I find the exploration content to be massively repetitive; more then the stfs and rep system combined. I won't miss it. I'm probably not alone in that regard.
I'm happy for you. Why are you dismissing the people that will miss it?
It really doesn't seem like something anyone ought to have to be defending; yet here we are, having to try and explain ourselves over and over. In the face of a surprising degree of hostility and contempt at that; or so it seems to me (not you in particular. Just in general.).
I'm happy for you. Why are you dismissing the people that will miss it?
It really doesn't seem like something anyone ought to have to be defending; yet here we are, having to try and explain ourselves over and over. In the face of a surprising degree of hostility and contempt at that; or so it seems to me (not you in particular. Just in general.).
What I'm dismissing is people whining over the inevitiable. Cryptic's removing it. All the posts in the world won't change that. 9000 posts didn't fix the galaxy. 300 posts isn't going to make them change their minds on the cluster removal. On top of that we don't know what they have planned for the future. They might be working on a whole new exploration system. They've been working on the new expansion pack for 7 months. We have no ideal what they're working on since they're developing nearly a year ahead of release at this point.
I'm happy for you. Why are you dismissing the people that will miss it?
It really doesn't seem like something anyone ought to have to be defending; yet here we are, having to try and explain ourselves over and over. In the face of a surprising degree of hostility and contempt at that; or so it seems to me (not you in particular. Just in general.).
AMEN!
It doesn't matter if you liked it or not. When it was in game YOU had the option of not playing it. I had the option to do so. That option is gone now. Not replaced, just gone.
The stated reasons for getting rid of the content are disingenuous at best and an outright smokescreen/lie at worst. Just as much as those who liked the star cluster missions will admit they weren't 'four-star' material, those who don't miss them must admit that the given excuses smell fishy.
DS9 Fleet Action, Terradome and Exploration missions NEED to come back. Improved would be gravy. But "we'll want to address that" doesn't instill confidence in me. See: PWE track record.
What I'm dismissing is people whining over the inevitiable. Cryptic's removing it. All the posts in the world won't change that. 9000 posts didn't fix the galaxy. 300 posts isn't going to make them change their minds on the cluster removal. On top of that we don't know what they have planned for the future. They might be working on a whole new exploration system. They've been working on the new expansion pack for 7 months. We have no ideal what they're working on since they're developing nearly a year ahead of release at this point.
Lay down, be quiet and accept it? NOPE!
And Thanks for reminding me: BRING BACK OLD STFs while we are at it.
I just hope that the culling of the Exploration clusters means we're going to get a real exploration system with the next expansion or so. Maybe not on a "No Man's Sky" level, but with some actual exploration in a persistent galaxy.
That is the hope. There are 2 facts that I cling onto ever since Cryptic announced they are removing the exploration clusters.
1. No exploration in a Star Trek game like this makes no sense.
2. There must be an exploration system in unexplored space like the Delta Quadrant.
Even before the exploration cluster removal was announced me and some other players were hoping for a decent exploration system to be introduced in Expansion 2 since we are supposed to go to the Delta Quadrant this year.
What I'm dismissing is people whining over the inevitiable. Cryptic's removing it. All the posts in the world won't change that. 9000 posts didn't fix the galaxy. 300 posts isn't going to make them change their minds on the cluster removal. On top of that we don't know what they have planned for the future. They might be working on a whole new exploration system. They've been working on the new expansion pack for 7 months. We have no ideal what they're working on since they're developing nearly a year ahead of release at this point.
You thought that would accomplish something?
You need to keep in mind that nobody likes having their feelings trampled. I draw your attention to that fact that you provoked 4 more pages of 'whining'; and before you it was some other guys posting the same sort of stuff.
Picking fights just makes people angrier; a little understanding would calm things down a lot faster.
And yes, I realise I'm probably asking way too much of the internet there. :P
You need to keep in mind that nobody likes having their feelings trampled. I draw your attention to that fact that you provoked 4 more pages of 'whining'; and before you it was some other guys posting the same sort of stuff.
Picking fights just makes people angrier; a little understanding would calm things down a lot faster.
