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  • shpoksshpoks Member Posts: 6,967 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    dastahl wrote: »
    The new Klingon leveling progression will be available on TRIBBLE around the first week of May. We're in the process of readjusting all of the Klingon levels, moving episodes around, adding in the ships, and then adding in the new KLG episodes including the Nimbus adventure zone. Once we've finalized the final progression, we'll post it for you to play and see.

    Whoa! That's more good news, especially for us on the red side! :)
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  • sollvaxsollvax Member Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    or we could right now start Romulan exclusive Fleets (Id suggest the Federation starbase as half of that looks Romulan anyway)
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  • neoakiraiineoakiraii Member Posts: 7,468 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    dastahl wrote: »
    The new Klingon leveling progression will be available on TRIBBLE around the first week of May. We're in the process of readjusting all of the Klingon levels, moving episodes around, adding in the ships, and then adding in the new KLG episodes including the Nimbus adventure zone. Once we've finalized the final progression, we'll post it for you to play and see.

    I like the sound of that.
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  • aelfwin1aelfwin1 Member Posts: 2,896 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    lizwei wrote: »
    Yes this would be an interesting enough concept for Ferengi privateers, or any number or alien factions we've seen in the whole of Trek.
    But Romulans? Freaking Romulans? Oh yeah, it's "just a game". :rolleyes:

    You know what ? This "solution" would cheapen even a 'non aligned' faction , as it would destroy their base concept .
    Doing this to the Rommy's by 'fans' of Star Trek ?

    I guess this is one of the times when having fans in charge does not service a franchise .
  • neoakiraiineoakiraii Member Posts: 7,468 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Soooo FEDs were not full till season 6...that means KDF weredone a long time ago:P
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  • eisenw0lfeisenw0lf Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Thanks for the explanations, Dan. I'm starting to understand why you settled on these design decisions. As KDF player I completely understand why you wish to prevent a new faction with ever empty queues like the red side. It's a pain to play both Fleet actions and PvP as Klingon. You spend more time waiting than playing (and sometimes you never get to play), and believe me guys, it would have been the same for Romulans. Most people only play Feds and stick to their own queues like Fed vs Fed PvP, that's the way it is in STO :(

    However I completely disagree on crossfaction ships. Who in their right minds would want Romulans roaming around in Federation/Klingon ships? I mean isn't this against CBS own rules? Didn't they say they don't want Feds flying Klingon Birds of Prey but suddenly it's ok to have Romulans having access to EVERY SHIP IN THE GAME?
  • lizweilizwei Member Posts: 936 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    aelfwin1 wrote: »
    You know what ? This "solution" would cheapen even a 'non aligned' faction , as it would destroy their base concept .
    Doing this to the Rommy's by 'fans' of Star Trek ?

    I guess this is one of the times when having fans in charge does not service a franchise .

    Unfortunately, when "fans" take control of a franchise in any form, it often becomes this.
  • tachyonharmonictachyonharmonic Member Posts: 292 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    dastahl wrote: »
    The Federation and KDF both have access to nearly all the same end game events, stfs, and dailies (with only a few exceptions).

    The only difference between the Fed and the KDF is that they have different queues and team rules for those missions, and the KDF already have problems filling out their queues.

    Adding a third splinter to that end game content would only make things worse for everyone. That is not healthy for the MMO.

    Since everyone has access to the same end game content, then it makes more sense from our business perspective to allow ROMs to join FED or KDF queues as if they are all cross faction. All of this AFTER they've completed their own exclusive progression.

    The only big impact this has is on the future of PVP and for now, the plan is to remain 2v2 because we haven't been able to get that working very well as it is. Trying to add a 3rd faction to pvp would be premature for where the game is at right now.

    I understand what you're saying, but I think you're falling back on a problem that seems to plague Cryptic. You're making decisions based on failings from previous decisions.

    If the KDF is having problems with Queues, why not make make them all cross-faction? It doesn't bother people in STFs. Even if you didn't want to end the war that we all acknowledge is pointless, there's certainly precedence for FED and KDF and even Roms working together (Narendra III, Dominion War, Omega Fleet missions) even if they're not allied.

    If Starbase building is too daunting for new/smaller fleets, why not come up with a way to fix that system instead of avoiding it?

    Why not fix the problems and do it right instead of half-measures as temporary solutions?
  • qjuniorqjunior Member Posts: 2,023 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    eisenw0lf wrote: »
    Thanks for the explanations, Dan. I'm starting to understand why you settled on these design decisions. As KDF player I completely understand why you wish to prevent a new faction with ever empty queues like the red side. It's a pain to play both Fleet actions and PvP as Klingon. You spend more time waiting than playing (and sometimes you never get to play), and believe me guys, it would have been the same for Romulans. Most people only play Feds and stick to their own queues like Fed vs Fed PvP, that's the way it is in STO :(

    However I completely disagree on crossfaction ships. Who in their right minds would want Romulans roaming around in Federation/Klingon ships? I mean isn't this against CBS own rules? Didn't they say they don't want Feds flying Klingon Birds of Prey but suddenly it's ok to have Romulans having access to EVERY SHIP IN THE GAME?

