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    upper4dscoutupper4dscout Member Posts: 220 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    saihung423 wrote: »
    I think the things we fear from advanced alien species a lot of times are projections of the things we fear about ourselves.

    Our violent and militaristic social nature, our individual and collective quest for power and wealth, and the enslavement (worldwide, not just US) in the past and present of those we consider weak and beneath us.

    I think many people fear the unknown.

    The good news is that most people believe in extraterrestrials.
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    We shall not cease from exploration, and the end of all our exploring will be to arrive where

    we started and know the place for the first time. T.S. Eliot
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    therealmttherealmt Member Posts: 428 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Even if we find them, it will most likely not be possible to make contact with them, or even communicate if we do reach them.
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    upper4dscoutupper4dscout Member Posts: 220 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    therealmt wrote: »
    Even if we find them, it will most likely not be possible to make contact with them, or even communicate if we do reach them.

    The ETs speak all languages. - Handheld Universal Translator -

    BTW, the iPhone 6 should be getting close!!!

    64 bit dual core microprocessor! Not bad at all.
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    We shall not cease from exploration, and the end of all our exploring will be to arrive where

    we started and know the place for the first time. T.S. Eliot
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    thegalaxy31thegalaxy31 Member Posts: 1,211 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Everybody get glasses of water!
    I would love to visit this star in-game...or maybe this one!
    Won't SOMEONE please think of the CHILDREN?!
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    upper4dscoutupper4dscout Member Posts: 220 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Everybody get glasses of water!

    It looks like we are very close to building the Lunar 1 Colony on our moon.

    Helium-3 and tourism will work there.

    Might as well put a Four Seasons Hotel there also.

    Can i go swimming in a pool with only 1/6th gravity?
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    We shall not cease from exploration, and the end of all our exploring will be to arrive where

    we started and know the place for the first time. T.S. Eliot
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    markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,231 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    It looks like we are very close to building the Lunar 1 Colony on our moon.

    Helium-3 and tourism will work there.

    Might as well put a Four Seasons Hotel there also.

    Can i go swimming in a pool with only 1/6th gravity?
    I wouldn't call it "swimming"... More like floating...
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    markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,231 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    One interesting challenge could be: What if the hypothetical alien culture uses signals we could pick up, but encrypts them? A very well encrypted signal could be practically indistinguishable from random noise. (I suppose theoretically you could devise an encryption algorithm that creates a repeating pattern that is independent of the actual content of the message, but why bother?).
    They might encrypt them because they don't want anyone to find them, or it just didn't occur to them to use these signals to notify other races of their existence, and just worry about their own privacy concerns.
    This is a good point since a large percentage of the signals emanating from Earth ARE encrypted. Why? well... we don't want other HUMANS to listen to our conversations....

    As for entanglement... My (possibly faulty) understanding is that it does appear to allow information to travel faster than light. BUT the catch is that you have to get one half of the particle pair to the other end first and the particle doesn't travel faster than light.
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    upper4dscoutupper4dscout Member Posts: 220 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    I wouldn't call it "swimming"... More like floating...

    Okay then, we could put a switch by the pool.

    Turn the artificial gravity 9.8 m/sec squared (Earth) on and off.

    If i run really fast maybe i could run across the swimming pool ! LOL
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    We shall not cease from exploration, and the end of all our exploring will be to arrive where

    we started and know the place for the first time. T.S. Eliot
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    jonsillsjonsills Member Posts: 10,398 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Best recreation for a lunar hotel was posited by Robert Heinlein in his short story, "The Menace From Earth". Make sure there's a large space, several stories high; there may be existing caves under the lunar surface for this. Pressurize this space, to slightly higher than Earth sea level. Now strap on a pair of wings on your arms, and learn to flap. At 1/6g, you can fly!

    Scout, you need to stop reading bad sci-fi and the writings of those people who confuse aliens and Jesus. It's polluting your brain, man.
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    upper4dscoutupper4dscout Member Posts: 220 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    In addition to a Lunar 1 Colony, we could put a few penal colonies up there.

    Where would the prisoners escape to?
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    We shall not cease from exploration, and the end of all our exploring will be to arrive where

    we started and know the place for the first time. T.S. Eliot
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    starkaosstarkaos Member Posts: 11,556 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    capnkirk4 wrote: »
    What about the Sweet Transvestites from the planet Transylvania? Are they part of the Space TRIBBLE Axis? Seriously, if aliens were real, the human race would be in trouble. Oops... hold on... got to go, freakin' Bigfoot showed up early for dinner.

