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Massive imbalance for Fed Vs Klink Elite Space Weapons....
naz4
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Why does this exist? If a full team uses these against another, its ubsurdly overpowered. The fed weapons have a crappy little shield heal vs klinks with a massive resistance debuff!?!?!?
Needs to be addressed somehow. At least give Feds the same debuff.....
Needs to be addressed somehow. At least give Feds the same debuff.....
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Elite Disruptors are Mk XII with: DMGx2, one modifier of your choice, and SDisrupt, along with the normal disruptor proc, can also proc a separate proc which lowers shield resistance on the target.
Can we please just leave somethings faction specific, KDF is losing more and more reasons to try KDF out.
Besides I have seen a few Fed zombie builds out there using elite phasers. Maybe its not the main part of the build, but every bit of healing helps.
So leave a massively overpowered weapon to one side?
Otherwise the obviuos answer is to make both options availible to both factions.
R.I.P
The Nanites aren't even in the same league as standard disruptors imo, much less Elite Fleet.
And yes, both procs should be available to both sides.
Are you trying to be silly?
Outside of lolkerrat, the only thing KDF having massively better fleet weapons with a seriously powerful proc does is help put more nails in the coffin of FvK and KvK.
Who the hell wants that?
Well KDF doesn't have 5 fore weapon ships or 5 tac console faction ships unless counting Romulans, this will be a lot more OP on teams with Kumari, Fleet AE and Fleet Defiants.
Maybe the fed ones should be tweaked then? If they could grant a shield resistance proc instead of a heal they would be the exact opposite of KDF elite weapons and could counter its proc, but maybe this would also be op so not sure if its a good idea.
Also one of the problems is shield resists stacking absurdly high and not enough counters to this besides elite disruptors and SNB. Maybe if more resist lowering abilites were avialable this wouldn't be so much of an issue. Tachyon beam should be made useful and lower shield resists.
Game has become more chance and opportunity based then ever.
Whoops i just catched myself complaining for once
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Not so much anymore, the FvK queues have been more active because one of the main reasons for avoiding it and going FvF instead is now gone. Feds have most of the Romulan players who have better cloak then most KDF ships, and have better z-store consoles, and now have KDFs best z-store console, leech. People stayed in FvF to not have to go up against battle cloak and consoles like leech, AA, etc, but now they can't.
Well lets face it, 5 console setup isnt a massive game changer anyway, the only ship really thats 5 console and OP is the JHAS, which last time I checked is available both sides.
5 Fore weapons is great, extra energy drain meaning back ups are less powerful, the only ship with 5 console 5 fore weaps is one of the andorian ships, only premades use it because its more delicate than a quails egg.
klinks also have some of the fastest turning ships in the game, combined with battle cloak makes them pretty deadly, not forgetting all the other drains and stuff that Fed doesnt have, better carriers, better carrier support, a good chunk of more potent firepower across a larger selection of ships as opposed to fed cruisers.
You also have access to a weapon that when only 2 people have them in a team is utterly unstoppable (even more so when combined with all the drain toys and stuff that fed doesnt have access to).
Those elite disruptors need to be either toned down or elite phasers need to be toned up to match on one level or another.
The fact that elite dis opens up on you, you might as well hand over your hull plates and shields to the enemy.
Like he said, the Feds have EVERYTHING else including the BoP.
There is almost nothing left exclusively KDF, now.
RIP KDF and PvP 2014-07-17 Season 9.5 - Death by Dev
this is not about exclusively, is about BALANCE. It doesn't care who faction have the OP toy of the month, if it broke/op it should be addressed.
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Hey MT, what do you think about the new UI?
In the end it's just one of the power creep things that happens to fall KDF side like plas leech was.
Random Quote from Kerrat
"Sumlobus@****: your mums eat Iced Targ Poo"
C&H Fed banter
It makes me sue you to get me a new eye implant.
Then you probably don't want to see this:
Fleet Advanced Cores...?
Fleet Elite Cores...?
Seeing as they do... its time for Cryptic to just plain fix them not spread em.
Remove the massive shield debuff... and give them a hull heal... I know it doesn't seem that logical... but really its no more illogical then your weapons healing your shields.
Or Just copy the fed shield heal stats over to the disruptors and be done with it.
The shield debuff was a bad idea... no point in making it worse.
Ditto for other klink junk they have spread around...
As much as I am loving having all 4 of my sub systems over 100 power all the time... leach is broken plain and simple. (change the topic there I know)
Poor soul didnt have time to log out.
Who cares... bottom line Naz is right it was a bad design.
Honestly I vote just copy the fed porcs over the E disruptors.
Or make them impart a hull resistance... Have the energy feed back into "Disrupted Hull Polarization" and have them give a hull resist.
I would love Fleet Elite weapons of all types for all factions, and same with wing and quad cannons.
@rudiefix Feds: Rudiefix / Thron / Opa
@rudiefix KDFs: Lill / Xifeidur / Dehr / Ugly
@rudiefix Roms (KDF alligned): Chicita
Bottom line is that phasers also have bad design. Since start. Phaser proc anyone, ol' tsi style? It took 3 years to partially fix that one - since that immunity doesn't work well.
Two quotes from another thread:
This game is full of bad designs.
Poor soul didnt have time to log out.
U want to go with friendly atmosphere, overall - better players, less drama, much more brain, and most important, fun and freedom. Elite fleet weapons are just icing on a cake.
Poor soul didnt have time to log out.
Also, I dont think thats a problem, since only 2-3 ppl "outside lolkerrat" can really make you suffer, tho it did pass my mind u guys went too fast last night in arena where I was present. Dunno, maybe they are overpowered, I dont use them, but i still think its not a big deal.
offtopic:
Also, AA got nerfed, its has been destryoed by energy weapons now.
Poor soul didnt have time to log out.
As much as I believe that there needs to exist parity between all factions in regards to access to weapons types, doffs, etc, I also believe that there needs to be parity between the factions in regards to ships, and ship roles.
The old argument that cloak justified the setup of Klingon faction ships, and the issues that have plagued since launch of certain ships like the raptor, seriously need to be considered into the equation.
Folks that say a 5-TAC console ship does not matter all that much is deluding themselves. Since LoR it matters a great deal with the recent changes and players now have ample means of supplement that additional power to put it to use.
I personally do not believe that it will promote balance given Feds access to these weapons, when you compare the ships on either side on that equation. Its obvious that only the feds stand to gain out of it.