Thank you so much, Cryptic, for ****ting on the KDF again. And here I was thinking you were gonna start treating us equally, what with the addition of new content and whatnot. Give one of our best remaining exclusive consoles to the Feds and offer us some nearly useless cloak-bypassing console? Your idea of a 'fair exchange' is utterly, 100% F**CKED. This is on top of a new lockbox that you know every no-talent Federation petaQ will be mass-attacking honest KDF players with and patting themselves on the back about it. Oh, but you couldn't POSSIBLY give the KDF a 5-tac console escort or an escort with 5 weapons to the fore, or an escort that can actually match what the Federation has.
So, what do we KDF have now? Aceton Assimilators, which you'll probably peddle to the gutless, incompetent Federation swine eventually? Raptors that don't present an even match to Federation escorts? Battlecruisers that aren't as great as Federation morons would like to claim? BoPs that can be shredded with 1-2 alphastrikes even with TT + EPtS up? Carriers that haven't been such a big edge for a long time now, thanks to more of your backstabbing? Meanwhile, Federation KEEPS their edge in escorts and science ships, and now get cloaking ships (oh, but under the guise of 'Romulans').
F**k you, Cryptic. Yet another crime against the KDF amongst a list of crimes and offenses you've committed. Now I know why I don't put money into this game anymore.
you forgot to add that romulans already got access to everything feds and kdf had, leech, AA, everything.
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And here I thought Klingons are Warriors.. not whiners. Notice the primitive rage in their eyes.. the uncontrolled brutality. Klingons can be quite entertaining, don't you agree? I think every Romulan zoo should have a pair.
Shut up, you blind petaQ. You and the rest of the Federation sycophants obviously can't tell the difference between 'whining' (which is what the Federation swine do) and legit complaints (which is what the KDF tend to do, with some exceptions). Cryptic is apparently completely ignorant as to the concept of a 'fair trade'. We were hoping they would've stopped dumping all over the KDF now. . .silly us.
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To make it worse KDF players have to pay for zen ships to get good consoles, now all those same consoles Fed can just buy off of exchange with EC. There is only 1 good console KDF got from the Feds, that is antimatter spread. :mad:
lol It ended up taking the collateral damage from this thread. :P
IDK, to me it remains the best cruiser in STO, pretty capable of taking down every other cruiser, battlecruiser, escort, raptor, warbird and so on.
Just chillax people and don't overwhealm yourselves for sth. everyone knew was comming. I don't like the console sharing simply because I believe it's erasing the borders between the factions. I look forward to depleting all the consoles that are up for exchange, then Cryptic might actually do sth. new with the consoles.
On another note, I have many reasons I like to play KDF over Fed. Guess what? The plasmonic leach is not one of them.
My problem is that it's another blatant spit in the face of the KDF. Yeah, give us what we've been due for 3 friggin years, and then steal one of our best remaining exclusive consoles.
I don't give a damn if 'we knew it was coming'. I don't agree with it, and I'm friggin pissed off about it.
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Oit of curiosity, what is wrong woth the Fl. Vorcha?
In my opinion battlecruisers are overrated. They might be good for punching fed cruisers, but they are only big targets for escorts (unless you are using a traditionnal beams build).
On the other hand, most people are underestimating both the fl. scourge and fl. somraw which are on par with fleet patrol if not slightly better.
I'm not bothered by KDF losing it, hell I played for months without it.
I am bothered by the idea of Fed Science captains having it. Sci is one of their strong points and this is going to be a bit unbalancing.
Other point worth mentioning, they are going to be rare and expensive on the Fed side, cheap and readily available for us still.
Except for those dedicated people with tons of EC's because they've been selling ship, master keys and everything else everyone buys
But I agree, kinda makes it quite unbalanced now
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KDF cruisers are still lightyears beyond Starfleet cruisers so there is balance between them and Starfleet escorts. Now the final disparity has been removed and KDF players might actually encounter a challenge in PvP.
It's really satisfying to see how many KDF players are crying about this. The one with the advantage always claims he has none for fear of it being taken from him and cries the hardest when he inevitably loses it.
