if you using 15$ internet i feel sooo sooo sorry for you and imo and you should not be MMO gaming sorry......... may want to find a game that accommodate 10 year old internet or get a better pc
At what point did I say I have $15.00 internet?
The fact that not everyone can afford more then $15.00 for internet does not mean they should not have access to gaming.
You are the guy who stated you only make $686.00 a month. I am amazed at how you can seem to afford the best PC, best internet, and an LTS. The country you live in must have a dirt-cheap CoL.
STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
The fact that not everyone can afford more then $15.00 for internet does not mean they should not have access to gaming.
You are the guy who stated you only make $686.00 a month. I am amazed at how you can seem to afford the best PC, best internet, and an LTS. The country you live in must have a dirt-cheap CoL.
dont worry about how i spend my money and its 721 tyvm and i miss read you post for that my bad but lets be honest here you may as well say its one of the reason they are pulling exploration missions for them big downloads between streaming and downloading games i go over a 100GB a month
My point is that the stated excuse(s) for taking exploration out is rubbish.
I did not listen to the interview so I cannot make any comments on what Geko stated. Still, if they remove 2 gigs of seldom-used or broken Content and replace it with 2 gigs of EP 2 I can see that as a viable trade-off.
The only reason I ever go into an Exploration Cluster is to earn my Daily Dilithium. Then I get right out.
STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
I did not listen to the interview so I cannot make any comments on what Geko stated. Still, if they remove 2 gigs of seldom-used or broken Content and replace it with 2 gigs of EP 2 I can see that as a viable trade-off.
The only reason I ever go into an Exploration Cluster is to earn my Daily Dilithium. Then I get right out.
They just removed it, didn't replace it with anything.
Expansion by it's nature is supposed to expand the game, not take the place of something else.
We should get exploration back (improved would be great) AND the expansion. Not either or.
Uhm no offense but your phrasing makes it sound like an LTS is a recurring charge.
That being said I'm on a slightly larger budget than daan and it's tough to make ends meet but saving up to buy my LTS was the best investment I made. That pricey one time purchase has provided me with years of entertainment.
But do you also have top-of-the-line internet with a turbo booster as Daan stated he has?
My point was a for a guy who states to make so little money he seems to have the best of everything. That just seems odd to me. He is either living in a country with a low CoL or he has roommates or other people eating some of his living expenses.
STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
They just removed it, didn't replace it with anything.
That did not replace it with anything, yet. EP 2 is coming later in the year, just a couple of months after Season 9.5.
STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
But do you also have top-of-the-line internet with a turbo booster as Daan stated he has?
My point was a for a guy who states to make so little money he seems to have the best of everything. That just seems odd to me. He is either living in a country with a low CoL or he has roommates or other people eating some of his living expenses.
man you seem worried how i spend my money are you writing a book on me?
as janeway told Harry you worry too much its turning you grey
btw for your book my net is 40$ a month and not top of the line its the 3rd package because they have better then 20 MB a sec
verb: expand; 3rd person present: expands; past tense: expanded; past participle: expanded; gerund or present participle: expanding
become or make larger or more extensive
re·place
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verb (used with object), re·placed, re·plac·ing.
1.
to assume the former role, position
Falling back to dictionary definitions is a classic example of someone who cannot refute a point and so tries to troll the answer.
I will stand by my point: removing seldom played and poorly conceived content and replacing it a couple of months later with a new end-game system is only a benefit to the game.
This is classic gaming forum. People have been complaining about the uselessness of Exploration Clusters for a long time, but the moment Cryptic agrees everyone jumps up and down saying how important it is to the game.
STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
then why does wow not remove the first 50 level of content it has it very rarely played take up to much space maybe i should email bizz tell them that why i stop playing then wait for the email of bahahhahahahhahahahhahahhahhahahhahahahha
Falling back to dictionary definitions is a classic example of someone who cannot refute a point and so tries to troll the answer.
I will stand by my point: removing seldom played and poorly conceived content and replacing it a couple of months later with a new end-game system is only a benefit to the game.
This is classic gaming forum. People have been complaining about the uselessness of Exploration Clusters for a long time, but the moment Cryptic agrees everyone jumps up and down saying how important it is to the game.
Refuting your say called points are easy in fact, just tiresome.
I ain't going to change your mind, you have already got it made up that PWE does no wrong.
I am a dissatisfied customer and I WILL voice my concern in the format available to me and stop purchasing anything until the decisions make a turn for what I would view as positive.
Refuting your say called points are easy in fact, just tiresome.
I ain't going to change your mind, you have already got it made up that PWE does no wrong.
I am a dissatisfied customer and I WILL voice my concern in the format available to me and stop purchasing anything until the decisions make a turn for what I would view as positive.
