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  • webdeathwebdeath Member Posts: 1,570 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    When they fix This: http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=561841

    And This: http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=561811

    It might make the ship more fun to fly, especially for my Engi using the "Coffin of Doom" mode aka 3 Tac Boffs. :P

    But right now with those two bugs they are crippling it.

    Also, as I figured, the 3 Piece set bonus and the Wing Cannons are pretty much a Gimmick. They aren't that great. And in PVP really take up way too much on the ship to be viable. Even if you wanted the +10% Accuracy from the 2 piece, that's 2 consoles your using for it. A weapon slot if you use the Wing Cannons.

    I've found that 5 DHCs and 2 Mines or 5 DHCs + 1 Turret + 1 Mine feels good Damage wise. (And this was on my Engi mind you.. :P)
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  • beefsupreme79beefsupreme79 Member Posts: 234 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    mrgrocer56 wrote: »
    And then whine when certain other fleets and players debut their builds later.

    are u fedbear pvEers actually trying to troll? bring ur shiny to kerrat, see how long it lasts

    we as a faction have every right to voice our displeasure at the severe bias. the constant one faction only releases is destroying the playerbase and the powercreep is becoming more and more noticeable on each new fedbear shiny that klinks get no counter too.

    playing as a klink exclusively for the last 5-6 months has made me a better player because i HAVE to play better to overcome the biased ships

    make no mistake there are great players on both sides, why give all the new toys to only one faction, makes no sense
  • radkipradkip Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    Ok, took the science variant of the Kumari into PvE, Elite STFs for that matter. I'm aware that its shields are bugged as are its healing abilities. But god damn this thing is a piece of glass. I won't be taking it into PvP for awhile.

    I put out so much firepower that I returned to the Tac Cube above Starbase 82 at about 20% and stole aggro back after blowing up (which is just ridiculous unless threat works differently here than it does in WoW). 5x DHC, 4x MK XII Green tac consoles, no points in threat control. This thing is a monster and is so absolutely justifiably squishy.

    Looking forward to seeing this in Ker'rat while I sit cloaked in my Bird of Prey, especially when it has proper backup. :D

    Edit: okay, I lied and took it into pvp. Kaboom. :V
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  • mrgrocer56mrgrocer56 Member Posts: 370 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    are u fedbear pvEers actually trying to troll? bring ur shiny to kerrat, see how long it lasts

    we as a faction have every right to voice our displeasure at the severe bias. the constant one faction only releases is destroying the playerbase and the powercreep is becoming more and more noticeable on each new fedbear shiny that klinks get no counter too.

    playing as a klink exclusively for the last 5-6 months has made me a better player because i HAVE to play better to overcome the biased ships

    make no mistake there are great players on both sides, why give all the new toys to only one faction, makes no sense

    wow haven't ever been called a fedbear pve'er in like ever. Kudos to you, Beef. You are the first in three years. Lighten up, Francis. I have had three Klingon Major Generals years before you started playing this game. I know all about frustration. Why do you think my poor Klinks languish unplayed. Chill out dude.
  • hyprodimushyprodimus Member Posts: 196 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    Can anyone tell me how much damage each of the abilities does? Thanks
  • havamhavam Member Posts: 1,735 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    webdeath wrote: »
    When they fix This: http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=561841

    And This: http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=561811

    It might make the ship more fun to fly, especially for my Engi using the "Coffin of Doom" mode aka 3 Tac Boffs. :P

    But right now with those two bugs they are crippling it.

    Also, as I figured, the 3 Piece set bonus and the Wing Cannons are pretty much a Gimmick. They aren't that great. And in PVP really take up way too much on the ship to be viable. Even if you wanted the +10% Accuracy from the 2 piece, that's 2 consoles your using for it. A weapon slot if you use the Wing Cannons.