    The good thing about that ship thing is.... we get to use all those shiny c-store ship consoles... :eek:
  • neoakiraiineoakiraii Member Posts: 7,468 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    So if I'm a Romulan, and get a Fleet K'tinga class...can i paint it like this http://www.starscape.org.uk/gallery/st_pic028.jpg


    Someone had to ask.
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  • sollvaxsollvax Member Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Simple solution

    Delete FvF and KvK pvp entirely

    leave only FvK
    Add FvR and KvR

    kill the queues
    and make open war zone areas (closed instance so not whole sectors)
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  • lizweilizwei Member Posts: 936 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    sollvax wrote: »
    Simple solution

    Delete FvF and KvK pvp entirely

    leave only FvK
    Add FvR and KvR

    kill the queues
    and make open war zone areas (closed instance so not whole sectors)

    No, sorry. Too much like hard work.
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  • goldenlion619goldenlion619 Member Posts: 227 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    sollvax wrote: »
    Simple solution

    Delete FvF and KvK pvp entirely

    leave only FvK
    Add FvR and KvR

    kill the queues
    and make open war zone areas (closed instance so not whole sectors)

    According to Dstal , FvF is more popular and they want to keep it going.
  • tachyonharmonictachyonharmonic Member Posts: 292 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    I still say the biggest problem is what happens at endgame?

    It's acknowledged that at max level everyone will say "why are we fighting each other?", but Romulans will still be stuck as either FED or KDF.

    What happens then? They just stay stuck, never to be true Romulans again?
  • aelfwin1aelfwin1 Member Posts: 2,896 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    tuskin67 wrote: »
    You're thinking of movies.

    game prequels are usually good.

    Actually I was thinking books (Dune) .
    Also if I was thinking movies , I'd be not far off as STO itself is based on a ton of visual media .
    neoakiraii wrote: »
    Still more than what the KDF got at their launch... too soon?

    I expected it sooner !
    You're getting rusty in you trollish ways ... . :P
  • majesticmsfcmajesticmsfc Member Posts: 1,401 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    felderburg wrote: »
    What I asked was not about the variants of ship, it was about COSTUMES, not cruiser / escort / science. Will all the ships have three COSTUME variants? Like nearly all of the Fed / KDF ships? (except for Odyssey, Chimera, Bortasqu', etc. - and why don't they have costume variants?)

    You don't play the KDF do you? Most KDF ships have no costume options, we have no kitbashing options and little variety.
    hypl wrote: »
    Alien-Gen Hybrid? What does that mean? Like alien characters currently? So FED and KDF can make alien characters free but only subscribers or lifers can make aliens in the Romulan Faction?

    Dan Stahl answered this before your post, might be a good idea to read the thread.
    wazzagiow wrote: »
    Feel like its not a 3rd faction at all. Just romulans joining the current 2. March beneath the raptors wings??? March into the arms of the federation or the kdf would be more accurate. Very disappointing. I don't agree at all with your reasoning for this. It's a cop out. And I hate to say that. All that quality hard work for what's not actually a 3rd faction.

    It's sad but it's keeping in line with the treatment that the KDF has recieved for the past three years now, ie, little to no content being half completed. Now Romulan fans are getting the same treatment.

    No one should be surprised, Dan did stated late last year this is how a Romulan faction would be in a Q&A session. I remember reading it, I think it was his Raptr Q&A session.

    Perhaps now those Romulan fans who haven't given a TRIBBLE about the KDF faction will understand and unite with the KDF players to demand for some equality between the factions.
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  • mikeflmikefl Member Posts: 861 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    lan451 wrote: »
    Actually now that I think about it this makes me want to play a Romulan even more. Now that I know I can help build up my fleet's existing bases rather than having to start yet another one, I find that the prospect of rolling a new character doesn't seem so tedious anymore. Me likey.

    Yes I agree... this works well especially for smaller fleets still trying to finish their other bases. It also allows larger fleets to focus on Romulan additions.
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  • qjuniorqjunior Member Posts: 2,023 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    I still say the biggest problem is what happens at endgame?

    It's acknowledged that at max level everyone will say "why are we fighting each other?", but Romulans will still be stuck as either FED or KDF.

    What happens then? They just stay stuck, never to be true Romulans again?

