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XP reduced by 70% on all kills after patch

mattjohnsonvamattjohnsonva Member Posts: 4,974 Arc User
edited October 2014 in Star Trek Online General Discussion
I was under the impression that XP was being increased, not reduced? All kills in game now give between 60 and 70% less XP, should slow down levelling a bit!
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  • catjarrettcatjarrett Member Posts: 285 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    I thought it said in the patch that it was all being reduced due to the NPC level fixing and nerfing?

    Someone did post about the Elite XP not being right, but here's for the rest.
    The Skill Points and Expertise rewarded for defeating NPCs below the player’s current level have been updated.
    They now correctly scale starting at one level below the player.
    Defeating NPCs that are 5 levels below you now properly award far less skill points and expertise to prevent exploitative gameplay.

    Does that address what you were talking about?
  • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 58,547 Community Moderator
    edited October 2014
    Wait... isn't that supposed to be the HP of the enemies being reduced?

    The Patch notes say that enemies below your level reward less XP. But all?
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  • warpetwarpet Member Posts: 506 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    yeah damn stealth changes :( it was hard to gain lvl as it was what should we do now ..:( why always ppl who exploits turns out as winers?
  • jonnescoutsjonnescouts Member Posts: 31 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    It is always worth mentioning, that the patch mentioned a buff to the xp, rather than a reduction, and if this is "working as intended" it is going to make leveling incredibly hard for everyone.
  • trelane87trelane87 Member Posts: 242 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    Oh great, more nerfs *warms up the popcorn maker* :rolleyes:
  • bobtheskull99bobtheskull99 Member Posts: 706 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    I did notice a slight increase to xp after the patch so..........hysterical much?
  • warpetwarpet Member Posts: 506 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    rattler2 wrote: »
    Wait... isn't that supposed to be the HP of the enemies being reduced?

    The Patch notes say that enemies below your level reward less XP. But all?

    im playing game on elite and ship kills which used to give me 1.2k now gives 378,and i did not noticed any hp reduction
  • castiuscastius Member Posts: 39 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    trelane87 wrote: »
    Oh great, more nerfs *warms up the popcorn maker* :rolleyes:

    you have to warm up your microwave? xD
  • architect13architect13 Member Posts: 1,076 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    trelane87 wrote: »
    Oh great, more nerfs *warms up the popcorn maker* :rolleyes:

    Gets Pitchfork [Extra Pointy] x4 . . .
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  • lucho80lucho80 Member Posts: 6,600 Bug Hunter
    edited October 2014
    warpet wrote: »
    What should we do now ..:(

    Step 1 - Grab 8472 ground set

    Step 2 - Starship Troopers Elite
  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    edit: Meh, never mind - I read that wrong - was replying to the bottom part as if it were the top. But 60 vs. 60 at Elite is giving ~33% the XP if that. The Elite mobs had their shields reduced but hulls buffed...wouldn't necessarily qualify as a nerf, rather a change to give the casual player the image that they were getting somewhere since they obviously don't understand bleed.
  • trelane87trelane87 Member Posts: 242 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    castius wrote: »
    you have to warm up your microwave? xD

    Microwave isn't enough... getting out the movie theater style popcorn maker :D
  • catjarrettcatjarrett Member Posts: 285 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    virusdancer wrote: »
    Nah, 60 vs. 60...XP is all...where did it go? Meh...

    Nah dang, sorry. There's a thread in the Bug forum about the Elite XP not calculating correctly. Maybe check that out?
  • johndroidjohndroid Member Posts: 178 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    mattjohnsonva wrote: »
    I was under the impression that XP was being increased, not reduced? All kills in game now give between 60 and 70% less XP, should slow down levelling a bit!

    Also i did beta thoridor i got 2 drops thats like 80% less there killing the grind for ENERGY Credits earned as well as the Xp there boning game up bad who wants to grind for 5 days pray for upgrade and get less than 400k to spend on exchange , great idea kill the exchange as well its hopeless This Guy running the numbers for drops and xp should be shot and gutted for the klingons happy happy joy joy party , thanks whoever is behind the scene thats killing game , please die before game does :This update will set the skill point earn rate to 2.0x normal.
    Prior to Delta Rising the earn rate was 1.75x normal. LIES LIES LIES
  • goth665goth665 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    Thanks to the 25% XP buff I'll spend 25% more money on the game now, thanks.
    PS: Since 25% more means 1/5th of before ill just reduce my payments to 0 to buff it even more.
  • dichtbringerdichtbringer Member Posts: 120 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    Can confirm. If you went solo in eg Argala Patrol, which had Level 60 mobs all along one Battleship kill would give you 1,3k XP. Now it is about 450 for me, when the patch said that it should be actually MORE. Such a joke, if Cryptic would care at all the servers would be long down again for fixing.

    My Theory: "Levels below you" includes spec levels, so the more spec points you get the less xp. I'll have to level up to next spec level first though to confirm this.
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  • smokeybacon90smokeybacon90 Member Posts: 2,252 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    dichtbringer wrote: »
    My Theory: "Levels below you" includes spec levels, so the more spec points you get the less xp. I'll have to level up to next spec level first though to confirm this.

    That's what I thought but people are earning the same amount of exp in Argala whether they are above 60 or below.
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  • gavinrunebladegavinruneblade Member Posts: 3,894 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    dichtbringer wrote: »
    Can confirm. If you went solo in eg Argala Patrol, which had Level 60 mobs all along one Battleship kill would give you 1,3k XP. Now it is about 450 for me, when the patch said that it should be actually MORE. Such a joke, if Cryptic would care at all the servers would be long down again for fixing.