    I've found that 5 DHCs and 2 Mines or 5 DHCs + 1 Turret + 1 Mine feels good Damage wise. (And this was on my Engi mind you.. :P)

    Finally engies are viabe again *facepalm*
    Thsi thing blows, once they fix the healing and people keep dieing they ll buff it. 5 frontal weapons on an escort was a very bad move.
  • aspartan1aspartan1 Member Posts: 1,054 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    After testing the ship extensively in PvP using various load-outs against fairly skilled players for several hours we determined this ship as it stands IS a gift to the Klinks; one the Feddies have to pay for sadly enough....

    Pro tip: Klinks get your Breen mines on - nuff said..... Thank me later..... =)
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  • cryox1cryox1 Member Posts: 33 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    That ship is joke.Feds with high expectations crashed into bitter frustrations
    on their first test drives in C&H Kerrat or even Arena.
    Squishy as a Bop:D
  • snoge00fsnoge00f Member Posts: 1,812 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    LOL, you faced bugged ships that weren't getting the full benefit of their heals.

    Let's see what happens once the fixed ships flown by the better escort pilots start flying into Kerrat. ;)
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  • naeviusnaevius Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    The tactical version is pre-etched glass, although I got it through ISE easily enough. I can see it as a specialized tool in arenas with a team supporting it.

    For general use I suppose the engineering version is more practical. >sniff< Goodbye, 5 tac consoles.

    It's no Bug, in any case.

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  • shimmerlessshimmerless Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    So for one night only, the "hardcore" Klinkydinks were all in the queues... because they thought a bugged release was going to give them easy kills? Lol

    And they wonder why FvK is dead!
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  • webdeathwebdeath Member Posts: 1,570 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    Well... She's not bugged any more! I had a BLAST in my Kumari Tac variant with my Engi. :D Tanked very well.. Did nice damage. :D
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  • lordmalak1lordmalak1 Member Posts: 4,681 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    Funny, didn't see a single Andorian anywhere last night, not even in kerrat, tho the spawncamping fed premades couldn't be avoided.
    :(
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  • cryox1cryox1 Member Posts: 33 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    snoge00f wrote: »
    LOL, you faced bugged ships that weren't getting the full benefit of their heals.

    Let's see what happens once the fixed ships flown by the better escort pilots start flying into Kerrat. ;)

    So for one night only, the "hardcore" Klinkydinks were all in the queues... because they thought a bugged release was going to give them easy kills? Lol

    And they wonder why FvK is dead!


    How would i or any other KDF know that the newly released vessel is "bugged"?
    If it wasnt for us klings to put your puny ships and builds to hard tests in pvp battle
    you would probably never have good reason to scream and shout ..."its bugged..please
    fix it....buff it ...boost it... cryptic pls do whatever necessary to somehow insta evaporate those overpowered Klings !":D

    pvp F v K is dead because its a real challenge for any serious pvper.
    Why would the " I m here only for the dil " mentality players go further than F V F
    childplay?
  • shimmerlessshimmerless Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    cryox1 wrote: »
    How would i or any other KDF know that the newly released vessel is "bugged"?
    If it wasnt for us klings to put your puny ships and builds to hard tests in pvp battle
    you would probably never have good reason to scream and shout ..."its bugged..please
    fix it....buff it ...boost it... cryptic pls do whatever necessary to somehow insta evaporate those overpowered Klings !":D

    pvp F v K is dead because its a real challenge for any serious pvper.
    Why would the " I m here only for the dil " mentality players go further than F V F
    childplay?

    No CryoX, I'm pretty sure poor, childish attitudes towards the game like yours (for example, abusing broken DOffs simply because you can) are a good part of why FvK is dead. Personally I don't find FvK much of a challenge and I doubt many other Fed mainers do either.

    It's no coincidence that KvK is always a graveyard and the queues lit up last night.
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  • dontdrunkimshootdontdrunkimshoot Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    No CryoX, I'm pretty sure poor, childish attitudes towards the game like yours (for example, abusing broken DOffs simply because you can) are a good part of why FvK is dead. Personally I don't find FvK much of a challenge and I doubt many other Fed mainers do either.

