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  • svindal777svindal777 Member Posts: 856 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. Had trouble getting on early in the morning. When I got on, played for over an hour without a problem, then went to change character and got disconnected and couldn't get back on for several minutes.
    Well excuse me for having enormous flaws that I don't work on.
  • capemike4capemike4 Member Posts: 394 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    dirlettia wrote: »
    I tried logging in and it timed me out so I just logged in a second time and was fine. I am guessing the snow over in America must be causing a few communications issues here then so a little persistence is required.

    This, plus the solar flares could also be contributing....

    Was playing last night, several hours before this thread was started, and noticed the game sputtering to start(I personally have no grudge against ARC, but noticed it was, for the 1st time since I've started playing STO, that it[ARC] was taking it's sweet time starting), but once it was in, everything was fine, save for one time switching sectors, I ran into a delay of nearly 90 seconds.

    Can we just blame it on the Breen and be done with it? :)
    When in doubt...Gravity Well TO THE FACE!! :D
  • pwebranflakespwebranflakes Member Posts: 7,741
    edited January 2014
    Hi Captains,

    All looks good here from internal and external lines on the west coast of the US, and from all our monitoring tools -- there is no delay logging in and switching characters. We believe this to be a regional ISP issue occurring across the Atlantic. You can use the info in this thread to find the hops where you are running into an issue: http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=225155

    Hope it resolves for you soon!

    Cheers,

    Brandon =/\=
  • mirrorchaosmirrorchaos Member Posts: 9,844 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    (No, regional ISP issue across the Atlantic)? care to translate that?

    edit: im in the uk, no issue on my end to cryptic server.
    T6 Miranda Hero Ship FTW.
    Been around since Dec 2010 on STO and bought LTS in Apr 2013 for STO.
  • perfectcrypticperfectcryptic Member Posts: 266 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    It is not fixed. Been happening all day. Just need to wait a minute or two then it magically works.

    I just started playing again now the calendar is fixed, wow a new issue...
  • pwebranflakespwebranflakes Member Posts: 7,741
    edited January 2014
    (No, regional ISP issue across the Atlantic)? care to translate that?

    edit: im in the uk, no issue on my end to cryptic server.

    Some players across the Atlantic (from us; various locations) seem to be running into an issue -- we would imagine that not all are affected, it depends on your provider and how they route you to us.

    Cheers,

    Brandon =/\=
  • species1977species1977 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    Hi Captains,

    All looks good here from internal and external lines on the west coast of the US, and from all our monitoring tools -- there is no delay logging in and switching characters. We believe this to be a regional ISP issue occurring across the Atlantic. You can use the info in this thread to find the hops where you are running into an issue: http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=225155

    Hope it resolves for you soon!

    Cheers,

    Brandon =/\=


    so if the problem is across the Atlantic, it means that rest of the world can't play, and only Americans can. So the only solution is that you take another server from Eu and you will not have a problem such as this one.
  • captaingalaxy1captaingalaxy1 Member Posts: 202 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    Having the same problem aswell
    "Omega Class will prevail she cannot be defeated!"
  • svindal777svindal777 Member Posts: 856 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    Some players across the Atlantic (from us; various locations) seem to be running into an issue -- we would imagine that not all are affected, it depends on your provider and how they route you to us.

    Cheers,

    Brandon =/\=

    Not just across the Atlantic, i'm in Canada and having problems as well.
    Well excuse me for having enormous flaws that I don't work on.
  • mirrorchaosmirrorchaos Member Posts: 9,844 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    Some players across the Atlantic (from us; various locations) seem to be running into an issue -- we would imagine that not all are affected, it depends on your provider and how they route you to us.