So who stated you cannot voice your concerns? My point was to, at the very least, use real information and logic rather then emotional hyperbole.
What you do not seem to understand is that I could not care less about PWE. What I care about is people intentionally stating incorrect information to try and make their point. There are far too many: "I do not like it so it must be a wrong decision that will ruin the game" posters.
STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
can anyone name a MMORPG that removes content other than PWE and cryptic ??? not seen wow eveonline swtor lotro remove content but then again them are the only mmorpg i have played in my short mmo gaming time since 2007 you can note that in your book to cosmic
Falling back to dictionary definitions is a classic example of someone who cannot refute a point and so tries to troll the answer.
I will stand by my point: removing seldom played and poorly conceived content and replacing it a couple of months later with a new end-game system is only a benefit to the game.
This is classic gaming forum. People have been complaining about the uselessness of Exploration Clusters for a long time, but the moment Cryptic agrees everyone jumps up and down saying how important it is to the game.
For the most part, those of us complaining about the uselessness of the clusters were asking Cryptic to improve them. I'm not going to speak for anyone else here, but that is exactly why I'm ticked off.
Look at it this way: suppose that, after years of saying that PvP would get some serious love eventually, the devs announced that they were removing PvP completely because it was so shoddy and not enough people play it to make new PvP features worth while.
Despite years of saying that PvP is broken and unbalanced, would the PvP community's outrage come as any surprise? Or seem in any way unjustified?
can anyone name a MMORPG that removes content other than PWE and cryptic ??? not seen wow eveonline swtor lotro remove content but then again them are the only mmorpg i have played in my short mmo gaming time since 2007 you can note that in your book to cosmic
STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
think that list alot out of date seeing last time it was updated was 2010/10/06 and look more like change than anything
I would say that removing Raids is more then just changes. Plus, of course it is out of date. Cataclysm was launched 4 years ago. That does not change the fact that there is an entire Wiki devoted to removed content from patch 1.0 to today.
STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
I would say that removing Raids is more then just changes. Plus, of course it is out of date. Cataclysm was launched 4 years ago. That does not change the fact that there is an entire Wiki devoted to removed content from patch 1.0 to today.
how about this you agree with the Dev on their absurd reasons for removing content and you stand with them i dont and nothing you show or say will change that like nothing i say or show you will change you so lets leave it at that
For the most part, those of us complaining about the uselessness of the clusters were asking Cryptic to improve them. I'm not going to speak for anyone else here, but that is exactly why I'm ticked off.
Look at it this way: suppose that, after years of saying that PvP would get some serious love eventually, the devs announced that they were removing PvP completely because it was so shoddy and not enough people play it to make new PvP features worth while.
Despite years of saying that PvP is broken and unbalanced, would the PvP community's outrage come as any surprise? Or seem in any way unjustified?
Same thing.
I contributed to the old "Improved Exploration" thread you started. That is how I remember your name!
Good ideas in there, stuff I hope the dev team takes a look at.
Poor, stupid, pointless those are a few of the ways of expressing the cluster missions.
True but they where random, unexpected and sometimes comical....
As far as I'm understand this removes the only random missions in the game, all other missions are repeated, patrols, episodes, even the foundry is a finite amount.....
If newbies where getting lost, rank gate it, it you didn't want us to farm crafting material and didn't want the hassle of removing it make the drop chance the same as a lock box (.25%),,,!
If they where substandard then what's next most if not all the patrol missions are based on the same template, are we removing them?
There's talk of a replacement coming but when (concrete times not speculation please), what we DO know is that they are being removed and they will be no replacement at the time of removal.
So now I either sit at a space dock waiting for a PvE queue to form up, or replay an already played episode. Funny thing is before I would use the time waiting for the PvE queues to run around a cluster doing meaningless missions which kept me occupied in the game (and earning 1440 Dill at the same time). Now I queue wait, get bored of waiting (i.e. today 'The Big Dig' Daily average wait 9 minutes...) play something else...
Where ever you go, there you are.......
Join The Space Invaders,..... Federation and KDF fleets.
Poor, stupid, pointless those are a few of the ways of expressing the cluster missions.
True but they where random, unexpected and sometimes comical....
As far as I'm understand this removes the only random missions in the game, all other missions are repeated, patrols, episodes, even the foundry is a finite amount.....
If newbies where getting lost, rank gate it, it you didn't want us to farm crafting material and didn't want the hassle of removing it make the drop chance the same as a lock box (.25%),,,!
If they where substandard then what's next most if not all the patrol missions are based on the same template, are we removing them?
There's talk of a replacement coming but when (concrete times not speculation please), what we DO know is that they are being removed and they will be no replacement at the time of removal.