    It's no coincidence that KvK is always a graveyard and the queues lit up last night.

    broken doffs? doffs are universally exploitable, what doffs are broken currently anyway? out of the 5 or so FvKs i was in last night, i saw only1 andorian ship, people that had them were smart enough not to use them yet.

    theres nightly long periods of time were fvk is very active, it was not unusual last night. kvk only happens when the feds get tired of loseing and stop queing up with kdf.

    have a bad kdf experience? your less likely to run into sci ships and sci captains on the kdf side, i know how much you hate being a nuk magnet. i think facing the kdf is fun in my fed, most kdf teams are pugmade quality, and i have to be extra awesome to kill them faster then they kill my hopeless team mates.
  • shimmerlessshimmerless Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    broken doffs? doffs are universally exploitable, what doffs are broken currently anyway? out of the 5 or so FvKs i was in last night, i saw only1 andorian ship, people that had them were smart enough not to use them yet.

    theres nightly long periods of time were fvk is very active, it was not unusual last night. kvk only happens when the feds get tired of loseing and stop queing up with kdf.

    have a bad kdf experience? your less likely to run into sci ships and sci captains on the kdf side, i know how much you hate being a nuk magnet. i think facing the kdf is fun in my fed, most kdf teams are pugmade quality, and i have to be extra awesome to kill them faster then they kill my hopeless team mates.

    I keep my ears open and I hear a lot... I was mostly just disappointed with some of the things I heard in chat last night. I want factional FvK as much as the next person but you can only blame Cryptic for so much, the right approach has to come from the players too.

    In any case I wish Klink "mainers" the best of luck in finding opponents to actually fight.
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  • shookyangshookyang Member Posts: 1,122
    edited February 2013
    broken doffs? doffs are universally exploitable, what doffs are broken currently anyway?.
    Some still think the SNB doff is.

    But, really, what isn't OP when an entire team is using the same DOFFs, abilities, equipment, ships, etc?
  • dalnar83dalnar83 Member Posts: 2,420 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    Seems I'm not the only one who thinks that FvK queues are recently pretty disgusting and unfun experience. :o
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  • drkfrontiersdrkfrontiers Member Posts: 2,477 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    havam wrote: »
    Finally engies are viabe again *facepalm*
    Thsi thing blows, once they fix the healing and people keep dieing they ll buff it. 5 frontal weapons on an escort was a very bad move.

    This ^ /10+
  • cryox1cryox1 Member Posts: 33 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    No CryoX, I'm pretty sure poor, childish attitudes towards the game like yours (for example, abusing broken DOffs simply because you can) are a good part of why FvK is dead. Personally I don't find FvK much of a challenge and I doubt many other Fed mainers do either.

    It's no coincidence that KvK is always a graveyard and the queues lit up last night.

    Actually K v K can be quite active at times and its a challenging and enjoyable pvp battle.
    We ve aloso done K v K C&H wich was a lot of fun,
    Of course u wouldnt know since you just hide on the safe side playing with your fleet,rarely if ever pugging or playing ur KDF,if u have one that is.
    Accusing players for using something that was introduced by the game developers is an
    invalid and childish argument.Its like saying its the stupid kid that found a loaded gun at home not his dad who put it there in the first place.
    Furthermore the broken doff u are referring to is old soup ,long fixed by now but hey
    you feel the need to bring it up somehow to justify your abstinence from the KDF pvp queues.
    There is always something broken at some time in the game,It has been this way since the game started 3 years ago and it has not changed at all.Players have been exploiting
    sometimes being aware of it and sometimes accidentaly.All the "great" pvp fleets of the past with no exception have been exploting combination of skills/gear/Boffs/Doffs whatever
    there discovered could be used to give them an edge in the game.I dont need to make a list here ,hopefully u get my point.
  • shimmerlessshimmerless Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    Actually K v K can be quite active at times

    Lol #1
    Of course u wouldnt know since you just hide on the safe side playing with your fleet,rarely if ever pugging or playing ur KDF,if u have one that is.