And yes, I realise I'm probably asking way too much of the internet there. :P
What you guys fail to grasp is the decision to remove the clusters wasn't made last week. It was made many months ago and the company's been building stuff based on the new design since then. They can't unmake the decision because the months they've spent on season 9.5 and the new expansion depends on the new system being in place, whatever that system is.
They started building the new expansion in december. That means the proposal was written and submitted to cbs for approval back in october. If the new expansion comes in november that means they've been working on it 13 months from concept to delivery. They were working on it 6 months before anyone even knew about it.
Games aren't built in a week-to-week basis. Sto is being built 6 months to a year ahead of time. Everything people are raging against today was decide a long time ago. That isn't going to change. You're raging against something that can't be undone because they have months of work put into the new systems.
You're raging about something that can't be changed; and even if it the change was eventually reversed it would be 6 months to a year away before we'd see it put back in, because they're working that far out.
You remember things I posted 2 years ago. Stranger? Really?
Honestly, it's the rampant mistrust that bugs me more than anything on all sides on the forums.
Some of what I say probably comes off more heated than what I mean and my blood may run hot in the moment...
But one of my biggest pet peeves online is distrust. I think it's a mistake to make strawmen out of people you disagree with or fall back on calling people strangers. Or liars for that matter. I think Cryptic folks have fudged things on occasion to avoid getting into what they'd see as a quagmire but I don't fundamentally mistrust them or any of the posters here unless they give off an aura of disingenuousness (and that's why I have a distaste for forum personas).
If you're going to gather and talk, you might as well do so under the pretense of being friends even if you start as strangers or with hostile positions, as long as nothing indicates the other party has a MOTIVE for being disingenuous.
The Cryptic folks know my real name and some have contacted me before over disagreements. I'd actually be happier with the forums if they'd just link them up to facebook or Twitter accounts and require real names. I actually really hope somebody from Cryptic turns up at Comic-Con as I've said I'd like to buy a coffee or beer for somebody on the STO team.
And while you and I might disagree, I don't see where it's fruitful to challenge sincerity unless somebody makes a point of "playing a character" on the forums, either through in-universe posting ("I am Klingon and I demand an honor duel! Qaplah'!", "Speaking as a Romulan loyalist...") or trumped up forum personas ("Dear disciples! Offer your praise to me and I will bring you peace and joy!"). If you show up and say, "I am a player who likes X", I may engage or disagree but I think it'd be rude to assume that you don't actually think that.
What you guys fail to grasp is the decision to remove the clusters wasn't made last week. It was made many months ago and the company's been building stuff based on the new design since then. They can't unmake the decision because the months they've spent on season 9.5 and the new expansion depends on the new system being in place, whatever that system is.
Building stuff based on what design ? Which new system is based on the removal of Exploration ? Where is this coming from ? Are you just making stuff up now ? Is there any source ?
Sure the decision to remove clusters was probably made many months ago, but why do you assume it has anything to do with Expansion 2 or even Season 9.5 (other than it'll happen in S 9.5), especially when the official statement is, that it's not because of the Crafting Revamp or anything else in S 9.5 ...
Most of us, don't expect them to change their mind on this ... but some "real" acknowledgment that Exploration needs to be back & should be important in STO ... right now all we've got is "We'll want to ..." and that I heard before about "Weekly FE's", "Poker Minigame" etc etc ... (doesn't matter how hard people want to assume Exploration is going to be back [i.E. in Exp.2] .... it's just an assumption, based on nothing ...)
Patch Notes : Resolved an Issue, where people would accidently experience Fun.
So when cryptic communicates and gives reason why they remove things, they are immediately called liars and/or their reasoning is flawed.
When they don't communicate, they are called names for detroying the game and not telling anybody in advance.
and well, yes other developers remove stuff from their games all the time...not so much mission content, but game mechanics or abilities from classes and NPCs. Mostly done for the sake of balance, but still it is in general for improving the game's quality.
at first i honestly didn't care about those garbage missions being removed. I found the concept irritating and unecessary even when there was literaly no other endgame content. I still do, so i don't care.
