My thoughts is they got to level 10 decided it was to much work and went the lazy way out and intagrated it with existing factions.
They got lazy and now they lying to cover their tracks
3 distinct factions would have required a lot more work than Cryptic is capable of undertaking - in three years they've been unable to finish the KDF and even with a larger team and KDF stuff coming in May I'm not expecting to seem them 'finished' just 'good enough'
They say the player-base is too small to justify the cost and the Romulan player-base wouldn't have been any bigger than the KDF.
It's a cheap move but what matters to them is marketing and attracting new players. It also has the benefit of allowing them to offer Romulan ships cross-faction in the C-Store/lockboxes.
I expect post LoR we'll see some enhancements made to the Romulans but they're forever going to be a Fed/KDF sub-faction - any future Episodic/end-game content will be faction-agnostic so you'll just play it as whatever.
Or a young junior officer trying to make a name for themselves as the one who rescued empress sela from the iconians.
She has no legitimate claim to the Imperial seat. She's just another claimant among dozens, if not hundreds.
It wouldn't be like rescuing the trueborn heir. Nobody would care. At best, a few supporters trickle back, though I doubt anybody would have an actual love for her. She's no Renly Baratheon. She's not even Stannis. She's Joffrey without the royal pedigree. More likely, she would have to start rebuilding from scratch, because all of her previous power base will have already moved on to supporting other factions, or staking their own claims.
There's nothing in it for anybody to bother trying to rescue her.
She has no legitimate claim to the Imperial seat. She's just another claimant among dozens, if not hundreds.
It wouldn't be like rescuing the trueborn heir. Nobody would care. At best, a few supporters trickle back, though I doubt anybody would have an actual love for her. She's no Renly Baratheon. She's not even Stannis. She's Joffrey without the royal pedigree. More likely, she would have to start rebuilding from scratch, because all of her previous power base will have already moved on to supporting other factions, or staking their own claims.
There's nothing in it for anybody to bother trying to rescue her.
Its just a factor if cryptic actually makes a rom 3rd faction at some point in the future...HEY I JUST MADE A FUNNY!!!
Here's why a Romulan faction like some posters wanted is not now, nor ever was going to happen:
1) Crazy amount of work. Like, totally crazy. Not just in terms of leveling missions, either, since that seems to be the work that Cryptic actually did - no, I mean if we're not going to have them teaming with Feds/Klings, they have to have their own entire set of endgame missions, since that seems right now to be the only place that this 'alliance' comes into play. Understand, this means no Romulan rep track (because if you are RSE, you would only ever see D'Tan as an enemy, right?), and no Omega rep track (because people are up in arms about being forced to play nice with the other factions, so how do you justify them joining the Omega force?). So, now Cryptic has to make new rep tracks, but keep them balanced with the ones that already exist, which is likely a fools errand.
Plus (still on the amount of work here), what about all the lock-box ships that have already been released? For some, like the Galor, I guess it's just a matter of waiting for them to be re-released, or buying them off the exchange. But what about the faction specific ones, like timeships? Now we need a Romulan Timeship too, right? And it can't just be a copy/paste of the Klingon one, because Romulan ships have singularity cores, etc. So more development work, more balance issues, etc. C-store ships? Need those, plus enough new console powers to keep things balanced. Oh, and we need to come up with a way to Romulans to 'catch up' on the cross-faction consoles they missed. Sure, they can buy them off the exchange, but remember - they have to buy each one twice, because they would need BOTH faction consoles, right? Oh, and then I guess the Feds/Klings need a way to get access to whatever specific Romulan consoles come out... hmmm...
This is even before we get into balancing 3 faction PvP, building new fleet starbase assets for the Romulans, and having Romulans start the grind on those almost a full year behind everyone else. That's a TON of work - in fact probably about as much development work as the game had behind it at launch.
2) There is not nearly enough demand to justify that expenditure. Consider the KDF - the fact is, the Klingon Empire, with its sizable screen presence and relatively well-developed background, still only attracts a small segment of the hardcore Star Trek fan base, and probably an even smaller segment of the casual Star Trek fans who make up the bulk of this game's player base. Romulans? I highly suspect they are smaller still, and the benefit to Cryptic in terms of catering to those players isn't even close to the cost it would take in development resources to make them happy.