    Cheers,

    Brandon =/\=

    okay, thanks branflakes.
    T6 Miranda Hero Ship FTW.
    Been around since Dec 2010 on STO and bought LTS in Apr 2013 for STO.
  • cajalacajala Member Posts: 23 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    Hi Captains,

    All looks good here from internal and external lines on the west coast of the US, and from all our monitoring tools -- there is no delay logging in and switching characters. We believe this to be a regional ISP issue occurring across the Atlantic. You can use the info in this thread to find the hops where you are running into an issue: http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=225155

    Hope it resolves for you soon!

    Cheers,

    Brandon =/\=

    I wonder why my trace starts having timeouts on your network then?
  • zanirorilyzanirorily Member Posts: 14 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    Hello,

    since Season 8 i am having problems after i login the first time. I do select a character and when i enter the game all the game slows down. I have to wait a minute or two until all things are loaded and then the game runs pretty well. No further lag. And i have that each time i do restart the game. Whenever i only change a character i do not have this kind of problem.

    It disturbs me while playing and cant think of its my card or pc. Although i dont have these issues on an older an slower laptop. I play in FULL HD, have an Nvidia GTX650 with 2 GB graphic ram and a I7-3770 with 3.4 GHz CPU additional 8 GB ram. I played around with graphic settings and swap file settings to no avail.

    Has anyone an idea what else i can try or if there are game issues on some PC requirements?
    All drivers are up to date and problem just occurred since season 8.

    I read about others having in game lag, which i do not - after the first few minutes. Would appreciate if anyone has an idea or even solution at hand. Thanks in advance.
  • captaingalaxy1captaingalaxy1 Member Posts: 202 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    Just come back after 30mins ish, problem is still there.

    Cryptic/PWE can we have an official response on this problem?:confused:
    "Omega Class will prevail she cannot be defeated!"
  • cajalacajala Member Posts: 23 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    here its obvious though

    Microsoft Windows [Version 6.3.9600]
    (c) 2013 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

    C:\WINDOWS\system32>tracert 208.95.184.81

    Tracing route to 208.95.184.81 over a maximum of 30 hops

    1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.178.1
    2 7 ms 8 ms 6 ms 10.244.144.1
    3 7 ms 7 ms 6 ms land-rc0001-ds102-vl202.core.as9143.net [213.51.
    148.194]
    4 18 ms 14 ms 9 ms tb-rc0001-cr102-ae10-0.core.as9143.net [213.51.1
    57.201]
    5 11 ms 10 ms 14 ms asd-tr0610-cr101-ae5-0.core.as9143.net [213.51.1
    58.154]
    6 12 ms 11 ms 11 ms adm-b5-link.telia.net [80.239.167.229]
    7 15 ms 11 ms 12 ms cogent-ic-140551-adm-b5.c.telia.net [213.248.93.
    90]
    8 48 ms 47 ms 47 ms be2302.mpd21.ams03.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.74
    .97]
    9 19 ms 19 ms 24 ms be2182.ccr21.lpl01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.77
    .246]
    10 102 ms * 102 ms be2387.ccr22.bos01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.44
    .165]
    11 * * 100 ms te4-4.ccr01.bos06.atlas.cogentco.com [66.28.4.42
    ]
    12 111 ms 98 ms 99 ms 38.111.40.114
    13 * * * Request timed out.
    14 * * * Request timed out.
    15 * * * Request timed out.
    16 * * * Request timed out.
    17 * * * Request timed out.
    18 * * * Request timed out.
    19 * * * Request timed out.
    20 * * * Request timed out.
    21 * * * Request timed out.
    22 * * * Request timed out.
    23 * * * Request timed out.
    24 * * * Request timed out.
    25 * * * Request timed out.
    26 * * * Request timed out.
    27 * * * Request timed out.
    28 * * * Request timed out.
    29 * * * Request timed out.
    30 * * * Request timed out.

    Trace complete.