Now i really hope they remove even more of the old garbage missions, so maybe one or more of you guys leave STO for good over this. I truly hope this will weed out those morons who take up server capacity.
So when cryptic communicates and gives reason why they remove things, they are immediately called liars and/or their reasoning is flawed.
When they don't communicate, they are called names for detroying the game and not telling anybody in advance.
and well, yes other developers remove stuff from their games all the time...not so much mission content, but game mechanics or abilities from classes and NPCs. Mostly done for the sake of balance, but still it is in general for improving the game's quality.
at first i honestly didn't care about those garbage missions being removed. I found the concept irritating and unecessary even when there was literaly no other endgame content. I still do, so i don't care.
Now i really hope they remove even more of the old garbage missions, so maybe one or more of you guys leave STO for good over this. I truly hope this will weed out those morons who take up server capacity.
Vanilla Ice
You don't remove exploration from a star trek game if you don't have a viable replacement ready to go straight in.
There reasoning is idiotic and to not call them out on it is equally idiotic. If the game to big they could just deploy the exploration bits like they do the Foundry missions, from their servers, that way they cut down the installation size of the game, why still maintaining what star trek should be in the first place, exploration.
An really you want people playing star trek online that get lost in a square? or can't figure out how to complete the various exploration missions?.
An what is a shame is that much of the combat in these missions are more fun than the next borg invasion or the combat in the PVE Ques.
They might be working on a whole new exploration system. They've been working on the new expansion pack for 7 months. We have no ideal what they're working on since they're developing nearly a year ahead of release at this point.
Do you have any evidence to back up that highlighted claim ?
('cuz the continued buggy releases just scream "we barely put this thing together")
Also , if they were working on a new exploration system -- would it hurt them to say so at the time of the removal of the Genesis Engine ?
You don't remove exploration from a star trek game if you don't have a viable replacement ready to go straight in.
There reasoning is idiotic and to not call them out on it is equally idiotic. If the game to big they could just deploy the exploration bits like they do the Foundry missions, from their servers, that way they cut down the installation size of the game, why still maintaining what star trek should be in the first place, exploration.
An really you want people playing star trek online that get lost in a square? or can't figure out how to complete the various exploration missions?.
An what is a shame is that much of the combat in these missions are more fun than the next borg invasion or the combat in the PVE Ques.
i would call it an insult to even call the random ****ty missions in the clusters "exploration"...if that is your image of "exploration" you srsly can't distinguish quality games from utter BS and deserve that abomination of a mission pool. HF klicking 5 consoles.
i would call it an insult to even call the random ****ty missions in the clusters "exploration"...if that is your image of "exploration" you srsly can't distinguish quality games from utter BS and deserve that abomination of a mission pool. HF klicking 5 consoles.
It the only exploration content in the game,, an yes it not very good, but it the only thing we got, it still more fun doing some those exploration missions than some of the P&E ques.
An I can distinguish quality games from TRIBBLE just fine. The only reason I play STO is because it a star trek game, sadly it becoming less and less like a star trek game all the time. An it about to be seriously outclass in virtually every area in the coming months by new space games that take exploration seriously. If they are dropping massive numbers already, how low will they go once Elite, star citizen and No Man's Sky arrive on the scene.
really do ppl writing books on each other here !?!??!?!?!
Aparently.
What we actually have here on the boards are several horsemen with the "higher than thou" attitude who suffer from delusions of grandeur and genuinely think they're better than anyone else.
Interestingly, those same people seem to have insight in PWE's finances, Cryptic's long and short term plans, game development, Cryptic's employees' paychecks as well as the devs' daily toilet schedule. :rolleyes: They also on ocassions become clairvoyant and also gain the ability to read people's minds - especially if those people happen to be LDs or EPs.
*In Spock's voice* "Curious."
So it wouldn't suprise me if some of them, suffering from all that intellect and awesomeness pouring from their ears decided to write books on some of us, the simple peasants around here.
