I hardly call the conclusion to the Iconian war good. As a returning player, having the level walls during the delta quadrant missions was more annoying than anything I could think of. I went back to the Dyson Sphere until I was 60 just to stop hitting the walls. The patrol missions, yea.... nice fillers. Couldnt think of other ways we could help the alliance? How about actually fighting a war with the vaadwaur rather than patrol here, defend these picket ships, only very few missions actually made sense and the Short Iconian War.... It looks like the Klingons and Federation immediately folded. As a returning player, I found it hard to redo Midnight. I thought it was down well up until Iconia. The TRIBBLE choices, and inability to perform the ACTUAL mission briefing was bad. No matter what choices I made, still the exact same outcome. How about giving us the proper choices, but hey, Mission Failed if I choose to slaughter the Iconians. At least I would take pleasure in knowing, I did the mission. But being forced to save them regardless of your choices was pointless. Why give the illusion of choice if it is just that, an illusion. Scrap any future choices we get to choose.
I find it hard to be excited for New Dawn when returning to experience all the changes, I wish I didn't. Just Level Walls, fake choices, and just an overall, negative experience with this Season. Why should I stay for Season 11 when season 10 and 10.5 felt dull and boring. Well maybe I am being too hard on the Delta Missions. The non patrol missions were good. But being given missions to go and do patrols to "show them what teamwork is about" how about having me take a fleet and fight the vaadwaur? Defend a system that is under attack and join in on the ground? It feels like the best war I went though was the Klingon-Federation War when I started playing back in 2013. I still need to redo the klingon since there was a great deal of changes there. But I am not being overly exicted for Season 11. Just everything I have encounted since returning to play, it felt lack luster. VERY LACK LUSTER and BORING. I hope Season 11 adds fun for me.
Looking forward to it. Any chance of a T6 Nebula class anytime soon????
Just a matter of patience. They seem to be working their way through the tier 5 catalog. Frankly considering how the updates to the canon designs have been going the Nebula may be in the next batch just based on how it shares parts with the Galaxy.
If the pattern continues, we'll get another 3-pack. but the blog post suggested that escorts are next, then sci. So B'Rel/Defiant/T'Varo then Nebula/Varanus/Ha'nom.
I actually have a strange hunch we may see a T6 Vesta before a Nebula.
Vesta's a 3-pack ship. What would it be matched with(to make a 9-pack) for KDF and Rom?
I'm not sure it'd get a 3 pack tier 6 version, or a 9 pack bundle. I just have a hunch that it'll be the next fed Sci ship to get the treatment. Though it is just a hunch and not set in stone anywhere.
Join date is wrong, I've actually been around since STO Beta.
True alters don't have a "main". Account wide unlocks for all unique event rewards!!
None of the T5 3-ship bundles have seen a refit yet (well maybe except the galaxy bundle but I'm thinking more along the lines of the Vesta/Odyssey/Kumari/etc). I wonder how will they go about it in the end...
+1 T6 ship, increasing the family size to 4
Or +3 T6 ships, doubling the family size
I'm hoping for the first to be honest.
On the practical side, zen-wise, peeps would come out cheaper and still get a new hull mat and new customization. ^^
A zen ship console set comprised of SIX different uni consoles would kinda sound ludicrous (I know they are totally optional but usually set bonuses still come with stuff like this). A 4 piece set would make more sense
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"Ad astra audacter eamus in alis fidelium."
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"To boldly go to the stars on the wings of the faithful."
I hardly call the conclusion to the Iconian war good. As a returning player, having the level walls during the delta quadrant missions was more annoying than anything I could think of. I went back to the Dyson Sphere until I was 60 just to stop hitting the walls. The patrol missions, yea.... nice fillers. Couldnt think of other ways we could help the alliance? How about actually fighting a war with the vaadwaur rather than patrol here, defend these picket ships, only very few missions actually made sense and the Short Iconian War.... It looks like the Klingons and Federation immediately folded. As a returning player, I found it hard to redo Midnight. I thought it was down well up until Iconia. The TRIBBLE choices, and inability to perform the ACTUAL mission briefing was bad. No matter what choices I made, still the exact same outcome. How about giving us the proper choices, but hey, Mission Failed if I choose to slaughter the Iconians. At least I would take pleasure in knowing, I did the mission. But being forced to save them regardless of your choices was pointless. Why give the illusion of choice if it is just that, an illusion. Scrap any future choices we get to choose.