    Microsoft Windows [Version 6.3.9600]
    (c) 2013 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

    C:\WINDOWS\system32>tracert 208.95.184.81

    Tracing route to 208.95.184.81 over a maximum of 30 hops

    1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.178.1
    2 7 ms 8 ms 6 ms 10.244.144.1
    3 7 ms 7 ms 6 ms land-rc0001-ds102-vl202.core.as9143.net [213.51.
    148.194]
    4 18 ms 14 ms 9 ms tb-rc0001-cr102-ae10-0.core.as9143.net [213.51.1
    57.201]
    5 11 ms 10 ms 14 ms asd-tr0610-cr101-ae5-0.core.as9143.net [213.51.1
    58.154]
    6 12 ms 11 ms 11 ms adm-b5-link.telia.net [80.239.167.229]
    7 15 ms 11 ms 12 ms cogent-ic-140551-adm-b5.c.telia.net [213.248.93.
    90]
    8 48 ms 47 ms 47 ms be2302.mpd21.ams03.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.74
    .97]
    9 19 ms 19 ms 24 ms be2182.ccr21.lpl01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.77
    .246]
    10 102 ms * 102 ms be2387.ccr22.bos01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.44
    .165]
    11 * * 100 ms te4-4.ccr01.bos06.atlas.cogentco.com [66.28.4.42
    ]
    12 111 ms 98 ms 99 ms 38.111.40.114
    13 * * * Request timed out.
    14 * * * Request timed out.
    15 * * * Request timed out.
    16 * * * Request timed out.
    17 * * * Request timed out.
    18 * * * Request timed out.
    19 * * * Request timed out.
    20 * * * Request timed out.
    21 * * * Request timed out.
    22 * * * Request timed out.
    23 * * * Request timed out.
    24 * * * Request timed out.
    25 * * * Request timed out.
    26 * * * Request timed out.
    27 * * * Request timed out.
    28 * * * Request timed out.
    29 * * * Request timed out.
    30 * * * Request timed out.

    Trace complete.
  • doffingcomradedoffingcomrade Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    Some routers do not return traceroutes and this behavior is normal. It is also not pertinent to this particular issue, which is extremely specific and directly run by Cryptic, as opposed to general regionwide Internet failure.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • cajalacajala Member Posts: 23 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    trace's show they got a problem on their auth servers but they blame it on routing problems overseas...
  • perfectcrypticperfectcryptic Member Posts: 266 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    Hi Captains,

    All looks good here from internal and external lines on the west coast of the US, and from all our monitoring tools -- there is no delay logging in and switching characters. We believe this to be a regional ISP issue occurring across the Atlantic. You can use the info in this thread to find the hops where you are running into an issue: http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=225155

    Hope it resolves for you soon!

    Cheers,

    Brandon =/\=

    Thanks. I hope all the bugs get resolved in the next patch as well.
  • grouchyotakugrouchyotaku Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    Some players across the Atlantic (from us; various locations) seem to be running into an issue -- we would imagine that not all are affected, it depends on your provider and how they route you to us.

    Cheers,

    Brandon =/\=

    Issue isn't limited to Trans-Atlantic connections only, as I have had intermittent issues connecting to the Log-In server from my Northern California Comcast connection this morning...
  • capemike4capemike4 Member Posts: 394 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    Just did a tracert test from here in Chattanooga, TN(fastest internet connections in the U.S. now)...:

    Microsoft Windows [Version 6.3.9600]
    (c) 2013 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.



    Tracing route to patchserver.crypticstudios.com [208.95.185.41]
    over a maximum of 30 hops:

