ohh and i forgot to mention all the fighting we are supposed to do that gives no xp at all other than the 1k the patrol itself gives. those being any ship that is disabled not destroyed gives no xp. that includes the khazon leaders ship in argola. over a million hp to give no rewards what so ever.
Trophies for killing FEDS ahh those were the days.
I think you must be mistaken. Everyone that has ran any event this evening in our fleet, and so far that's about 20 of us have all reported the exact same thing as well as everyone else in this thread. What XP are you getting, for which ship?
500 skill points (adjusted since i am lvl 60, i had to add the skill point and specialisation together) for a enemy mogai in the carrayna system i believe" this is the same as i got 3 days ago on elite in the same system.
Please note, this is me doing it solo. Might be wrong but it is the same as a couple of days ago.
i ran agarola or what ever its called 15 times after patch and 3 times just prior to patch to make notes of xp given.
Normal mode is giving out slightly more khazon cruiser prior 234 after 290
advanced mode cruiser prior 859 after 437
elite carrier prior 1300 after 475
something is up with the number before the patch and even worse now .
i got those values doing solo content as a team it is to hard to keep the values to one target simply because it keeps just adding to the total if you chain kills. and thats the big numbers many players are seeing and happy with. they jsut dont know any better.
hell tau dewa was still shut down this morning and people were stll spamming for teams there. we who read the forums are a few.
and a solo run on normal now takes 5 min elite 35 min. i do better to run normal 5 times with breaks inbetween than doing one elite mission
So basically if your gonna grind patrols, do normal cause it just isnt worth it anymore to do advance or elite. nice nerf.
I think you must be mistaken. Everyone that has ran any event this evening in our fleet, and so far that's about 20 of us have all reported the exact same thing as well as everyone else in this thread. What XP are you getting, for which ship?
so good of you to post that i have been staring at the screen for past 8 min trying to figure out how to say what you said without getting another warning from a FmoD. no way i could have been so polite.
Trophies for killing FEDS ahh those were the days.
This stealth nerf means I will not be playing any more content until this is fixed along with the reduced DL rewards since the launch of DR. I will however login to get my 60 free Lobi but that is all.
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Could you please test to see how close your figure comes to exactly the loss stated at the end of that?
That is not to say for sure that it IS an answer or that I have fully accounted for all variables. But that is awfully close to the results you are reporting.
It would be a massively incompetent error but it may well be this is the cause of what you have observed and if so Cryptic needs to do an emergency maintenance shutdown FAST.
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We also need exact values before and after to determine where the error is if, as I suspect, it is a math error in the equation governing the output of XP as related to skill points.
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so now there isn't a reliable source of decent XP in this game. that is just wonderful. i'm seriously considering putting the game away until this got fixed.
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RnD and upgrade needs less RNG. Less lottery. Something has to change.
If you can confirm this, please post it in the bug forum, not just here where it'll probably be ignored. Not that it'll necessarily be treated right in the bug forum, but at least its worth a shot.
Somehow, I'm pretty sure it will be fixed much slowly than the tau dewa "exploit".
Is a lie~ you kill borg~ kill all borg for leveling, you get dil and marks from borg, you level item.
This, is the goal, of narrheehaw It's mission, to destroy new worlds and civilizations
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] And to boldly ruin, what no one has ruined before.
i gain about 3 times more XP now form doffing then actually playing the game this has KILLED my alts as i do not want to grind for a freaking YEAR just to play the new missions
and now i am reaffirmed why i NEVER wanted the level cap increased.
you kill borg to get level 60, you get items and marks!
This, is the goal, of narrheehaw It's mission, to destroy new worlds and civilizations
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] And to boldly ruin, what no one has ruined before.
I'm doing old patrols throughout the game on Advanced.
(about halfway through Level 55 using my T-6 Eclipse)
I'm mostly getting between 50 to 130 XP for individual assorted enemy.
I'm getting 945 xps for each mission I finish also.
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No, that part was not a bug, but was mentioned in patch notes.
No it was not. In fact, it said that the EXACT OPPOSITE was true. Argala was correctly scaling from DR launch and so you are ALWAYS fighting mobs that are exactly your level, so there should be no decrease in XP. And the patchnotes even said that you should get MORE XP for killing mobs the same level as you.
