I have been sitting here thinking about this, I have a solution Cryptic...
You want us all to pay for ship upgrades, clearly that is your desire. I will do so, if you make it a true upgrade. T6 Ships. Period. No T5-U TRIBBLE. We get upgraded to be on par completely with the T6 ships that are coming out. The way I see it is that if we spend another $5 on a ship we have already spent $25-$30 dollars on, then we are spending in at least as much on that ship as you would have us spend on a T6 ship. They SHOULD be equal.
Lobi/Lockbox/Specialty Ships should auto upgrade as promised, but it too should be straight to T6, there should be no T-5U at all. It is a waste of our time and your time to promote it as such.
T-5U is a failure, either retrofit to T-6, or don't bother us with it at all...
I have been sitting here thinking about this, I have a solution Cryptic...
You want us all to pay for ship upgrades, clearly that is your desire. I will do so, if you make it a true upgrade. T6 Ships. Period. No T5-U TRIBBLE. We get upgraded to be on par completely with the T6 ships that are coming out. The way I see it is that if we spend another $5 on a ship we have already spent $25-$30 dollars on, then we are spending in at least as much on that ship as you would have us spend on a T6 ship. They SHOULD be equal.
Lobi/Lockbox/Specialty Ships should auto upgrade as promised, but it too should be straight to T6, there should be no T-5U at all. It is a waste of our time and your time to promote it as such.
T-5U is a failure, either retrofit to T-6, or don't bother us with it at all...
Couldnt agree more.
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not true... they have said not every tier 6 will get them. I'm guessing it means it's an ensign slot just for the new boff. I think more would break the ui.
As I understand it there, are two things regarding BOs:
1) There is a new type of BO that can have two different power sets. (However that works). Some of the new Tier 6 ships will have access to using these BOs, but not all ships will have that, and definitely no Tier 5 upgrades.
2) There will be an extra BO power slot on the new ships. Whether that means an additiaon BO seat, the upgrade of a Lt.Cmdr to Cmdr, or Cmdr to Captain, we have no idea.
I think not having 1 may be okay. You still have the same number of powers (though we know from t he Galaxy Retrofit threads that same number of powers isn't always sufficient, if the powers you can slot are weak or collide with cooldowns, they cna be weaker, but that seems more a balance problem of the powers, not the ships, IMO) than before. But not having 2.. Very problematic.
The few ships that pay such a cost are Klingon Raiders. And they seem currently not very popular anymore, completely surpassed by Romulan ships with battle cloak. But I could maybe be persuaded that an extra universal slot could help.
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I have been sitting here thinking about this, I have a solution Cryptic...
You want us all to pay for ship upgrades, clearly that is your desire. I will do so, if you make it a true upgrade. T6 Ships. Period. No T5-U TRIBBLE. We get upgraded to be on par completely with the T6 ships that are coming out. The way I see it is that if we spend another $5 on a ship we have already spent $25-$30 dollars on, then we are spending in at least as much on that ship as you would have us spend on a T6 ship. They SHOULD be equal.
Lobi/Lockbox/Specialty Ships should auto upgrade as promised, but it too should be straight to T6, there should be no T-5U at all. It is a waste of our time and your time to promote it as such.
T-5U is a failure, either retrofit to T-6, or don't bother us with it at all...
Indeed. Here's a simple idea to PWE. Leave the ships alone! Stop trying to gauge more money and just make Upgrading FREE. Because I don't think were going to get anything like 5/5 Cruiser with 12 consoles as a T6 ship. Actually, just scrap the whole T6 BS and make the upgraded T5 the final step.
While i appreciate that the new expansion should bring with it a new level to play at, how fair the difference is between T5U and T6 ships is will remain to be seen when you release more details about the features that only T6 ships will have. If it turns out the T6 features missing from a T5U ship are significant, then i am sorry but that will just mean the T5U changes are merely a lip service to stop an outright ****storm.
If they are minor then its not too shabby at all. Though as some have mentioned, the zen upgrade for some of the ships they have already paid once, twice or even three times for is a bit shady Cryptic. Can you just try and have some empathy instead of greed from time to time though? I have some issues with the upgrade system.
I mean even now some of the C-store practices are a bit underhand. For example, buying a kar'fi carrier in the c-store does not entitle you to a 1 FSM upgrade for the fleet version. Same for several other Klingon ships. I hope you don't try and weave in a repeat of this anywhere within the myriad of upgrading options in the expansion.
$5-10 per ship is a bit steep, if you consider some people may own a lot of ships. For example, I have one captain from each faction, all with a lot of ships. (though my Nausicaan has far less due to the stupid c-store upgrade reasons i mentioned above).
