Does anyone outside of the developers actually feel like this is a legitimate 3rd faction?
Or are we all pretty much in consensus that it feels like a partial faction being grafted onto the other two?
No we aren't, I'm still happy with this and I'm glad I don't have to grind up a third base. And if you look at the long complaint thread in the general board that was recently merged out of the 20 smaller threads, it's only 10 or so people going back and forth that make 90% of the posts there. I'm not saying they are wrong or that their concerns aren't valid, just that the amount of outrage can look bigger than it actually is if you go by the forum. (As usual).
Dan made a good point. Once you levelled your char out, doing STFs and fleet events is really no different if you are playing FED or KDF. I can get that same experience with a new Romulan.
Romulans have their own exclusive new ship class and combat mechanic, their own exclusive storyline and episodes, their own exclusive costumes, ther own exclusive ship costumes, and a leveling experience that is very similar to what the Feds had a launch prior to all the Feature Episode Series and not limited to just the 1-10 "starting area" like Pandaran are. Romulans have far more exlusive content than that, and the fact that we then give you all of the stuff from your chosen ally gives you twice as much which is the "best of two worlds" idea.
There's a lot of negativity flying around, I don't feel like being negative today. I choose to be positive. History, blah blah blah, all of that side.. thank you for Warbirds. The screenshot of the D'deridex is absolutely gorgeous, mad props to whoever was in charge of that design. I love it.
Also it's been a while since I've heard the "it's just a video game" excuse.
Videogames have long since proven themselves as mediums for effective and consistent storytelling.
The number of Foundry missions that have gotten 1-starred because they had "too much talk, not enough explosions" would seem to contradict your argument.
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Keep in mind that the team has been hard at work on this expansion and this remains an entirely FREE expansion. We are not charging for it. It will be a free download when the expansion hits. So with that in mind, try it for yourself and see what you think without any risk. This isn't a $50 expansion that you have to buy up front in order to play. Yes there will be plenty of additional items in the store later on to enhance the experience (we are a business), but you will be able to play a Romulan from 1-50 as a free player.
Well personally, I'd rather pay for an expansion/faction that was done fully. Rather then get something that seems half-assed for free.
I am sorry there are others that feel cheated, betrayed, or are otherwise disappointed with the new Romulan faction.
Speaking for myself, after reading the additional handful of posts from dstahl in this thread, and I have to say I'm intrigued by the "prequel"-nature of the Romulan storyline. A lot of what he's replied here makes sense to me.
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Man, I can't wait to get my Green on!
I think I'm going to spend time this weekend replaying the existing Romulan missions, you know, just to get warmed up. Heh.
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Dan, you keep talking about how the romulans are a proper faction because they have their own storyline, except this isn't a single player RPG, it's an MMO. The vast, VAST majority of the game for most players is spent either in social hubs or group content (STFs, fleet actions, PVP) all of which is going to be chosen based on which faction we choose to ally ourselves with. Getting to play a few hours worth of romulan only storyline missions doesn't change the fact that everything else is tied in to our chosen ally.
The Federation and KDF both have access to nearly all the same end game events, stfs, and dailies (with only a few exceptions).
The only difference between the Fed and the KDF is that they have different queues and team rules for those missions, and the KDF already have problems filling out their queues.
Adding a third splinter to that end game content would only make things worse for everyone. That is not healthy for the MMO.
Since everyone has access to the same end game content, then it makes more sense from our business perspective to allow ROMs to join FED or KDF queues as if they are all cross faction. All of this AFTER they've completed their own exclusive progression.
The only big impact this has is on the future of PVP and for now, the plan is to remain 2v2 because we haven't been able to get that working very well as it is. Trying to add a 3rd faction to pvp would be premature for where the game is at right now.
Silly? If the Romulan Republic was a faction without starbases, that'd be one thing.
They're not a faction *at all*, they're split between the two existing factions, working for them. That they have race-exclusive ships and a race-exclusive story arc is meaningless, it just makes them a fancier version of playable Federation Klingons.