    That jerk. He stood me up again. He was supposed to come to my house for dinner.
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    upper4dscoutupper4dscout Member Posts: 220 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    capnkirk4 wrote: »
    What about the Sweet Transvestites from the planet Transylvania? Are they part of the Space TRIBBLE Axis? Seriously, if aliens were real, the human race would be in trouble. Oops... hold on... got to go, freakin' Bigfoot showed up early for dinner.

    ETs are real but we were saved by the good ETs (Andromeda Council).

    The Arcturians have the most powerful fleet in the galaxy.

    Find Arcturus on Stellarium.

    Its the Ashtar Fleet.
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    We shall not cease from exploration, and the end of all our exploring will be to arrive where

    we started and know the place for the first time. T.S. Eliot
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    ryan218ryan218 Member Posts: 36,106 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    ETs are real but we were saved by the good ETs (Andromeda Council).

    The Arcturians have the most powerful fleet in the galaxy.

    Find Arcturus on Stellarium.

    Its the Ashtar Fleet.

    Just so I can rest easy, are you joking or do you honestly believe that?
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    upper4dscoutupper4dscout Member Posts: 220 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    ryan218 wrote: »
    Just so I can rest easy, are you joking or do you honestly believe that?

    This is not Science Fiction.

    ALL ETs use beamships to travel very quickly around the Milky Way Galaxy.

    They are cigar shaped. Try a Google Search for : Cigar Shaped UFO and watch what happens.

    They try a Google Search for Draco Reptilian: Press Enter.

    Connect the dots.


    Truth Be Told: They're Here !

    Just ask Bob Lazar.
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    We shall not cease from exploration, and the end of all our exploring will be to arrive where

    we started and know the place for the first time. T.S. Eliot
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    upper4dscoutupper4dscout Member Posts: 220 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    This link may help convince you.

    Click the arrows. Look for the Pleiadra Biosphere.

    http://www.slideshare.net/Tolec/andromeda-council-biospheres
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    We shall not cease from exploration, and the end of all our exploring will be to arrive where

    we started and know the place for the first time. T.S. Eliot
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    iconiansiconians Member Posts: 6,987 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    This is not Science Fiction.

    ALL ETs use beamships to travel very quickly around the Milky Way Galaxy.

    They are cigar shaped. Try a Google Search for : Cigar Shaped UFO and watch what happens.

    They try a Google Search for Draco Reptilian: Press Enter.

    Connect the dots.


    Truth Be Told: They're Here !

    Just ask Bob Lazar.
    This link may help convince you.

    Click the arrows. Look for the Pleiadra Biosphere.

    http://www.slideshare.net/Tolec/andromeda-council-biospheres


    Malcolm Reynolds is the only one capable of communicating what I'm feeling right now after reading that.
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    upper4dscoutupper4dscout Member Posts: 220 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Lets start with something more down to Earth.

    Transparent Aluminium : It's made by a company called Surmet.

    We could use these as windows in a real starship. It has armor characteristics.

    Click on the link:

    http://www.surmet.com
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    We shall not cease from exploration, and the end of all our exploring will be to arrive where

    we started and know the place for the first time. T.S. Eliot
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    upper4dscoutupper4dscout Member Posts: 220 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    ryan218 wrote: »
    Just so I can rest easy, are you joking or do you honestly believe that?
    iconians wrote: »
    capnkirk4 wrote: »
    Sure they're real. And reality is synonymous with beauty, in that they're both in the eye of the beholder. Have you been audited? How far across the bridge are you?

    No they don't. Zur, and the Ko-Dan armada are the most powerful fleet in the galaxy, everybody knows that.

    The real starships and the ones here on Star Trek are very close.

    Scotty just needed to install some Crystalline Fusion Generators and a good cloaking device.
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    We shall not cease from exploration, and the end of all our exploring will be to arrive where

    we started and know the place for the first time. T.S. Eliot
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    jonsillsjonsills Member Posts: 10,398 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    This is not Science Fiction.
    No, it's not. To qualify for the name "Science Fiction", it has to be based in observable science, with maybe one or two "what-if" technologies.