In total i would say i have around 15 ships that will require an upgrade to be current when Delta drops. I have probably less Captains than average, but maybe slightly more ships as i have a lot of ships that qualify for free upgrades.
So you really expect people to pay $75-150 when an expansion comes out in order to use things they already paid substantial money for? You need to be a bit down to Earth with this. In other MMO's, expansions cost anything from $20 - 40. If you throw in a few F2P features maybe 80 dollars. But in your game, i could pay the equivalent of that just to use my old **** and keep it current, before i even start thinking about buying the undoubted myriad of stuff that will be teasing us all at launch?
Come on guys.
If you have designed the whole thing to make people steer more towards buying the new stuff then fine, i get that. I understand you need to make as much money as you can from this expansion to justify the development as a F2P game. But just have some empathy for people that don't have so much disposable income. I don't include myself in that bracket but it doesn't stop me from understanding their position.
Other than that, TAKE MY MONEY!
EDIT: Possible idea to make the costs cheaper, use some kind of upgrade token. That doesn't cost $5-10, more like $2.5-5. Then put the tokens in the store, and possible token packs etc etc. People can argue that the proposed pricing is reasonable but it simply isn't when people already paid far more for previous stuff than they would in any other game before an expansion. Stop letting them off the hook. I'm happy to pay big zen for all shiny new ships with bells and whistles, but paying for stuff i already paid for leaves a bad taste in my mouth and smacks of greed.
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What?
First of all why are you listing the fleet ship modules for everything? Noone ever said that they are part of the upgrading system. I think gorngonzolla even comfirmed that they are not.
Another thing is that mirror ships will not be able to get the upgrade and all lobi ships will get it for free.
When I opened the game launcher and saw there was a blog on ship upgrading, I was kind'a excited there for a moment.
Then I read that the upgrades will cost anywhere from $5 to $10. A.k.a. 500 to 1000 zen.
Like, seriously? It already took me 4 fleet modules of constant grind just to get my Fleet Avenger in the first place. Now it'll cost me another time of grinding just so my ship can go from "used to be an ultimate ship" to "almost a max tier ship". That's just sad really. :mad:
Well, at least I can upgrade my Chel Grett, Plesh Brek, and Dyson ships for free. And if I'm right, next winter will give us a T6 Sarr Theln... that'll be fun.
But still, Cryptic should really reconsider the cost range they've tossed out there... instead of 500-1000 ZEN, something like 100-500 ZEN would be A LOT more reasonable. :cool:
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this TRIBBLE forces me to upgrade 31 T5 ships on all my chars
assuming that upgrades cost 500 zen and each ship need to be upgraded individually then cryptic would force me to spend 15500 Zen now
Thank you cryptic for robbing me. And you even have the nerves not to give me something useful for my money.
While I am annoyed with the decision let me come back to a question nobody has yet answered once?
Riddle me this OP, what would be the point of tier 6 ships if you could upgrade tier 5 ships to their level?
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this TRIBBLE forces me to upgrade 31 T5 ships on all my chars
assuming that upgrades cost 500 zen and each ship need to be upgraded individually then cryptic would force me to spend 15500 Zen now
Thank you cryptic for robbing me. And you even have the nerves not to give me something useful for my money.
It's a MMO (F2P at that), did you really expect to use your old stuff with a level cap increase? You should be happy they gave you the option in the first place.
I doubt Guikd Wars or WoW would give you this option.
I have been sitting here thinking about this, I have a solution Cryptic...
You want us all to pay for ship upgrades, clearly that is your desire. I will do so, if you make it a true upgrade. T6 Ships. Period. No T5-U TRIBBLE. We get upgraded to be on par completely with the T6 ships that are coming out. The way I see it is that if we spend another $5 on a ship we have already spent $25-$30 dollars on, then we are spending in at least as much on that ship as you would have us spend on a T6 ship. They SHOULD be equal.
Lobi/Lockbox/Specialty Ships should auto upgrade as promised, but it too should be straight to T6, there should be no T-5U at all. It is a waste of our time and your time to promote it as such.
T-5U is a failure, either retrofit to T-6, or don't bother us with it at all...
I've never liked the arguement "well they don't make you do it" or "you don't have to, if you don't want to".