3) What most of the players want is IMO stupid anyway - while it may be galling to admit it, the fact is there simply aren't enough 'pure' Romulan fans to give them a large enough player base to support things like viable fleets building starbases, filling pvp/pve queues, etc., even if those things were created for them to do. Thus, new players are more likely to be turned off from the Romulans because even if their ships look cool, the Romulan player community is so small that it is difficult to actually do much more than level up through the story line missions and then wait and wait for ques to pop or starbase projects to run, etc. Veteran players like me, meanwhile, are less likely to play Romulans as a 'pure' factions, because by god, I just helped my fleet get to Tier V and you want me to start over again, only this time with a bunch of strangers, since most of my fleet doesn't want to play Romulans? No sir, that dog won't hunt.
Again, its all a numbers game - if you make the faction pure enough for the hardcore Romulan fans, you probably turn off more players than you attract. So, basically, Cryptic hit it out of the park on this one, I think. I get to play a Romulan character, get entirely new story line missions, get new, cool ships, AND I get to use them all with my current fleet, and my current friends. This is a win all the way around.
And if you don't like it and can't accept it, I'm genuinely sorry, but I guess don't let the door hit you where the Epohh should've bit you.
Here's why a Romulan faction like some posters wanted is not now, nor ever was going to happen:
1) Crazy amount of work. Like, totally crazy. Not just in terms of leveling missions, either, since that seems to be the work that Cryptic actually did - no, I mean if we're not going to have them teaming with Feds/Klings, they have to have their own entire set of endgame missions, since that seems right now to be the only place that this 'alliance' comes into play. Understand, this means no Romulan rep track (because if you are RSE, you would only ever see D'Tan as an enemy, right?), and no Omega rep track (because people are up in arms about being forced to play nice with the other factions, so how do you justify them joining the Omega force?). So, now Cryptic has to make new rep tracks, but keep them balanced with the ones that already exist, which is likely a fools errand.
Plus (still on the amount of work here), what about all the lock-box ships that have already been released? For some, like the Galor, I guess it's just a matter of waiting for them to be re-released, or buying them off the exchange. But what about the faction specific ones, like timeships? Now we need a Romulan Timeship too, right? And it can't just be a copy/paste of the Klingon one, because Romulan ships have singularity cores, etc. So more development work, more balance issues, etc. C-store ships? Need those, plus enough new console powers to keep things balanced. Oh, and we need to come up with a way to Romulans to 'catch up' on the cross-faction consoles they missed. Sure, they can buy them off the exchange, but remember - they have to buy each one twice, because they would need BOTH faction consoles, right? Oh, and then I guess the Feds/Klings need a way to get access to whatever specific Romulan consoles come out... hmmm...
This is even before we get into balancing 3 faction PvP, building new fleet starbase assets for the Romulans, and having Romulans start the grind on those almost a full year behind everyone else. That's a TON of work - in fact probably about as much development work as the game had behind it at launch.
2) There is not nearly enough demand to justify that expenditure. Consider the KDF - the fact is, the Klingon Empire, with its sizable screen presence and relatively well-developed background, still only attracts a small segment of the hardcore Star Trek fan base, and probably an even smaller segment of the casual Star Trek fans who make up the bulk of this game's player base. Romulans? I highly suspect they are smaller still, and the benefit to Cryptic in terms of catering to those players isn't even close to the cost it would take in development resources to make them happy.
3) What most of the players want is IMO stupid anyway - while it may be galling to admit it, the fact is there simply aren't enough 'pure' Romulan fans to give them a large enough player base to support things like viable fleets building starbases, filling pvp/pve queues, etc., even if those things were created for them to do. Thus, new players are more likely to be turned off from the Romulans because even if their ships look cool, the Romulan player community is so small that it is difficult to actually do much more than level up through the story line missions and then wait and wait for ques to pop or starbase projects to run, etc. Veteran players like me, meanwhile, are less likely to play Romulans as a 'pure' factions, because by god, I just helped my fleet get to Tier V and you want me to start over again, only this time with a bunch of strangers, since most of my fleet doesn't want to play Romulans? No sir, that dog won't hunt.
Again, its all a numbers game - if you make the faction pure enough for the hardcore Romulan fans, you probably turn off more players than you attract. So, basically, Cryptic hit it out of the park on this one, I think. I get to play a Romulan character, get entirely new story line missions, get new, cool ships, AND I get to use them all with my current fleet, and my current friends. This is a win all the way around.
