As to other TV anthologies - keep in mind those were modern day stories that don't have huge overhead from sets, props, and costuming that has to be re-paid in full each time you jump around. Sci-fi production budgeting is a cruel beast on the best of days - deliberately poking that beast is asking to fail.
America Horror Story has (so far) taken place in 2011, 1964, 2013, 1952 and 2015. Fairly certain there has been some extensive costuming and sets/props built just for a specific season.
I'm sure they can find creative ways to re-use set pieces and props from season to season on a Trek anthology.
They did that constantly in the ST TV shows too. There's this giant list of costumes that got re-used for multiple aliens, and set pieces that were seen in several quadrants of the galaxy.
References aside, the visuals are straight from JJ Trek closing titles. Considering the disdain CBS and Paramount have for each other it's surprising.
Where on Earth do people get this kind of misinformation?
Their brainz - cause memory is a wet, squishy thing on the best of days . It certainly looks like the end credits to Star Trek 2009 - but the last time I watched that was long enough back that I wasn't certain if it included those exact celestial bodies or if the new footage was just something being done in that style.
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Ummm...
It's 2016, did you really think the special effects were going to look like anything else.
Also, it's been speculated that the first space shot, is of the Klingon Moon Praxis, which blew up at the beginning of Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country...
It's also been speculated that the first shot is of Romulus after the Hobus supernova, and that the fiery thing is the Tholian homeworld.
Let's face it, lots of things have been speculated, but there are no data upon which to rely.
"It is a capital mistake to theorise before one has data, Watson. One insensibly begins to twist facts to fit theories, rather than theories to fit facts." - Sherlock Holmes, in Arthur Conan Doyle's The Sign of the Four
That's an interesting guess also.
I hadn't heard that one yet.
It would be very cool if they kinda-sorta follow along with STO's version of how things turned out, but I know that would be a long shot.
After looking at the images again, it would seem that Romulus might be the more likely candidate, because if it was Praxis, Qo'nos would probably be close by in the shot.
Anyway, it's fun speculating.
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Said it before and will say it again: JJ Abrams HATES that space is big. He is literally incapable of writing for an environment where the characters can't lookup and see everything that's happening anywhere else in the entire cosmos. Not even on a monitor - they have to be able to see galactic events unfolding in real time with their own eyes peering skyward.
Said it before and will say it again: JJ Abrams HATES that space is big. He is literally incapable of writing for an environment where the characters can't lookup and see everything that's happening anywhere else in the entire cosmos. Not even on a monitor - they have to be able to see galactic events unfolding in real time with their own eyes peering skyward.
That's an interesting diatribe, but JJ doesn't have anything to do with Trek-2017.
(other than perhaps a slight influence on what the SP-Fx might look like overall)
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That's an interesting diatribe, but JJ doesn't have anything to do with Trek-2017.
(other than perhaps a slight influence on what the SP-Fx might look like overall)
That is true, but despite being called "peanuts", there are no peas in them.
^ Memory Alpha.org is not canon. It's a open wiki with arbitrary rules. Only what can be cited from an episode is. ^
"No. Men do not roar. Women roar. Then they hurl heavy objects... and claw at you." -Worf, son of Mogh
"A filthy, mangy beast, but in its bony breast beat the heart of a warrior" - "faithful" (...) "but ever-ready to follow the call of the wild." - Martok, about a Targ
"That pig smelled horrid. A sweet-sour, extremely pungent odor. I showered and showered, and it took me a week to get rid of it!" - Robert Justman, appreciating Emmy-Lou
That's an interesting diatribe, but JJ doesn't have anything to do with Trek-2017.
(other than perhaps a slight influence on what the SP-Fx might look like overall)
That is true, but despite being called "peanuts", there are no peas in them.
If I actually knew what you were going for with that, I might have a really nice come back.
As it is, my point was that Bee-itching about JJ in this particular thread, is kinda-sorta pointless.
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Said it before and will say it again: JJ Abrams HATES that space is big. He is literally incapable of writing for an environment where the characters can't lookup and see everything that's happening anywhere else in the entire cosmos. Not even on a monitor - they have to be able to see galactic events unfolding in real time with their own eyes peering skyward.
That's an interesting diatribe, but JJ doesn't have anything to do with Trek-2017.