In all actuality, yeah, they kind of do. Just take any ship you can captain at level forty, and run it through the Hive on elite. Or the undine missions on elite. Not easy is it? Even on normal, some of the T5 ships have issues with those missions (because instead of balancing and adding challenge, they just give health and damage). Sure, you don't need to buy that stuff. But it would be better if you did. Now imagine taking those same level forty ships and dropping them into some brand new level 60 elite content. How does that work out for you? Sure, there are plenty of Captains out there who can do it, but what about those who don't? What about the majority of players that want to have fun instead of min/maxing every aspect of their ship? That content is effectively no use to them anymore unless they buy the ships that give better performance at the new end game.
Plus if you haven't noticed, new ships will start being the new thing. No need for older style ships, since the new ships will be made to handle new content while old ships get left behind. The new ships will have console slots and new abilities that the old ships just don't get. Upgrading would make that easier. Spend a little, get a little. Having trouble? Spend a little to do a fleet upgrade. Did we make the new elite too hard? Pay for a ship that you've already paid for, and it will be a little better. Oh, worried that your fleet ship won't work as well against T6 ships? Spend a little for that as well. And god knows there are going to be fleet versions of your T6 ships, so there is a little more you have to spend, which still makes your fancy T5 ship that you've had to pay 3 times for obsolete again.
So yeah... you kinda have to spend the money. They design it that way. Even windows forces you to do it, because if you don't spend the money and keep up, you get left behind with no support. You either spend in small amounts here and there, or large amounts once in a while, but you still have to spend to keep up.
As for the constructive criticism, that's what my last bit was on. People on the forums toss out a lot of great and more respectable ways to have cryptic take their money. Cryptic doesn't listen very often. I've even posted threads about ideas to get people to spend more money. Yes, people tend to complain about this game in a negative way, and i can see why the devs get tired of hearing that, but at the same time, when they don't listen to all the great ideas, or even care to fix any of the major problems with their own product, people aren't going to have a lot of nice things to say.
Some times, Cryptic makes a move that's just so bad, so out right greedy or disrespectful, that the community NEEDS to toss constructive to the wind. They need to stand up and let the company know that they're not happy with this product that they're paying for. Nice words would only be overlooked, but a forum of raging A-holes with the same singular problem, yeah, just try to ignore that.
Realistically, Cryptic is providing a product. People should, but don't have to be nice about it as long as they're paying. Cryptic should, but doesn't have to listen to them either, but it will effect Cryptic worse than it will the people. If Cryptic wants to stop hearing people being so negative, they need to make the first moves to make things right, not just ignore the players and fans. If they start putting in the quality that Star Trek deserves, then people will gladly start saying great things to the devs.
People LOVE Star Trek. People want to immerse themselves in it. A Star Trek MMO is a great way to do that. The better quality the MMO, the more people will want to play and will be willing to pay to do so. Delivering sub par quality and making cheap jabs at someone's fandom will do nothing but make people bad mouth your game, your company, and give you an F rating at the better business bureau.
I've been here for a long time, so i've left plenty constructive feedback, but I've been playing Cryptic games a lot longer, and frankly, they've done nothing but earn everything they get from the forums, both good and bad. There's a lot of legitimately great people at Cryptic, and a lot of them are just as hardcore (if not more) into Trek, as we are, but as a Company, I fully believe that Cryptic constantly shoots itself in the foot. More so since PWE took over.
Needless to say, asking people to pay for an upgrade to a ship they already paid to upgrade, after paying to play the ship in the first place is a jerk move. Especially since they're still not going to be as good as the T6 ships and even those will get paid upgrades later on. If we don't voice out about it now, they will just keep doing it and laughing while people hand over more money just to keep a head of the powercreep and lack of balance or quality.
Right now they haven't listed anything. They have said upgrades will have a cost for some ships and will be free for others but have neither confirmed exact costs or if different ships will cost different amounts. Waiting until we know exactly how much upgrades will cost is better than trying to suggest different, possibly higher, costs than what is anticipated.
I would still rather just have a direct cost and no item to upgrade as items in markets just get hit by money hoarders who drive the price up incessantly.
I went through half the tread and I didn't see a proposition as the one i'm going to give in the next lines, but one thing I find really important to state is: PWE are using our desire to fly the very best of the very best ships in a disgusting way - first you pay for a c-store ship, then starbases are introduced, so you have to pay more to upgrade and now you want us to upgrade them again?! Ok, I would agree to do it if the ship is comparable to T6, which apparently won't be the case. Which leads us to the next thing: in my understanding we'll be forced to get a T6 ship and that is where the idea came to my mind:
Make it possible to turn old ships for the "tokens" needed to upgrade or % of their value in Zen - at least in that way people would be able to make something of their old and now obsolete stuff.
It's a MMO (F2P at that), did you really expect to use your old stuff with a level cap increase? You should be happy they gave you the option in the first place.