So now I either sit at a space dock waiting for a PvE queue to form up, or replay an already played episode. Funny thing is before I would use the time waiting for the PvE queues to run around a cluster doing meaningless missions which kept me occupied in the game (and earning 1440 Dill at the same time). Now I queue wait, get bored of waiting (i.e. today 'The Big Dig' Daily average wait 9 minutes...) play something else...
Agreed for the most part. I enjoy doing all the content. The exploration missions were not all they could have been, but I liked them for various reasons.
Agreed for the most part. I enjoy doing all the content. The exploration missions were not all they could have been, but I liked them for various reasons.
there is a lot of content i dont like but i dont go around asking for it to be removed could name you off a list of stuff but i wont
I'm not sure what to replace the cluster missions with, they took a few minutes each and if near the end I would get a PvE mission starting I didn't mind quitting them.
Are we expected to quit a episode a few seconds before the end because the PvE countdown is about to expire? After all most episodes are not throw away when you've played almost all the way through.
The cluster missions served a purpose, fillers, now we won't have fillers just a wait or a mission that you've played before to death.
Ohh and on a personal note newbies getting lost in a cluster..........press 'm' or just do nothing and the ship will ask to warp at the edge of the map!!.....so the game has to be dumb down to that level!!
Where ever you go, there you are.......
Join The Space Invaders,..... Federation and KDF fleets.
Except for btran dailies does anyone actually use the explore zones for anything at level 50? It takes like 20 hours to get to level 50. Most of the explore zones are just 1 visit and never going back before you hit 50 and have no reason to go back. And since no one really does crafting even farming the zones for material was pointless.
Except for btran dailies does anyone actually use the explore zones for anything at level 50? It takes like 20 hours to get to level 50. Most of the explore zones are just 1 visit and never going back before you hit 50 and have no reason to go back. And since no one really does crafting even farming the zones for material was pointless.
pointless whining basically, that was horribly outdated content that more often than not, tended to repeat constantly along of the lines of "destroy 5 ships, beam inside facility and kill 6 groups of enemies, scan 5 objects, deliver aid to a planet(basically get near it and give like 10 medical supplies)".
this isn't exploration.
i only found 1 mission ever in exploration systems that truly felt unique in b'tran, which was a mission in which you found an alien lifeform(i think its from TOS), that had some relation to dreams, and tended to attack children or something, and you had to deal with them, i don't think that mission was random, since it had some unique dialog.
b'tran was the only exploration cluster that seemed to have non-random missions rarely, beyond that, the rest is rubbish.
Except for btran dailies does anyone actually use the explore zones for anything at level 50? It takes like 20 hours to get to level 50. Most of the explore zones are just 1 visit and never going back before you hit 50 and have no reason to go back. And since no one really does crafting even farming the zones for material was pointless.
The same can be said for story missions. You out level them just as quickly. And people really only rerun specific ones that offer specific rewards. No one's really going back and rerunning an episode that offers a green Pollyalloy Weave armor once they level past it.
Yet instead of removing that content, they've been rewriting it.
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The fact that not everyone can afford more then $15.00 for internet does not mean they should not have access to gaming.
You are the guy who stated you only make $686.00 a month. I am amazed at how you can seem to afford the best PC, best internet, and an LTS. The country you live in must have a dirt-cheap CoL.
dont worry about how i spend my money and its 721 tyvm and i miss read you post for that my bad but lets be honest here you may as well say its one of the reason they are pulling exploration missions for them big downloads between streaming and downloading games i go over a 100GB a month
system Lord Baal is dead
The only reason I ever go into an Exploration Cluster is to earn my Daily Dilithium. Then I get right out.
They just removed it, didn't replace it with anything.
Expansion by it's nature is supposed to expand the game, not take the place of something else.
We should get exploration back (improved would be great) AND the expansion. Not either or.
system Lord Baal is dead
My point was a for a guy who states to make so little money he seems to have the best of everything. That just seems odd to me. He is either living in a country with a low CoL or he has roommates or other people eating some of his living expenses.
man you seem worried how i spend my money are you writing a book on me?
as janeway told Harry you worry too much its turning you grey
btw for your book my net is 40$ a month
system Lord Baal is dead
Expansion =/= replacement
ex·pand
/ikˈspand/
verb
verb: expand; 3rd person present: expands; past tense: expanded; past participle: expanded; gerund or present participle: expanding
become or make larger or more extensive
re·place
[ri-pleys] Show IPA
verb (used with object), re·placed, re·plac·ing.
1.
to assume the former role, position
I will stand by my point: removing seldom played and poorly conceived content and replacing it a couple of months later with a new end-game system is only a benefit to the game.