No, they;re their own faction USING one of the other two factions to advance their own goals (stopping Sela and the Tal Shiar from further subverting the former Romulan Empire; as they see it.) <--- That comes across as 'Romulan' to me, as the Romulans have never had an issue using others to achieve their own goals if expedient.
Now, I CAN understand some Romulan fans being upset because they want to play on the side of Sela and the Tal Shiar (and that's a fair point) - but in the end, it was done the way it was for STO so they could still use the existing Romulan Rep system; and other already made missions and assest (should a Romulan player decide they do want to play those missions too) without having to massively re-tool the existing content.
In effect it's a compromise to allow them to insert another faction without having to massively re-work existing content (and thereby focusing on new content across the board.)
Some players may not like that decision, but from a business perspective, I can understand why it was done; and it won't stop me from making at least one Romulan character. YMMV.
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The number of Foundry missions that have gotten 1-starred because they had "too much talk, not enough explosions" would seem to contradict your argument.
And yet the highest rated are those with substance and storyline.
That there are a lot of one-starring trolls means little.
Did you miss the part where Mr. Stahl said they were putting down stakes about it being a two-faction game?
Yep that is also known as compoundng you mistake or painting yourself in a corner .
I realize there are limitations on video games and was expecting news that would be disappointing regarding the Romulans, but so far their reasoning sounds like "we wanted to half-TRIBBLE it".
Noooo .... , fo shizzle yo ?
Oh well , Enter Not Season 8 , with Not Romulan Faction . There is a linear logic there I suppose .
The Federation and KDF both have access to nearly all the same end game events, stfs, and dailies (with only a few exceptions).
The only difference between the Fed and the KDF is that they have different queues and team rules for those missions, and the KDF already have problems filling out their queues.
Adding a third splinter to that end game content would only make things worse for everyone. That is not healthy for the MMO.
Since everyone has access to the same end game content, then it makes more sense from our business perspective to allow ROMs to join FED or KDF queues as if they are all cross faction. All of this AFTER they've completed their own exclusive progression.
The only big impact this has is on the future of PVP and for now, the plan is to remain 2v2 because we haven't been able to get that working very well as it is. Trying to add a 3rd faction to pvp would be premature for where the game is at right now.
I have yet to hear what exactly the KDF will be getting in the May update. You keep saying "Full 1-50 content", but you aren't being specific as to WHAT that will be. If all the KDF is getting, is a KDF tutorial and nothing more, then that is further shafting the KDF faction. Isn't 3 years enough of shafting the KDF?
No, they;re their own faction USING one of the other two factions to advance their own goals (stopping Sela and the Tal Shiar from further subverting the former Romulan Empire; as they see it.) <--- That comes across as 'Romulan' to me, as the Romulans have never had an issue using others to achieve their own goals if expedient.
By permanently joining a faction and following their orders. Yeah, sure.
We're not talking about an alliance of convenience are we?
Some players may not like that decision, but from a business perspective, I can understand why it was done; and it won't stop me from making at least one Romulan character. YMMV.
I'm sure it's good business to turn someone like me, a regular contributor of money into someone who won't give them a penny more.
Assuming that good business in this case means "I want to go to bankruptcy court!"
Because many customers have spent money to purchase exclusive ships and have spent countless hours of effort to build up starbases and fleet holdings. We are trying to be as open as possible with the Romulans to respect the investments that have been made in the game. That is why you are seeing people post "thank you for considering that" threads when it comes to Starbases. We haven't ruled out allowing Romulan Starbases in the future, but for now, we're limiting it to existing Fed or KDF faction holdings.
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I am super grateful that you are being thoughtful for the people that spent money on the other factions, but then why is there simply not an option for those of us that did not want to be either fed or kfd, but still spent money just waiting for a Romulan Faction to come?
