Vietnam War, which was being controversially fought at that time. (Star Trek: The Original Series 365, p. 222) [. . .] Gene Roddenberry was interested in increasing the degree to which the Klingons allegorically resembled North Vietnam, politically. [. . .] Coon thereafter stressed to Ingalls the importance of the Klingons being defeated by Starfleet [. . .] (These Are the Voyages: TOS Season Two)
Note: In reality, United States lost the Vietnam War.
The Klingons' appearance changed within the original Star Trek series; although dark makeup and heavy eyebrows were the norm, the Klingons of "The Trouble with Tribbles" were much lighter-skinned and more Human-like in appearance. [. . .] Explained Robert Justman, "The second time [the Klingons appeared], something went wrong. I didn't see them in their makeup before they were photographed, as I usually did. The first time I saw the Klingons revisited, I was horrified. They were much paler and didn't match what we'd done before. I blew a gasket, but in television, unless it's a total disaster, you can't afford to reshoot. The third outing, we went back to them being darker." (Star Trek: Communicator issue 114, p. 24)
[. . .]
During development of the unrealized TV series Star Trek: Phase II, John Meredyth Lucas wrote a two-part episode entitled "Kitumba" which, if filmed, would have established a radically different Klingon culture to the one developed in subsequent series and films. [. . .] In essence, the Klingon Empire of this story took major influence from Japan. (The A-Z of Star Trek, Special SFX Edition, p. 105) Lucas explained, "I wanted something that we had never seen before on the series, and that's a penetration deep into enemy space. I then began to think how the Klingons lived [....] The Japanese came to mind, so basically that's what it was. You know, the sacred Emperor, the Warlord and so on." (Starlog, issue 112, p. 34)
[. . .]
Mark Lenard admitted that, before playing the Klingon Captain in The Motion Picture, he had never imagined playing a Klingon and said this was "because they are the arch enemies of the galaxy." (Starlog #42, p. 24)
[. . .]
The Star Trek III portrayal of Klingons took inspiration from Japanese history. "Harve [Bennett] had the notion that the Klingons were like Samurai warriors," explained linguist Marc Okrand. (Star Trek: Communicator issue 114, p. 27)
[. . .]
Vaughn Armstrong noted about Bowman, "He also said, 'We want the Klingons to be the bikers of the universe!'" (Star Trek: The Magazine Volume 2, Issue 9, p. 42)
[. . .]
Two historical societies, the Samurai and Vikings, served as other inspirations, Moore perceiving about Klingon culture, "There was the calm, elegant reserve associated with the Samurai but there was the 'party-down' like the Vikings." (Star Trek: Communicator issue 114, p. 58)
[. . .]
Following a description of the Klingon homeworld, the memo continued by saying, "Klingon society could most closely be compared to that of Sparta or feudal Japan."
[. . .]
. . . Star Trek VI [. . .] He gave much consideration to how the Klingons were similar to the Communists. Influenced by the contemporaneous crumbling of both the Soviet Union (which included Russia) and its border which was the Berlin Wall, Nimoy chose to represent the Klingons as encountering analogous circumstances. "Realizing that over the 25 year history of Star Trek, the Klingons have been the constant foe of the Federation, much like the Russians and Communists were to democracy, I wondered how we could translate these contemporary world affairs into an adventure with the Klingons," stated Nimoy.
[. . .]
"So when Leonard [Nimoy] came up with the idea that the Klingons could stand in for the Russians and we could deal with the end of the Cold War," said Flinn, "we were home free in terms of fundamentals that we knew worked." (Cinefantastique, Vol. 22, No. 5, p. 46)
Something doesn't add up here because Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country compared Klingons to the fascist Germany, and colored their banner like the WW2 Germany flag. There was also a quote by General Chang about the "breathing room". Yet, Rura Penthe was referred to as "Gulag". It doesn't make any sense because Soviet Union fought against and defeated the fascist Germany in WW2 by capturing Berlin, the capital of the Third Reich. This was followed by the Germany's unconditional surrender. So, it's very puzzling to read what Memory Alpha describes here.
And it goes on and on. The same article states that Klingons eventually, after the Cold War, "evolved" from the original allusions to Russia— Soviet or otherwise—into "honorable warriors". Let's see how true that is.