    1 <1 ms 1 ms <1 ms 10.0.0.1
    2 12 ms 9 ms 9 ms 10.216.160.1
    3 8 ms 8 ms 8 ms dtr02dltnga-tge-0-6-0-5.dltn.ga.charter.com [96.
    34.70.140]
    4 11 ms 8 ms 16 ms dtr02clevtn-tge-0-7-0-1.clev.tn.charter.com [96.
    34.71.148]
    5 12 ms 11 ms 10 ms dtr03mavltn-tge-0-7-1-0.mavl.tn.charter.com [96.
    34.68.227]
    6 13 ms 11 ms 14 ms dtr01mavltn-tge-0-6-0-7.mavl.tn.charter.com [96.
    34.69.246]
    7 13 ms 12 ms 12 ms dtr02mrtwtn-tge-0-7-0-0.mrtw.tn.charter.com [96.
    34.71.30]
    8 14 ms 14 ms 14 ms crr01kgpttn-tge-0-7-0-4.kgpt.tn.charter.com [96.
    34.71.28]
    9 17 ms 15 ms 14 ms crr02kgpttn-tge-0-3-0-4.kgpt.tn.charter.com [96.
    34.71.193]
    10 38 ms 19 ms 21 ms crr12spbgsc-tge-0-0-0-1.spbg.sc.charter.com [96.
    34.71.183]
    11 27 ms 22 ms 22 ms bbr01spbgsc-bue-4.spbg.sc.charter.com [96.34.2.5
    0]
    12 23 ms 21 ms 22 ms cha-b1-link.telia.net [213.248.84.145]
    13 32 ms 30 ms 28 ms ash-bb3-link.telia.net [80.91.252.100]
    14 39 ms 28 ms 30 ms ash-b1-link.telia.net [213.155.130.86]
    15 29 ms 30 ms 30 ms te0-3-0-5.ccr41.iad02.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54
    .10.57]
    16 31 ms 32 ms 31 ms be2112.mpd22.dca01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.5.
    234]
    17 78 ms 76 ms 73 ms be2151.mpd22.jfk02.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.40
    .74]
    18 77 ms 78 ms 82 ms be2097.ccr22.bos01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.30
    .118]
    19 73 ms 82 ms 72 ms te3-2.ccr01.bos06.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.46.
    130]
    20 45 ms 52 ms 52 ms 38.111.40.114
    21 44 ms 42 ms 42 ms patchserver2.crypticstudios.com [208.95.185.41]


    Trace complete.

    ============

    No issues here, as far as I can tell....
    When in doubt...Gravity Well TO THE FACE!! :D
  • ghostwolf1054ghostwolf1054 Member Posts: 27 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    I found the 3rd solution in this link to be very helpful

    http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=225155
  • ask4spock1ask4spock1 Member Posts: 135 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    Hi Captains,

    All looks good here from internal and external lines on the west coast of the US, and from all our monitoring tools -- there is no delay logging in and switching characters. We believe this to be a regional ISP issue occurring across the Atlantic. You can use the info in this thread to find the hops where you are running into an issue: http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=225155

    Hope it resolves for you soon!

    Cheers,

    Brandon =/\=



    UMM.... I'm in Idaho, landlocked and closer to the West Coast. I've experienced it twice now while trying to use the switching characters option. It sits there and does nothing till it times out. I have to log completly out of the game and back in to get it to work. Very annoying.


    I go through CenturyLink.:confused:
  • perfectcrypticperfectcryptic Member Posts: 266 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    Im in the EU and have now switched to the US proxy. Changed toons a few times and seems okay now.. I know your in the US but try the US proxy in the launcher options, may be it will take a different route and work??
  • seraphtcseraphtc Member Posts: 26 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    Using a proxy didn't help me at all unfortunately. The problem seems to frequently be with the congentco.com servers as highlighted elsewhere.

    *however*

    Running traces in the background shows sub 100ms responses at each hop, and yet still the server times out when loading a new region.

    This is clearly not just a problem with the route.
  • grouchyotakugrouchyotaku Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    seraphtc wrote: »
    ...

    Running traces in the background shows sub 100ms responses at each hop, and yet still the server times out when loading a new region.

    This is clearly not just a problem with the route.