And if you don't like it and can't accept it, I'm genuinely sorry, but I guess don't let the door hit you where the Epohh should've bit you.
If thats all true they should off never bothered making a Romulin "faction" at all and just spent the money and time keeping their fed player base happy with new content.
If thats all true they should off never bothered making a Romulin "faction" at all and just spent the money and time keeping their fed player base happy with new content.
Agreed they devs seem more content making the feddies happy
Hey that's good for you. I'm glad you enjoy mediocrity, and think Cryptic should never attempt to rise above that in any way.
As I've said before, feel free to financially support Cryptic as people such as I have up to this point where we were let down completely.
Hey that's good for you. I'm glad you enjoy mediocrity, and think Cryptic should never attempt to rise above that in any way.
As I've said before, feel free to financially support Cryptic as people such as I have up to this point where we were let down completely.
In the past i bought zen to spend on this game and even contimplated going gold but after this fiasco i wont spend another dime on this game.
Every single new guild in WoW starts at level 1. Yet my unguilded characters get pestered every day about joining new guilds.
Every time somebody starts a new character, they start at level 1 with no reputation ground or endgame equipment.
So my response to "starting over" on fleet bases is who cares?.
As for PvP... a third faction could actually help queue times by filling in for which ever side is short. Which would be in keeping with how 3-faction generally works anyway - the two underdogs join up to oppose the dominant faction. Balance of power and all that.
That's not perfect, but it's just off the top of my head. There are solutions other than "We can't do anything! It's all impossible! Two factions fo' lyfe!"
If thats all true they should off never bothered making a Romulin "faction" at all and just spent the money and time keeping their fed player base happy with new content.
Probably they should have, from a purely marketing perspective. I'm guessing the demand for Romulan SHIPS in a lockbox or C-store etc. is actually higher than the demand for a Romulan story line, starbase grind, etc. That would have been an easy and lazy way to capture maybe half of the people who currently will be buying C-store ships for their new Romulan characters, and the development cost would have been marginal at best.
Instead, they did the most they could realistically do to cater to the Romulan fan base, and did so in a way that allowed them to also cater to the Fed/Klingon players who really didn't want to start a whole new fleet etc, but wanted to fly Romulan ships. Ultimately, it seems like saying that what Romulan players are getting is somehow worse than nothing at all is letting "perfect" be the enemy of "good".
Every single new guild in WoW starts at level 1. Yet my unguilded characters get pestered every day about joining new guilds.
Every time somebody starts a new character, they start at level 1 with no reputation ground or endgame equipment.
So my response to "starting over" on fleet bases is who cares?.
As for PvP... a third faction could actually help queue times by filling in for which ever side is short. Which would be in keeping with how 3-faction generally works anyway - the two underdogs join up to oppose the dominant faction. Balance of power and all that.
That's not perfect, but it's just off the top of my head. There are solutions other than "We can't do anything! It's all impossible! Two factions fo' lyfe!"
I noticed several Romulan fleets starting up just after LoR was announced. I was thinking about joining one of them myself.
Obviously numerous people were interested in "starting over" just to be able to play as Romulans.
Cryptic and their defenders severely underestimate the playerbase to their own detriment.
Every single new guild in WoW starts at level 1. Yet my unguilded characters get pestered every day about joining new guilds.
Every time somebody starts a new character, they start at level 1 with no reputation ground or endgame equipment.
So my response to "starting over" on fleet bases is who cares?.
As for PvP... a third faction could actually help queue times by filling in for which ever side is short. Which would be in keeping with how 3-faction generally works anyway - the two underdogs join up to oppose the dominant faction.
That's not perfect, but it's just off the top of my head. There are solutions other than "We can't do anything! It's all impossible! Two factions fo' lyfe!"
Thats a very good idea but it does have one major flaw
I noticed several Romulan fleets starting up just after LoR was announced. I was thinking about joining one of them myself.
Obviously numerous people were interested in "starting over" just to be able to play as Romulans.
Cryptic and their defenders severely underestimate the playerbase to their own detriment.
I dont think they underestimate the playerbase as much as they have lost touch with the playerbase.