Rurik the Damned was a great Klingon warrior, who conquered the Zora Fel and liberated Vrax. A monumental statue of him stands in the Hall of Warriors on Ty'Gokor. (DS9: "Apocalypse Rising")
Rurik Dynasty, princes of Kievan Rus and, later, Muscovy who, according to tradition, were descendants of the Varangian prince Rurik, who had been invited by the people of Novgorod to rule that city (c. 862); the Rurik princes maintained their control over Kievan Rus and, later, Muscovy until 1598.
Meyer also wrote about these ideological differences in his autobiographical book The View from the Bridge - Memories of Star Trek and a Life in Hollywood. Therein, he recalled, "[Roddenberry] was emphatic that Starfleet was not a military organization but something akin to the Coast Guard. This struck me as manifestly absurd, for what were Kirk's adventures but a species of gunboat diplomacy wherein the Federation (read America, read the Anglo-Saxons) was always right and aliens were – in Kipling's queasy phrase – 'lesser breeds'? Yes, there was lip service to minority participation, but it was clear who was driving the boat."
If the intent of the franchise, including its games, is to spread Anglo-Saxon propaganda, what happens if it backfires and the "bad guys" end up being more popular, despite the propaganda's original intent? Does the game continue the self-humiliation? After all, it would be insane to pass up all that money, right? A different kind of insanity was already there to begin with.
The forum activity for factions in Star Trek: Alien Domain is a good indication for faction popularity, considering that both factions were there from the start. It clearly shows that Klingons are more popular than the Federation. However, even there the players admit that the game is biased toward the Federation (Starfleet) but that playing as Klingons makes you a stronger player because it's more challenging.
Here is some additional reading material to back this up:
So much for "business" and "money" being the only deciding factor in Star Trek games.
UPDATE:
Oh, and that new console inforgraphic with the faction statistics—you can't trust it. Some of the console gamers have already admitted that they are coming from the PC version of STO. That means they would already be familiar with the faction situation.
Just a small update.
Is it Thursday? Must be as this DEAD HORSE issue gets posted with excruciating regularity. <Yawn>
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Oh, and that new console inforgraphic with the faction statistics—you can't trust it. Some of the console gamers have already admitted that they are coming from the PC version of STO. That means they would already be familiar with the faction situation.
Just a small update.
Irrelevant. If people were trying to 'prove' KDF should take more precedence, then KDF numbers WOULD BE HIGHER! The fact is both PC and Console infographics prove consistancy across the factions and prove nothing about your argument. Had KDF numbers been considerably higher on either platform then there is a case. The content across all factions is roughly equal, this has already been proved. KDF has alot of dedicated episodes as do both sides of the ROM faction. Just because they have fewer ships, it doesn't mean that they are at a disadvantage either. I fly the Kar'Fi on 3 of my 4 KDF toons, and that is a T5U and is better than the Fed's Jupiter! In my honest opinion, the Feds have way too many ships to choose from. They are quite literally flooded.
All you have done is what Alex Jones does, and that's cherry pick things that suit your argument, and ignore the entire picture!
Let's look at the reality.
Klingons are an aggressor species by nature, with some elements of the caste system, that live by a code of honour. This isn't a similarity one attributes to the USSR. This is more Japanese/Chinese in nature. Klingons are also not explorers, nor scientists as is inline with established canon! Klingons don't value their scientists except when a scientist can make a 'bigger boom'. Their ship design philosophy also is geared to quick strikes and domination of their opponents. Try and even name 1 ship class in the entire history of ST and it's games that was a 'science' vessel besides the Dyson! Also, if you look at the amount of differing designs of Klingon ships, you'll find differences are lacking when you compare how many different designs the Fed had during the TV series. I'm totally in agreement with the current Cryptic attitude towards the KDF ships. I'm pretty sure that Klingons would actually be baffled at why the Federations needs sooooo many ships for sooooo different situations. Why waste all that time when you can create ships that can be multi-purpose!
"You don't want to patrol!? You don't want to escort!? You don't want to defend the Federation's Starbases!? Then why are you flying my Starships!? If you were a Klingon you'd be killed on the spot, but lucky for you.....you WERE in Starfleet. Let's see how New Zealand Penal Colony suits you." Adm A. Necheyev.
People complain about anti-KDF bias in the game, where KDF faction got both scarcely-clad Orion girls and big bad-a$$ Gorn dudes without any grounds in Trek canon whatsoever.
