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  • angrybobhangrybobh Member Posts: 420 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    It's probally an attempt to actually get people to log into the game again lol.

    I pretty much stopped doffing after they screwed it up where it takes about 5 mins per character for doff assignments to complete and then stopped doing daily crafting stuff after news of X2 lol.

    This event really isn't worth me taking the time to login tho lol.

    Exactly what I thought/how I feel.
  • christianmacchristianmac Member Posts: 359 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    psyloaf wrote: »
    You'll also be able to use the upgrade system, up to level XIII UV quality

    Thus my sole focus is uprading until the 14th.
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  • trek21trek21 Member Posts: 2,246 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    Having it early won't soften the blow much, it's still going to be one huge dil sink. They aren't giving any free dil so the worst part still stands.
    But with the upcoming Specialization, if you get all the abilities, any further Specialization points are automatically converted to Dil Ore - free by all means via technical level-up, after a time

    And besides, the higher the tech upgrade, the less Dil you would have to pay. Higher quality and higher mark items will still be fairly expensive, of course, as is the idea
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  • drreverenddrreverend Member Posts: 459 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    trek21 wrote: »
    But with the upcoming Specialization, if you get all the abilities, any further Specialization points are automatically converted to Dil Ore - free by all means via technical level-up, after a time

    And besides, the higher the tech upgrade, the less Dil you would have to pay. Higher quality and higher mark items will still be fairly expensive, of course, as is the idea

    Of course, filling all those specialization points will take some time, as at start? You need 60 to hit the point where all future points earned are just dil.
  • orangeitisorangeitis Member Posts: 5,222 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    senseiark wrote: »
    will the crafting system be the only way that we are to upgrade our gear? or will there be another way cuz i havent invested in the other R&D school i wanted yet...
    Everything from R&D is completely tradable, so you can get non-event upgrade modules from those that have already invested in R&D. =)
  • breadandcircusesbreadandcircuses Member Posts: 2,355 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    Having it early won't soften the blow much, it's still going to be one huge dil sink. They aren't giving any free dil so the worst part still stands.

    Noticed that, did you? Still, free stuff is free... I'm sure I'll use them eventually anyway if I decide the Upgrade system and Captain Specialization are worth the grind. My poor alts. :P

    It's a pain in the aft, but now I have to figure which character will actually be my main...
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  • trek21trek21 Member Posts: 2,246 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    drreverend wrote: »
    Of course, filling all those specialization points will take some time, as at start? You need 60 to hit the point where all future points earned are just dil.
    Well yes, it will take time; lvls 50 to 60 will fill the first 10 Specialization, but the Skill Point bar will still fill up after lvl 60 - giving us a Specialization Point every time we fill it, even as we stay lvl 60 the entire time.

    Then, after filling up all Specialization abilities in the trees, any further ones are converted to Dil Ore - even after new trees are added, and those are filled up too
    Was named Trek17.

    Been playing STO since Open Beta, and have never regarded anything as worse than 'meh', if only due to personal standards.
  • questeriusquesterius Member Posts: 8,476 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    Just wondering.. if i upgrade the breen space set to mk xii or xiii/xiv, will i be able to claim the xi version again from the mission rewards?
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  • atomictikiatomictiki Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    trek21 wrote: »
    Well yes, it will take time; lvls 50 to 60 will fill the first 10 Specialization, but the Skill Point bar will still fill up after lvl 60 - giving us a Specialization Point every time we fill it, even as we stay lvl 60 the entire time.

    Then, after filling up all Specialization abilities in the trees, any further ones are converted to Dil Ore - even after new trees are added, and those are filled up too

    The one flaw in your argument is the amount of dilithium granted. There is no chance in gre'thor that it will be appreciable amount to make people dance and sing: 1K+. It will probably be the lower amounts 240 or 480.
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  • jkirk13jkirk13 Member Posts: 63 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    My question is since they are allowing us to Upgrade items to MK XIII, will they include the feature the will allow use to use item sets powers no matter the MK of the gear? It seems kinda pointless to upgrade anything from sets untill that is in.
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  • trek21trek21 Member Posts: 2,246 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    atomictiki wrote: »
    The one flaw in your argument is the amount of dilithium granted. There is no chance in gre'thor that it will be appreciable amount to make people dance and sing: 1K+. It will probably be the lower amounts 240 or 480.
    It's still a nice freebie, regardless of the amount given.
    Was named Trek17.

    Been playing STO since Open Beta, and have never regarded anything as worse than 'meh', if only due to personal standards.
  • sheldonlcoopersheldonlcooper Member Posts: 4,042 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    Sweet mamajama. Time to get to work!
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  • saedeithsaedeith Member Posts: 628 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    Sweet mamajama. Time to get to work!

    Work pretty much sums up this system.
  • trelane87trelane87 Member Posts: 242 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    Meh from what I've observed on tribble I'd say hold off on upgrading anything til X2 hits... especially items that are already UR since you'll miss an opportunity for a quality boost to epic. Also it doesn't help that a lot of the items I want to upgrade still can't be upgraded yet.. nausicaan swords, romulan hypertorpedo, etc.

