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Kumari Line of Andorian Escorts

webdeathwebdeath Member Posts: 1,570 Arc User
edited February 2013 in PvP Gameplay
So.. what would you speculate the ship will have?

From the picture on Facebook, I'd guess:

Cmd Tac
Lt Tac
LtC Uni
Lt Sci
Ens Engi

Otherwise it'll have the same stats as a Raptor, but with out the Cloak.

:D
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  • webdeathwebdeath Member Posts: 1,570 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    Also from the Raise in the top, I'm suspecting it'll have some kind of Console or maybe even Special Dual Beam Bank or something like that. Perhaps an Overloaded Beam Bank. :D
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  • marc8219marc8219 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    I hope it doesn't have a layout like that. That Lt Cmdr uni isn't even really universal if you make it that way since it would have to be engineering.

    We haven't had a escort with this layout yet-

    Cmdr Tac
    Lt Tac
    Lt Eng
    Lt Cmdr Sci
    Ensign Sci
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  • redrickyredricky Member Posts: 1,004 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    Bran says 3 versions in the C-Store. Everything for me will hinge on 3 things:

    1. Turn
    2. Inertia
    3. Pivot point (it looks long)

    Only 1 of which they're going to tell us up front.
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  • webdeathwebdeath Member Posts: 1,570 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    marc8219 wrote: »
    I hope it doesn't have a layout like that. That Lt Cmdr uni isn't even really universal if you make it that way since it would have to be engineering.

    We haven't had a escort with this layout yet-

    Cmdr Tac
    Lt Tac
    Lt Eng
    Lt Cmdr Sci
    Ensign Sci

    That's called the MVAE. :rolleyes:
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  • marc8219marc8219 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    webdeath wrote: »
    That's called the MVAE. :rolleyes:

    No, the multivector has ensign tac slot. The Mobius and Breen ship can come close to this layout also but end up with ensign eng instead. There isn't really a true sci heavy escort.

    Also this layout could be fun as eng heavy escort, armitage comes close but also gets 3rd tac slot.

    Cmdr Tac
    Lt Tac
    Lt Cmdr Eng
    ensign Eng
    Lt Sci
    Tala -KDF Tac- House of Beautiful Orions
  • havamhavam Member Posts: 1,735 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    kk its a 3 verison c store ship. Take the bug, fuse some armitage functionality in it. Something among the lines of:

    Any Bo layout you want if you buy all three. Best turn in game, great pivot, 6 tac consoles, bonus consoles add 50% dmg to DHC. Free DBB BO3 every 15 s, does not need weapons energy. 1 rapid fire hangar bay, it s like having 2 in the form of 1.

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  • adaephondelatadaephondelat Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    It looks great!

    Hull: 33000
    Shield-Mod: 1.0
    Turn: 15

    Console Layout Variant 1: 3/3/4
    Console Layout Variant 2: 4/2/4
    Console Layout Variant 3: 3/2/5

    Boff Layout Variant 1: Cmdr Tac, LtCmdr Sci, Lt. Eng, Lt. Uni, Ens Sci
    Boff Layout Variant 1: Cmdr Tac, LtCmdr Eng, Lt Eng, Lt. Uni, Ens Sci
    Boff Layout Variant 1: Cmdr Tac, LtCmdr Tac, Lt Eng, Lt. Uni, Ens Sci

    Special Console for Every Variant, 3-Set


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    ^^^
    I think we can all atleast agree to that... :)

    Edit: Uhhhhhh, I forgot the hangar bays. No C-Store ship is complete without nowadays...
  • antoniosalieriantoniosalieri Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    I doubt that any of them will only have 3 tac consoles on an escort....

    More likely

    4 / 3 / 3
    4 / 4 / 2
    4 / 2 / 4

    With 4 tac units being the standard 4 on all 3.

    The only thing I think may or may not happen is the inclusion of uni consoles... seeing as these things are going to have 3 versions... I some how doubt very much Cryptic is planning to tank sales on all 3 by giving any of them uni anything.