Arguably the illusion of choice was to maintain the suspense. However clearly once we met the Iconians and ran into Kagran the idea that we were simply going to go through with the mission was hardly a foregone conclusion.
I can understand the idea of the Romulans or Klingons going through with the mission, but for Starfleet Officer there was really only one choice. Choosing NOT to commit genocide when given the chance is easily the most Star Trek answer there is. So it's commit genocide and not be certain how the future you're returning to will play out or not commit suicide and allow the Iconians the opportunity to return to the species they used to be.
I find it hard to be excited for New Dawn when returning to experience all the changes, I wish I didn't. Just Level Walls, fake choices, and just an overall, negative experience with this Season. Why should I stay for Season 11 when season 10 and 10.5 felt dull and boring. Well maybe I am being too hard on the Delta Missions. The non patrol missions were good. But being given missions to go and do patrols to "show them what teamwork is about" how about having me take a fleet and fight the vaadwaur? Defend a system that is under attack and join in on the ground? It feels like the best war I went though was the Klingon-Federation War when I started playing back in 2013. I still need to redo the klingon since there was a great deal of changes there. But I am not being overly exicted for Season 11. Just everything I have encounted since returning to play, it felt lack luster. VERY LACK LUSTER and BORING. I hope Season 11 adds fun for me.
I'm expecting the second. why? because T6 is an upgrade. and a single ship can't do everything the 3-pack can.
Unless they gave it like a LtCdr Uni slot.
But the actual issue is the console slots though.
"Rise like Lions after slumber, In unvanquishable number, Shake your chains to earth like dew, Which in sleep had fallen on you-Ye are many they are few"
heh, yeah, if we had killed the Iconians in the past.... the galaxy would have been very different.
But yeah, I can't think of any reason they wouldn't make Vesta a 3-pack.
I can. T6 versions wouldn't come with the consoles the T5 versions do, and it'd probably harm sales in the long run. Who's going to fork out for a T6 three pack when they also have to fork out for a T5 three pack to get the consoles. I know I wouldn't rebuy a three pack at T6 level, but if they made a single T6 Vesta science only variant, I'd probably buy it as I do love my Vesta.
Join date is wrong, I've actually been around since STO Beta.
True alters don't have a "main". Account wide unlocks for all unique event rewards!!
This is the kicker, if we can go back on time, why not go back and dont allow Sela do the bad deed, she did. Just throw her in the brick and make peace with the Iconians in the past.
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Most unexpectedly, this turned into a flame-fest! Closed it goes!. /sigh What flamefestery is this? pwlaughingtrendy
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heh, yeah, if we had killed the Iconians in the past.... the galaxy would have been very different.
But yeah, I can't think of any reason they wouldn't make Vesta a 3-pack.
I can. T6 versions wouldn't come with the consoles the T5 versions do, and it'd probably harm sales in the long run. Who's going to fork out for a T6 three pack when they also have to fork out for a T5 three pack to get the consoles. I know I wouldn't rebuy a three pack at T6 level, but if they made a single T6 Vesta science only variant, I'd probably buy it as I do love my Vesta.
Actually.... they could just make a second console set that has it's own group bonus. Then allow use of the old console set on the new ships. But of course there still remains the issue of what the Romulan and KDF version will be....
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heh, yeah, if we had killed the Iconians in the past.... the galaxy would have been very different.
But yeah, I can't think of any reason they wouldn't make Vesta a 3-pack.
I can. T6 versions wouldn't come with the consoles the T5 versions do, and it'd probably harm sales in the long run. Who's going to fork out for a T6 three pack when they also have to fork out for a T5 three pack to get the consoles. I know I wouldn't rebuy a three pack at T6 level, but if they made a single T6 Vesta science only variant, I'd probably buy it as I do love my Vesta.