    Each other ? We fight Tholians, Borg and Rival Klingons.... and Epohhs. :D
  • wazzagiowwazzagiow Member Posts: 769 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    would have been better to make remans join kdf and roms fed. but even that isn't a good idea.

    just the idea in general of a faction being divided between 2 other factions prevents it from ever being an actual faction at end game. having a faction flying other factions ships. really dose take away that factions identity. having that faction possible fight against it's self defeats the point of it being a faction at all.
  • qjuniorqjunior Member Posts: 2,023 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    wazzagiow wrote: »
    would have been better to make remans join kdf and roms fed. but even that isn't a good idea.

    just the idea in general of a faction being divided between 2 other factions prevents it from ever being an actual faction at end game. having a faction flying other factions ships. really dose take away that factions identity. having that faction possible fight against it's self defeats the point of it being a faction at all.

    The Romulans should at least get an exclusive social Zone.... Where they can share the secrets and technologies they "stole" from the Federation and the KDF. :)
  • lizweilizwei Member Posts: 936 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    qjunior wrote: »
    The Romulans should at least get an exclusive social Zone.... Where they can share the secrets and technologies they "stole" from the Federation and the KDF. :)

    And I swear if someone else says "New Romulus" I will train eagles to fly off and peck them.
  • darkelfofficerdarkelfofficer Member Posts: 6 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Has anybody pointed out how ludicrous it is for a ship captain in service to a functioning government to be able to choose which side they want to support in a war between other parties?

    It would be like the U.S. government telling its Navy Skippers "Take your ship and fight for North Korea or South Korea, your choice. We don't care."

    That would never, ever happen. The very concept is ludicrous.
  • thepopeofbeersthepopeofbeers Member Posts: 118 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Romulans will get their own faction-exclusive social hub. Don't believe me?
    The Romulan Republic was created from the ground up as a complete new faction. They have their own backstory, their own exclusive missions and episode series, exclusive costumes, faction-exclusive social hub, unique playable species, a full ship progression line from level 1 to 50, unique HUD UI, and more.
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  • qjuniorqjunior Member Posts: 2,023 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    lizwei wrote: »
    And I swear if someone else says "New Romulus" I will train eagles to fly off and peck them.

    New Romulus, or New Grindulus as I call it is really just a fake to fool the Feds and the Klings into giving us their stuff..... we just weaken them with radiation and melt their brains with cute, furry animals (that are delicious btw) . :D
  • wazzagiowwazzagiow Member Posts: 769 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    dan posted his april fools jokes a couple of days early... so it would appear
  • captainmal3captainmal3 Member Posts: 436 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Has anybody pointed out how ludicrous it is for a ship captain in service to a functioning government to be able to choose which side they want to support in a war between other parties?

    It would be like the U.S. government telling its Navy Skippers "Take your ship and fight for North Korea or South Korea, your choice. We don't care."

    That would never, ever happen. The very concept is ludicrous.

    Apparently, we're civilians. Where the heck a civilian gets a warbird I couldn't begin to guess.
  • sollvaxsollvax Member Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    A secret planet called "Eagles nest" is my suggestion
    round it could be thousands and thousands of turrets designed to fire on any Cloaked Federation ship or other intruder

    There Romulans could gather and eat strange cubic food (remember the episode??)
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  • qjuniorqjunior Member Posts: 2,023 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    sollvax wrote: »
    A secret planet called "Eagles nest" is my suggestion
    round it could be thousands and thousands of turrets designed to fire on any Cloaked Federation ship or other intruder

    There Romulans could gather and eat strange cubic food (remember the episode??)

    The one where Picard is abducted and being manipulated by a Bolian Ensign, who really just,,,,, omg, nerd alert ! :eek::D
  • darkelfofficerdarkelfofficer Member Posts: 6 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Apparently, we're civilians. Where the heck a civilian gets a warbird I couldn't begin to guess.

    So it's not a Romulan faction. It's space pirates.
  • lizweilizwei Member Posts: 936 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    qjunior wrote: »
    New Romulus, or New Grindulus as I call it is really just a fake to fool the Feds and the Klings into giving us their stuff..... we just weaken them with radiation and melt their brains with cute, furry animals (that are delicious btw) . :D

    Romulan Ambassador:"The Romulan Star Empire will be happy to take in your wayward vessels."

    Federation Ambassador: "The Star Empire? I thought you guys dissolved and joined us?"

    Romulan Ambassador: "YES THAT'S WHAT WE WANTED YOU TO THINK!!!"

    *Romulan national anthem blares, Tal'Shiar banners and troops appear all over New Romulus, the neutral zone borders fill with Romulan ships, Tomalak bursts through a wall and starts chasing Federations and Klingons who were chasing epohhs*

    Tomalak: "MUST CRUSH REUNIFICASIONISTS. GRRR!"
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