(other than perhaps a slight influence on what the SP-Fx might look like overall)
The post I was responding to was talking about the egregious proximity of various planets in the 2009 movie credits, so I think it largely topical .
If I actually knew what you were going for with that, I might have a really nice come back.
As it is, my point was that Bee-itching about JJ in this particular thread, is kinda-sorta pointless.
My point was that the comment you replied to had nothing to do with 2017 Trek in particular but it was just a fact, stated for general amusement in reaction to the sequence comparison. There was no bitching involved
^ Memory Alpha.org is not canon. It's a open wiki with arbitrary rules. Only what can be cited from an episode is. ^
"No. Men do not roar. Women roar. Then they hurl heavy objects... and claw at you." -Worf, son of Mogh
"A filthy, mangy beast, but in its bony breast beat the heart of a warrior" - "faithful" (...) "but ever-ready to follow the call of the wild." - Martok, about a Targ
"That pig smelled horrid. A sweet-sour, extremely pungent odor. I showered and showered, and it took me a week to get rid of it!" - Robert Justman, appreciating Emmy-Lou
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so some random rumors I heard bout it: anthology series takes place after Star Trek VI,'lower decks' approach where we don't follow a bridge crew specifically. The Excelsior and Sulu's daughter appear in some capacity. The villains are mirror universe Klingons attempting to invade our galaxy. Original timeline.
great, as if the terrans weren't bad enough...why would they want to invade our galaxy anyway? they should have their hands full with the terran empire
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch." "We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
Passion and Serenity are one.
I gain power by understanding both.
In the chaos of their battle, I bring order.
I am a shadow, darkness born from light.
The Force is united within me.
so some random rumors I heard bout it: anthology series takes place after Star Trek VI,'lower decks' approach where we don't follow a bridge crew specifically. The Excelsior and Sulu's daughter appear in some capacity. The villains are mirror universe Klingons attempting to invade our galaxy. Original timeline.
Because someone was thinking "How can we make this as completely opaque and unapproachable to new viewers as possible...?"
so some random rumors I heard bout it: anthology series takes place after Star Trek VI,'lower decks' approach where we don't follow a bridge crew specifically. The Excelsior and Sulu's daughter appear in some capacity. The villains are mirror universe Klingons attempting to invade our galaxy. Original timeline.
Because someone was thinking "How can we make this as completely opaque and unapproachable to new viewers as possible...?"
More like because some rumormongers can't comprehend a storyline that isn't a rehash of everything that's gone before. Ahead into a future time? Exploring new spaces? We can't have that!
Captain Isaac Blair commands the USS Decker, a Persistence-class light attack cruiser refitted for exploration with almost half of its weaponry removed to make space for improved sensors, probe racks, and long range provisions. The Decker has been dispatched on a 4 year mission to survey and explore the Talien sector, the outer fringe of the Federation’s westward colonization effort. Blair is a competent, but usually light-hearted captain best known for his patience with junior officers with questionable incidents in their early career - likely because of events now sealed in his own service file. Its a blemish on his record that leads to a tumultuous relationship with several admirals with influence in the Western Expanse. Assignment to the Decker is often seen as a chance at a fresh start for talented but “less disciplined” officers who only scraped by in Starfleet Academy. Transfers to and from the ship are correspondingly more common that on most frontier assignments and Blair’s section chiefs often have to ride herd on an unusually rambunctious bunch of junior officers.
Blair’s first officer is Dennet Irroi, an Andorian tactical officer Blair has know since their Academy days, and possibly the only other person on the ship who knows the contents of Blair’s sealed records. Dennet is a staunch Andorian-warrior traditionalist and a unbending taskmaster on the ship. While Blair is familiar with most of Irroi’s unusual Andorian customs, Dennet still surprises him from time to time. Their sharp differences in personality have been a source of strength to both of them throughout their careers and they excel at “good cop/bad cop” ploys. While Irroi seldom pushes to shoot first, he is adamant about the USS Decker being the ship that shoots last.