Actually.... they could just make a second console set that has it's own group bonus. Then allow use of the old console set on the new ships. But of course there still remains the issue of what the Romulan and KDF version will be....
True, that is a possibility. I'm still not sure if I could bring myself to buy another three pack of them haha, one I may push the boat out for though. As for the KDF and Roms, it's possible they could add in two new KDF and Rom science vessels as counterparts or just not release KDF and Rom ships at the same time. Wouldn't be the first time, already several more Fed T6 ships than either of the other factions have.
Join date is wrong, I've actually been around since STO Beta.
True alters don't have a "main". Account wide unlocks for all unique event rewards!!
I'm glad that as always, Cryptic's attention to details--or lack thereof--is consistent. Tell me, how did Leeta manage not to age in the last 40 years?
Stolen Future Technology?
Maybe their "Insurrection" Event lead to a different outcome than ours and now the youth fountain radiation of that nebula is available to the rich and powerful?
And it seems Bajorans in general age well - the arbiter that handled the case of Curzon Dax apparent betrayal was 100 years and looked like a 60 year old human woman or something like that.
I'd forgotten about that, but that is true that the Bajoran lifespan may be longer than the human one. We humans seem to be pretty lowly in that regard in the Trek universe.
Is there any race OTHER than Ocampans which ages faster than humans?
How about Jem'Hadar? Grown-up in three days, not sure what the (natural) upper limit may be though.
After 5 years of STO, I think I'm in the group of people who find it harder to be overwhelmed.
The banality of Star Trek Online has put me right dab in the center of ambivalence. I'd love nothing more than to be amazed and thrilled at upcoming news, but lately I see a lot of style and a lot less substance. Which is good, since I like shiny things and I do love my bread and circuses.
I see a lot of pandering and doublespeak, and that disappoints me. I love Star Trek Online, but I also love innovation.
My initial impression is this is a New Dawn in mediocrity.
So, we'll see where this goes. I'd love to have my preconceptions challenged.
The new season is going to be just like Rammstein's 'Sonne' Everyone is going to grind for Snowwhite
The only "Snow White" I grind...
Lives with me and helps pay the bills.
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Take a good hard look at the galaxy map Although I'm not 100% certain that the sector blocks 1:1 represent all of known/explored space, I'm willing to bet that even in 2410, most of the Alpha and Beta quadrants also remain unexplored.
"Helm, take us out!"
"Uh... course, Captain?"
"There's enough to go around... Let's start easy: dead ahead, warp factor 7! Notify me when we leave charted space. Number One, you have the bridge!"
*Vulcan XO's eyebrows fly off*
Please!?!? That would be sooooo awesome!
CM
"Equipped with his five senses, man explores the universe around him and calls the adventure science." - Edwin Hubble
I've been looking forward to this, especially as it's been been very quiet the past few weeks on STO. Looking forward to the new cardassian story arc especially.
I actually have a strange hunch we may see a T6 Vesta before a Nebula.
Vesta's a 3-pack ship. What would it be matched with(to make a 9-pack) for KDF and Rom?
Nothing. They have made it crystal clear to me they have no intention of adding any real science ships to the KDF/Rom lineup. As pleased as I would be to be surprised, I just don't see it happening.
I tried dealing with the Ha'nom at Subadmiral and found myself going back to the Subcommander Mogai. Too me, it's that bad.
As for the Varanus, It's a Gorn ship. I'm not spending anything on a Gorn ship. Klingon science ship or NO DEAL. And NO I don't accept the "Klingons are too stupid for science ships" excuse as fact.
Ya I know what game i'll be playing on Oct 27 when it comes to STO vs TOR...TOR wins
At least you can get characters fully leveled to 60 in SWTOR to start the new content plus so many more "free" shinies. I will split my time between SWTOR and STO but the former has made a more robust model and those goodies just for being a "sub" gives me more incentive to be there.
if you think about it 14 bucks a month ant so bad.. Compare to what people spend on free to play games. .
