Of these two ships Epsilon is the only one I would spend money on. Between Alpha or Omega I would never bother with ether both are just to bland, and really don't seem inspired in the least. So with how this is going it seems I will be flying my Atrox for some time to come.
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Aw man. They STILL want Omega more? What if they told you guys a real Jupiter clone would come later? Would you guys be persuaded to change your votes? : (
This whole thing has been a real downer. If this happens I at least want the bottom nacelles as an option please (like on Deep Space Science).
Vulcans might find the functionality of Omega compared to Epsilon... illogical. Haha but that's why every Jupiter ever to siege a Klingon based gets slapped right?
Ok, I'd like to say there are more people (atleast from what I've seen on Facebook and Forums) who voted for the Omega due to it's design making more sense for a carrier over the others. Also, Illogical? The Omega seems the more logical of the two due to how much hanger space it has.
I generally don't like voting for the better of two evils... and I'm not terribly fond of either of these choices...
But I'm going to go Epsilon. The back end- nacelles and drive section, is pretty attractive. Seriously dislike the saucers on both ships though. Gamma and Theta were my horses in this race, and they're toast.
There isn't much point, we know which is going to win this, I think we all knew what was going to win from the start of this. I'm going with Omega even though I dislike the different sized warp engines, the hanger bays wins it and the Epsilon just looks too much like an MVAE.
I will say, as others have said, none of these choices are what I would have liked to have seen as a Starfleet carrier, from my perspective having to choose the least undesirable from a list of undesirable choices is hardly conducive to a potential sale.
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I'm going Epsilon on this one. It just looks beefy and rugged. Omega looks big, yes, but dainty and fragile with it's overly long pylons. I want something with compactness (is too a word) and hardiness (also a word).
Epsilon, compact while still being large, proper nacelle placements suggesting it is built to get the most speed out of a heavyweight, real great blend of curves and sharp angles, good proportions. I can say none of these things for Omega, and really hope it gets eliminated.
I'll be very happy with either Alpha or Epsilon (sad my favorite Sigma was gone) but finally seeing Epsilon rendered I'm really hoping it wins.
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Omega and Alpha look similar enough to be two options of the same customizable ship. Can we call this a tie already and get both of them?
Or better yet, neither of them. Neither of these seem to be Carriers to me, and neither is exciting to me an any way. Only one of my picks has made the second round so far.
Personally I say #TeamTheta, #TeamBeta, #TeamGamma, #TeamSigma, and probably in that order. They are all more interesting. Preferably put the Beta saucer, on the Theta hull and engine combo, add a pass through hanger, and maybe a couple of extra hangers on front and back, and finally add a mission pod on the top of the saucer (with mini deflectors and weapon stations). If I could get motivated, I should draw it up and post it. sigh... Need the energy though.
Well... If I have to pick one, I say #TeamEpsilon just because it is kinda unusual with the tucked above mount warp nacelles.
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I wish we could have seen all of them in 3d art for the vote off, they look better now in 3d for choosing!!! Now like Omega a alot better overall, hate the squared off sides still. Really wanted Sigma!!!
Aw man, it was tied for awhile... However it appears we are still losing the good designs because people somehow still think it's a Jupiter class. Even after they changed it to look less like a Jupiter.
Bah. I don't think I could complain enough. : (
The part I find funny here is that most of these people want a tactical FAW boat carrier to pew pew, yet Jupiter's NPC abilities clearly suggest it's a science ship. (Gravity Wells, anyone?)
Careful guys, if it's a Jupiter you want, you might just get one (actually, I really want it support focused anyways personally, FAW pew pew just doesn't feel fun now).
I believe they're saying the width of the saucer is shaped similar to the Jupiter, where the nose of the saucer is more narrow and curves outward to be wider and straight along the sides.
Again I say skip to the end...Omega is the carrier of choice. Now ensure it has at LEAST 3 weapons front and back. Then ensure it has TWO hangar bays. Then make two different carrier pets for it (and not necessarily EXCLUSIVELY for it)...a frigate size (one launched at a time) and a fighter size (3 launched at a time). Then of course the cool unique universal console. Complete! Can't wait to fly her!!
Again, what is it with you and these "make this carrier a normal carrier" posts? Everyone else seems to be shooting for the moon wanting 4/3 weapons and 3-4 hangars and all that and here you are just demanding that this carrier be what it will obviously get by default for simply being a carrier.
W-wait. 3 hangar bays?!? Please tell me that's only an artist's interpretation of what this'll look like.