    My Theory: "Levels below you" includes spec levels, so the more spec points you get the less xp. I'll have to level up to next spec level first though to confirm this.

    If you can confirm this, please post it in the bug forum, not just here where it'll probably be ignored. Not that it'll necessarily be treated right in the bug forum, but at least its worth a shot.
  • captainobvious09captainobvious09 Member Posts: 182 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    mattjohnsonva wrote: »
    I was under the impression that XP was being increased, not reduced? All kills in game now give between 60 and 70% less XP, should slow down levelling a bit!

    When they first posted the patch notes yesterday, they said they would raise XP to 2.0x of what it is now, when I looked at the patch notes today, that part was removed. So in effect they lied to calm things down a bit.

    I just don't care anymore, I was having fun, but now its just annoying how bad the XP is.

    ..
  • warpetwarpet Member Posts: 506 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    dichtbringer wrote: »
    Can confirm. If you went solo in eg Argala Patrol, which had Level 60 mobs all along one Battleship kill would give you 1,3k XP. Now it is about 450 for me, when the patch said that it should be actually MORE. Such a joke, if Cryptic would care at all the servers would be long down again for fixing.

    My Theory: "Levels below you" includes spec levels, so the more spec points you get the less xp. I'll have to level up to next spec level first though to confirm this.

    im lvl 58 and still get a lot less xp for doing elite patrols,misions so it is bug or stealth nerf
  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    captainobvious09 wrote: »
    When they first posted the patch notes yesterday, they said they would raise XP to 2.0x of what it is now, when I looked at the patch notes today, that part was removed. So in effect they lied to calm things down a bit.

    I just don't care anymore, I was having fun, but now its just annoying how bad the XP is.

    ..

    It's still there both in the Arc copy and forum copy of the release notes.
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  • warpetwarpet Member Posts: 506 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    mattjohnsonva wrote: »
    We've got guys running patrols in Argala atm, it doesn't seem to matter what level you're at, it's been nerfed across the board :(

    not only this they killed skillpoints rewards in stfs to only player who last hit gets skillpoints and rewards per kill are 1/3 of what it used to be before this last update
  • jgbr00jgbr00 Member Posts: 17 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    Helllo

    After enjoying Delta rising for a week, I was really engaged with STO and enjoyed being back in the game so much more. I felt that it had been balanced and developed to have a good story line and fair skills/expereince system that really made me feel I wanted to spend time in the 'STO Verse'.

    The recent changes or bug in the expereince/skills awarded for acheiving various missions and destructions of enemies made it a rather painful evening. I felt very exhausted at the end of a patrol. (I am an experienced veteran player with a effective and efficent skill set/starship).

    An entire run in Argarla system resulted in me barely clocking up 1500 skill points.(In a team Elite and single on Elite) I was being awarded somewhere between 40-120 skills points. Frankly it was painful to the point I may suspend my time in the game untill the bug is corrected or this matter is looked into.


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  • kerriknightkerriknight Member Posts: 274
    edited October 2014
    warpet wrote: »
    not only this they killed skillpoints rewards in stfs to only player who last hit gets skillpoints and rewards per kill are 1/3 of what it used to be before this last update

    Can anyone reproduce/confirm this?

    Also, is the xp per kill issue just happening with elite or is it across the board?
  • dichtbringerdichtbringer Member Posts: 120 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    JAPORI TEST RESULTS:

    Battleship Mob on Solo Elite: ~400xp
    Battleship Mob on Solo Normal: ~200xp

    Normal clear time is approx 5-10 times faster than Elite, so running it normal is clearly superior at this time.

    Normal 5man total xp reward: ~2000-2500 xp

    So you would need 20-30 runs for a full spec level.

    Clear Time on Normal is around 2 minutes, so it will take about an hour. Much worse than before.
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    S07: KASE: 12:54 | CSE: 13:20 | ISE: 12:38 All held personally, my POV
    LOR: KASE: 13:19 | CSE: 13:47 | ISE: 13:34 None held personally, other player's POV
    S08: coming soon
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    edited October 2014
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  • ussinterceptussintercept Member Posts: 627 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    rattler2 wrote: »
    Wait... isn't that supposed to be the HP of the enemies being reduced?

    The Patch notes say that enemies below your level reward less XP. But all?

    I havent faced any enemies below my level beyond 1-2 levels. Since the game auto scales Mobs to my level.
  • nikephorusnikephorus Member Posts: 2,744 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    I just soloed Japori and also noticed a large drop in xp. At the same time the enemies in there definitely had their hit points buffed up. Little bit off topic - What I find really disappointing about the enemies is that they aren't any smarter and are still not really much of a threat... they just take FOREVER to kill. :(
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  • icsairgunsicsairguns Member Posts: 1,504 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    i ran agarola or what ever its called 15 times after patch and 3 times just prior to patch to make notes of xp given.

    Normal mode is giving out slightly more khazon cruiser prior 234 after 290

    advanced mode cruiser prior 859 after 437


    elite carrier prior 1300 after 475


    something is up with the number before the patch and even worse now .


    i got those values doing solo content as a team it is to hard to keep the values to one target simply because it keeps just adding to the total if you chain kills. and thats the big numbers many players are seeing and happy with. they jsut dont know any better.

    hell tau dewa was still shut down this morning and people were stll spamming for teams there. we who read the forums are a few.

    and a solo run on normal now takes 5 min elite 35 min. i do better to run normal 5 times with breaks inbetween than doing one elite mission
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