So I don't mind splitting my time between both games
does tor still make me pay for hotbars? if so **** that noise
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I find it hard to be excited for New Dawn when returning to experience all the changes, I wish I didn't. Just Level Walls, fake choices, and just an overall, negative experience with this Season. Why should I stay for Season 11 when season 10 and 10.5 felt dull and boring. Well maybe I am being too hard on the Delta Missions. The non patrol missions were good. But being given missions to go and do patrols to "show them what teamwork is about" how about having me take a fleet and fight the vaadwaur? Defend a system that is under attack and join in on the ground? It feels like the best war I went though was the Klingon-Federation War when I started playing back in 2013. I still need to redo the klingon since there was a great deal of changes there. But I am not being overly exicted for Season 11. Just everything I have encounted since returning to play, it felt lack luster. VERY LACK LUSTER and BORING. I hope Season 11 adds fun for me.
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I actually have a strange hunch we may see a T6 Vesta before a Nebula.
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I'm not sure it'd get a 3 pack tier 6 version, or a 9 pack bundle. I just have a hunch that it'll be the next fed Sci ship to get the treatment. Though it is just a hunch and not set in stone anywhere.
I'm hoping for the first to be honest.
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"To boldly go to the stars on the wings of the faithful."
My character Tsin'xing
I can understand the idea of the Romulans or Klingons going through with the mission, but for Starfleet Officer there was really only one choice. Choosing NOT to commit genocide when given the chance is easily the most Star Trek answer there is. So it's commit genocide and not be certain how the future you're returning to will play out or not commit suicide and allow the Iconians the opportunity to return to the species they used to be.
Good luck.
Unless they gave it like a LtCdr Uni slot.
But the actual issue is the console slots though.
But yeah, I can't think of any reason they wouldn't make Vesta a 3-pack.
My character Tsin'xing
I can. T6 versions wouldn't come with the consoles the T5 versions do, and it'd probably harm sales in the long run. Who's going to fork out for a T6 three pack when they also have to fork out for a T5 three pack to get the consoles. I know I wouldn't rebuy a three pack at T6 level, but if they made a single T6 Vesta science only variant, I'd probably buy it as I do love my Vesta.
Most unexpectedly, this turned into a flame-fest! Closed it goes!. /sigh What flamefestery is this? pwlaughingtrendy
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Excited to see how ND goes, that new battlezone is going to be my new favorite place in-game.
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True, that is a possibility. I'm still not sure if I could bring myself to buy another three pack of them haha, one I may push the boat out for though. As for the KDF and Roms, it's possible they could add in two new KDF and Rom science vessels as counterparts or just not release KDF and Rom ships at the same time. Wouldn't be the first time, already several more Fed T6 ships than either of the other factions have.
How about Jem'Hadar? Grown-up in three days, not sure what the (natural) upper limit may be though.
Contest thread: http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=1006281
After 5 years of STO, I think I'm in the group of people who find it harder to be overwhelmed.
The banality of Star Trek Online has put me right dab in the center of ambivalence. I'd love nothing more than to be amazed and thrilled at upcoming news, but lately I see a lot of style and a lot less substance. Which is good, since I like shiny things and I do love my bread and circuses.
I see a lot of pandering and doublespeak, and that disappoints me. I love Star Trek Online, but I also love innovation.
My initial impression is this is a New Dawn in mediocrity.
So, we'll see where this goes. I'd love to have my preconceptions challenged.
The only "Snow White" I grind...
Lives with me and helps pay the bills.
I Was A Trekkie Before It Was Cool ... Sept. 8th, 1966 ... Not To Mention Before Most Folks Around Here Were Born!
Forever a STO Veteran-Minion
Please!?!? That would be sooooo awesome!
CM
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"To boldly go to the stars on the wings of the faithful."
Nothing. They have made it crystal clear to me they have no intention of adding any real science ships to the KDF/Rom lineup. As pleased as I would be to be surprised, I just don't see it happening.
I tried dealing with the Ha'nom at Subadmiral and found myself going back to the Subcommander Mogai. Too me, it's that bad.
As for the Varanus, It's a Gorn ship. I'm not spending anything on a Gorn ship. Klingon science ship or NO DEAL. And NO I don't accept the "Klingons are too stupid for science ships" excuse as fact.
My character Tsin'xing
does tor still make me pay for hotbars? if so **** that noise