    They will be

    Cmd... Lt Cmd (of the 3 flavors)... with lt sci and engi... with likely an engi ens... and mabey perhaps the ensign may be universal... but I doubt they will eat into sales by offering uni slots so people don't need to buy more then one to change setups.
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  • maicake716maicake716 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    maybe itll be the fed bop -all universal- with more hull an no cloak. the 3 versions com in for the console layout and the 3 different consoles itll be able to use.

    what 3 things did we see the andorians do in star trek enterprise that they could possibly convert to be a "thing" this ship will do?
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  • naz4naz4 Member Posts: 1,373 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    I bet there will be 3 variants:

    Tactical - 5 Tac consoles, 2 Sci and 3 Eng (Similar to a bug)
    Engineering - 4 Tac Consoles, 4 Eng and 2 Sci (Similar to Patrol)
    Science - 4 Tac consoles, 4 Sci and 2 Eng (Similar to MVAM)

    Each will have an Lt Universal Station for variability.

    Place your bets now ;)

    Link

    EDIT: Thread already started here
  • gradstudent1gradstudent1 Member Posts: 633 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    naz4 wrote: »
    I bet there will be 3 variants:

    Tactical - 5 Tac consoles, 2 Sci and 3 Eng (Similar to a bug)
    Engineering - 4 Tac Consoles, 4 Eng and 2 Sci (Similar to Patrol)
    Science - 4 Tac consoles, 4 Sci and 2 Eng (Similar to MVAM)

    Each will have an Lt Universal Station for variability.

    Place your bets now ;)

    Link

    Yeah, i actually think you might be right about the lt. Uni
  • ussultimatumussultimatum Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    naz4 wrote: »
    I bet there will be 3 variants:

    Tactical - 5 Tac consoles, 2 Sci and 3 Eng (Similar to a bug)
    Engineering - 4 Tac Consoles, 4 Eng and 2 Sci (Similar to Patrol)
    Science - 4 Tac consoles, 4 Sci and 2 Eng (Similar to MVAM)

    Each will have an Lt Universal Station for variability.

    Place your bets now ;)

    Link


    I think you're right, and I also think there will be a Uni Ensign OR a Uni Lt.

    So the escort answer to the Odyssey & Vesta.
  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    The Kumari Heavy Raider/Escort

    28500 hull
    .09 shield modifier
    75 crew
    18 turn
    .20 imp modifier
    70 inertia
    4/3 weapons
    2 devices
    +15 wep

    X, X, X, X
    X, X, X
    X, X, X
    X, X

    4/3/3

    w/ 180 arc Heavy Particle Cannon Console

    The Kumari Raptor/Escort

    32500 hull
    .95 shield modifier
    100 crew
    16 turn
    .18 imp
    60 inertia
    4/3 weapons
    2 devices
    +15 wep

    X, X, X, X
    X, X, X
    X, X
    X
    X, X

    4/3/3

    w/ I.See.U. Sensor Console

    The Kumari Light Battle Cruiser/Escort

    35500 hull
    1 shield modifier
    250 crew
    14 turn
    .16 imp
    45 inertia
    4/3 weapons
    3 devices
    +10 wep, +5 shield, +5 eng

    X, X, X
    X, X, X, X
    X, X
    X, X
    X

    3/4/3

    w/ Significant Duranium Alloy Console


    2pc bonus - Prototype Cloaking
    3pc bonus - Super Mega Awesome Firing Mode for the Heavy Particle Cannon
  • naz4naz4 Member Posts: 1,373 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    ussultimatum wrote: »
    I think you're right, and I also think there will be a Uni Ensign OR a Uni Lt.

    So the escort answer to the Odyssey & Vesta.

    That was my thought pattern. THIEF!
  • maicake716maicake716 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    Now that I think about it... I hope this isn't a 3 version ship. I thin only the "primary" race for each side should ever have that.


    Also, when's the Klingons getting their "3 part ship" that doesn't suck?
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  • ussultimatumussultimatum Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    naz4 wrote: »
    That was my thought pattern. THIEF!


    I'm in ur thread, stealin ur kills.
  • tick0tick0 Member Posts: 243 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    maicake716 wrote: »
    Now that I think about it... I hope this isn't a 3 version ship. I thin only the "primary" race for each side should ever have that.


    Also, when's the Klingons getting their "3 part ship" that doesn't suck?

    Klingons?? Who are they???? :confused::confused:
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  • ussultimatumussultimatum Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    maicake716 wrote: »
    Now that I think about it... I hope this isn't a 3 version ship. I thin only the "primary" race for each side should ever have that.

    I tend to agree, but where would they draw from for this new line of Escorts?

    IMO, this is what the MVAE should have been instead of being the "Science" escort (it would still have been capable of the role, with say Ltc Uni and Lt Uni or similar).