I doubt Guikd Wars or WoW would give you this option.
Gear becoming obsolete is the industry standard.
Hi cryptic defender fan boy! I hope you feel good about yourself for that statement. And to answer your question, yes because I paid and ground for it like every other player here. I'm not paying or grinding anymore. I've done my bit for king and country.
Well yeah the whole system has some major flaws. It's kind of a cruel joke that regular T5s with the upgrade just have the stats as not upgraded fleet T5s. So to get a T5U with equal stats to a T6 you have to use a fleet ship for upgrading.
As for the fleet ha'apax, I spotted somethig interesting. The ha'apax ist not listed but something that is on the list is the Fleet Haakona Advanced Warbird which doesn't exist, it's called Fleet Ha'apax Advanced Warbird in game. Would be interesting if this is just an typing error or intentional.
I have a question regarding upgrading Fleet Ships that hopefully one of you intrepid forum folks can answer.
If I upgrade my Fleet Assault Cruiser, will that upgrade be for all my toons who own that magnificent ship, or will it be a single toon upgrade?
I understand that my Vesta, Andorian whatever, Dyson, & Oddy will be account wide upgradable, but the Fleet ships I'm not clear on. (I'm honestly expecting that to be a no, but would like the confirmation.)
I wonder how many threads about this we will seeing these days. Even if people already knew , they will keep posting complaining posts about T5U ships being worst than the new fancy T6 ships.
Wake up, everybody already knew that. Just some of you refused to believe it. But since older players know how cryptic works, everyone of em was expecting something like this. I said it millions of times even 2 months ago. New ships will be far better than any other ship. That is a logical step if you think how cryptic works. And the money in the middle of the matter is the other proof. Please guys, seriously, wake up. Complainings now about what?? about something you already knew months ago?? sigh, always the same story.
Just wanted to state my disappointment that you chose to make the upgrades zen instead of dilithium. By crashing the exchange you will make a ton of $$$$$$$$$ in the short term. We'll see if people grind dil for long at 400 though. Maybe they will.
Otherwise it sounds to me like the upgrades will be fair. Looking forward to upgrade my vet ships and my Vesta and Risian ships.
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Couldnt agree more.
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As I understand it there, are two things regarding BOs:
1) There is a new type of BO that can have two different power sets. (However that works). Some of the new Tier 6 ships will have access to using these BOs, but not all ships will have that, and definitely no Tier 5 upgrades.
2) There will be an extra BO power slot on the new ships. Whether that means an additiaon BO seat, the upgrade of a Lt.Cmdr to Cmdr, or Cmdr to Captain, we have no idea.
I think not having 1 may be okay. You still have the same number of powers (though we know from t he Galaxy Retrofit threads that same number of powers isn't always sufficient, if the powers you can slot are weak or collide with cooldowns, they cna be weaker, but that seems more a balance problem of the powers, not the ships, IMO) than before. But not having 2.. Very problematic.
The few ships that pay such a cost are Klingon Raiders. And they seem currently not very popular anymore, completely surpassed by Romulan ships with battle cloak. But I could maybe be persuaded that an extra universal slot could help.
I agree as well.
Indeed. Here's a simple idea to PWE. Leave the ships alone! Stop trying to gauge more money and just make Upgrading FREE. Because I don't think were going to get anything like 5/5 Cruiser with 12 consoles as a T6 ship. Actually, just scrap the whole T6 BS and make the upgraded T5 the final step.
While i appreciate that the new expansion should bring with it a new level to play at, how fair the difference is between T5U and T6 ships is will remain to be seen when you release more details about the features that only T6 ships will have. If it turns out the T6 features missing from a T5U ship are significant, then i am sorry but that will just mean the T5U changes are merely a lip service to stop an outright ****storm.
If they are minor then its not too shabby at all. Though as some have mentioned, the zen upgrade for some of the ships they have already paid once, twice or even three times for is a bit shady Cryptic. Can you just try and have some empathy instead of greed from time to time though? I have some issues with the upgrade system.
I mean even now some of the C-store practices are a bit underhand. For example, buying a kar'fi carrier in the c-store does not entitle you to a 1 FSM upgrade for the fleet version. Same for several other Klingon ships. I hope you don't try and weave in a repeat of this anywhere within the myriad of upgrading options in the expansion.
$5-10 per ship is a bit steep, if you consider some people may own a lot of ships. For example, I have one captain from each faction, all with a lot of ships. (though my Nausicaan has far less due to the stupid c-store upgrade reasons i mentioned above).