What of us who want nothing to do with the Feds or the Kdf? and quite honestly and frankly does not putting off Romulan fleets and starbases just make it harder to add in the future? If people want to play KDF there is no "throwback" because they played Fed and spent time and money on that side or vice versa.
You can probably look me up and see that I purchased the Armitage, and flew her only a couple times...and i hadnt logged onto my Fed in MONTHS, and its been MONTHS again. I never expected to get jack on the KDF for that...because it simply was not the same faction, and a faction i didnt care about.
I just dont understand why there is not a choice for those of us that want nothing to do with the KDF or Feds.
Once again... Romulan fleet holdings etc. haven't been ruled out and might come along eventually. I for one am hopeful.
First officer - Captain transfer, useful Andoria with working Ushan-tor duels, separate spawn zones for FED and KDF in Ker'rat... that and many more haven't been ruled out... but do you see any of them after three years?
Im let down but if however the prequel story catches the roms up to speed and the roms are using the current situation to subvert both the KDF and Feds by working both sides to the middle to gain an advantage on both of them.
Thats a story that would be romulan in every sense of the ideal however if its just a rom vassal situation then cryptic should not have bothered.
Would it be possible to have a "no thanks" option when invited to pick a side (or a "blow it out your ear" for remans)
skipping all that Fleet starbase stuff entirely but remaining pure?
Because frankly a Romulan character for me needs a Canon Romulan ship , all Romulan crew and not a spec of Alien tech in sight (Same as my Federation and Klingon types are faction pure)
No we aren't, I'm still happy with this and I'm glad I don't have to grind up a third base. And if you look at the long complaint thread in the general board that was recently merged out of the 20 smaller threads, it's only 10 or so people going back and forth that make 90% of the posts there. I'm not saying they are wrong or that their concerns aren't valid, just that the amount of outrage can look bigger than it actually is if you go by the forum. (As usual).
Dan made a good point. Once you levelled your char out, doing STFs and fleet events is really no different if you are playing FED or KDF. I can get that same experience with a new Romulan.
Sorry but the majority of what I see is disappointment, and I don't think claiming it's bigger than it really is serves much of a purpose or has much weight to it.
If FED and KDF don't really matter, why have them separate at all then? Why didn't they just use 1 set of starbases instead of separate faction ones? It's fun being a KDF in a KDF fleet, flying KDF ships and having a KDF starbase. Not as much fun being a Romulan in a Federation fleet on a Federation starbase. It takes away their identity.
@Dastahl: I get that. Really, I do, from a business and even gameplay perspective it does make sense. What I have a problem with is the way it's been implemented.
From level 1-49, I get to play as a romulan (for the most part at least) and that's all well and good. But then, I finish the storyline and while technically still a part of the romulan faction, for all practical purposes I'm either a klink or a fed, which makes me wonder why I bothered to roll a romulan in the first place. If you had told us you were making a minifaction to lead in to one or the other, I wouldn't have had a problem, but you kept telling us we were getting a full faction, and THEN gave us effectively a lead-in faction. It just feels like a kick in the teeth after all that build up.
I don't blame you personally and I hope you don't see this as some kind of attack, I'm just trying to make you understand my point. Like I said ealier in the thread, I'm sure I'll play it anyway, it's just not what I'd hoped for.
The Federation and KDF both have access to nearly all the same end game events, stfs, and dailies (with only a few exceptions).
The only difference between the Fed and the KDF is that they have different queues and team rules for those missions, and the KDF already have problems filling out their queues.
Adding a third splinter to that end game content would only make things worse for everyone. That is not healthy for the MMO.
Since everyone has access to the same end game content, then it makes more sense from our business perspective to allow ROMs to join FED or KDF queues as if they are all cross faction. All of this AFTER they've completed their own exclusive progression.
The only big impact this has is on the future of PVP and for now, the plan is to remain 2v2 because we haven't been able to get that working very well as it is. Trying to add a 3rd faction to pvp would be premature for where the game is at right now.