Well, I'd be okay with it if it IS the first 3-hangar Carrier. But... it's a little unbelievable given that there's no precedent for that yet.
Pretty sure that's just for show if you look at most the new ships that have come out they all have multiple shuttle bays but only one shuttle bay slot.
It's called "setting a precedent". Not hard to imagine, though. I have four toons in play. Each has a two-hangar ship that I also equip with the Scorpion Fighter device (from the Vault mission). So effectively I have three bays. It's especially great for my science officer toon...who gets to ALSO summon a photonic fleet. In that case I've got extra craft buzzing around EVERYWHERE!
That device is nothing like having a third bay, it has TRIBBLE cool down and limited charges. And it's only called "setting a precedent" if you actually set one. What it's currently called is "status quo" where all flight deck vessels just have one hangar bay and all carriers just have two hangar bays regardless of how many doors you slap on it.
The Nebula-configured Odyssey needs to be a thing.
Well, no surprise there. But I must admit I like the Omega less now that I have seen it from different angles. Alpha vs Omega could be a close one indeed.
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They count as heavy fighters/shuttles. That's 4 per hangar, rather than 2 per hangar like frigates.
But I'm going to go Epsilon. The back end- nacelles and drive section, is pretty attractive. Seriously dislike the saucers on both ships though. Gamma and Theta were my horses in this race, and they're toast.
I will say, as others have said, none of these choices are what I would have liked to have seen as a Starfleet carrier, from my perspective having to choose the least undesirable from a list of undesirable choices is hardly conducive to a potential sale.
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Take the saucer section of the Omega, Strap the Epsion Hull and Nacelles, make it a 4 Pylon version, I'd say the following.
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I'll be very happy with either Alpha or Epsilon (sad my favorite Sigma was gone) but finally seeing Epsilon rendered I'm really hoping it wins.
I'm definitely a fan of the more sleek, stretched out design as opposed to the bulkier look of Epsilon, in this case.
Omega's got my vote!
Or better yet, neither of them. Neither of these seem to be Carriers to me, and neither is exciting to me an any way. Only one of my picks has made the second round so far.
Personally I say #TeamTheta, #TeamBeta, #TeamGamma, #TeamSigma, and probably in that order. They are all more interesting. Preferably put the Beta saucer, on the Theta hull and engine combo, add a pass through hanger, and maybe a couple of extra hangers on front and back, and finally add a mission pod on the top of the saucer (with mini deflectors and weapon stations). If I could get motivated, I should draw it up and post it. sigh... Need the energy though.
Well... If I have to pick one, I say #TeamEpsilon just because it is kinda unusual with the tucked above mount warp nacelles.
again having to correct people... omega looks NOTHING Like the Jupiter...beer goggles, acid, upside, in a mirror...it looks nothing like the JUPITER
http://memory-beta.wikia.com/wiki/Jupiter_class
please stop picking the Omega because it is the Jupiter....this is actually becoming an incredibly silly statement.
Okay, fine, I'll bite...
Bah. I don't think I could complain enough. : (
The part I find funny here is that most of these people want a tactical FAW boat carrier to pew pew, yet Jupiter's NPC abilities clearly suggest it's a science ship. (Gravity Wells, anyone?)
Edited to add: http://sto.gamepedia.com/Jupiter_Class_Dreadnought
Careful guys, if it's a Jupiter you want, you might just get one (actually, I really want it support focused anyways personally, FAW pew pew just doesn't feel fun now).
https://pwimages-a.akamaihd.net/arc/d4/f5/d4f51dd559a3c03717fb29b02b7cb7f41444667011.png
Now, tell me, atleast those who currently think the Omega looks a lot like the Jupiter, what similarities are there?
I believe they're saying the width of the saucer is shaped similar to the Jupiter, where the nose of the saucer is more narrow and curves outward to be wider and straight along the sides.
Again, what is it with you and these "make this carrier a normal carrier" posts? Everyone else seems to be shooting for the moon wanting 4/3 weapons and 3-4 hangars and all that and here you are just demanding that this carrier be what it will obviously get by default for simply being a carrier.
That device is nothing like having a third bay, it has TRIBBLE cool down and limited charges. And it's only called "setting a precedent" if you actually set one. What it's currently called is "status quo" where all flight deck vessels just have one hangar bay and all carriers just have two hangar bays regardless of how many doors you slap on it.
The Nebula-configured Odyssey needs to be a thing.
I could go for an omega/epsilon hybrid of this nature. Make it so!
The Nebula-configured Odyssey needs to be a thing.