    Try substituting 'pathping' for the 'tracert' command, and post the results, as network latency isn't the only issue that can effect a TCP/IP connection...
  • macroniusmacronius Member Posts: 2,526
    edited January 2014
    So I patched just now and I can't get past the logo screen with Cryptic text. First time this has ever happened. Was working fine 2 days ago when I logged in and played a couple of toons. Even with server outages, it was able to at least get to the log in screen. No so this time. Tried a few times. Net access is fine. This has got to be one of the most incompetent dev teams in MMO history.

    Well, I guess it makes it easy to kick the STO habit. GG! :rolleyes:
    "With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censored, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably."

    - Judge Aaron Satie
  • cajalacajala Member Posts: 23 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    rob2485 wrote: »
    DOUBTFUL, at least for me. My router is brand new off the shelf. My internet connection is one of the fastest I can get in my area. It is their servers not the routing to get there. They just don't want to admit they have a problem and blame it on REGIONAL routing.

    Fact is two members of my fleet that are on the West Coast USA and are having same problem. One member of my fleet is in the UK he has the same problem. I am on East Coast USA and have same problem.

    Do you see a pattern? I do and as a person who holds a Bachelor Degree in Information Technology with emphasis on Networking Technology, I would say it is their servers.

    They just won't admit it and their fancy mouth piece blames it on routing from ISP's.

    I have to agree it is at cryptic's end. All my traces against the auth server (since we can't reach that) reach 38.111.40.114 then the timeouts start. Who's IP is that you ask?

    IP Address Lookup - Whois by IP Address :
    38.111.40.114


    [Querying whois.arin.net]
    [Redirected to rwhois.cogentco.com:4321]
    [Querying rwhois.cogentco.com]
    [rwhois.cogentco.com]
    %rwhois V-1.5:0010b0:00 rwhois.cogentco.com
    network:ID:NET4-266F28701E
    network:Network-Name:NET4-266F28701E
    network:IP-Network:38.111.40.112/30
    network:Postal-Code:94065
    network:Country:US
    network:State:CA
    network:City:Redwood City, CA
    network:Street-Address:101 Redwood Shores Parkway
    network:Org-Name:Perfect World Entertainment, Inc
    network:Tech-Contact:ZC108-ARIN
    network:Updated:2013-01-04 00:27:08

    %ok


    But yeah cryptic keep denying.
    It's really getting old now. Logging in is like a lottery with huge luck you might log in. But then do a map change and bam d/c and logging back in is impossible. Really cryptic it's time your people get their heads out of this warm wet place and start doing something about it. Because IT IS NOT AT OUR END!!! To many people from all over the world are having problems, when will you finally stop denying???
    I know that I won't drop you even 1 more penny if this is the service we get. You should be ashamed of yourselves treating your customers this way.
  • dammitjimdammitjim Member Posts: 26 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    I tried to login yesterday but the screen froze on the STO image before the character screen. I had to force quit. Today, on another computer, I just waited and it took me to the character screen. I chose mine (I have only one) but couldn't load my location. I tried again and it worked, Earth Spacedock loaded, but immediately I got the red writing about server not responding and it kicked me out. So now I can't do much, it either does not load my location or, if it loads, I can't even move because server's not responding. On both computers I use :(

    If anyone can get past it changing some proxy stuff you might describe in detail how you do it so that non-computer-geeks and weekend-players like me (and blond girls like me) will understand! :D
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  • nagrom7nagrom7 Member Posts: 995 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    Well, I doubt it was the Atlantic as I was having the same issues in Australia yesterday. It seems fine today though.
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  • dammitjimdammitjim Member Posts: 26 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    Oh, and by the way, it may sound silly, but.. When I had the game open, not able to login though trying and was browsing the forums at the same time I had problems accesing various pages, they were loading slowly or not at all. Now as I closed the game everything went back to normal. It isn't the computer's fault, normally I can run many other programs while playing. Is it possible that me not being able to login has somehow affected my internet connection? It sounds improbable for me, but maybe?..
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  • silverfaustxsilverfaustx Member Posts: 262
    edited January 2014
    Unable to contact account server
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