Then why not allow Romulans to join either the Fed or Kdf ques, but not have to permanently choose to ally with one or the other...you know today I think those uppity federation peeps deserve some D'deridex shoved down their throat...and maybe tomorrow I think ill turn on the KDF for old times sake?
The Federation and KDF both have access to nearly all the same end game events, stfs, and dailies (with only a few exceptions).
The only difference between the Fed and the KDF is that they have different queues and team rules for those missions, and the KDF already have problems filling out their queues.
Adding a third splinter to that end game content would only make things worse for everyone. That is not healthy for the MMO.
Since everyone has access to the same end game content, then it makes more sense from our business perspective to allow ROMs to join FED or KDF queues as if they are all cross faction. All of this AFTER they've completed their own exclusive progression.
The only big impact this has is on the future of PVP and for now, the plan is to remain 2v2 because we haven't been able to get that working very well as it is. Trying to add a 3rd faction to pvp would be premature for where the game is at right now.
Good call, a complete 3rd faction it's really premature having a weaker KDF.
The Romulan Republic storyline is a prequel to the events of the Romulan FE series and the establishment of New Romulus.
So at the time that the player chooses a faction, it makes sense and does not "extend the war" any more than it already has. Both factions embassies do not get established on New Romulus until after the Romulan exclusive storyline concludes and now you'll get to see how and why that happened.
At the end of Cutting the Cord we see Sela taken by the Iconians and both factions now realize there is more going on.
During the New Romulan Reputation is when we realize there is an Iconian gateway on New Romulus and that there is a lot more history here than we may have realized.
So by the time the Romulan Republic player gets to max level and experiences all of this, they will be caught up to the current state of the war and puts all factions at the same point for the upcoming episodes and seasons where we can now have everyone on equal footing to say "why are we fighting each other?" and reveal some of the bigger threats in the galaxy. These aren't events that take place AFTER everything we've already seen, these are episodes and stories that take place BEFORE and during the lead up to the events where we learn about the bigger threats. The Romulans backstory and the discovery of the gate on New Romulus will now provide much more story to what needs to happen next.
I must say, that's ingenious. And if and when you decide to have the Romulans coalesce into a new faction, you could easily write in more episodes describing that (and even give Rom players a choice of joining the new unified Rom faction, or staying with the Fed or KDF).
I have yet to hear what exactly the KDF will be getting in the May update. You keep saying "Full 1-50 content", but you aren't being specific as to WHAT that will be. If all the KDF is getting, is a KDF tutorial and nothing more, then that is further shafting the KDF faction. Isn't 3 years enough of shafting the KDF?
The new Klingon leveling progression will be available on TRIBBLE around the first week of May. We're in the process of readjusting all of the Klingon levels, moving episodes around, adding in the ships, and then adding in the new KLG episodes including the Nimbus adventure zone. Once we've finalized the final progression, we'll post it for you to play and see.
Unlike everyone else here in this forum, I welcome what Dan and the other developers are doing, and I look forward to seeing the gameplay that being a Romulan has to offer.
I must say, that's ingenious. And if and when you decide to have the Romulans coalesce into a new faction, you could easily write in more episodes describing that (and even give Rom players a choice of joining the new unified Rom faction, or staying with the Fed or KDF).
With the added benefit that Romulan players could then abandon their fleets and start their starbases at 0......many months or years later instead of May this year. :P
Because many customers have spent money to purchase exclusive ships and have spent countless hours of effort to build up starbases and fleet holdings. We are trying to be as open as possible with the Romulans to respect the investments that have been made in the game. That is why you are seeing people post "thank you for considering that" threads when it comes to Starbases. We haven't ruled out allowing Romulan Starbases in the future, but for now, we're limiting it to existing Fed or KDF faction holdings.Playing as New Romulan means that you'll be playing a prequel storyline where we establish the Romulan Republic and all of the events that lead up to New Romulus and the Romulan Feature Episode Series. You'll have exclusive content all the way from start up through that point and if then choose to say "done". You will have had an experience just as valid as the Fed had at the launch of the game. If you want to then continue on with end game, then you'll have access to all of the Feature Episode series, Events, and Dailies that everyone else has - there's not much exclusive to anyone in that content.