Somewhere in between people getting lost in the old ESD (which was a circle), getting lost in the exploration clusters (which are squares with only 1 entry/exit point), complaining about the Borg cubes in Ker'rat being too strong, complaining about the Scimitar being too weak, ESD zone chat, the whining about bikinis while essential gameplay elements are falling apart, and now this nice example of "STFU and take it like a good minion" which has been so prominent lately - it's really very hard to be suprised about the general direction that STO is taking.
As far as removing things because of bad implementation for the exploration cause people get lost and the like I'm gonna leave this quote here.
"A Bad plan NOW is better than a perfect plan later." George Patton.
meaning leave exploration since it's here NOW and does the job until you're ready with that perfect plan later.
Taking it away and the leaving a vacuum is a BAD IDEA.
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"A Bad plan NOW is better than a perfect plan later." George Patton.
yeah well, i really think this doesn't apply here since patton really just meant that anything is better than giving the initiative to the enemy.
I think STO had/has enough of "bad" content already. I actually rather have better content later than really bad content now.
What we actually have here on the boards are several horsemen with the "higher than thou" attitude who suffer from delusions of grandeur and genuinely think they're better than anyone else.
Interestingly, those same people seem to have insight in PWE's finances, Cryptic's long and short term plans, game development, Cryptic's employees' paychecks as well as the devs' daily toilet schedule. :rolleyes: They also on ocassions become clairvoyant and also gain the ability to read people's minds - especially if those people happen to be LDs or EPs.
*In Spock's voice* "Curious."
So it wouldn't suprise me if some of them, suffering from all that intellect and awesomeness pouring from their ears decided to write books on some of us, the simple peasants around here.
Somewhere in between people getting lost in the old ESD (which was a circle), getting lost in the exploration clusters (which are squares with only 1 entry/exit point), complaining about the Borg cubes in Ker'rat being too strong, complaining about the Scimitar being too weak, ESD zone chat, the whining about bikinis while essential gameplay elements are falling apart, and now this nice example of "STFU and take it like a good minion" which has been so prominent lately - it's really very hard to be suprised about the general direction that STO is taking.
So, you're quitting STO?
You come accross quite smug yourself...and no, i'm just holding up the door for you, and make sure you are actually never coming back.
We'll see, depending on whether you're still here after the implementation. :cool:
Shots fired! RED ALERT ALL HANDS TO BATTLESTATIONS!
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You come accross quite smug yourself...and no, i'm just holding up the door for you, and make sure you are actually never coming back.
Cool story. Just make sure you have a scarf and warm clothing in order to not catch a draft while you're holding the door open and waiting for me to leave.
Somewhere in between people getting lost in the old ESD (which was a circle), getting lost in the exploration clusters (which are squares with only 1 entry/exit point), complaining about the Borg cubes in Ker'rat being too strong, complaining about the Scimitar being too weak, ESD zone chat, the whining about bikinis while essential gameplay elements are falling apart, and now this nice example of "STFU and take it like a good minion" which has been so prominent lately - it's really very hard to be suprised about the general direction that STO is taking.
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I just wanted to quote that bit because it's just worthy of being quoted *squeal of approval*
^ Memory Alpha.org is not canon. It's a open wiki with arbitrary rules. Only what can be cited from an episode is. ^
"No. Men do not roar. Women roar. Then they hurl heavy objects... and claw at you." -Worf, son of Mogh
"A filthy, mangy beast, but in its bony breast beat the heart of a warrior" - "faithful" (...) "but ever-ready to follow the call of the wild." - Martok, about a Targ
"That pig smelled horrid. A sweet-sour, extremely pungent odor. I showered and showered, and it took me a week to get rid of it!" - Robert Justman, appreciating Emmy-Lou
Okay enough with the personal attacks or I'll play pew pew with a phaser rifle :P (and by phaser rifle i mean my edit and delete buttons)
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Okay enough with the personal attacks or I'll play pew pew with a phaser rifle :P (and by phaser rifle i mean my edit and delete buttons)
We're all friendlies. all friendlies here!
