Agree.. and the first thing you need to do wile dealing with clients and having a mistake, is assure them that is going to be deal with. And hiding under a rock is not way to deal with this.
I don't disagree. In this case, I'll extend the benefit of the doubt as Cryptic may be trying to determine what the exact cause is before posting about it.
I dont said they need to give us details, or how they are going to fix it.. we need to know that this is not intentional, and they are investigating the issue.
Hiding for more than 24hs under a rock is not good signal, and to me speacks that this was intentional or they dont give a dam about our complains and are more worrie with the Rock and Roll animation.
yeah damn stealth changes it was hard to gain lvl as it was what should we do now ..:( why always ppl who exploits turns out as winers?
How true? Looks like DEVS sent the wrong signal here....the exploiters got to 60...perhaps will be harder to specialize but still at 60. The majority of the community got TRIBBLE and more grinding till you bleed from your eyes :D:
You know, the Devs do have lives beyond STO. Expecting them to be on call 24/7 is a bit over the top. Just saying.
Its not like this issue wasnt raised the very moment the patch went live. And to top that off. Wednesday evening they waited hours after the Tau Dewa Lock to acknowledge it was intentional. Hours after everyone at Cryptic should have went home.
So enough with the apologist excuses. They ****ed up the game. And theyre going to bleed numbers if they keep this up.
Let's not let this post be lost, someone should verify his calculations because at first sight they seem correct to me, which means perhaps it was simply an arithmetic hiccup:
Any verification on this would indeed be appreciated. Lacking baseline XP scores to compare against all I can do is put out a theory.
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im a little pissed about this whole thing , i was progressing at a decent clip through the story every night till now i can barely able to get enough xp to progress any further . i realize they want the content to last but the way we progress now is not enjoyable at the least , you should experience the story at a good pace ,considering there isnt as much story than what we were led to believe, with a good portion of it being a patrol missions which alone dont give enough exp to to progress after you do the actual story mission .
sorry but this state of events has given me a sour taste for the state of the game .
8 or so of those 24 hours you're whining about are spent working. The rest is free time. Or should the Devs be at their desks 24/7 just to tweet you?
Man, you need only 10 minutes to write something like "we know there is a issue with the XP rate gain and the loss of specialitation points, we are working on a solution. Thanks"
Yes, we know. I'd rather they were working on any potential problem with this instead of deciding about what to write on the forums about it.
The devs who needs to be working to solve this issue, they should be working to solve this issue. The CM that are in charge of talking with us, should be talking with us.
Art devs dont make powers, system devs dont need to deal with the community, and community manergers dont work on fixing bugs.
Why don't you take a trip over to the Cryptic offices and show them how to do things perfectly 100% of the time as you clearly seem to never make any mistakes ever?
I do mistake, and when I make a mistake that affect my clients, I talk to them. If they need me there to know that you should respect your clients, then we are in a bigger problem that we all think.
Whining, pining, crying and foot stomping like angry, petulant children because Cryptic doesn't spend 24 hours of every day instantly notifying you of every little decision that goes on is borderline insanity IMO.
Every little decision??? What are you talking about??? This is not about the change of an animiation or what ever! This is about lossing stuff that ppl gain doing nothing wrong (spec points) and the fatc that the XP was nerfed by 70%!!! Is that to you "little" things?
This maybe be a bug, or intentional, I dont know.. but the more silent they are, the more gulty they look.
Now, if for you all this issues are little, good for, you may have a lot of time to play this game.
im a little pissed about this whole thing , i was progressing at a decent clip through the story every night till now i can barely able to get enough xp to progress any further . i realize they want the content to last but the way we progress now is not enjoyable at the least , you should experience the story at a good pace ,considering there isnt as much story than what we were led to believe, with a good portion of it being a patrol missions which alone dont give enough exp to to progress after you do the actual story mission .
sorry but this state of events has given me a sour taste for the state of the game .
I gave up playing last night trying to get from lvl 56 to lvl 57 I played 2 missions from the story arc and the xp rewarded barely scratched the surface. it was extremly disappointing.
As a silver member I can't do this (another problem) but could someone please go on Tribble and get the current and post-patch XP values from over there? The patch notes for Tribble are not addressing the problem but I do NOT know if that is because the issue is not addressed at all, or that the problem never was on Tribble and is therefore not evident to the Tribble devs.
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As a silver member I can't do this (another problem) but could someone please go on Tribble and get the current and post-patch XP values from over there? The patch notes for Tribble are not addressing the problem but I do NOT know if that is because the issue is not addressed at all, or that the problem never was on Tribble and is therefore not evident to the Tribble devs.
Silver members were only locked out of Tribble for the DR "Testing".
Silver members should be able to access Tribble now.
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Considering I only just spent a large amount of money on the delta rising pack, I am disapointed in this mistake and I have stopped playing STO. Doing storyline missions and not being able to Level up is crazy.
Everytime I feel confident in this game and willing to invest time and money it seems a let down. I am sure that in any project management there can be a risk of mistake but proccesses should be put in place for Q.A.
IF I can get on after work I will try Tribble access again, but I have some family obligations and probably will not make it before end of business PDT. If anyone can get on and get these numbers sooner, that will be awesome. Otherwise I will see if I can do anything tonight.
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I am holding off logging in on Holodeck because I have a large number of episodes both in DR, and in other content on my main (Wasteland and Solanae) and I want to get that first-run XP when it will really count.
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Wait... isn't that supposed to be the HP of the enemies being reduced?