I do support the game, and I will continue to do so, because I enjoy it. I'm sorry you won't be around to enjoy it with me, but since I think most of your opinions and arguments are silly, I probably won't miss you too much.
Have fun in the other Star Trek MMO that lets you play as any type of Romulan at all.
cater to the Fed/Klingon players who really didn't want to start a whole new fleet etc, but wanted to fly Romulan ships. Ultimately, it seems like saying that what Romulan players are getting is somehow worse than nothing at all is letting "perfect" be the enemy of "good".
I'd like to play a troll druid, but I hate the Horde. Yet Blizzard doesn't allow me to create an Alliance troll. Pandaren can't be Death Knights.
Not everybody needs to have their every whim catered. Don't want to play a Romulan? You don't get to fly a Romulan ship. End of story. Some faction integrity is not a bad thing.
Because is will be available eventually. Everything on Tribble is a Work In Progress; and it serves no purpose (and would take extra Dev time) to write code that blocks graphics from displaying - and it's really not necessary.
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I do support the game, and I will continue to do so, because I enjoy it. I'm sorry you won't be around to enjoy it with me, but since I think most of your opinions and arguments are silly, I probably won't miss you too much.
Have fun in the other Star Trek MMO that lets you play as any type of Romulan at all.
Oh how cute, you're playing the monopolization game are you?
Being the only one to do it doesn't mean you get to do it badly. That kind of attitude has generated enough schlock and garbage in this world, thank you.
I do support the game, and I will continue to do so, because I enjoy it. I'm sorry you won't be around to enjoy it with me, but since I think most of your opinions and arguments are silly, I probably won't miss you too much.
Have fun in the other Star Trek MMO that lets you play as any type of Romulan at all.
I think the biggest issue for alot of people is how cryptic mislead everyone and didnt say anything till now.
For me its worse then being lied to because they were willing to sit back as everyone myself included were overcome with joy the day when the countdown hit zero and we were told there was gonna be a rom faction.
Now were being told no there isnt i wont support a game that is willing to mislead and lie to its players i will play but as far as subscribing or buying zen nope not gonna do it.
If they had been honest and upfront from the beggining then it wouldve been ok but we were lead to believe the rom 3rd faction was about to be released now were told something different.
Stahl said earlier that the game's technology "doesn't allow" for new factions to be implemented any other way.
Assuming that's true, it's funny how this apparent fact has never once come up any other time he's been questioned on the possibility of new factions, or indeed when the Romulan "faction" was announced.
Even more incredulous because apparently the faction can work just fine and dandy independent up until level 10. My opinion is that Stahl is lying on this issue to deflect criticism. Only way it can be done, yeah. Right.
The same TRIBBLE he has been telling the KDF player base for years. It's sad that the Romulans are getting the same treatment as well. It's even more sad that Cryptic can't or won't do a multi-faction game.
If Cryptic wasn't prepared to do a multi-faction game then the game should have been set up totally different to begin with. Basically you pick a faction and play to a certain level like the Romulans are going to be and then you join Omega Force and start starbases and fleets and everything after that is cross faction all three factions working towards a comon goal and they slowly improve upon the earlier levels with unique faction specific written from that factions viewpoint missions and content. There would be no Fed/KDF war and all that, there would be no restriction of cross faction teaming all three factions are in it together for survival like they did in the Dominion War.
To be totally honest it's not too late for them to do this if they give the KDF and Romulans missions to level 50 (give all the featured episodes to the Federation) and make it so all factions have say 50 leveling missions each. Then at level 50 they can join Omega force and a fleet (which isn't faction based) and then all the cross faction stuff goes from there. Bring a conclusion to the KDF/FED war, Iconians and Borg are making it that they and the Romulans need to come together for mutual survival. Then the only faction specific stuff required are ships and uniforms which they can release 1 for each faction each time they release content, could even have packs for people who have a character on all three factions.
It would bring the storylines together and give everyone including Cryptic what they want. A lot of work but doable by this time next year. Most of the ground work is already there.
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Not everybody needs to have their every whim catered.
Right. Exactly my point. The only difference is that I feel like when push comes to shove, having MY whim catered to is preferable to having YOUR whim catered to. Again, I suspect the choice was not between the current system or your ideal, it was between the current system or NOTHING, and I think something you don't quite like is better than nothing at all.
But then I have been accused of being a pragmatist.
