Why didn't you guys come out and say it was just playable romulans for fed and kdf? why give the false misleading impression it was a faction?
Why bother with all the faction stuff at all?
This is my thinking as well. What has been explained to us is not a faction. It is more like a featured story that takes place over levels for the UFP and KDF players. :mad:
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Why didn't you guys come out and say it was just playable romulans for fed and kdf? why give the false misleading impression it was a faction?
Why bother with all the faction stuff at all?
Because it is a faction. You get your own storyline missions, ships, etc. All you don't have are specific endgame content (which the others don't have either) and specific Romulan fleets (which may be coming in the future).
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Their missions are common, Fed and KDF players have access to "RR" missions, the only diference is you need someone to share the mission with you.
Share, not play it ... its just having someone share, leave group and its on your log.
Wrong. From the Ask Cryptic:
"The Romulan Republic was created from the ground up as a complete new faction. They have their own backstory, their own exclusive missions and episode series, exclusive costumes, faction-exclusive social hub, unique playable species, a full ship progression line from level 1 to 50, unique HUD UI, and more."
"Exclusive" means the missions are theirs alone. Except for the FEs, of course.
Duty Officer system is either Fed or KDF, that is what you pick (and I suppose this extends to rewards, that means Enemy Faction BO and in Fed case, the Ambassador outfit unlock), they dont have their own.
From the Ask Cryptic:
"In addition to adding Romulan Republic Duty Officers to existing packs in the game, Romulan Republic captains will gain access to the Duty Officers packs of their chosen ally."
Unless that means RR Doffs get added to Klingon and Federation packs (which seems unlikely, albeit not impossible), RR Doffs get their own packs.
Ships ... they have their own AND their "allied" ships, that means the Excelsior, Defiant, Vor'cha, etc ... the only LIMIT is their faction, sorry "alliance".
So they have access to another faction's ships. I don't see how that disqualifies them as a faction.
And how you unring the bell that is faction specific uniforms? Or Zen Shop ships?
Romulans have both. From the Ask Cryptic:
"There will be ships at every level that can be gained for in game currency as well as Dilithium and C-Store ships. Captains will unlock new costumes in-game as they progress through the story as well as have premium costumes that can be purchased in the c-store."
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While I can understand the need for the Romulans to be drawn in to the Fed-KDF conflict, I would have like the option to remain neutral, allied to neither side. Would have made for an interesting true sole faction. And better story line as the two side would have to work hard to entice you to their side of the fight.
UNLESS....... There is a defection system in the works.
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While I can understand the need for the Romulans to be drawn in to the Fed-KDF conflict, I would have like the option to remain neutral, allied to neither side. Would have made for an interesting true sole faction. And better story line as the two side would have to work hard to entice you to their side of the fight.
UNLESS....... There is a defection system in the works.
I doubt it highly it is what it is and cryptic is happy with mediocrity
They missed a real chance to make this game stand above the others
But they only did this half baked job and want everyone to be happy with it.
This was a marketing ploy plain and simple to sell keys
Make roms with species specific ships
Make rom lock boxes so everyone can have rom ships
Buy keys please is the theme.
This is the path cryptic has taken and its not about canon or happy playerbase its about the money they can fleece from the sheeple that will buy the keys.
"All this leaves me with a sneaking suspicion that the new Romulan faction will be somehow split in two. The current Romulan storyline kind of lends itself to this theory, as well as this quote from the announcement "Gather allies, go undercover and find the proof that will rally your people to revolt."
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Gee, I guess I was right...couldn't imagine it any other way than to have Roms choose either Fed or KDf for the bulk of their time in-game.
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What part of Romulan Republic Duty officers says its anything BUT DOFFs, we have Romulan DOFFS in the game already, its just adding more to the packs.
Also what part of "existing packs" you dont want to read?
I'm just speculating that by "existing packs" Dstahl means the same system they use for faction-specific packs. I could always be wrong, but that's what I think.