Yeah, right - sounds legit.
Whiskey. Tango. Foxtrot.
I'd say the portrayals of Gorn and Orions were pretty dead-on....
People complain about anti-KDF bias in the game, where KDF faction got both scarcely-clad Orion girls and big bad-a$$ Gorn dudes without any grounds in Trek canon whatsoever.
Yeah, right - sounds legit.
Whiskey. Tango. Foxtrot.
I'd say the portrayals of Gorn and Orions were pretty dead-on....
I think they're referring less to the appearance of the characters than the fact that, in the shows, there was nothing tying the Gorn and the Orions to the Klingons.
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^Words that every player should keep in mind, especially whenever there's a problem with the game...
People complain about anti-KDF bias in the game, where KDF faction got both scarcely-clad Orion girls and big bad-a$$ Gorn dudes without any grounds in Trek canon whatsoever.
Yeah, right - sounds legit.
Whiskey. Tango. Foxtrot.
I'd say the portrayals of Gorn and Orions were pretty dead-on....
I think they're referring less to the appearance of the characters than the fact that, in the shows, there was nothing tying the Gorn and the Orions to the Klingons.
Considering the Federation had Humans, Vulcans, Benzite, Betazoid, Bolian, Andorian, Bajoran, Saurian, Trill, and a few other races while Klingons have no one else, then adding Orions and Gorn to the Klingons makes sense. Otherwise, Cryptic would have to create new subject races for the Klingon Empire and Romulan Star Empire since you can't have a playable faction with only one race. A micro-faction might be possible since those amount to alternate tutorials instead of an actual faction.
I smell fear on the feds... something about the ops post makes them afraid. Otherwise why would go to such extreme lengths if the op is so out there.
What you smell is mild annoyance not fear. Bringing STO to the consoles had the chance to prove that more people wanted to play Klingons and Romulans based on a completely unbiased group of people. There might be some players that have played the game on the PC, but the vast majority hasn't. After all, why move to the console when you will lose everything. The only reason is to play with friends that won't or can't play on the PC.
The faction percentages are consistent with the PC version of Star Trek Online. It was stated by a dev years ago when there was a severe lack of Klingon content and no Romulans that Klingons make up only 18% of the population. Therefore, the console has proven that most people want to play as Federation rather than Klingons or Romulans.
Isn't Orion a Member of the Federation? In any case, it's rather deep in Fed space to be part of the Klingon Empire.
In the new Star Trek movies and In a Mirror, Darkly, there was Orion Officers, but they are in parallel universes to the Prime Universe and STO Universe. There is only a mention of Orions in Deep Space 9 and Voyager about Orion traders and the Orion Institute of Cosmology. So there is very little known about Orions in the 24th Century. Orions could be members of the Federation, but there is absolutely no proof.
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I think it refers to the definition of insanity as 'repeating the same actions and expecting different results' since they posted the same thing twice in this thread and at least one similar post in the "Splash Page/Factions" thread and thought that, when people didn't jump to agree with them after the first time, posting the same thing again would somehow change that...
^Words that every player should keep in mind, especially whenever there's a problem with the game...
Yeah, right - sounds legit.
*get a orion on his fed the a gorn on his tos fed then looks over the much larger ship selection* what were you saying again?
disagreeing about what, if anything should be done about the current imbalance is fine but pretending it doesn't exist is not.
if I stop posting it doesn't make you right it. just means I don't have enough rum to continue interacting with you.
Pointing out that the faction got two highly-lucrative canon races (and most importantly as playable characters choices) ≠ denying differences in faction developing.
However, I'd say that KDF faction in STO actually received more attention, development and resources, than its support levels actually deserved.
Okay, how many times can I phrase this. You're wrong. You are wrong. Wrong, you are. Wrong are you. Wrong, wrong wrong!!
KDF is a minority in AD. I know I play it! Just because KDF has more 'activity' on the forums does not mean it's more popular. As I said prior, the reason that KDF has more posts is because the KDF are considered weaker and they complain, ALOT, about the fact they are OUTNUMBERED!