    What you're spinning here is bad sci-fi.

    (To illustrate the difference, I turn to L. Sprague de Camp:

    Gentle Reader, you often ask, "Why
    Isn't 'SF' the same as 'sci-fi'?"
    Well, you see, there's a fine line
    Between Robert Heinlein
    And "Son of the Two-Headed Fly".
    )
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    upper4dscoutupper4dscout Member Posts: 220 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    jonsills wrote: »
    No, it's not. To qualify for the name "Science Fiction", it has to be based in observable science, with maybe one or two "what-if" technologies.

    What you're spinning here is bad sci-fi.

    (To illustrate the difference, I turn to L. Sprague de Camp:

    Gentle Reader, you often ask, "Why
    Isn't 'SF' the same as 'sci-fi'?"
    Well, you see, there's a fine line
    Between Robert Heinlein
    And "Son of the Two-Headed Fly".
    )
    Bad Sci Fi ?

    You should head over to Wikipedia so you can make sense.

    Seek The Truth

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helium-3
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    We shall not cease from exploration, and the end of all our exploring will be to arrive where

    we started and know the place for the first time. T.S. Eliot
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    upper4dscoutupper4dscout Member Posts: 220 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    As far as detecting ETs, it looks the Grays have been abducting Americans.

    Click Link Below:

    http://www.ufocasebook.com/Allagash.html
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    We shall not cease from exploration, and the end of all our exploring will be to arrive where

    we started and know the place for the first time. T.S. Eliot
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    upper4dscoutupper4dscout Member Posts: 220 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    capnkirk4 wrote: »
    Hmmm... How do CFGs work? Are we talking warp space, or hyperspace? Because travelin' through hyperspace ain't like dustin' crops, boy. You could fly right through a star, or bounce to close to a supernova, and that would end your trip, real quick.

    Who are the aliens that spray chlorine gas? Are they space TRIBBLE, too?

    Well, it's a lot like the Star Trek Dilithium Crystals.

    Think piezoelectricity. It is explained on Wikipedia.

    It generates DC Power but then you need to run it through an inverter for

    AC power generation and then distribution throughout the starship.

    Crystalline Fusion Generators are better than Helium-3 power generation.
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    We shall not cease from exploration, and the end of all our exploring will be to arrive where

    we started and know the place for the first time. T.S. Eliot
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    upper4dscoutupper4dscout Member Posts: 220 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    capnkirk4 wrote: »
    I know the Weiners. I grew up with them. They've admitted to faking this.

    Not a fake.

    They were put under hypnosis.

    The Zeta Reticulans abducted them. (The Grays)

    It's not just them. Thousands of Americans were abducted to create a hybrid race.
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    We shall not cease from exploration, and the end of all our exploring will be to arrive where

    we started and know the place for the first time. T.S. Eliot
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    ryan218ryan218 Member Posts: 36,106 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Not a fake.

    They were put under hypnosis.

    The Zeta Reticulans abducted them. (The Grays)

    It's not just them. Thousands of Americans were abducted to create a hybrid race.

    Right...

    The doctors will see you now.
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    upper4dscoutupper4dscout Member Posts: 220 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    ryan218 wrote: »
    Right...

    The doctors will see you now.

    Open your mind.

    Did you read the Allagash Abduction link ???


    Be honest with yourself.

    The Grays are here.
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    We shall not cease from exploration, and the end of all our exploring will be to arrive where

    we started and know the place for the first time. T.S. Eliot
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    kojirohellfirekojirohellfire Member Posts: 1,606 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Open your mind.

    Did you read the Allagash Abduction link ???


    Be honest with yourself.

    The Grays are here.

    While I'm a bit of a UFO/alien abduction aficionado, I have to say that a lot of the stuff you are spouting is RUBBISH! It's people like you that make a laughing stock of the entire field of UFOlogy. Because of this ridiculous TRIBBLE about Draco shapeshifting reptilian space TRIBBLE and "Lord Ashtar" who drinks tea with Jesus that no scientist will ever take UFOlogy seriously again in a million centuries.

    In some respects, I'd say that UFOlogy died with Hynek, rest his soul. Vallee was in the right when he chose to disassociate himself with modern UFOlogy, because most of it has become pure rancid ****.
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