    Also as generous as the freebies are they'll barely be enough to upgrade one item, this system will require hundreds of the kits and not to mention mountains of dilithium that I still feel will turn off a lot of casual players :rolleyes:
  • damix4damix4 Member Posts: 609 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    Thank you for this event.
    jkirk13 wrote: »
    "...will they include the feature the will allow use to use item sets powers no matter the MK of the gear?"
    Yes, set powers will work. Borticus explained it in this post.
  • sennahcheribsennahcherib Member Posts: 2,823 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    Naturally, upgrading your best endgame gear will be most effective if you use the best Tech Upgrades, so keep working on your R&D schools. Level 5 in an R&D school will allow you to craft Basic Tech Upgrades, level 10 will open access to Improved Tech Upgrades, and level 15 grants the ability to craft Superior Tech Upgrades. Focus on the school associated with the gear that you want to upgrade first – if you really want to improve your ship’s shields, work on your Shields R&D skill.

    level 0 for 5 of my 6 toons; this will be funny.
    Level 5 in an R&D school will allow you to craft Basic Tech Upgrades

    level 0 in a R&D school will allow you to craft ?
  • tarastheslayertarastheslayer Member Posts: 1,541 Bug Hunter
    edited September 2014
    trelane87 wrote: »
    Meh from what I've observed on tribble I'd say hold off on upgrading anything til X2 hits... especially items that are already UR since you'll miss an opportunity for a quality boost to epic. Also it doesn't help that a lot of the items I want to upgrade still can't be upgraded yet.. nausicaan swords, romulan hypertorpedo, etc.

    Also as generous as the freebies are they'll barely be enough to upgrade one item, this system will require hundreds of the kits and not to mention mountains of dilithium that I still feel will turn off a lot of casual players :rolleyes:

    Pretty much this, anyone thinking of using this system needs to look at the feedback forum for it and see the maths on how unfriendly it is.
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  • lordmalak1lordmalak1 Member Posts: 4,681 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    Heh, thats pretty cool how the blog shows a Breen set item thats been upgraded- and no longer part of the set.
    :cool:

    I can see hundreds of thousands of dilith poured into this just to upgrade a complete set. Smells like an epic dilithium syphon but wth- gimme free stuff anyway.
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  • ursusmorologusursusmorologus Member Posts: 5,328 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    giving away the stuff you need to spend your dilithium... very generous
  • tigerariestigeraries Member Posts: 3,492 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    questerius wrote: »
    Just wondering.. if i upgrade the breen space set to mk xii or xiii/xiv, will i be able to claim the xi version again from the mission rewards?

    yes you can but your still limited to max equip of 1 per ship.

    you can claim more than 1 set right now, just need to equip them on different ships.
  • saedeithsaedeith Member Posts: 628 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    giving away the stuff you need to spend your dilithium... very generous

    Might as well come out of the gate blazing.

    Gimme your dilithium and open yer wallets.
  • rodentmasterrodentmaster Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    trelane87 wrote: »
    Also as generous as the freebies are they'll barely be enough to upgrade one item, this system will require hundreds of the kits and not to mention mountains of dilithium that I still feel will turn off a lot of casual players :rolleyes:


    ^^ This. So much this.

    They need to drastically reduce the amount of pay2win that is intertwined with this upgrade grind system.
  • schneemann83schneemann83 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    Guess you can't start early enough to milk people dry. :rolleyes:
  • quepanquepan Member Posts: 540 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    how random is it going to be to acquire the needed components to construct this stuff ,

    the whole crafting system reminds me of the old stf drop system , cuz ive been playing content all over the board and there are alot of components i havent yet seen to build any of the components to do any actual construction of any gear in the R&D system .
    Feels like we are back to the old STF way of who ever is lucky to get x drop to get x gear rather than equal chance to get gear yourself .
    i would love to be a crafter but not lucky enough to get the components needed. and the cost of these simple components is not worth the EC in the exchange in the long run .

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  • rinksterrinkster Member Posts: 3,549 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    A nice headstart.

    Looking forward to tinkering with this.
  • jkirk13jkirk13 Member Posts: 63 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    damix4 wrote: »
    Thank you for this event.


    Yes, set powers will work. Borticus explained it in this post.


    I knew that. I'm wondering if they are turning it on on Holodeck Thursday or forget about it.
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  • robeasomrobeasom Member Posts: 1,911 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    Like how there starting this early but are the bugs sorted out yet?
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  • saedeithsaedeith Member Posts: 628 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    What are the odds of having a dilithium event before DR to try and give us dilith poor folks a head start on this dilithium sink?
  • lordmalak1lordmalak1 Member Posts: 4,681 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    damix4 wrote: »
    Thank you for this event.


    Yes, set powers will work. Borticus explained it in this post.
    Unfortunately, there's no feasible way for us to allow the set bonuses to increase with the mark of the gear that is granting that bonus, while still allowing them to work across marks/qualities.

    Said another way... Set bonuses will now work even if you're wearing a Mk 12 VR piece, a Mk 13 UR piece and a Mk 14 Epic piece -- you'll still get the 3 piece bonus from a set comprised of those pieces with disparate qualities and mark levels.

    But the same tech that allows that to happen, prevents us from allowing those set bonuses to scale.

    That said, I believe that some may scale with the player's level, as they advance from 50-60. I'm not in a position to verify or refute that at the moment, though (not currently in the office).

    Ahhhh, so whats the verdict on level scaling ? What sets/pieces are level capped and which aren't, any news ?
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  • szimszim Member Posts: 2,503 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    Be careful with what you upgrade. I remember one or two weeks back upgrading a mk XII TR-116 rifle on Tribble downgraded it to mk X. Not sure if this bug has been corrected yet.
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