Awesome looking, I think the devs should have voted for parts of the ship instead for whole ships, that way we could have chosen the saucer, the nacelles, the body ewtc.
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Most unexpectedly, this turned into a flame-fest! Closed it goes!. /sigh What flamefestery is this? pwlaughingtrendy
Now the real question is: will Alpha or Omega win?
It would be cool to have both designs in the game with interchangeable parts, and possibly even the Epsilon nacelles for those who want a more compact look.
Your father was captain of a starship for twelve minutes. He saved 800 lives, including your mother's, and yours.
You know what would be nice, if they took that one bridge pack that has that massive round bridge that has like 20 stations, revamp into a c-in-c a la BSG. If there was ever a fed ship that would use that big bridge it would be this one
All of the quads remind me of the Eclipse Intel Cruiser, but I have to say this hybridization of parts from both the Omega and the Epsilon is appealing. I didn't choose the Epsilon primarily because I thought the warp engines looked too big, making the ship appear smaller, but in this configuration the engine hull proportions are much more credible for a carrier. Throw in the flying bridge pod from the Alpha and we have a winner.
As you wish
And for the record this is ALL STILL Arc's property, not mine. NOT MINE.
Im just kit bashing for the heck of it and the people have spoken.
Well, as is, I think this would make all parties happy, and to spice it more, make the nebula mission pod optional or a couple different mission pod looks ...I would happily accept this version of the ship..
All of the quads remind me of the Eclipse Intel Cruiser, but I have to say this hybridization of parts from both the Omega and the Epsilon is appealing. I didn't choose the Epsilon primarily because I thought the warp engines looked too big, making the ship appear smaller, but in this configuration the engine hull proportions are much more credible for a carrier. Throw in the flying bridge pod from the Alpha and we have a winner.
As you wish
And for the record this is ALL STILL Arc's property, not mine. NOT MINE.
Im just kit bashing for the heck of it and the people have spoken.
Slapping alpha's pod on there actually worked wonders for the aft view that was bothering me a bit.
I imagine the reason they didn't let us "design like Frankenstein" is that we'd need interaction with the artist, moving things around and trying different things. Especially to do that by community vote I could see being a nightmare.
Hopefully they'll see the positive response to the kitbashes though and model a few of the designs that are most compatible for kitbashing so we get some customization options on this puppy.
Also, is that a deflector on omega's nose or is that yet another opening to a hangar? On the underside there's a lit "slit" that could be a dauntless style deflector like the one we saw oh the pathfinder and manticore...
The Nebula-configured Odyssey needs to be a thing.
Slapping alpha's pod on there actually worked wonders for the aft view that was bothering me a bit.
I imagine the reason they didn't let us "design like Frankenstein" is that we'd need interaction with the artist, moving things around and trying different things. Especially to do that by community vote I could see being a nightmare.
Hopefully they'll see the positive response to the kitbashes though and model a few of the designs that are most compatible for kitbashing so we get some customization options on this puppy.
Also, is that a deflector on omega's nose or is that yet another opening to a hangar? On the underside there's a lit "slit" that could be a dauntless style deflector like the one we saw oh the pathfinder and manticore...
I think that's the deflector, it's lit differently than the hangers, the slit underneath I don't know, it's not lit like a hanger, it seems kind of narrow for a deflector but it could be one considering how small the main one seems to be, it might just be hull lighting, but who can say, once again most of the views except one in these drawing appears to be purposely under detailed. It might be some kind of specialized weapon emplacement on a 180 mount, considering this thing should turn like a pig it's going to need something.
If something is not broken, don't fix it, if it is broken, don't leave it broken.
Something tells me the designs are already made, but I'm really starting to like the idea of an Omega Epsilon Alpha hybrid.
my conspiracy theory mind is in overtime as well on this, I have too much Garibaldi in me to simply accept that we've had full control of this event, I mean the final 2 ships are alpha and omega...go figure....
Still, I really dislike the two different sizes of nacelles; that always bugs me. But I HATE, with a BURNING PURPLE PASSION, the hull that JUTS OUT THE BACK OF THE EPSILON!!!
