I have to say thank google and Eradicator that there are plugins I can use to make these forums bearable, I have to use 2 now to stay sane. I am however expecting them to cry foul and ban these plugins saying that its interfering with their artistic integrity.
I think that would be like a television show demanding that viewers should never adjust the contrast of the TVs. It was fuzzy, so we improved the picture so we could watch it.
I have to say thank google and Eradicator that there are plugins I can use to make these forums bearable, I have to use 2 now to stay sane. I am however expecting them to cry foul and ban these plugins saying that its interfering with their artistic integrity.
They had better not. Eradicator made the forums usable again. PWE should hire this guy, or at least take notes.
"Cinderblock Hell" is not artistic. It is punishment. :mad:
no headaches. but i am having a hard time reading the font. it is too scrunched together. I dont know much about fonts. but the old one was much easier to read.
You can change that on your end. Whichever browser you're using should have some font controls.
Why do companies always think they do a good job changing something which doesnt require change? Its a myth that this would do any good, it only creates anger just like we seen in the game in the past with all the unnecessary changes they once applied.
*Sigh*
Installling this theme to compensate for my strained eyes.
Better prepare a hack to circumvent ARC once it gets mandatory to launch STO.
I was in the same boat. The new "Cinderblock Hell" color scheme, and the smaller fonts gave me headaches after a few minutes of reading. I don't have any issues with other websites, or fora (this is the only forum that I am active in).
All planned design/ art changes are now complete (new header, text color changes, etc.). We'll continue to pass along your feedback in this thread, but a lot of the feedback before this post was provided while changes were being made -- feel free to post your most up-to-date feedback after this post. Please be clear and concise in your post, in addition to being constructive, that way your feedback is heard.
Would really like a Dystopia MMO, but this was just too much. Now using the plug-in, and very happily so!
It was comparably harder to process the text, due to increased noise. I don't need a doctor to understand why increased noise might lead to something other than a clean experience. There are many other forums out there, after all. Some doing it right, others not so much.
Sorry Methuselah, but my 47-year-old 20/70 on one side and 20/800 on the other eyes don't like this forum color scheme whether you think they do or not. Now take your Geritol and take your nap. :P
Wotsat Sonny? Can't quite hear you. Get orf my lawn.
I'm actually liking parts of this redesign, but there could be better contrast on some of the colors. Objectively I think the old style was worse, although I did find some things easier to read on it, and I think the old background was much better.
IMO, bump up font sizes a bit and maybe use slightly darker shade of gray for the post BGs. I'm happy that the posts no longer blend into the background. Also, replace those default button images, they look terrible on a dark BG, they were obviously intended for white. Get an artist to do some Trek-themed ones!
On the contrary, it seems very apt. I see an outstretched hand holding a Federation phaser about to fire. I find it refreshingly honest and candid of the state of the Federation in the scope of STO. Very appropriate and cards face up on the table-ish.
Edit: It may also be construed as one courageous Starfleet officers mission to stave off an entire fleet of Klingon ships armed only with a single standard issue Starfleet phaser. Very heroic.
Meh, just seems like more of the same rehash of what we've seen before. I don't think its bad - just not much "wow" factor to it. How about an alien instead of a human up there? An Andorian? A Bolian? Something - I mean come on, you have a huge selection of Trek races to choose from.
I'm actually liking parts of this redesign, but there could be better contrast on some of the colors. Objectively I think the old style was worse, although I did find some things easier to read on it, and I think the old background was much better.
IMO, bump up font sizes a bit and maybe use slightly darker shade of gray for the post BGs. I'm happy that the posts no longer blend into the background. Also, replace those default button images, they look terrible on a dark BG, they were obviously intended for white. Get an artist to do some Trek-themed ones!
Further plans include turning "smilies" into "Facial Representation of Apathy" and "Facial Representation of Despair" through indoctrination, and "behavior modification treatments".
I really encourage you to install the official firefox or chrome plug-in, and then install the player-made style for viewing this web site. As someone who has struggled with bad eyesight since birth, this fix was a godsend.
Aye, been watching the chatter about this. Count me as one of the, to quote Stan Lee, true believers now.
I pretty much love everything about the new art look and feel, looks very sharp and clean, the only thing I'd like to see is a Bigger Star Trek Online Logo along with the Handsome Phaser guy's head be shown completely in addition to the beautiful Vulcan Lady.