Feds get Leech console (we knew it was coming some day), but KDF gets some TRIBBLE console that noone could care less about? At least give KDF torpedo point defense or wide angle torpedo, you know something useful.
With Romeration Officers coming we might just find a use for a Tailpipe sniffing Torpedo
KDF cruisers are still lightyears beyond Starfleet cruisers so there is balance between them and Starfleet escorts. Now the final disparity has been removed and KDF players might actually encounter a challenge in PvP.
It's really satisfying to see how many KDF players are crying about this. The one with the advantage always claims he has none for fear of it being taken from him and cries the hardest when he inevitably loses it.
Lightyears??!! lol hardly, though they are designed for combat more so than the feds cruisers.
The PL is not needed to beat the average feed one meets in Kerrat or a CnH, even the arena's. It is a small advantage og good power production with hardly any effect to a defended target but I havent used on in months becuase its not needed to beat the average fed.
Lightyears??!! lol hardly, though they are designed for combat more so than the feds cruisers.
The PL is not needed to beat the average feed one meets in Kerrat or a CnH, even the arena's. It is a small advantage og good power production with hardly any effect to a defended target but I havent used on in months becuase its not needed to beat the average fed.
Battlecruisers are so OP that more people fly BOPs , Raptors or carriers generally . Seriously idk where people come up with this stuff.
Also totally called it.
Cryptic are not going to break 3 years of TRIBBLE the targ so to speak. I just can't wait to see the Rom players reaction when eventually when their player numbers go back down and they to are relegated to the faction no one likes to talk about.
Battlecruisers are so OP that more people fly BOPs , Raptors or carriers generally . Seriously idk where people come up with this stuff.
Also totally called it.
Cryptic are not going to break 3 years of TRIBBLE the targ so to speak. I just can't wait to see the Rom players reaction when eventually when their player numbers go back down and they to are relegated to the faction no one likes to talk about.
Eh the majority of the Romulan crowd is going to be fed players based on this plasmonic leech thing it was the icing on the cake to speak for the power level issue. So like the fed side the romulan side will get whatever they QQ about until they get it.
I'm going to point out again that the Klingon's aren't actually losing the PL console. Every time they add one of these cross faction console packs, this comes up, and everyone whines that KDF is "losing" whatever cheese console they had, and that KDF will die when the console is released.
I don't know about everyone, but I don't choose to play a faction based on what fancy consoles they have available. Yeah, sure you are losing the exclusivity of the console, but you still have it, and I'll bet all the players that really know how to employ PL know how to counter it too, so it's not that big of a setback. And nothing is going to kill the KDF, if anything I think we're about to see a population explosion on Qo'noS, now that they are adding a real tutorial and 1-50 content. I for one could never really get seriously into KDF before, and I think it might be worth playing more after tomorrow.
STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
Eh the majority of the Romulan crowd is going to be fed players based on this plasmonic leech thing it was the icing on the cake to speak for the power level issue. So like the fed side the romulan side will get whatever they QQ about until they get it.
The novelty will likely wear off eventually while I doubt the Roms will be treated anywhere close to as bad as the KDF the past 3 years I can still see them taking second spot to the Feds.
You open Tal Shiar Lockboxes and the cross-faction console might one of the things within.
STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
You know why they did this now, due to the Romulans so Fed Romulans can have it like KDF Romulans. One of the reasons a lot of people were bringing their Romulans to the KDF and to try and level out the population and Cryptic has really screwed that up.
We all know Cryptic is pretty useless and the damage is now done. Again they cave in to the Fed players who want everything on their faction.
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I believe that the KDF can finally have 5-TAC raptors and BOPs now thanks.
Lets be honest now that there is no valid reason why they should not have it.
This. I have characters both sides, so I'm actually happy about Fed PL.
That said, I think the lack of 5-tac console KDF Fleet Ships is unfair and should probably be rectified as soon as possible. It shouldn't take much dev time either: no new models necessary, no new logic necessary.
Also: +1 to everyone who pointed out that the imbalance of the console exchange is irrelevant because the Feds didn't have any consoles that KDF wanted anyway.
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you forgot to add that romulans already got access to everything feds and kdf had, leech, AA, everything.