That is by far the MOST IRRITATING thing of ANY of these ships (which, I am most pleased that none of the ones with that have won thus far). That was a mistake for the Command ships, and it's a mistake for any future ship, Period.
W-wait. 3 hangar bays?!? Please tell me that's only an artist's interpretation of what this'll look like.
Well, I'd be okay with it if it IS the first 3-hangar Carrier. But... it's a little unbelievable given that there's no precedent for that yet.
I highly doubt that. Probablly only the design inspired from the real life carriers. The launch bays from sides are for launching fighters, while the one in the middle is for landings. Just like carriers of today have 2 runways/catapolts and 1 landing runway.
I wouldn't count my chickens before they hatch. Remember, this is the first True Fed carrier. I mean we've gotten others but they were all half assed. I'm sure you would agree. I bet cryptic goes all out with this baby. The last time we had a "build your ship promotion" we got the Odyssey. It wouldn't suprise me one bit to see 3 hanger bays and escorts as the pets.
Cryptic knows the pressure is on with this one. I say they go all out. (Fingers crossed anyways).
I voted Delta because, well, it's different from the rest of the design options. Plus, I rather like the mission pod up top.
Still, my prediction is that the final round will be a pseudo-Biblical match up. In fact, this Carrier should have an Inertia of 21 and a Turn Rate of 6... I am the Alpha and the Omega, the winner and runner-up. I will give unto him that is a Fed the Carrier of the pets of the hangar, freely.
...mostly because we all see what's coming and I wanted to throw Epsilon a bone. Oh, and to amend my own prediction there, in addition to the Inertia of 21 and Turn of 6, it shall be called the Revelation-class. I'll also admit that it probably won't be given freely, but rather at a cost of 3000 Zen plus an optional Fleet Ship Module.
New Testament says "Thou shall be 3 beasts, one of the Land, Sea and Air and they will demand a sacrafice of 6000zen for the first few that come to worship. They shall be blessed and rewarded for thier loyalty and be given a vessel to command for each of the beast. Those who linger and withhold the offering but want the blessing must give a sacrafice of 9000zen. As is was with the Fathers so shall it be with the sons.
Split the difference; two hangers - with frigate pets (probably Meridian-class Frigates and we'll get "Light Cruiser T6" with a Meridian-skin that we have to own as well as the carrier to be able to use the hanger pets) - and a console that summons 'support vessels'.
"If you can't take a little bloody nose, maybe you ought to go back home and crawl under your bed. It's not safe out here. It's wondrous, with treasures to satiate desires both subtle and gross; but it's not for the timid." -- Q, TNG: "Q-Who?"
^Words that every player should keep in mind, especially whenever there's a problem with the game...
Take the saucer section of the Omega, Strap the Epsion Hull and Nacelles, make it a 4 Pylon version, I'd say the following.
I could go for an omega/epsilon hybrid of this nature. Make it so!
It is done.
Epsilon/Omega Hybrid. Yes my paint skills wont get me hired anytime soon XD
I cannot even begin to explain the awesomeness of this. I like the symmetry of epsilons nacelles, but the omega body is so much more like a carrier. The combination of the two is a perfect ship. Even if epsilon nacelles on Omega was relegated to a mere customization option, this would induce me to purchase the ship.
I've been voting for the winner all this time..Epsilon was doomed to fall short against Omega by the looks of things, but Alpha and Omega? That will be close.
Just had a bit of an idea for the BOff Layouts - hopefully this option can be considered, and implemented at least partially.
Rather than just focus on Tac, Eng, or Sci for the BOff Seating, why not take the BoP approach, and go full Universal? Someone wants to wade in and deal damage with their pets? They can build that way. They want to do a support layout, with Heals, Buffs, and Debuffs? They can spec that way, too.
Going Uni means that however the player wants to kit out their ship, they will be able to kit it out that way. And they could take it the next step, too, by making all BOff stations Hybrid Universal Spec - you could go full Intel, full Command, full Pilot, or blend it however you wanted to.