But play it for yourself when it comes out, or play it on TRIBBLE. It is free. Make your own choice if you want to play a Romulan after you dig into it and see all that is there.
i'm 1 of them dan if only you knew how much I've put in to this game.
I think every one expected to start fresh in the new 3rd faction that was coming. maybe was prepared for it. the only thing people was seemingly overly concerned with is will players mostly f2p players get 1 free slot for the new faction. not oh no i'll have to work hard in the faction I've always wanted to play.
but that never really answer what said. since we have our own ships, why would a rom need a fed ship? it makes no sense for a rom to be in a vesta or a defiant since they are federation ships. it's a bit flawed your reasoning as you could say why can't my kdf have my fed vesta since I spent money on it. exactly a stupid idea.
Its your guys game , but I disagree with your company's decisions. It should of been a new independent faction in my opinion. Three way pvp would of been cool, but Fed vs Fed is what you guys want in the game leaving out the KDF. There was a lot of buzz on other gaming sites about the expansion but this will not go over well with players that where thinking of coming back to STO or trying it. Im willing to try it but not happy at the moment about this decision.
this is where cryptic has really missed what they have made. the hype and the buzz about a romulan faction was in many peoples minds was a 3rd stand alone faction. since playing beta I have never known such a buzz about something in the game. 3 way pvp would have been cooler than ice cold.
I think you've got this romulans join the fed/kdf part so badly wrong, in all my online gaming days it's up there with swg and the nge.
I must say, that's ingenious. And if and when you decide to have the Romulans coalesce into a new faction, you could easily write in more episodes describing that (and even give Rom players a choice of joining the new unified Rom faction, or staying with the Fed or KDF).
Good god in heaven.
Given the justifications he's making now about "player and fleet investment" do you honestly think that they will ever, EVER change the status quo after this?
If they're not making an independent Romulan faction now, they will never make one in the future.
Am I clairvoyant? No, I'm just seeing the obvious. They don't want to "deny" people the stuff "they've paid and worked for" (even though it's all clearly labelled "FED/KDF ONLY"), there is no way they will ever "rock the boat" at a later period and have established Fed/KDF Romulans move onto a full Romulan faction.
Will. Never. Happen. "Ingenious". Sure. I was unaware ingenious has become a synonym for lazy.
launching what is essentially a sub-faction u gonna be building up to a full faction seems logical in a sence but people were wanting and expecting a full faction from the start so they would have more to do than what they have and would be having for being a sub-faction. this rom faction storyline might be interesting thou
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I suggest "We are... back! If... if that's alright with you, glorious Federation/Klingon masters."
No we aren't, I'm still happy with this and I'm glad I don't have to grind up a third base. And if you look at the long complaint thread in the general board that was recently merged out of the 20 smaller threads, it's only 10 or so people going back and forth that make 90% of the posts there. I'm not saying they are wrong or that their concerns aren't valid, just that the amount of outrage can look bigger than it actually is if you go by the forum. (As usual).
Dan made a good point. Once you levelled your char out, doing STFs and fleet events is really no different if you are playing FED or KDF. I can get that same experience with a new Romulan.
I'm waiting for the big KDF reveal that levels 1-20 is the tutorial.
Because one thing's for sure - the KDF will be getting a lot less than the Romulans.
Once again... Romulan fleet holdings etc. haven't been ruled out and might come along eventually. I for one am hopeful.
There's a lot of negativity flying around, I don't feel like being negative today. I choose to be positive. History, blah blah blah, all of that side.. thank you for Warbirds. The screenshot of the D'deridex is absolutely gorgeous, mad props to whoever was in charge of that design. I love it.