CUUCUUMBEER! "-With slight partigen with it."
Proud member or DPS-800 "-We kill dem mines with our scitter turrets."
Shut up, you blind petaQ. You and the rest of the Federation sycophants obviously can't tell the difference between 'whining' (which is what the Federation swine do) and legit complaints (which is what the KDF tend to do, with some exceptions). Cryptic is apparently completely ignorant as to the concept of a 'fair trade'. We were hoping they would've stopped dumping all over the KDF now. . .silly us.
I don't even wanna guess how a cucumber can make you happy..... *runs away screaming*
My problem is that it's another blatant spit in the face of the KDF. Yeah, give us what we've been due for 3 friggin years, and then steal one of our best remaining exclusive consoles.
I don't give a damn if 'we knew it was coming'. I don't agree with it, and I'm friggin pissed off about it.
In my opinion battlecruisers are overrated. They might be good for punching fed cruisers, but they are only big targets for escorts (unless you are using a traditionnal beams build).
On the other hand, most people are underestimating both the fl. scourge and fl. somraw which are on par with fleet patrol if not slightly better.
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I am bothered by the idea of Fed Science captains having it. Sci is one of their strong points and this is going to be a bit unbalancing.
Other point worth mentioning, they are going to be rare and expensive on the Fed side, cheap and readily available for us still.
Except for those dedicated people with tons of EC's because they've been selling ship, master keys and everything else everyone buys
But I agree, kinda makes it quite unbalanced now
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It's really satisfying to see how many KDF players are crying about this. The one with the advantage always claims he has none for fear of it being taken from him and cries the hardest when he inevitably loses it.
With Romeration Officers coming we might just find a use for a Tailpipe sniffing Torpedo
Lightyears??!! lol hardly, though they are designed for combat more so than the feds cruisers.
The PL is not needed to beat the average feed one meets in Kerrat or a CnH, even the arena's. It is a small advantage og good power production with hardly any effect to a defended target but I havent used on in months becuase its not needed to beat the average fed.
R.I.P
Battlecruisers are so OP that more people fly BOPs , Raptors or carriers generally . Seriously idk where people come up with this stuff.
Also totally called it.
Cryptic are not going to break 3 years of TRIBBLE the targ so to speak. I just can't wait to see the Rom players reaction when eventually when their player numbers go back down and they to are relegated to the faction no one likes to talk about.
Eh the majority of the Romulan crowd is going to be fed players based on this plasmonic leech thing it was the icing on the cake to speak for the power level issue. So like the fed side the romulan side will get whatever they QQ about until they get it.
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I don't know about everyone, but I don't choose to play a faction based on what fancy consoles they have available. Yeah, sure you are losing the exclusivity of the console, but you still have it, and I'll bet all the players that really know how to employ PL know how to counter it too, so it's not that big of a setback. And nothing is going to kill the KDF, if anything I think we're about to see a population explosion on Qo'noS, now that they are adding a real tutorial and 1-50 content. I for one could never really get seriously into KDF before, and I think it might be worth playing more after tomorrow.
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This quote makes me smile. Smile for reasons you may be able to figure out after a nap.
The novelty will likely wear off eventually while I doubt the Roms will be treated anywhere close to as bad as the KDF the past 3 years I can still see them taking second spot to the Feds.
Feds get your elite disruptors and your plasmonic leech, and roms no longer have a reason to roll kdf for power levels.
What do you get? A tool to fight your own kind or the very roms that were once going to be on your side.
Thats a punch to the gut if ive ever seen one.
So uhh... heh... you guys ever think of maybe surrendering to the federation?
We have our own flavors of genocide, maybe you'd learn to like them too?
R.I.P
We all know Cryptic is pretty useless and the damage is now done. Again they cave in to the Fed players who want everything on their faction.
This. I have characters both sides, so I'm actually happy about Fed PL.
That said, I think the lack of 5-tac console KDF Fleet Ships is unfair and should probably be rectified as soon as possible. It shouldn't take much dev time either: no new models necessary, no new logic necessary.
Also: +1 to everyone who pointed out that the imbalance of the console exchange is irrelevant because the Feds didn't have any consoles that KDF wanted anyway.