The Decker’s mission takes the form of multi-month sorties into the uncharted territories, interspersed with roughly quarterly resupply stops at New Santiago. New Santiago is a prosperous second generation multi-species Federation colony, and a crucial toe-hold in the Talien Sector. The periodic return of the Decker is a welcome sight for the locals, though the dock master sometimes squabbles with her chief engineer. New Santiago is so important to Federation interests that a new Star Base is under construction in orbit above the planet, though so far only the framework and a few interconnected habitation modules, deflector arrays, and power plants are on line - approximately 15% of its final structure.
What had all the earmarks of a quiet and productive cartography and astrometric tour of duty for the USS Decker is turned upside down when an armed Tholian fleet warps into the New Santiago system. In a matter of days the crystalline spider-like aliens have established a colony on the innermost planet of the system - a fiery hellhole uninhabitable to most Federation species. While the Tholians under the command of General Karik Thrit avoid fighting, they rebuff any claims the New Santiago/Federation government makes on the whole of the system. Tensions rise as the Tholian’s ensnare, board, and inspect any traffic moving though the inner system, enforcing their ‘security perimeter’ and creating a sort of ‘system within the system’ in the grip of an often hostile power.
Captain Blair, his crew, and his under-gunned ship are called front and center to protect Federation interests and lives against a superior force that has yet to fire a single shot...
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch." "We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
Passion and Serenity are one.
I gain power by understanding both.
In the chaos of their battle, I bring order.
I am a shadow, darkness born from light.
The Force is united within me.
Rumor is in the second season a swarm of ship-sized cosmozoa hatch from one of the system's outer gas giants and threaten to eat everybody. After some will-they-won't-they drama the Tholians actually save the day, fighting for their Federation neighbors just before the swarm reaches New Santiago. The Tholians claim it was just self-interest, stopping the swarm before it moved closer to the star and became even more energetic/dangerous. But Dennet knows better - he sees that General Karik is hardcore about protecting civilians - ANY civilians. Hopefully the show gets picked up for another season. I've also heard the USS Decker gets some of its guns put back on in season two. It sounds cool but I don't want them to lose the whole 'we're explorers' vibe though...
I've heard a rumour the new show follows the actors playing in a new Star Trek show. They face new crews of stage hands and sound operators, new worlds like studio 7 somewhere in Jersey, new villians like incompetent caterers and spiteful agents and new heroes who save the studio in a heartwarming and inspirational crowd funding run.
^ Memory Alpha.org is not canon. It's a open wiki with arbitrary rules. Only what can be cited from an episode is. ^
"No. Men do not roar. Women roar. Then they hurl heavy objects... and claw at you." -Worf, son of Mogh
"A filthy, mangy beast, but in its bony breast beat the heart of a warrior" - "faithful" (...) "but ever-ready to follow the call of the wild." - Martok, about a Targ
"That pig smelled horrid. A sweet-sour, extremely pungent odor. I showered and showered, and it took me a week to get rid of it!" - Robert Justman, appreciating Emmy-Lou
I've heard a rumour the new show follows the actors playing in a new Star Trek show. They face new crews of stage hands and sound operators, new worlds like studio 7 somewhere in Jersey, new villians like incompetent caterers and spiteful agents and new heroes who save the studio in a heartwarming and inspirational crowd funding run.
They are going to call it...
"Bring Your Peters Out For A Good Cleaning"
<chuckle>
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The novelist behind the Voyager relaunch books has joined the Star Trek 2017 writing team.
This is the interesting part to me...
"...The author has been praised for her knack with tying disparate bits of Trek continuity together in her novels, tying relatively obscure or one-time events from the Voyager television episodes into her writing, and may bring a similar skill set to the Trek 2017 writers room."
Just think of all the stuff she will have to work with.
She's like the whole STO Creative Writing Team, in one person.
<chuckle>
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I do believe that is also an item on the big wish list, ie "Hire an actual science fiction writer", I mean she's no Peter David (would be my dream pick), or Judith and Garfield Reeve-Stevens, but she is a sci-fi novelist.
Add Diane Duane, David Drake, and Timothy Zahn to this and you've got my dream team.
"Great War! / And I cannot take more! / Great tour! / I keep on marching on / I play the great score / There will be no encore / Great War! / The War to End All Wars"
— Sabaton, "Great War"
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch." "We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
Passion and Serenity are one.
I gain power by understanding both.
In the chaos of their battle, I bring order.