In total i would say i have around 15 ships that will require an upgrade to be current when Delta drops. I have probably less Captains than average, but maybe slightly more ships as i have a lot of ships that qualify for free upgrades.
So you really expect people to pay $75-150 when an expansion comes out in order to use things they already paid substantial money for? You need to be a bit down to Earth with this. In other MMO's, expansions cost anything from $20 - 40. If you throw in a few F2P features maybe 80 dollars. But in your game, i could pay the equivalent of that just to use my old **** and keep it current, before i even start thinking about buying the undoubted myriad of stuff that will be teasing us all at launch?
Come on guys.
If you have designed the whole thing to make people steer more towards buying the new stuff then fine, i get that. I understand you need to make as much money as you can from this expansion to justify the development as a F2P game. But just have some empathy for people that don't have so much disposable income. I don't include myself in that bracket but it doesn't stop me from understanding their position.
Other than that, TAKE MY MONEY!
EDIT: Possible idea to make the costs cheaper, use some kind of upgrade token. That doesn't cost $5-10, more like $2.5-5. Then put the tokens in the store, and possible token packs etc etc. People can argue that the proposed pricing is reasonable but it simply isn't when people already paid far more for previous stuff than they would in any other game before an expansion. Stop letting them off the hook. I'm happy to pay big zen for all shiny new ships with bells and whistles, but paying for stuff i already paid for leaves a bad taste in my mouth and smacks of greed.
First of all why are you listing the fleet ship modules for everything? Noone ever said that they are part of the upgrading system. I think gorngonzolla even comfirmed that they are not.
Another thing is that mirror ships will not be able to get the upgrade and all lobi ships will get it for free.
Then I read that the upgrades will cost anywhere from $5 to $10. A.k.a. 500 to 1000 zen.
Like, seriously? It already took me 4 fleet modules of constant grind just to get my Fleet Avenger in the first place. Now it'll cost me another time of grinding just so my ship can go from "used to be an ultimate ship" to "almost a max tier ship". That's just sad really. :mad:
Well, at least I can upgrade my Chel Grett, Plesh Brek, and Dyson ships for free. And if I'm right, next winter will give us a T6 Sarr Theln... that'll be fun.
But still, Cryptic should really reconsider the cost range they've tossed out there... instead of 500-1000 ZEN, something like 100-500 ZEN would be A LOT more reasonable. :cool:
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this TRIBBLE forces me to upgrade 31 T5 ships on all my chars
assuming that upgrades cost 500 zen and each ship need to be upgraded individually then cryptic would force me to spend 15500 Zen now
Thank you cryptic for robbing me. And you even have the nerves not to give me something useful for my money.
Riddle me this OP, what would be the point of tier 6 ships if you could upgrade tier 5 ships to their level?
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^What he said. I'm in the same boat as you.
I doubt Guikd Wars or WoW would give you this option.
Gear becoming obsolete is the industry standard.
Another +1 here.
They would have to have something unique or no-one would buy them.
They're running a business here. They need to make money somehow
That is the point, have something new and unique.
But they do, and you guys with your equal T6 none sense would make them un-unique.
It's sad but you are completely right.
I would still rather just have a direct cost and no item to upgrade as items in markets just get hit by money hoarders who drive the price up incessantly.
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Make it possible to turn old ships for the "tokens" needed to upgrade or % of their value in Zen - at least in that way people would be able to make something of their old and now obsolete stuff.
My 2 cents..
Hi cryptic defender fan boy! I hope you feel good about yourself for that statement.
As for the fleet ha'apax, I spotted somethig interesting. The ha'apax ist not listed but something that is on the list is the Fleet Haakona Advanced Warbird which doesn't exist, it's called Fleet Ha'apax Advanced Warbird in game. Would be interesting if this is just an typing error or intentional.
If I upgrade my Fleet Assault Cruiser, will that upgrade be for all my toons who own that magnificent ship, or will it be a single toon upgrade?
I understand that my Vesta, Andorian whatever, Dyson, & Oddy will be account wide upgradable, but the Fleet ships I'm not clear on. (I'm honestly expecting that to be a no, but would like the confirmation.)
Wake up, everybody already knew that. Just some of you refused to believe it. But since older players know how cryptic works, everyone of em was expecting something like this. I said it millions of times even 2 months ago. New ships will be far better than any other ship. That is a logical step if you think how cryptic works. And the money in the middle of the matter is the other proof. Please guys, seriously, wake up. Complainings now about what?? about something you already knew months ago?? sigh, always the same story.
Otherwise it sounds to me like the upgrades will be fair. Looking forward to upgrade my vet ships and my Vesta and Risian ships.
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