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Sol Beta?

admiralq1732admiralq1732 Member Posts: 1,561 Arc User
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Why is the Sol system in the BETA quadrant? It's supposed to be Alpha.
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  • tempus64tempus64 Member Posts: 806 Arc User
    http://forum.arcgames.com/startrekonline/discussion/1185971/tacos-sector-space-faq/p1
  • kjwashingtonkjwashington Member Posts: 2,529 Arc User
    Every time there's a thread asking why sol is in the beta quadrant, the devs lose more faith in humanity.
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  • ltminnsltminns Member Posts: 12,572 Arc User
    It is right at the border and they had to put it somewhere. They choose it to be where all the other story planets were, so Beta. I think Borticus explained it at the time of the Sector Space Revamp.
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  • admiralq1732admiralq1732 Member Posts: 1,561 Arc User
    tempus64 wrote: »
    http://forum.arcgames.com/startrekonline/discussion/1185971/tacos-sector-space-faq/p1

    well that excuse is bull. Alpha should be all fed space with the Cardassians being the border and Beta split between the Rommies and the KDF. Cryptic deserves a facepalm on that one.
  • sevenofnine13141sevenofnine13141 Member Posts: 4,273 Arc User
    Have you even considered that due to stellar drift, Sol would likely end up completely in the Beta Quadrant?
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  • kjwashingtonkjwashington Member Posts: 2,529 Arc User
    admiralq1732 wrote: »
    tempus64 wrote: »
    http://forum.arcgames.com/startrekonline/discussion/1185971/tacos-sector-space-faq/p1

    well that excuse is bull. Alpha should be all fed space with the Cardassians being the border and Beta split between the Rommies and the KDF. Cryptic deserves a facepalm on that one.

    Except that isn't how it works. Do a google image search for Star Trek star charts. All those with the divide between the Alpha and Beta Quadrants have Sol right on the line. Cryptic making the decision to put it slightly to the Beta side to help early low level players to not have to switch zones to travel to ESD was a quality of life decision.
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  • amayakitsuneamayakitsune Member Posts: 977 Arc User
    admiralq1732 wrote: »
    tempus64 wrote: »
    http://forum.arcgames.com/startrekonline/discussion/1185971/tacos-sector-space-faq/p1

    well that excuse is bull. Alpha should be all fed space with the Cardassians being the border and Beta split between the Rommies and the KDF. Cryptic deserves a facepalm on that one.

    Yea... but you see... thats not how it actually is in the show... Sol is on the border of the two quadrants.
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  • sevenofnine13141sevenofnine13141 Member Posts: 4,273 Arc User
    Again, most likely due to stellar drift, Sol ended up in the Beta Quadrant. Atleast that is what it looked like.
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  • metaliantmetaliant Member Posts: 55 Arc User
    I have always thought Bajor and Cardie space was in the Beta quadrant.
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  • lianthelialianthelia Member Posts: 7,887 Arc User
    This one again...so many of the same topic it shouldn't have been hard to use the search.
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  • daveynydaveyny Member Posts: 8,227 Arc User
    edited November 2015
    admiralq1732 wrote: »
    Why is the Sol system in the BETA quadrant? It's supposed to be Alpha.
    admiralq1732 wrote: »
    tempus64 wrote: »
    http://forum.arcgames.com/startrekonline/discussion/1185971/tacos-sector-space-faq/p1

    well that excuse is bull. Alpha should be all fed space with the Cardassians being the border and Beta split between the Rommies and the KDF. Cryptic deserves a facepalm on that one.

    Your opinion is duly noted and just like the other 15 or so threads about this subject that have come and gone...
    Totally irrelevant at this point in the games development.