My first thought... "Dear God, they'd charge sixty or seventy bucks just for one ship like that, minimum."
My second thought... "Overpowered would not even begin to describe it..."
"If you can't take a little bloody nose, maybe you ought to go back home and crawl under your bed. It's not safe out here. It's wondrous, with treasures to satiate desires both subtle and gross; but it's not for the timid." -- Q, TNG: "Q-Who?"
^Words that every player should keep in mind, especially whenever there's a problem with the game...
Just because the ship has 3 hangars visually has nothing to do with actualy getting 3 hangars. Look at the dreadnoughts. They have no visual hagar and yet they have 1 hanger.
Let's look at it a diffrent way. Let's suppose it's built like most carriers, sci heavy, with a uni or sci commander, and say 4 sci consoles. Outfit it as a sci torp boat, heavy on part/grav gens able to throw out a respectable GWIII. And now I have, not eight, but TWELVE Yellowstone, each /w TB III and radiation attacking and holding a target. That target will pop in no time. They won't do it. It's too OP.
now if I'm wrong, I will publicly admit it right here. But I'm telling you, won't happen.
All of the quads remind me of the Eclipse Intel Cruiser, but I have to say this hybridization of parts from both the Omega and the Epsilon is appealing. I didn't choose the Epsilon primarily because I thought the warp engines looked too big, making the ship appear smaller, but in this configuration the engine hull proportions are much more credible for a carrier. Throw in the flying bridge pod from the Alpha and we have a winner.
As you wish
And for the record this is ALL STILL Arc's property, not mine. NOT MINE.
Im just kit bashing for the heck of it and the people have spoken.
Slapping alpha's pod on there actually worked wonders for the aft view that was bothering me a bit.
I imagine the reason they didn't let us "design like Frankenstein" is that we'd need interaction with the artist, moving things around and trying different things. Especially to do that by community vote I could see being a nightmare.
Hopefully they'll see the positive response to the kitbashes though and model a few of the designs that are most compatible for kitbashing so we get some customization options on this puppy.
Also, is that a deflector on omega's nose or is that yet another opening to a hangar? On the underside there's a lit "slit" that could be a dauntless style deflector like the one we saw oh the pathfinder and manticore...
All of the quads remind me of the Eclipse Intel Cruiser, but I have to say this hybridization of parts from both the Omega and the Epsilon is appealing. I didn't choose the Epsilon primarily because I thought the warp engines looked too big, making the ship appear smaller, but in this configuration the engine hull proportions are much more credible for a carrier. Throw in the flying bridge pod from the Alpha and we have a winner.
As you wish
And for the record this is ALL STILL Arc's property, not mine. NOT MINE.
Im just kit bashing for the heck of it and the people have spoken.
Well, as is, I think this would make all parties happy, and to spice it more, make the nebula mission pod optional or a couple different mission pod looks ...I would happily accept this version of the ship..
All of the quads remind me of the Eclipse Intel Cruiser, but I have to say this hybridization of parts from both the Omega and the Epsilon is appealing. I didn't choose the Epsilon primarily because I thought the warp engines looked too big, making the ship appear smaller, but in this configuration the engine hull proportions are much more credible for a carrier. Throw in the flying bridge pod from the Alpha and we have a winner.
As you wish
And for the record this is ALL STILL Arc's property, not mine. NOT MINE.
Im just kit bashing for the heck of it and the people have spoken.
I've been quietly hoping they make a surprise revelation (eh, eh... get it? ) that we're getting all of the designs, to kitbash in whatever manner we wish. If not, though... I like this way more than any of the actual options. You'd get my vote if it were possible.
With each passing day I wonder if I stepped into an alternate reality. The Cubs win the world series. Donald Trump is President. Britain leaves the EU. STO gets a dedicated PvP season. Engineers are "out of control" in STO.
No way we get 3 hangars. The OP screaming would be deafening.
you know both designs have 3 hangers, right?
It doesn't matter how many visible hangars the ship has, which technically the large hangars on omega appear to be split into three doors behind the force fields, so we could say it has 6 on the sides or 3 through-and-through hangars with one on the nose.