Because is will be available eventually. Everything on Tribble is a Work In Progress; and it serves no purpose (and would take extra Dev time) to write code that blocks graphics from displaying - and it's really not necessary.
so they are being lazy go figure
" Now the gate has been unlatched headstones pushed aside; corpses shift and offer room ,a fate you must abide."
I think the biggest issue for alot of people is how cryptic mislead everyone
Oh, don't pull the generalization card out now, that's a flat-out total lie you just spouted. I wasn't mislead by Cryptic in ANY way at all. It's only those like you and linwei that feel mislead. So generalizing it to mean that everyone was mislead is completely false, and you know it.
Right. Exactly my point. The only difference is that I feel like when push comes to shove, having MY whim catered to is preferable to having YOUR whim catered to. Again, I suspect the choice was not between the current system or your ideal, it was between the current system or NOTHING, and I think something you don't quite like is better than nothing at all.
But then I have been accused of being a pragmatist.
Im personally content with having a rom micro faction
Im not happy with the fact they mislead all of us with a nice lie and now cover up.
I dont want every whim to be catered to i just want some honesty from cryptic why did they have to mislead and lie to us when they couldve just told us what was up the day they made the "big" annoucement.
Right. Exactly my point. The only difference is that I feel like when push comes to shove, having MY whim catered to is preferable to having YOUR whim catered to. Again, I suspect the choice was not between the current system or your ideal, it was between the current system or NOTHING, and I think something you don't quite like is better than nothing at all.
But then I have been accused of being a pragmatist.
By your logic, a pie in the face is better than no pie at all.
Oh, don't pull the generalization card out now, that's a flat-out total lie you just spouted. I wasn't mislead by Cryptic in ANY way at all. It's only those like you and linwei that feel mislead. So generalizing it to mean that everyone was mislead is completely false, and you know it.
There there be a good little sheeple and go graze in your pasture
Oh, don't pull the generalization card out now, that's a flat-out total lie you just spouted. I wasn't mislead by Cryptic in ANY way at all. It's only those like you and linwei that feel mislead. So generalizing it to mean that everyone was mislead is completely false, and you know it.
They still should have come out and been honest when people wait 3 years for romulans should be told the truth by cryptic though i dont expect it from them
" Now the gate has been unlatched headstones pushed aside; corpses shift and offer room ,a fate you must abide."
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then why is the option there?
3 distinct factions would have required a lot more work than Cryptic is capable of undertaking - in three years they've been unable to finish the KDF and even with a larger team and KDF stuff coming in May I'm not expecting to seem them 'finished' just 'good enough'
They say the player-base is too small to justify the cost and the Romulan player-base wouldn't have been any bigger than the KDF.
It's a cheap move but what matters to them is marketing and attracting new players. It also has the benefit of allowing them to offer Romulan ships cross-faction in the C-Store/lockboxes.
I expect post LoR we'll see some enhancements made to the Romulans but they're forever going to be a Fed/KDF sub-faction - any future Episodic/end-game content will be faction-agnostic so you'll just play it as whatever.
She has no legitimate claim to the Imperial seat. She's just another claimant among dozens, if not hundreds.
It wouldn't be like rescuing the trueborn heir. Nobody would care. At best, a few supporters trickle back, though I doubt anybody would have an actual love for her. She's no Renly Baratheon. She's not even Stannis. She's Joffrey without the royal pedigree. More likely, she would have to start rebuilding from scratch, because all of her previous power base will have already moved on to supporting other factions, or staking their own claims.
There's nothing in it for anybody to bother trying to rescue her.
I know i live on the tribble server most the time its so nice and quite
Its just a factor if cryptic actually makes a rom 3rd faction at some point in the future...HEY I JUST MADE A FUNNY!!!
I doubt this game goes past 2 factions
1) Crazy amount of work. Like, totally crazy. Not just in terms of leveling missions, either, since that seems to be the work that Cryptic actually did - no, I mean if we're not going to have them teaming with Feds/Klings, they have to have their own entire set of endgame missions, since that seems right now to be the only place that this 'alliance' comes into play. Understand, this means no Romulan rep track (because if you are RSE, you would only ever see D'Tan as an enemy, right?), and no Omega rep track (because people are up in arms about being forced to play nice with the other factions, so how do you justify them joining the Omega force?). So, now Cryptic has to make new rep tracks, but keep them balanced with the ones that already exist, which is likely a fools errand.