    Lol #2... I'm pretty sure that anyone here'll vouch for me that I PUG alone a lot more than you do, hell I probably FvK more too (incl. KvF). In fact I was in FvK this morning, another player mentioned seeing my ship in a thread just under this one.

    If you think I'm dependent on mine or anyone's fleet or that I'm scared of Klinkydinks you're quite sorely mistaken. There isn't really any style of PvP play that I haven't done oodles more of than yourself, I'm sorry to break the news. When I play my KDF I even fly a factional ship and not a lockbox toy, fancy that mate! You could say I'm a true Klingon.

    Pointing to others and crying about their vague misconduct doesn't excuse your own sorry behavior... nor that of anyone else, and it naturally goes for the Klinks. There's a good reason a lot of them end up spamming the PvP channel to get Feds to join their queues, even though Feds form a massive statistical majority. I think people underrate their intelligence and that they're avoiding a toxic playerbase for a good reason.
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  • cryox1cryox1 Member Posts: 33 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    Lol #1



    Lol #2... I'm pretty sure that anyone here'll vouch for me that I PUG alone a lot more than you do, hell I probably FvK more too (incl. KvF). In fact I was in FvK this morning, another player mentioned seeing my ship in a thread just under this one.

    If you think I'm dependent on mine or anyone's fleet or that I'm scared of Klinkydinks you're quite sorely mistaken. There isn't really any style of PvP play that I haven't done oodles more of than yourself, I'm sorry to break the news. When I play my KDF I even fly a factional ship and not a lockbox toy, fancy that mate! You could say I'm a true Klingon.

    Pointing to others and crying about their vague misconduct doesn't excuse your own sorry behavior... nor that of anyone else, and it naturally goes for the Klinks. There's a good reason a lot of them end up spamming the PvP channel to get Feds to join their queues, even though Feds form a massive statistical majority. I think people underrate their intelligence and that they're avoiding a toxic playerbase for a good reason.

    You can lol as much as u want.
    You can also claim whatever u want.About how active you are on the KDF side and how
    a true Klingon you are at heart.(big LOL )
    It would be pointless to go into a conversation about wether all that is anywhere near the truth or rather just delusional.Suffice to say that i have NEVER seen u as KDF ,not in pvps ,Kerrat or anywhere else for that matter.Maybe there is the US/Europe time difference that causes our paths not to cross.Then again i see u for hours chatting on the opvp chanel so it cant be that.Maybe you just role play more than u pvp.Considering your previous post that seems about right.
    Anyway,we are out of context with this line of posts.
  • snoge00fsnoge00f Member Posts: 1,812 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    broken doffs? doffs are universally exploitable, what doffs are broken currently anyway?.

    The ones that would reduce the cooldowns of powers below their limit.

    LOL it would give a user 18 second downtime to their APA.
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  • shimmerlessshimmerless Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    cryox1 wrote: »
    You can lol as much as u want.
    You can also claim whatever u want.About how active you are on the KDF side and how
    a true Klingon you are at heart.(big LOL )
    It would be pointless to go into a conversation about wether all that is anywhere near the truth or rather just delusional.Suffice to say that i have NEVER seen u as KDF ,not in pvps ,Kerrat or anywhere else for that matter.Maybe there is the US/Europe time difference that causes our paths not to cross.Then again i see u for hours chatting on the opvp chanel so it cant be that.Maybe you just role play more than u pvp.Considering your previous post that seems about right.
    Anyway,we are out of context with this line of posts.

    You're quite welcome to duel if you like? Clearly I never play PvP so I don't know what I'm talking about, should be an easy game for you...
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  • dontdrunkimshootdontdrunkimshoot Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    snoge00f wrote: »
    The ones that would reduce the cooldowns of powers below their limit.

    LOL it would give a user 18 second downtime to their APA.

    oh well those are formerly broken, not anymore thankfully. i was trying to think of something current
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