Is it going to get more than two hangars just because it visually looks like it should? I highly doubt the devs plan to introduce a new super carrier class. So most likely just two. Unless all carriers are getting more hangars.
Even then, as someone said, more hangars would likely result in a loss of ship mounted weapons which would probably not go over too well. Especially after they nerfed pets as hard as they did.
The Nebula-configured Odyssey needs to be a thing.
Just had a bit of an idea for the BOff Layouts - hopefully this option can be considered, and implemented at least partially.
Rather than just focus on Tac, Eng, or Sci for the BOff Seating, why not take the BoP approach, and go full Universal? Someone wants to wade in and deal damage with their pets? They can build that way. They want to do a support layout, with Heals, Buffs, and Debuffs? They can spec that way, too.
Going Uni means that however the player wants to kit out their ship, they will be able to kit it out that way. And they could take it the next step, too, by making all BOff stations Hybrid Universal Spec - you could go full Intel, full Command, full Pilot, or blend it however you wanted to.
Any thoughts on this?
I think it would be wonderful, but I highly doubt that due to carriers being an established thing with mostly set seating. I don't think it would be "OP" it would just be really unfair to all those other poor ships that are stuck with static seating and easily solidify it as the best carrier in the game, so probably definitely no.
Hopefully the devs give us a reasonably versatile build where the ship isn't cripplingly overspecialized, or if it gets put to a vote in the "build" part of the competition, I hope we get some decent, balanced options and enough universal so that we don't all get screwed into flying the inevitable tac-beast I'm sure the vast majority of the playerbase would vote for should the devs make that one of the options.
As I believe I have said before, probably in a previous thread, I think seating like Lt.com tac, lt.com eng, lt.com sci, and a commander universal (based on the voquv with the lt.sci bumped to lt.com for t6) would be the absolute shoot for the moon best we could hope for in terms of getting a ship anyone could fly in their own style or switch it up as they please.
Alternatively, a lt.com tac, lt.com eng, commander sci, and either a single lt.com universal or lt. universal, ensign universal, would give a decent balance while also allowing a pretty decent amount of shifting things around to make it heavier where one wishes but keep the sci focus carriers used to be known for before lockbox ones came and shook things up.
The Nebula-configured Odyssey needs to be a thing.
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The hangar bays and every thing.. I love it!
Omega all the way
It would be cool to have both designs in the game with interchangeable parts, and possibly even the Epsilon nacelles for those who want a more compact look.
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I dare you to do better.
Now *THAT'S a Carrier!
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Well, as is, I think this would make all parties happy, and to spice it more, make the nebula mission pod optional or a couple different mission pod looks ...I would happily accept this version of the ship..
Make it so
Slapping alpha's pod on there actually worked wonders for the aft view that was bothering me a bit.
I imagine the reason they didn't let us "design like Frankenstein" is that we'd need interaction with the artist, moving things around and trying different things. Especially to do that by community vote I could see being a nightmare.
Hopefully they'll see the positive response to the kitbashes though and model a few of the designs that are most compatible for kitbashing so we get some customization options on this puppy.
Also, is that a deflector on omega's nose or is that yet another opening to a hangar? On the underside there's a lit "slit" that could be a dauntless style deflector like the one we saw oh the pathfinder and manticore...
The Nebula-configured Odyssey needs to be a thing.
my conspiracy theory mind is in overtime as well on this, I have too much Garibaldi in me to simply accept that we've had full control of this event, I mean the final 2 ships are alpha and omega...go figure....
Still, I really dislike the two different sizes of nacelles; that always bugs me. But I HATE, with a BURNING PURPLE PASSION, the hull that JUTS OUT THE BACK OF THE EPSILON!!!
That is by far the MOST IRRITATING thing of ANY of these ships (which, I am most pleased that none of the ones with that have won thus far). That was a mistake for the Command ships, and it's a mistake for any future ship, Period.