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"We are...back...almost...sorta kinda..maybe"
The number of Foundry missions that have gotten 1-starred because they had "too much talk, not enough explosions" would seem to contradict your argument.
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Well personally, I'd rather pay for an expansion/faction that was done fully. Rather then get something that seems half-assed for free.
Speaking for myself, after reading the additional handful of posts from dstahl in this thread, and I have to say I'm intrigued by the "prequel"-nature of the Romulan storyline. A lot of what he's replied here makes sense to me.
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Man, I can't wait to get my Green on!
I think I'm going to spend time this weekend replaying the existing Romulan missions, you know, just to get warmed up. Heh.
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The Federation and KDF both have access to nearly all the same end game events, stfs, and dailies (with only a few exceptions).
The only difference between the Fed and the KDF is that they have different queues and team rules for those missions, and the KDF already have problems filling out their queues.
Adding a third splinter to that end game content would only make things worse for everyone. That is not healthy for the MMO.
Since everyone has access to the same end game content, then it makes more sense from our business perspective to allow ROMs to join FED or KDF queues as if they are all cross faction. All of this AFTER they've completed their own exclusive progression.
The only big impact this has is on the future of PVP and for now, the plan is to remain 2v2 because we haven't been able to get that working very well as it is. Trying to add a 3rd faction to pvp would be premature for where the game is at right now.
No, they;re their own faction USING one of the other two factions to advance their own goals (stopping Sela and the Tal Shiar from further subverting the former Romulan Empire; as they see it.) <--- That comes across as 'Romulan' to me, as the Romulans have never had an issue using others to achieve their own goals if expedient.
Now, I CAN understand some Romulan fans being upset because they want to play on the side of Sela and the Tal Shiar (and that's a fair point) - but in the end, it was done the way it was for STO so they could still use the existing Romulan Rep system; and other already made missions and assest (should a Romulan player decide they do want to play those missions too) without having to massively re-tool the existing content.
In effect it's a compromise to allow them to insert another faction without having to massively re-work existing content (and thereby focusing on new content across the board.)
Some players may not like that decision, but from a business perspective, I can understand why it was done; and it won't stop me from making at least one Romulan character. YMMV.
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And yet the highest rated are those with substance and storyline.
That there are a lot of one-starring trolls means little.
Yep that is also known as compoundng you mistake or painting yourself in a corner .
Noooo .... , fo shizzle yo ?
Oh well , Enter Not Season 8 , with Not Romulan Faction . There is a linear logic there I suppose .
I have yet to hear what exactly the KDF will be getting in the May update. You keep saying "Full 1-50 content", but you aren't being specific as to WHAT that will be. If all the KDF is getting, is a KDF tutorial and nothing more, then that is further shafting the KDF faction. Isn't 3 years enough of shafting the KDF?
By permanently joining a faction and following their orders. Yeah, sure.
We're not talking about an alliance of convenience are we?
I'm sure it's good business to turn someone like me, a regular contributor of money into someone who won't give them a penny more.
Assuming that good business in this case means "I want to go to bankruptcy court!"
I am super grateful that you are being thoughtful for the people that spent money on the other factions, but then why is there simply not an option for those of us that did not want to be either fed or kfd, but still spent money just waiting for a Romulan Faction to come?
What of us who want nothing to do with the Feds or the Kdf? and quite honestly and frankly does not putting off Romulan fleets and starbases just make it harder to add in the future? If people want to play KDF there is no "throwback" because they played Fed and spent time and money on that side or vice versa.
You can probably look me up and see that I purchased the Armitage, and flew her only a couple times...and i hadnt logged onto my Fed in MONTHS, and its been MONTHS again. I never expected to get jack on the KDF for that...because it simply was not the same faction, and a faction i didnt care about.
I just dont understand why there is not a choice for those of us that want nothing to do with the KDF or Feds.