Because it kills their identity, we dont have KDF flying Wells ships as we dont have Feds flying Birds-of-Prey, Romulans will for what reason?
When I brought a Defiant I certainly did not expected I would get to use it on the KDF ... yet I can use it with a Romulan?
KDF and Fed have their own shipyards, there is no cross faction access to them ... yet Romulans can bypass that for no reason also this brings up the issue of Romulans flying Imperial Guard ships, something that is Andorian ... and for that matter Caitian Atrox carriers.
And you dont have a problem with that?
I never said I don't have a problem with it. I just don't think that necessarily disqualifies them from being a faction.
If you don't want to fly a Klingon or Fed ship for your Romulan, fine. Grab the free Romulan ships at each rank, and/or buy better ones from the C-store. Nobody's forcing you to fly your allied faction's ships. And I doubt many Romulan players will choose to do so either.
Oh, Uniforms ... you mean like the Federation Romulan Uniform and the Klingon Romulan uniform? they are also faction locked to their "allied with" ... meaning those ARENT Romulan uniforms because access to then DEPENDS on being on Fed or KDF.
I'm pretty sure there are "Romulan Republic standard uniforms" as well. They wouldn't force you to wear your ally's uniforms.
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It's not that simple. The way I understand the changes to the way teaming works, FEDs will be able to team with KDF players and go help kill Molor. Yeah... That cross-faction thing you're ranting about isn't unique to collaboration between Romulans and their allies. It's a new game feature seperate from that.
It's not that simple. The way I understand the changes to the way teaming works, FEDs will be able to team with KDF players and go help kill Molor. Yeah... That cross-faction thing you're ranting about isn't unique to collaboration between Romulans and their allies. It's a new game feature seperate from that.
They're not making any changes to how teaming works (none that have been stated yet anyway) - remember, Dan considers Romulans a faction so what he's talking about is KDF-allied Roms inviting KDF to their missions.
Likewise, Fed-allied Roms can invite Feds to theirs.
But Fed-Roms can't invite KDF (or even KDF Roms) to their team until/if the teaming mechanic changes.
Their missions are common, Fed and KDF players have access to "RR" missions, the only diference is you need someone to share the mission with you.
Share, not play it ... its just having someone share, leave group and its on your log.
Duty Officer system is either Fed or KDF, that is what you pick (and I suppose this extends to rewards, that means Enemy Faction BO and in Fed case, the Ambassador outfit unlock), they dont have their own.
Ships ... they have their own AND their "allied" ships, that means the Excelsior, Defiant, Vor'cha, etc ... the only LIMIT is their faction, sorry "alliance".
And how you unring the bell that is faction specific uniforms? Or Zen Shop ships?
You people fail to understand the problem.
This is the problem, they screwed up with the Fleet system and its very much loathed by players and people are fed up on a YEARLY grind but they dont want to fix the problem.
Cryptic doesnt fix problems, they create new ones ... things that dont work are just abandoned until they come up with a new system and then they put it in there (example: The Vault Fleet Action) and perhaps it works, perhaps it doesnt ... as my name says I come at F2P but before that they had many currencies, when Dilithium that was totally not a attempt to be gold sellers themselves *wink*, really! *wink*wink* come about it was to "simplify the currencies", there was EC, Latinum and Dilithium at F2P launch ... now we have to add Fleet Credits, Fleet Marks, Omega Marks and Romulan Marks, in May we are getting Tholian Marks.
Hoe many emblems and marks were there before? sure the system MIGHT not have worked because they never FIXED the problem but we are heading there now in terms of number of currencies.
Now were this affects the Romulan Non-faction?