I wouldn't count my chickens before they hatch. Remember, this is the first True Fed carrier. I mean we've gotten others but they were all half assed. I'm sure you would agree. I bet cryptic goes all out with this baby. The last time we had a "build your ship promotion" we got the Odyssey. It wouldn't suprise me one bit to see 3 hanger bays and escorts as the pets.
Cryptic knows the pressure is on with this one. I say they go all out. (Fingers crossed anyways).
New Testament says "Thou shall be 3 beasts, one of the Land, Sea and Air and they will demand a sacrafice of 6000zen for the first few that come to worship. They shall be blessed and rewarded for thier loyalty and be given a vessel to command for each of the beast. Those who linger and withhold the offering but want the blessing must give a sacrafice of 9000zen. As is was with the Fathers so shall it be with the sons.
Hyefather has spoken.
^Words that every player should keep in mind, especially whenever there's a problem with the game...
I cannot even begin to explain the awesomeness of this. I like the symmetry of epsilons nacelles, but the omega body is so much more like a carrier. The combination of the two is a perfect ship. Even if epsilon nacelles on Omega was relegated to a mere customization option, this would induce me to purchase the ship.
Rather than just focus on Tac, Eng, or Sci for the BOff Seating, why not take the BoP approach, and go full Universal? Someone wants to wade in and deal damage with their pets? They can build that way. They want to do a support layout, with Heals, Buffs, and Debuffs? They can spec that way, too.
Going Uni means that however the player wants to kit out their ship, they will be able to kit it out that way. And they could take it the next step, too, by making all BOff stations Hybrid Universal Spec - you could go full Intel, full Command, full Pilot, or blend it however you wanted to.
Any thoughts on this?
My second thought... "Overpowered would not even begin to describe it..."
^Words that every player should keep in mind, especially whenever there's a problem with the game...
Let's look at it a diffrent way. Let's suppose it's built like most carriers, sci heavy, with a uni or sci commander, and say 4 sci consoles. Outfit it as a sci torp boat, heavy on part/grav gens able to throw out a respectable GWIII. And now I have, not eight, but TWELVE Yellowstone, each /w TB III and radiation attacking and holding a target. That target will pop in no time. They won't do it. It's too OP.
now if I'm wrong, I will publicly admit it right here. But I'm telling you, won't happen.
Beautiful, you are wonderful.
I've been quietly hoping they make a surprise revelation (eh, eh... get it?
It doesn't matter how many visible hangars the ship has, which technically the large hangars on omega appear to be split into three doors behind the force fields, so we could say it has 6 on the sides or 3 through-and-through hangars with one on the nose.
Is it going to get more than two hangars just because it visually looks like it should? I highly doubt the devs plan to introduce a new super carrier class. So most likely just two. Unless all carriers are getting more hangars.
Even then, as someone said, more hangars would likely result in a loss of ship mounted weapons which would probably not go over too well. Especially after they nerfed pets as hard as they did.
The Nebula-configured Odyssey needs to be a thing.
I think it would be wonderful, but I highly doubt that due to carriers being an established thing with mostly set seating. I don't think it would be "OP" it would just be really unfair to all those other poor ships that are stuck with static seating and easily solidify it as the best carrier in the game, so probably definitely no.
Hopefully the devs give us a reasonably versatile build where the ship isn't cripplingly overspecialized, or if it gets put to a vote in the "build" part of the competition, I hope we get some decent, balanced options and enough universal so that we don't all get screwed into flying the inevitable tac-beast I'm sure the vast majority of the playerbase would vote for should the devs make that one of the options.
As I believe I have said before, probably in a previous thread, I think seating like Lt.com tac, lt.com eng, lt.com sci, and a commander universal (based on the voquv with the lt.sci bumped to lt.com for t6) would be the absolute shoot for the moon best we could hope for in terms of getting a ship anyone could fly in their own style or switch it up as they please.
Alternatively, a lt.com tac, lt.com eng, commander sci, and either a single lt.com universal or lt. universal, ensign universal, would give a decent balance while also allowing a pretty decent amount of shifting things around to make it heavier where one wishes but keep the sci focus carriers used to be known for before lockbox ones came and shook things up.
The Nebula-configured Odyssey needs to be a thing.