Plus (still on the amount of work here), what about all the lock-box ships that have already been released? For some, like the Galor, I guess it's just a matter of waiting for them to be re-released, or buying them off the exchange. But what about the faction specific ones, like timeships? Now we need a Romulan Timeship too, right? And it can't just be a copy/paste of the Klingon one, because Romulan ships have singularity cores, etc. So more development work, more balance issues, etc. C-store ships? Need those, plus enough new console powers to keep things balanced. Oh, and we need to come up with a way to Romulans to 'catch up' on the cross-faction consoles they missed. Sure, they can buy them off the exchange, but remember - they have to buy each one twice, because they would need BOTH faction consoles, right? Oh, and then I guess the Feds/Klings need a way to get access to whatever specific Romulan consoles come out... hmmm...
This is even before we get into balancing 3 faction PvP, building new fleet starbase assets for the Romulans, and having Romulans start the grind on those almost a full year behind everyone else. That's a TON of work - in fact probably about as much development work as the game had behind it at launch.
2) There is not nearly enough demand to justify that expenditure. Consider the KDF - the fact is, the Klingon Empire, with its sizable screen presence and relatively well-developed background, still only attracts a small segment of the hardcore Star Trek fan base, and probably an even smaller segment of the casual Star Trek fans who make up the bulk of this game's player base. Romulans? I highly suspect they are smaller still, and the benefit to Cryptic in terms of catering to those players isn't even close to the cost it would take in development resources to make them happy.
3) What most of the players want is IMO stupid anyway - while it may be galling to admit it, the fact is there simply aren't enough 'pure' Romulan fans to give them a large enough player base to support things like viable fleets building starbases, filling pvp/pve queues, etc., even if those things were created for them to do. Thus, new players are more likely to be turned off from the Romulans because even if their ships look cool, the Romulan player community is so small that it is difficult to actually do much more than level up through the story line missions and then wait and wait for ques to pop or starbase projects to run, etc. Veteran players like me, meanwhile, are less likely to play Romulans as a 'pure' factions, because by god, I just helped my fleet get to Tier V and you want me to start over again, only this time with a bunch of strangers, since most of my fleet doesn't want to play Romulans? No sir, that dog won't hunt.
Again, its all a numbers game - if you make the faction pure enough for the hardcore Romulan fans, you probably turn off more players than you attract. So, basically, Cryptic hit it out of the park on this one, I think. I get to play a Romulan character, get entirely new story line missions, get new, cool ships, AND I get to use them all with my current fleet, and my current friends. This is a win all the way around.
And if you don't like it and can't accept it, I'm genuinely sorry, but I guess don't let the door hit you where the Epohh should've bit you.
If thats all true they should off never bothered making a Romulin "faction" at all and just spent the money and time keeping their fed player base happy with new content.
Agreed they devs seem more content making the feddies happy
Hey that's good for you. I'm glad you enjoy mediocrity, and think Cryptic should never attempt to rise above that in any way.
As I've said before, feel free to financially support Cryptic as people such as I have up to this point where we were let down completely.
In the past i bought zen to spend on this game and even contimplated going gold but after this fiasco i wont spend another dime on this game.
Every single new guild in WoW starts at level 1. Yet my unguilded characters get pestered every day about joining new guilds.
Every time somebody starts a new character, they start at level 1 with no reputation ground or endgame equipment.
So my response to "starting over" on fleet bases is who cares?.
As for PvP... a third faction could actually help queue times by filling in for which ever side is short. Which would be in keeping with how 3-faction generally works anyway - the two underdogs join up to oppose the dominant faction. Balance of power and all that.
That's not perfect, but it's just off the top of my head. There are solutions other than "We can't do anything! It's all impossible! Two factions fo' lyfe!"
Probably they should have, from a purely marketing perspective. I'm guessing the demand for Romulan SHIPS in a lockbox or C-store etc. is actually higher than the demand for a Romulan story line, starbase grind, etc. That would have been an easy and lazy way to capture maybe half of the people who currently will be buying C-store ships for their new Romulan characters, and the development cost would have been marginal at best.