Just tested Argala system patrol on Elite. Prior to the patch, I was getting ~1750 XP per kill. Now.... 548 XP.
Certainly hope this is a bug.
nope, working as intened.
You now get 2-2,3 times more xp then on normal when running elite while taking 5 times more time.
We are back where we started with elite difficulty, aka being a waste of time. In the same time you can can kill 5 times the amount of normal ship and get 2,5 times the xp.
Sorry to tell you but normal got the xp reduced also. I just ran the patrol and noticed a big difference.
Sorry i just know by how much my xp bar goes up. Before patch i ran the patrol with 3/4 full and got a lvl. I did the same thing and i didn't come close to leveling.
No it was not. In fact, it said that the EXACT OPPOSITE was true. Argala was correctly scaling from DR launch and so you are ALWAYS fighting mobs that are exactly your level, so there should be no decrease in XP. And the patchnotes even said that you should get MORE XP for killing mobs the same level as you.
I haven't logged in since I realized Cryptic robbed me of 300,000 skill points, so I can't confirm what you're saying. But from what I read in the patch notes, it seemed to me that a stiff reduction in XP received was intended.
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500 skill points (adjusted since i am lvl 60, i had to add the skill point and specialisation together) for a enemy mogai in the carrayna system i believe" this is the same as i got 3 days ago on elite in the same system.
Please note, this is me doing it solo. Might be wrong but it is the same as a couple of days ago.
"Shrugs" so i am nit sure what is going on there
So basically if your gonna grind patrols, do normal cause it just isnt worth it anymore to do advance or elite. nice nerf.
so good of you to post that i have been staring at the screen for past 8 min trying to figure out how to say what you said without getting another warning from a FmoD. no way i could have been so polite.
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Could you please test to see how close your figure comes to exactly the loss stated at the end of that?
That is not to say for sure that it IS an answer or that I have fully accounted for all variables. But that is awfully close to the results you are reporting.
It would be a massively incompetent error but it may well be this is the cause of what you have observed and if so Cryptic needs to do an emergency maintenance shutdown FAST.
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Sorry to tell you but normal got the xp reduced also. I just ran the patrol and noticed a big difference.
It's like an incompetence snowball. It was the size of a bus yesterday, today it's the size of a two-story home...
Can you list the values?
"A big difference" isn't very concrete.
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RnD and upgrade needs less RNG. Less lottery. Something has to change.
I've seen that rig flash fry a building. Be careful
It's mission, to destroy new worlds and civilizations
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
And to boldly ruin, what no one has ruined before.
and now i am reaffirmed why i NEVER wanted the level cap increased.
It's mission, to destroy new worlds and civilizations
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
And to boldly ruin, what no one has ruined before.
i really hope you get paid for this trolling of yours...
RnD and upgrade needs less RNG. Less lottery. Something has to change.
(about halfway through Level 55 using my T-6 Eclipse)
I'm mostly getting between 50 to 130 XP for individual assorted enemy.
I'm getting 945 xps for each mission I finish also.
Not sure if this helps any.
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Jem ha'dar Battleship = 474 xps
JH Attack Bug & Cardassian Hideki = 69-72 xps
Keldon = 479 xps
Galor = 360
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No, that part was not a bug, but was mentioned in patch notes.
No it was not. In fact, it said that the EXACT OPPOSITE was true. Argala was correctly scaling from DR launch and so you are ALWAYS fighting mobs that are exactly your level, so there should be no decrease in XP. And the patchnotes even said that you should get MORE XP for killing mobs the same level as you.
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nope, working as intened.
You now get 2-2,3 times more xp then on normal when running elite while taking 5 times more time.
We are back where we started with elite difficulty, aka being a waste of time. In the same time you can can kill 5 times the amount of normal ship and get 2,5 times the xp.
Sorry i just know by how much my xp bar goes up. Before patch i ran the patrol with 3/4 full and got a lvl. I did the same thing and i didn't come close to leveling.
I haven't logged in since I realized Cryptic robbed me of 300,000 skill points, so I can't confirm what you're saying. But from what I read in the patch notes, it seemed to me that a stiff reduction in XP received was intended.
Let's hope you're right, though.