The Patch notes say that enemies below your level reward less XP. But all?
I went to all areas with my 50 player and my 80 lvl player game bones its a lie , don't believe everything the Devs post they put answers and questions we want in here but do nothing about about how low they can make EC'S/XP after adding a exploit they did that us they think we did it other than play to level up ? there Sane sure belief em ? all will be fine after they did the mistake in the first place and now make all us pay for there mistake is smart business .... not.
goodluck all i say BAN TREK take em off the luxurious employee vacations for the next decade.. don't complain you all get 20 lobo hahaha
From Tribble thread on latest patch on test server...
"Many of the XP changes that were put on to Holodeck yesterday are not reflected in the current Tribble build but they will match when Tribble is updated next." - coldsnapped, Cryptic Studios Team
So that would imply that the xp adjustments is not a bug but intended to fix an error in the xp table that was missed when the expan went live.
normal xp got a boost... advance and elite xp was not inline with the values cryptic wants and is now working as intended.
Just for some clarification for those who are asking about the XP changes when it comes to XP earned when fighting Elite NPCs.
The patchnotes for Holodeck mentions the values were incorrect and this refers to the values that changed with the Delta Rising launch itself. To break it down:
Prior to the release of Delta Rising: Players earned 1.75 times the XP value for Elite NPCs when compared to Normal NPCs.
With the launch of Delta Rising: Players earned 5 times the XP value for Elite NPCs when compared to Normal NPCs.
This was the incorrect value the release notes mention and is the reason for the change made on 10/23.
With the update to Holodeck on 10/23: Players now earn 2 times the XP value for Elite NPCs when compared to Normal NPCs.
Currently, Tribble will have the incorrect value of 5 times the XP value for Elite NPCs when compared to Normal NPCs which will be updated on the next path to Tribble.
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Agree.. and the first thing you need to do wile dealing with clients and having a mistake, is assure them that is going to be deal with. And hiding under a rock is not way to deal with this.
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sorry this mad me spit coffee all over my screen!
Most every bug/issue IS found in testing. They simply ignore any feedback.
It's never stopped them before.
I dont said they need to give us details, or how they are going to fix it.. we need to know that this is not intentional, and they are investigating the issue.
Hiding for more than 24hs under a rock is not good signal, and to me speacks that this was intentional or they dont give a dam about our complains and are more worrie with the Rock and Roll animation.
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WHAT?????????????????????????????????????
Is not sunday you know? Or even saturday for that matter! Man, you really love them so mach?
We are at the cryptic offices working hour!
My god, I have reed some defenses to cryptic, but that one won the "worst one" prize.
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How true? Looks like DEVS sent the wrong signal here....the exploiters got to 60...perhaps will be harder to specialize but still at 60. The majority of the community got TRIBBLE and more grinding till you bleed from your eyes
Its not like this issue wasnt raised the very moment the patch went live. And to top that off. Wednesday evening they waited hours after the Tau Dewa Lock to acknowledge it was intentional. Hours after everyone at Cryptic should have went home.
So enough with the apologist excuses. They ****ed up the game. And theyre going to bleed numbers if they keep this up.
Any verification on this would indeed be appreciated. Lacking baseline XP scores to compare against all I can do is put out a theory.
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The worst thing, is that are some players giving the excuses, not the ones who are responsable.
Mast be hard to be a loyal cryptic fan and know that there is something wrong and still give low excuses like that one.
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sorry but this state of events has given me a sour taste for the state of the game .
Man, you need only 10 minutes to write something like "we know there is a issue with the XP rate gain and the loss of specialitation points, we are working on a solution. Thanks"
The devs who needs to be working to solve this issue, they should be working to solve this issue. The CM that are in charge of talking with us, should be talking with us.
Art devs dont make powers, system devs dont need to deal with the community, and community manergers dont work on fixing bugs.
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I do mistake, and when I make a mistake that affect my clients, I talk to them. If they need me there to know that you should respect your clients, then we are in a bigger problem that we all think.
Every little decision??? What are you talking about??? This is not about the change of an animiation or what ever! This is about lossing stuff that ppl gain doing nothing wrong (spec points) and the fatc that the XP was nerfed by 70%!!! Is that to you "little" things?
This maybe be a bug, or intentional, I dont know.. but the more silent they are, the more gulty they look.
Now, if for you all this issues are little, good for, you may have a lot of time to play this game.
You dont like my whine, dont reed me.. But I am a client that loss stuff and want answerds.
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Finally we agree, cryptic does not respect the clients. That much is clear.
And if I dont want?
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I gave up playing last night trying to get from lvl 56 to lvl 57 I played 2 missions from the story arc and the xp rewarded barely scratched the surface. it was extremly disappointing.
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Silver members were only locked out of Tribble for the DR "Testing".
Silver members should be able to access Tribble now.
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Everytime I feel confident in this game and willing to invest time and money it seems a let down. I am sure that in any project management there can be a risk of mistake but proccesses should be put in place for Q.A.
I hope this matter is resolved soon.
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goodluck all i say BAN TREK take em off the luxurious employee vacations for the next decade.. don't complain you all get 20 lobo hahaha
"Many of the XP changes that were put on to Holodeck yesterday are not reflected in the current Tribble build but they will match when Tribble is updated next." - coldsnapped, Cryptic Studios Team
So that would imply that the xp adjustments is not a bug but intended to fix an error in the xp table that was missed when the expan went live.
normal xp got a boost... advance and elite xp was not inline with the values cryptic wants and is now working as intended.