This is classic gaming forum. People have been complaining about the uselessness of Exploration Clusters for a long time, but the moment Cryptic agrees everyone jumps up and down saying how important it is to the game.
system Lord Baal is dead
Refuting your say called points are easy in fact, just tiresome.
I ain't going to change your mind, you have already got it made up that PWE does no wrong.
I am a dissatisfied customer and I WILL voice my concern in the format available to me and stop purchasing anything until the decisions make a turn for what I would view as positive.
What you do not seem to understand is that I could not care less about PWE. What I care about is people intentionally stating incorrect information to try and make their point. There are far too many: "I do not like it so it must be a wrong decision that will ruin the game" posters.
system Lord Baal is dead
For the most part, those of us complaining about the uselessness of the clusters were asking Cryptic to improve them. I'm not going to speak for anyone else here, but that is exactly why I'm ticked off.
Look at it this way: suppose that, after years of saying that PvP would get some serious love eventually, the devs announced that they were removing PvP completely because it was so shoddy and not enough people play it to make new PvP features worth while.
Despite years of saying that PvP is broken and unbalanced, would the PvP community's outrage come as any surprise? Or seem in any way unjustified?
Same thing.
plz do not eat me alive KDF only trying to make a point :P
system Lord Baal is dead
think that list alot out of date seeing last time it was updated was 2010/10/06 and look more like change than anything
system Lord Baal is dead
new you was going to go their Zul'Gurub, formerly a 20-man raid instance for level 60 players, has returned as a heroic-only 5-player dungeon for level 85 players.
out of date
how about this you agree with the Dev on their absurd reasons for removing content and you stand with them i dont and nothing you show or say will change that like nothing i say or show you will change you so lets leave it at that
system Lord Baal is dead
I contributed to the old "Improved Exploration" thread you started. That is how I remember your name!
Good ideas in there, stuff I hope the dev team takes a look at.
True but they where random, unexpected and sometimes comical....
As far as I'm understand this removes the only random missions in the game, all other missions are repeated, patrols, episodes, even the foundry is a finite amount.....
If newbies where getting lost, rank gate it, it you didn't want us to farm crafting material and didn't want the hassle of removing it make the drop chance the same as a lock box (.25%),,,!
If they where substandard then what's next most if not all the patrol missions are based on the same template, are we removing them?
There's talk of a replacement coming but when (concrete times not speculation please), what we DO know is that they are being removed and they will be no replacement at the time of removal.
So now I either sit at a space dock waiting for a PvE queue to form up, or replay an already played episode. Funny thing is before I would use the time waiting for the PvE queues to run around a cluster doing meaningless missions which kept me occupied in the game (and earning 1440 Dill at the same time). Now I queue wait, get bored of waiting (i.e. today 'The Big Dig' Daily average wait 9 minutes...) play something else...
Join The Space Invaders,..... Federation and KDF fleets.
Agreed for the most part. I enjoy doing all the content. The exploration missions were not all they could have been, but I liked them for various reasons.
there is a lot of content i dont like but i dont go around asking for it to be removed could name you off a list of stuff but i wont
system Lord Baal is dead
Are we expected to quit a episode a few seconds before the end because the PvE countdown is about to expire? After all most episodes are not throw away when you've played almost all the way through.
The cluster missions served a purpose, fillers, now we won't have fillers just a wait or a mission that you've played before to death.
Ohh and on a personal note newbies getting lost in a cluster..........press 'm' or just do nothing and the ship will ask to warp at the edge of the map!!.....so the game has to be dumb down to that level!!
Join The Space Invaders,..... Federation and KDF fleets.
Most of that is just stuff that's been changed. I mean, Stratholme is on that list.
pointless whining basically, that was horribly outdated content that more often than not, tended to repeat constantly along of the lines of "destroy 5 ships, beam inside facility and kill 6 groups of enemies, scan 5 objects, deliver aid to a planet(basically get near it and give like 10 medical supplies)".
this isn't exploration.
i only found 1 mission ever in exploration systems that truly felt unique in b'tran, which was a mission in which you found an alien lifeform(i think its from TOS), that had some relation to dreams, and tended to attack children or something, and you had to deal with them, i don't think that mission was random, since it had some unique dialog.
b'tran was the only exploration cluster that seemed to have non-random missions rarely, beyond that, the rest is rubbish.
Words can not sufficiently explain the level of surprise I am experiencing right now at your revelation.
The only bigger surprise than the crafting revamp news is the fact there are apparently a whole bunch of players who liked Star Cluster missions.
The same can be said for story missions. You out level them just as quickly. And people really only rerun specific ones that offer specific rewards. No one's really going back and rerunning an episode that offers a green Pollyalloy Weave armor once they level past it.
Yet instead of removing that content, they've been rewriting it.