I am a shadow, darkness born from light.
The Force is united within me.
I do believe that is also an item on the big wish list, ie "Hire an actual science fiction writer", I mean she's no Peter David (would be my dream pick), or Judith and Garfield Reeve-Stevens, but she is a sci-fi novelist.
Add Diane Duane, David Drake, and Timothy Zahn to this and you've got my dream team.
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My character Tsin'xing
As I said, similar but not the same.
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That's an interesting guess also.
I hadn't heard that one yet.
It would be very cool if they kinda-sorta follow along with STO's version of how things turned out, but I know that would be a long shot.
After looking at the images again, it would seem that Romulus might be the more likely candidate, because if it was Praxis, Qo'nos would probably be close by in the shot.
Anyway, it's fun speculating.
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That's an interesting diatribe, but JJ doesn't have anything to do with Trek-2017.
(other than perhaps a slight influence on what the SP-Fx might look like overall)
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That is true, but despite being called "peanuts", there are no peas in them.
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If I actually knew what you were going for with that, I might have a really nice come back.
As it is, my point was that Bee-itching about JJ in this particular thread, is kinda-sorta pointless.
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My point was that the comment you replied to had nothing to do with 2017 Trek in particular but it was just a fact, stated for general amusement in reaction to the sequence comparison. There was no bitching involved
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#LegalizeAwoo
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch."
"We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
Because someone was thinking "How can we make this as completely opaque and unapproachable to new viewers as possible...?"
Blair’s first officer is Dennet Irroi, an Andorian tactical officer Blair has know since their Academy days, and possibly the only other person on the ship who knows the contents of Blair’s sealed records. Dennet is a staunch Andorian-warrior traditionalist and a unbending taskmaster on the ship. While Blair is familiar with most of Irroi’s unusual Andorian customs, Dennet still surprises him from time to time. Their sharp differences in personality have been a source of strength to both of them throughout their careers and they excel at “good cop/bad cop” ploys. While Irroi seldom pushes to shoot first, he is adamant about the USS Decker being the ship that shoots last.
The Decker’s mission takes the form of multi-month sorties into the uncharted territories, interspersed with roughly quarterly resupply stops at New Santiago. New Santiago is a prosperous second generation multi-species Federation colony, and a crucial toe-hold in the Talien Sector. The periodic return of the Decker is a welcome sight for the locals, though the dock master sometimes squabbles with her chief engineer. New Santiago is so important to Federation interests that a new Star Base is under construction in orbit above the planet, though so far only the framework and a few interconnected habitation modules, deflector arrays, and power plants are on line - approximately 15% of its final structure.
What had all the earmarks of a quiet and productive cartography and astrometric tour of duty for the USS Decker is turned upside down when an armed Tholian fleet warps into the New Santiago system. In a matter of days the crystalline spider-like aliens have established a colony on the innermost planet of the system - a fiery hellhole uninhabitable to most Federation species. While the Tholians under the command of General Karik Thrit avoid fighting, they rebuff any claims the New Santiago/Federation government makes on the whole of the system. Tensions rise as the Tholian’s ensnare, board, and inspect any traffic moving though the inner system, enforcing their ‘security perimeter’ and creating a sort of ‘system within the system’ in the grip of an often hostile power.
Captain Blair, his crew, and his under-gunned ship are called front and center to protect Federation interests and lives against a superior force that has yet to fire a single shot...
#LegalizeAwoo
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch."
"We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
Get the Forums Enhancement Extension!
"Bring Your Peters Out For A Good Cleaning"
<chuckle>
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This is the interesting part to me...
"...The author has been praised for her knack with tying disparate bits of Trek continuity together in her novels, tying relatively obscure or one-time events from the Voyager television episodes into her writing, and may bring a similar skill set to the Trek 2017 writers room."
Just think of all the stuff she will have to work with.
She's like the whole STO Creative Writing Team, in one person.
<chuckle>
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Add Diane Duane, David Drake, and Timothy Zahn to this and you've got my dream team.
— Sabaton, "Great War"
Check out https://unitedfederationofpla.net/s/
which cryptic could afford if they stopped spending most of their budget allotment on VA, which isn't happening any time soon
#LegalizeAwoo
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch."
"We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
what no michael stackpole?