First officer - Captain transfer, useful Andoria with working Ushan-tor duels, separate spawn zones for FED and KDF in Ker'rat... that and many more haven't been ruled out... but do you see any of them after three years?
Thats a story that would be romulan in every sense of the ideal however if its just a rom vassal situation then cryptic should not have bothered.
skipping all that Fleet starbase stuff entirely but remaining pure?
Because frankly a Romulan character for me needs a Canon Romulan ship , all Romulan crew and not a spec of Alien tech in sight (Same as my Federation and Klingon types are faction pure)
Sorry but the majority of what I see is disappointment, and I don't think claiming it's bigger than it really is serves much of a purpose or has much weight to it.
If FED and KDF don't really matter, why have them separate at all then? Why didn't they just use 1 set of starbases instead of separate faction ones? It's fun being a KDF in a KDF fleet, flying KDF ships and having a KDF starbase. Not as much fun being a Romulan in a Federation fleet on a Federation starbase. It takes away their identity.
This is really a messy way of doing things.
From level 1-49, I get to play as a romulan (for the most part at least) and that's all well and good. But then, I finish the storyline and while technically still a part of the romulan faction, for all practical purposes I'm either a klink or a fed, which makes me wonder why I bothered to roll a romulan in the first place. If you had told us you were making a minifaction to lead in to one or the other, I wouldn't have had a problem, but you kept telling us we were getting a full faction, and THEN gave us effectively a lead-in faction. It just feels like a kick in the teeth after all that build up.
I don't blame you personally and I hope you don't see this as some kind of attack, I'm just trying to make you understand my point. Like I said ealier in the thread, I'm sure I'll play it anyway, it's just not what I'd hoped for.
Then why not allow Romulans to join either the Fed or Kdf ques, but not have to permanently choose to ally with one or the other...you know today I think those uppity federation peeps deserve some D'deridex shoved down their throat...and maybe tomorrow I think ill turn on the KDF for old times sake?
Good call, a complete 3rd faction it's really premature having a weaker KDF.
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The new Klingon leveling progression will be available on TRIBBLE around the first week of May. We're in the process of readjusting all of the Klingon levels, moving episodes around, adding in the ships, and then adding in the new KLG episodes including the Nimbus adventure zone. Once we've finalized the final progression, we'll post it for you to play and see.
With the added benefit that Romulan players could then abandon their fleets and start their starbases at 0......many months or years later instead of May this year. :P
i'm 1 of them dan if only you knew how much I've put in to this game.
I think every one expected to start fresh in the new 3rd faction that was coming. maybe was prepared for it. the only thing people was seemingly overly concerned with is will players mostly f2p players get 1 free slot for the new faction. not oh no i'll have to work hard in the faction I've always wanted to play.
but that never really answer what said. since we have our own ships, why would a rom need a fed ship? it makes no sense for a rom to be in a vesta or a defiant since they are federation ships. it's a bit flawed your reasoning as you could say why can't my kdf have my fed vesta since I spent money on it. exactly a stupid idea.
this is where cryptic has really missed what they have made. the hype and the buzz about a romulan faction was in many peoples minds was a 3rd stand alone faction. since playing beta I have never known such a buzz about something in the game. 3 way pvp would have been cooler than ice cold.
I think you've got this romulans join the fed/kdf part so badly wrong, in all my online gaming days it's up there with swg and the nge.
Good god in heaven.
Given the justifications he's making now about "player and fleet investment" do you honestly think that they will ever, EVER change the status quo after this?
If they're not making an independent Romulan faction now, they will never make one in the future.
Am I clairvoyant? No, I'm just seeing the obvious. They don't want to "deny" people the stuff "they've paid and worked for" (even though it's all clearly labelled "FED/KDF ONLY"), there is no way they will ever "rock the boat" at a later period and have established Fed/KDF Romulans move onto a full Romulan faction.
Will. Never. Happen. "Ingenious". Sure. I was unaware ingenious has become a synonym for lazy.