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I think the lack of faith here is what I find disturbing. Especially when, if anything, D'Angelo has shown a commitment towards single player friendly content with randomized elements and actually doing things in steps while refusing to leak what those steps are.
The only thing D'Angelo is committed to is more repetitive grind and time gated content.
He, himself, remarked that players went through the Dyson rep too fast. In other words, it wasn't grind-y enough for him.
While we have seen a reduction in "grinding pains", in the Reputation System since then, Cryptic has made up for it in other areas, such as the so-called "Grindiversery" and this new crafting system (to name a couple of examples).
The only thing D'Angelo is committed to is more repetitive grind and time gated content.
He, himself, remarked that players went through the Dyson rep too fast. In other words, it wasn't grind-y enough for him.
While we have seen a reduction in "grinding pains", in the Reputation System since then, Cryptic has made up for it in other areas, such as the so-called "Grindiversery" and this new crafting system (to name a couple of examples).
please, be so kind and name a single MMORPG that has NO repetitive content at endgame?
Do you play foundry?
Player went through Dyson rep. too fast because they were able to grind the 1h missions ALL day long...so they limited that to 3 times per day, so that people DO NOT grind ALL DAY.
What we actually have here on the boards are several horsemen with the "higher than thou" attitude who suffer from delusions of grandeur and genuinely think they're better than anyone else.
Interestingly, those same people seem to have insight in PWE's finances, Cryptic's long and short term plans, game development, Cryptic's employees' paychecks as well as the devs' daily toilet schedule. :rolleyes: They also on ocassions become clairvoyant and also gain the ability to read people's minds - especially if those people happen to be LDs or EPs.
*In Spock's voice* "Curious."
So it wouldn't suprise me if some of them, suffering from all that intellect and awesomeness pouring from their ears decided to write books on some of us, the simple peasants around here.
Somewhere in between people getting lost in the old ESD (which was a circle), getting lost in the exploration clusters (which are squares with only 1 entry/exit point), complaining about the Borg cubes in Ker'rat being too strong, complaining about the Scimitar being too weak, ESD zone chat, the whining about bikinis while essential gameplay elements are falling apart, and now this nice example of "STFU and take it like a good minion" which has been so prominent lately - it's really very hard to be suprised about the general direction that STO is taking.
So, you're quitting STO?
This whole post is chock full o' win.
But yeah, I do hope that X2 brings exploration back with it. And Terradome. And the DS9 fleet action. In a perfect world (heh) I would see all the removed content back, with bugs fixed and improved where needed. Hopefully it will happen.
But do I count on it? "We will want to address that...."
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I'm happy for you. Why are you dismissing the people that will miss it?
It really doesn't seem like something anyone ought to have to be defending; yet here we are, having to try and explain ourselves over and over. In the face of a surprising degree of hostility and contempt at that; or so it seems to me (not you in particular. Just in general.).
AMEN!
It doesn't matter if you liked it or not. When it was in game YOU had the option of not playing it. I had the option to do so. That option is gone now. Not replaced, just gone.
The stated reasons for getting rid of the content are disingenuous at best and an outright smokescreen/lie at worst. Just as much as those who liked the star cluster missions will admit they weren't 'four-star' material, those who don't miss them must admit that the given excuses smell fishy.
DS9 Fleet Action, Terradome and Exploration missions NEED to come back. Improved would be gravy. But "we'll want to address that" doesn't instill confidence in me. See: PWE track record.
Lay down, be quiet and accept it? NOPE!
And Thanks for reminding me: BRING BACK OLD STFs while we are at it.
That is the hope. There are 2 facts that I cling onto ever since Cryptic announced they are removing the exploration clusters.
1. No exploration in a Star Trek game like this makes no sense.
2. There must be an exploration system in unexplored space like the Delta Quadrant.
Even before the exploration cluster removal was announced me and some other players were hoping for a decent exploration system to be introduced in Expansion 2 since we are supposed to go to the Delta Quadrant this year.
You thought that would accomplish something?
You need to keep in mind that nobody likes having their feelings trampled. I draw your attention to that fact that you provoked 4 more pages of 'whining'; and before you it was some other guys posting the same sort of stuff.