    Time to either accept that this is how it is, or move on to another game.
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  • xyquarzexyquarze Member Posts: 2,120 Arc User
    Especially since canon sources are self-contradictory, there is only so much you can do. We have in canon that Q'onos is in the beta quadrant but on another occasion the whole Klingon empire was situated in alpha.
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  • leemwatsonleemwatson Member Posts: 5,469 Arc User
    edited November 2015
    The very fact that the Feds and Klingons are 'Alpha Quadrant' is a misconception and a generalization. The Dominion used the 'Alpha' Quadrant term regularly in DS9, but it's true meaning was the 'Alpha and Beta Quadrant Alliance'. The writers would have thought that this would have always been a mouthful, on screen, and it would have gotten tedious. However, the Klingons have always been in the Beta Quadrant and Sol, when the quadrants were established in TNG (this was the first reference as TOS 'Quadrants' were different and inconsistent), always bordered both Quadrants, especially after the UFP headquarters awas based there.
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  • cidjackcidjack Member Posts: 2,017 Arc User
    This again?
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  • anazondaanazonda Member Posts: 8,399 Arc User
    ltminns wrote: »
    It is right at the border and they had to put it somewhere. They choose it to be where all the other story planets were, so Beta. I think Borticus explained it at the time of the Sector Space Revamp.

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  • ilithynilithyn Member Posts: 903 Arc User
    edited November 2015
    I can't even be bothered with popcorn for this. Can someone hand me that 'Picard double facepalm' gif? I need it.
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  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    Try this one on for size:
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    that's not a collective facepalm, that's fractal art

    THIS is a collective facepalm:

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  • chiyoumikuchiyoumiku Member Posts: 1,028 Arc User
    So the OP thinks an official CBS supported most likely response from Taco is BS....well then the OP needs to get out of his basement and go outside for fresh air.
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  • talonxvtalonxv Member Posts: 4,257 Arc User
    The amount of stupid in this thread from the OP is FRIGHTENING.
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  • gabeoz1gabeoz1 Member Posts: 161 Arc User
    Really, its in neither. Sol system is supposed to be directly on the border between the alpha and beta quadrants. The devs did explain why it is in the beta quadrant is because it's where the majority of the game takes place, you barely spend time in the alpha quadrant compared to being in beta.
  • bloodyrizbloodyriz Member Posts: 1,756 Arc User
    shadowfang240 wrote: »
    that's not a collective facepalm, that's fractal art

    THIS is a collective facepalm:

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    Love that image!​​
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  • zisko#6191 zisko
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    Can we just put sol in the line that divides the alpha and the beta quadrant? It would be nice if the dev take out that wall that is currently dividing the map and just move earth in the middle line.
  • xyquarzexyquarze Member Posts: 2,120 Arc User
    I'd venture the guess that that is not possible right now, otherwise it probably would have come with the sector relaunch.
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  • alexraptorralexraptorr Member Posts: 1,192 Arc User
    I swear Sol has become the new "Where's Sulu" :disappointed:
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  • themetalstickmanthemetalstickman Member Posts: 1,010 Arc User
    Why is anyone still talking about this?​​
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  • sheldonlcoopersheldonlcooper Member Posts: 4,042 Arc User
    kjwashington wrote: »
    Every time there's a thread asking why sol is in the beta quadrant, the devs lose more faith in humanity.

    also an angel loses its wings.
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  • admiralq1732admiralq1732 Member Posts: 1,561 Arc User
    Well frankly the sector reboot wasn't nessecary. it was fine as it was. Most sources place Sol in Alpha and the majority of the Federation in Alpha. And the fact Kitomer was in Beta and a frontier planet leads to say the Klingon Empire is in Beta. SO all you facepalm me i facepalm STO more.
  • talonxvtalonxv Member Posts: 4,257 Arc User
    sheldonlcooper wrote: »
    kjwashington wrote: »
    Every time there's a thread asking why sol is in the beta quadrant, the devs lose more faith in humanity.

    also an angel loses its wings.

    God also kills a kitten.
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  • kyrm347kyrm347 Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited November 2015
    admiralq1732 wrote: »
    Well frankly the sector reboot wasn't nessecary. it was fine as it was. Most sources place Sol in Alpha and the majority of the Federation in Alpha. And the fact Kitomer was in Beta and a frontier planet leads to say the Klingon Empire is in Beta. SO all you facepalm me i facepalm STO more.

    That's how I understood it as well... now I discover the whole issue is more ambiguous, especially with how STO is made. Good to know more.

    Also good to know what kind of a reception I would get if I asked a question on these forums. I think I will keep my questions to myself.

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