Instead, they did the most they could realistically do to cater to the Romulan fan base, and did so in a way that allowed them to also cater to the Fed/Klingon players who really didn't want to start a whole new fleet etc, but wanted to fly Romulan ships. Ultimately, it seems like saying that what Romulan players are getting is somehow worse than nothing at all is letting "perfect" be the enemy of "good".
I noticed several Romulan fleets starting up just after LoR was announced. I was thinking about joining one of them myself.
Obviously numerous people were interested in "starting over" just to be able to play as Romulans.
Cryptic and their defenders severely underestimate the playerbase to their own detriment.
Thats a very good idea but it does have one major flaw
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I dont think they underestimate the playerbase as much as they have lost touch with the playerbase.
Look, I can play the insulting quote game too!
I do support the game, and I will continue to do so, because I enjoy it. I'm sorry you won't be around to enjoy it with me, but since I think most of your opinions and arguments are silly, I probably won't miss you too much.
Have fun in the other Star Trek MMO that lets you play as any type of Romulan at all.
I'd like to play a troll druid, but I hate the Horde. Yet Blizzard doesn't allow me to create an Alliance troll. Pandaren can't be Death Knights.
Not everybody needs to have their every whim catered. Don't want to play a Romulan? You don't get to fly a Romulan ship. End of story. Some faction integrity is not a bad thing.
Because is will be available eventually. Everything on Tribble is a Work In Progress; and it serves no purpose (and would take extra Dev time) to write code that blocks graphics from displaying - and it's really not necessary.
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Oh how cute, you're playing the monopolization game are you?
Being the only one to do it doesn't mean you get to do it badly. That kind of attitude has generated enough schlock and garbage in this world, thank you.
I think the biggest issue for alot of people is how cryptic mislead everyone and didnt say anything till now.
For me its worse then being lied to because they were willing to sit back as everyone myself included were overcome with joy the day when the countdown hit zero and we were told there was gonna be a rom faction.
Now were being told no there isnt i wont support a game that is willing to mislead and lie to its players i will play but as far as subscribing or buying zen nope not gonna do it.
If they had been honest and upfront from the beggining then it wouldve been ok but we were lead to believe the rom 3rd faction was about to be released now were told something different.
That just boils my blood :mad::mad:
The same TRIBBLE he has been telling the KDF player base for years. It's sad that the Romulans are getting the same treatment as well. It's even more sad that Cryptic can't or won't do a multi-faction game.
If Cryptic wasn't prepared to do a multi-faction game then the game should have been set up totally different to begin with. Basically you pick a faction and play to a certain level like the Romulans are going to be and then you join Omega Force and start starbases and fleets and everything after that is cross faction all three factions working towards a comon goal and they slowly improve upon the earlier levels with unique faction specific written from that factions viewpoint missions and content. There would be no Fed/KDF war and all that, there would be no restriction of cross faction teaming all three factions are in it together for survival like they did in the Dominion War.
To be totally honest it's not too late for them to do this if they give the KDF and Romulans missions to level 50 (give all the featured episodes to the Federation) and make it so all factions have say 50 leveling missions each. Then at level 50 they can join Omega force and a fleet (which isn't faction based) and then all the cross faction stuff goes from there. Bring a conclusion to the KDF/FED war, Iconians and Borg are making it that they and the Romulans need to come together for mutual survival. Then the only faction specific stuff required are ships and uniforms which they can release 1 for each faction each time they release content, could even have packs for people who have a character on all three factions.
It would bring the storylines together and give everyone including Cryptic what they want. A lot of work but doable by this time next year. Most of the ground work is already there.
Right. Exactly my point. The only difference is that I feel like when push comes to shove, having MY whim catered to is preferable to having YOUR whim catered to. Again, I suspect the choice was not between the current system or your ideal, it was between the current system or NOTHING, and I think something you don't quite like is better than nothing at all.
But then I have been accused of being a pragmatist.
so they are being lazy go figure
Im personally content with having a rom micro faction
Im not happy with the fact they mislead all of us with a nice lie and now cover up.
I dont want every whim to be catered to i just want some honesty from cryptic why did they have to mislead and lie to us when they couldve just told us what was up the day they made the "big" annoucement.
By your logic, a pie in the face is better than no pie at all.
There there be a good little sheeple and go graze in your pasture
They still should have come out and been honest when people wait 3 years for romulans should be told the truth by cryptic though i dont expect it from them