Picking fights just makes people angrier; a little understanding would calm things down a lot faster.
And yes, I realise I'm probably asking way too much of the internet there. :P
They started building the new expansion in december. That means the proposal was written and submitted to cbs for approval back in october. If the new expansion comes in november that means they've been working on it 13 months from concept to delivery. They were working on it 6 months before anyone even knew about it.
Games aren't built in a week-to-week basis. Sto is being built 6 months to a year ahead of time. Everything people are raging against today was decide a long time ago. That isn't going to change. You're raging against something that can't be undone because they have months of work put into the new systems.
You're raging about something that can't be changed; and even if it the change was eventually reversed it would be 6 months to a year away before we'd see it put back in, because they're working that far out.
Honestly, it's the rampant mistrust that bugs me more than anything on all sides on the forums.
Some of what I say probably comes off more heated than what I mean and my blood may run hot in the moment...
But one of my biggest pet peeves online is distrust. I think it's a mistake to make strawmen out of people you disagree with or fall back on calling people strangers. Or liars for that matter. I think Cryptic folks have fudged things on occasion to avoid getting into what they'd see as a quagmire but I don't fundamentally mistrust them or any of the posters here unless they give off an aura of disingenuousness (and that's why I have a distaste for forum personas).
If you're going to gather and talk, you might as well do so under the pretense of being friends even if you start as strangers or with hostile positions, as long as nothing indicates the other party has a MOTIVE for being disingenuous.
The Cryptic folks know my real name and some have contacted me before over disagreements. I'd actually be happier with the forums if they'd just link them up to facebook or Twitter accounts and require real names. I actually really hope somebody from Cryptic turns up at Comic-Con as I've said I'd like to buy a coffee or beer for somebody on the STO team.
And while you and I might disagree, I don't see where it's fruitful to challenge sincerity unless somebody makes a point of "playing a character" on the forums, either through in-universe posting ("I am Klingon and I demand an honor duel! Qaplah'!", "Speaking as a Romulan loyalist...") or trumped up forum personas ("Dear disciples! Offer your praise to me and I will bring you peace and joy!"). If you show up and say, "I am a player who likes X", I may engage or disagree but I think it'd be rude to assume that you don't actually think that.
Building stuff based on what design ? Which new system is based on the removal of Exploration ? Where is this coming from ? Are you just making stuff up now ? Is there any source ?
Sure the decision to remove clusters was probably made many months ago, but why do you assume it has anything to do with Expansion 2 or even Season 9.5 (other than it'll happen in S 9.5), especially when the official statement is, that it's not because of the Crafting Revamp or anything else in S 9.5 ...
Most of us, don't expect them to change their mind on this ... but some "real" acknowledgment that Exploration needs to be back & should be important in STO ... right now all we've got is "We'll want to ..." and that I heard before about "Weekly FE's", "Poker Minigame" etc etc ... (doesn't matter how hard people want to assume Exploration is going to be back [i.E. in Exp.2] .... it's just an assumption, based on nothing ...)
When they don't communicate, they are called names for detroying the game and not telling anybody in advance.
and well, yes other developers remove stuff from their games all the time...not so much mission content, but game mechanics or abilities from classes and NPCs. Mostly done for the sake of balance, but still it is in general for improving the game's quality.
at first i honestly didn't care about those garbage missions being removed. I found the concept irritating and unecessary even when there was literaly no other endgame content. I still do, so i don't care.
Now i really hope they remove even more of the old garbage missions, so maybe one or more of you guys leave STO for good over this. I truly hope this will weed out those morons who take up server capacity.
Vanilla Ice
There reasoning is idiotic and to not call them out on it is equally idiotic. If the game to big they could just deploy the exploration bits like they do the Foundry missions, from their servers, that way they cut down the installation size of the game, why still maintaining what star trek should be in the first place, exploration.
An really you want people playing star trek online that get lost in a square? or can't figure out how to complete the various exploration missions?.
An what is a shame is that much of the combat in these missions are more fun than the next borg invasion or the combat in the PVE Ques.