Because they are setting it in a way its not a faction and they cannot unrig that bell later, it gives too much away, you get to keep your Defiants, Vestas and what else you have on your Zen Store with the only LIMIT being FACTION and that is KDF/Fed FACTION.
this is great yet kdf and feds can only use there own ships same should go for roms unless its for a specific mission... sharing tech is one thing like weapons or cloaks but ships should never be shared even if only the romulans can use them .. on the other hand i see no prob for romulans to share shuttles that alone is different but starships should be off limits ..
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This is my thinking as well. What has been explained to us is not a faction. It is more like a featured story that takes place over levels for the UFP and KDF players. :mad:
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Because it is a faction. You get your own storyline missions, ships, etc. All you don't have are specific endgame content (which the others don't have either) and specific Romulan fleets (which may be coming in the future).
Romulus wasn't built in a day, guys.
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Wrong. From the Ask Cryptic:
"The Romulan Republic was created from the ground up as a complete new faction. They have their own backstory, their own exclusive missions and episode series, exclusive costumes, faction-exclusive social hub, unique playable species, a full ship progression line from level 1 to 50, unique HUD UI, and more."
"Exclusive" means the missions are theirs alone. Except for the FEs, of course.
From the Ask Cryptic:
"In addition to adding Romulan Republic Duty Officers to existing packs in the game, Romulan Republic captains will gain access to the Duty Officers packs of their chosen ally."
Unless that means RR Doffs get added to Klingon and Federation packs (which seems unlikely, albeit not impossible), RR Doffs get their own packs.
So they have access to another faction's ships. I don't see how that disqualifies them as a faction.
Romulans have both. From the Ask Cryptic:
"There will be ships at every level that can be gained for in game currency as well as Dilithium and C-Store ships. Captains will unlock new costumes in-game as they progress through the story as well as have premium costumes that can be purchased in the c-store."
"Critics who say that the optimistic utopia Star Trek depicted is now outmoded forget the cultural context that gave birth to it: Star Trek was not a manifestation of optimism when optimism was easy. Star Trek declared a hope for a future that nobody stuck in the present could believe in. For all our struggles today, we haven’t outgrown the need for stories like Star Trek. We need tales of optimism, of heroes, of courage and goodness now as much as we’ve ever needed them."
-Thomas Marrone
UNLESS....... There is a defection system in the works.
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I doubt it highly it is what it is and cryptic is happy with mediocrity
They missed a real chance to make this game stand above the others
But they only did this half baked job and want everyone to be happy with it.
This was a marketing ploy plain and simple to sell keys
Make roms with species specific ships
Make rom lock boxes so everyone can have rom ships
Buy keys please is the theme.
This is the path cryptic has taken and its not about canon or happy playerbase its about the money they can fleece from the sheeple that will buy the keys.
Someone out there knows the answer to these questions. I am only a humble player who is considering all possibilities"
Gee, I guess I was right...couldn't imagine it any other way than to have Roms choose either Fed or KDf for the bulk of their time in-game.
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Missed that part. My bad.
I'm just speculating that by "existing packs" Dstahl means the same system they use for faction-specific packs. I could always be wrong, but that's what I think.
I never said I don't have a problem with it. I just don't think that necessarily disqualifies them from being a faction.
If you don't want to fly a Klingon or Fed ship for your Romulan, fine. Grab the free Romulan ships at each rank, and/or buy better ones from the C-store. Nobody's forcing you to fly your allied faction's ships. And I doubt many Romulan players will choose to do so either.
Because you want to fly Romulan ships. I think you've made that quite clear.
I'm pretty sure there are "Romulan Republic standard uniforms" as well. They wouldn't force you to wear your ally's uniforms.
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Also... I'm not quite sure just how many missions this crossfaction teaming applies to.
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They're not making any changes to how teaming works (none that have been stated yet anyway) - remember, Dan considers Romulans a faction so what he's talking about is KDF-allied Roms inviting KDF to their missions.
Likewise, Fed-allied Roms can invite Feds to theirs.
But Fed-Roms can't invite KDF (or even KDF Roms) to their team until/if the teaming mechanic changes.
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