I don't often tell people to do this, but please, for the love of STO sanity....Olivia, ZIP IT and quit posting your poorly researched and poorly backed up drivel. It's the same sub-standard reasoning, time and time again!
gorn and orion are not lucrative. hell there apparently so unliked that cryptic can't even sell their ships enough to justify making t6 version of existing ships. and as I pointed out you can get one on feds. and I say you can't make any money if you don't sell anything.
if I stop posting it doesn't make you right it. just means I don't have enough rum to continue interacting with you.
so... make them BETTER than comparable FREE fed ships... you know like Fed ships they sell and see if Gorn/Orion/Klink ships sell better.
Go fig you make half-assed kdf ships and the sales numbers are half-assed... SHOCKER
works for me.
if I stop posting it doesn't make you right it. just means I don't have enough rum to continue interacting with you.
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My thoughts entirely.
I really admire your dedication to the gag.
Your choice of words kinda makes it appear as if there'd be a need for players to make playing on consoles a secret.
They really don't have anything to 'admit' here.
Is it Thursday? Must be as this DEAD HORSE issue gets posted with excruciating regularity. <Yawn>
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Irrelevant. If people were trying to 'prove' KDF should take more precedence, then KDF numbers WOULD BE HIGHER! The fact is both PC and Console infographics prove consistancy across the factions and prove nothing about your argument. Had KDF numbers been considerably higher on either platform then there is a case. The content across all factions is roughly equal, this has already been proved. KDF has alot of dedicated episodes as do both sides of the ROM faction. Just because they have fewer ships, it doesn't mean that they are at a disadvantage either. I fly the Kar'Fi on 3 of my 4 KDF toons, and that is a T5U and is better than the Fed's Jupiter! In my honest opinion, the Feds have way too many ships to choose from. They are quite literally flooded.
All you have done is what Alex Jones does, and that's cherry pick things that suit your argument, and ignore the entire picture!
Let's look at the reality.
Klingons are an aggressor species by nature, with some elements of the caste system, that live by a code of honour. This isn't a similarity one attributes to the USSR. This is more Japanese/Chinese in nature. Klingons are also not explorers, nor scientists as is inline with established canon! Klingons don't value their scientists except when a scientist can make a 'bigger boom'. Their ship design philosophy also is geared to quick strikes and domination of their opponents. Try and even name 1 ship class in the entire history of ST and it's games that was a 'science' vessel besides the Dyson! Also, if you look at the amount of differing designs of Klingon ships, you'll find differences are lacking when you compare how many different designs the Fed had during the TV series. I'm totally in agreement with the current Cryptic attitude towards the KDF ships. I'm pretty sure that Klingons would actually be baffled at why the Federations needs sooooo many ships for sooooo different situations. Why waste all that time when you can create ships that can be multi-purpose!
Whiskey. Tango. Foxtrot.
I'd say the portrayals of Gorn and Orions were pretty dead-on....
I think they're referring less to the appearance of the characters than the fact that, in the shows, there was nothing tying the Gorn and the Orions to the Klingons.
^Words that every player should keep in mind, especially whenever there's a problem with the game...
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Considering the Federation had Humans, Vulcans, Benzite, Betazoid, Bolian, Andorian, Bajoran, Saurian, Trill, and a few other races while Klingons have no one else, then adding Orions and Gorn to the Klingons makes sense. Otherwise, Cryptic would have to create new subject races for the Klingon Empire and Romulan Star Empire since you can't have a playable faction with only one race. A micro-faction might be possible since those amount to alternate tutorials instead of an actual faction.
What you smell is mild annoyance not fear. Bringing STO to the consoles had the chance to prove that more people wanted to play Klingons and Romulans based on a completely unbiased group of people. There might be some players that have played the game on the PC, but the vast majority hasn't. After all, why move to the console when you will lose everything. The only reason is to play with friends that won't or can't play on the PC.
The faction percentages are consistent with the PC version of Star Trek Online. It was stated by a dev years ago when there was a severe lack of Klingon content and no Romulans that Klingons make up only 18% of the population. Therefore, the console has proven that most people want to play as Federation rather than Klingons or Romulans.
Most of it's just copy pasta with a tinsy bit of word spinning.
In the new Star Trek movies and In a Mirror, Darkly, there was Orion Officers, but they are in parallel universes to the Prime Universe and STO Universe. There is only a mention of Orions in Deep Space 9 and Voyager about Orion traders and the Orion Institute of Cosmology. So there is very little known about Orions in the 24th Century. Orions could be members of the Federation, but there is absolutely no proof.
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A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch."
"We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"