It looks better now, easier to look at. Cleaner with things separated better. If the font seems too small use ctrl+your mouse wheel to zoom in.
Which is a great idea but not perfect, the text doesn't scroll with the browser window size but with the original forum margins. Still be better if they increased the size a bit. Plenty of room for a little bigger size with no adverse impact.
Respectfully, it's Cryptics job to fix this not mine. I'm not installing a third web browser just to run the STO forum.
You're not necessarily wrong, but if you're willfully refusing a perfectly functional fix for a problem at hand, it's kind of your own fault that you continue to suffer the problem.
Still some of the text is better and I CAN now tell what page I'm on.. Thanks eradicator84! You rock!!
Strange. Doesn't look like my theme is really even taking affect in that screen shot. Is it enabled?
Be sure that you don't have any other Stylish themes running for the sto forums via this plugin (or others) the CSS from multiple styles can clash and you will get odd results.
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I think that would be like a television show demanding that viewers should never adjust the contrast of the TVs. It was fuzzy, so we improved the picture so we could watch it.
They had better not. Eradicator made the forums usable again. PWE should hire this guy, or at least take notes.
"Cinderblock Hell" is not artistic. It is punishment. :mad:
You can change that on your end. Whichever browser you're using should have some font controls.
*Sigh*
Installling this theme to compensate for my strained eyes.
Better prepare a hack to circumvent ARC once it gets mandatory to launch STO.
This guy came up with a great solution.
I use this now, and it's made everything MUCH better. It's even better than it was before the "Cinderblock Hell".
Thank you eradicator84 for your work on this!
It was comparably harder to process the text, due to increased noise. I don't need a doctor to understand why increased noise might lead to something other than a clean experience. There are many other forums out there, after all. Some doing it right, others not so much.
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Wotsat Sonny? Can't quite hear you. Get orf my lawn.
IMO, bump up font sizes a bit and maybe use slightly darker shade of gray for the post BGs. I'm happy that the posts no longer blend into the background. Also, replace those default button images, they look terrible on a dark BG, they were obviously intended for white. Get an artist to do some Trek-themed ones!
Meh, just seems like more of the same rehash of what we've seen before. I don't think its bad - just not much "wow" factor to it. How about an alien instead of a human up there? An Andorian? A Bolian? Something - I mean come on, you have a huge selection of Trek races to choose from.
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I installed the Stylish addon and the theme but it only partially worked for me:
http://s12.postimg.org/z8xr2k7vh/screenshot_54.jpg
Still some of the text is better and I CAN now tell what page I'm on.. Thanks eradicator84! You rock!!
^^ This, could not have said it better myself.
What you now see is the result.
Further plans include turning "smilies" into "Facial Representation of Apathy" and "Facial Representation of Despair" through indoctrination, and "behavior modification treatments".
Use the plugin and style if you want to be sane again...
Yes, it's Arc's fault. PWE is homogenizing everything to ugly blandness so all their customers are equally unhappy.
Aye, been watching the chatter about this. Count me as one of the, to quote Stan Lee, true believers now.
Awesome, so pretty now!
I'd give you a hug but your avatar made me rethink it.
Overall... Great Update...
Which is a great idea but not perfect, the text doesn't scroll with the browser window size but with the original forum margins. Still be better if they increased the size a bit. Plenty of room for a little bigger size with no adverse impact.
You're not necessarily wrong, but if you're willfully refusing a perfectly functional fix for a problem at hand, it's kind of your own fault that you continue to suffer the problem.
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maybe but using erads solution has kicked that can of silliness to the side, im using it and its far better then that ugly grey colour scheme.
Been around since Dec 2010 on STO and bought LTS in Apr 2013 for STO.
Slightly darker may blend in more.
Strange. Doesn't look like my theme is really even taking affect in that screen shot. Is it enabled?
Be sure that you don't have any other Stylish themes running for the sto forums via this plugin (or others) the CSS from multiple styles can clash and you will get odd results.
Been around since Dec 2010 on STO and bought LTS in Apr 2013 for STO.
Trying to see if I can get the lines on the left and right sides of posts to show. Left is easy, getting the right side to show is proving harder.
Will post with update when it's done (or I give up on lines, lol)