I agree with what you are saying. But do feel the need to point out that the post you are replying to was designed to elicit a response on purpose.
The person called others morons and the quoted vanilla ice. That's transparent bait.
But yeah, I agree with what you're saying.
Do you have any evidence to back up that highlighted claim ?
('cuz the continued buggy releases just scream "we barely put this thing together")
Also , if they were working on a new exploration system -- would it hurt them to say so at the time of the removal of the Genesis Engine ?
i would call it an insult to even call the random ****ty missions in the clusters "exploration"...if that is your image of "exploration" you srsly can't distinguish quality games from utter BS and deserve that abomination of a mission pool. HF klicking 5 consoles.
It the only exploration content in the game,, an yes it not very good, but it the only thing we got, it still more fun doing some those exploration missions than some of the P&E ques.
An I can distinguish quality games from TRIBBLE just fine. The only reason I play STO is because it a star trek game, sadly it becoming less and less like a star trek game all the time. An it about to be seriously outclass in virtually every area in the coming months by new space games that take exploration seriously. If they are dropping massive numbers already, how low will they go once Elite, star citizen and No Man's Sky arrive on the scene.
Aparently.
What we actually have here on the boards are several horsemen with the "higher than thou" attitude who suffer from delusions of grandeur and genuinely think they're better than anyone else.
Interestingly, those same people seem to have insight in PWE's finances, Cryptic's long and short term plans, game development, Cryptic's employees' paychecks as well as the devs' daily toilet schedule. :rolleyes: They also on ocassions become clairvoyant and also gain the ability to read people's minds - especially if those people happen to be LDs or EPs.
*In Spock's voice* "Curious."
So it wouldn't suprise me if some of them, suffering from all that intellect and awesomeness pouring from their ears decided to write books on some of us, the simple peasants around here.
Somewhere in between people getting lost in the old ESD (which was a circle), getting lost in the exploration clusters (which are squares with only 1 entry/exit point), complaining about the Borg cubes in Ker'rat being too strong, complaining about the Scimitar being too weak, ESD zone chat, the whining about bikinis while essential gameplay elements are falling apart, and now this nice example of "STFU and take it like a good minion" which has been so prominent lately - it's really very hard to be suprised about the general direction that STO is taking.
So, you're quitting STO?
"A Bad plan NOW is better than a perfect plan later." George Patton.
meaning leave exploration since it's here NOW and does the job until you're ready with that perfect plan later.
Taking it away and the leaving a vacuum is a BAD IDEA.
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yeah well, i really think this doesn't apply here since patton really just meant that anything is better than giving the initiative to the enemy.
I think STO had/has enough of "bad" content already. I actually rather have better content later than really bad content now.
You come accross quite smug yourself...and no, i'm just holding up the door for you, and make sure you are actually never coming back.
We'll see, depending on whether you're still here after the implementation. :cool:
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Cool story. Just make sure you have a scarf and warm clothing in order to not catch a draft while you're holding the door open and waiting for me to leave.
I just wanted to quote that bit because it's just worthy of being quoted *squeal of approval*
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what do you mean by that? Is this a threat?
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The only thing D'Angelo is committed to is more repetitive grind and time gated content.
He, himself, remarked that players went through the Dyson rep too fast. In other words, it wasn't grind-y enough for him.
While we have seen a reduction in "grinding pains", in the Reputation System since then, Cryptic has made up for it in other areas, such as the so-called "Grindiversery" and this new crafting system (to name a couple of examples).
please, be so kind and name a single MMORPG that has NO repetitive content at endgame?
Do you play foundry?
Player went through Dyson rep. too fast because they were able to grind the 1h missions ALL day long...so they limited that to 3 times per day, so that people DO NOT grind ALL DAY.
you throw the word "grind" around way too casual.
This whole post is chock full o' win.
But yeah, I do hope that X2 brings exploration back with it. And Terradome. And the DS9 fleet action. In a perfect world (heh) I would see all the removed content back, with bugs fixed and improved where needed. Hopefully it will happen.
But do I count on it? "We will want to address that...."