    It would have made better sense both thematically and canonically.
  • marc8219marc8219 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    maicake716 wrote: »
    Now that I think about it... I hope this isn't a 3 version ship. I thin only the "primary" race for each side should ever have that.


    Also, when's the Klingons getting their "3 part ship" that doesn't suck?

    Will people quit bashing the Bortasqu, I have the 3 pack and am happy with the purchase, it sees much more use then my Oddy. It isn't for everyone due to the turn but it is a great dps cruiser using DHC, I even get away with doing it in PVP sometimes for lulz, but against pugs or in kerrat. DHC in stf is very easy for me to manage with it too, making it best dps cruiser there.

    It is not quite as good of a heal cruiser as the Oddy or Fleet Corsair in premade situations of course due to less sci consoles or the Fleet neghvar being more manuverable, but outside of that its a great ship.

    Back on topic I hope it isn't another 3 pack ship for Fed and KDF gets nothing like how Fed got Vesta 3 pack and KDF didn't get a similar one. I really don't care if its 3 pack or single but I just hope KDF also gets something similar but unique. Maybe Orion escort would be nice.
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  • dontdrunkimshootdontdrunkimshoot Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    well its another 3 pack, so you know what that means. its gunna have the vet ship's station setup, i guess if i want a fleet level vet ship i'll need to get it here.

    that duel port on the side worries me, it looks like it could fire sideways DHCs. unless the game converted to haveing all ships have side weapons, just 1 ship having them would be really stupid.
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  • dontdrunkimshootdontdrunkimshoot Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    my console guess

    4/2/4
    2/4/4
    3/3/4

    we don't need another 5 tac console escort, especially when it could... potentially be bug beating. they are going to want to sell a ton of these, the stats are going to be impressive. TRIBBLE, theres going to be a 5 tac console version huh :(


    2 for fed, 1 universal, 0 for kdf

    *edit: and 1 more for feds with this
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  • aldo1rainealdo1raine Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    I'm hoping it ends up being what I wanted to fleet advanced to be!

    A 5-tac console version of the fleet patrol with a better turn rate, hull and shield modifier!

    I'm tired of having bug envy :P
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  • naeviusnaevius Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    270 degree DHCs.
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  • aldo1rainealdo1raine Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    I got it! This will be the first ship with the occasionally mentioned side facing weapons!
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  • redrickyredricky Member Posts: 1,004 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    Q: (whamhammer1) If it is true that the game?s space combat engine cannot handle more than four weapons per side (front/rear)?

    Dstahl: Let me stop you right there. We have a ship coming that breaks this rule, so it is not true.
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  • webdeathwebdeath Member Posts: 1,570 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    redricky wrote: »
    Q: (whamhammer1) If it is true that the game?s space combat engine cannot handle more than four weapons per side (front/rear)?

    Dstahl: Let me stop you right there. We have a ship coming that breaks this rule, so it is not true.

    So..

    5 Fore Weapons
    2 Aft Weapons
    2 Devices
    2 Engi
    3 Sci
    5 Tac
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  • ussultimatumussultimatum Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    dontdrunkimshoot wrote: »
    we don't need another 5 tac console escort, especially when it could... potentially be bug beating. they are going to want to sell a ton of these, the stats are going to be impressive. TRIBBLE, theres going to be a 5 tac console version huh :(

    Both the Ody & Vesta have a 5 console version, with 5 consoles in the "primary" of the ship class (5 Eng Ody, 5 Sci "Multi-mission Surveillance" Vesta)


    webdeath wrote: »
    So..

    5 Fore Weapons
    2 Aft Weapons

    6 Fore Weapons
    2 Port
    2 Starboard
    4 Aft


    /gamesplodes
  • hroothvitnirhroothvitnir Member Posts: 322
    edited February 2013
    ussultimatum wrote: »

    6 Fore Weapons
    2 Port
    2 Starboard
    4 Aft


    /gamesplodes

    I'd rainbow beam that, name the ship raveaholic and run a constant FAW.:D
  • dontdrunkimshootdontdrunkimshoot Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    hroothvitnir wrote: »
    I'd rainbow beam that, name the ship raveaholic and run a constant FAW.:D

    EPtW3+ AtB, and the energy drain would still be crippling lol


    5 forward weapons on an escort, worst idea ever. try tanking 5 DHCs, not going to happen. this will make 5 tac console ship firepower look like a joke. you know, it would be 1 thing if it was a fed pastern cruiser, that could only use beamarrays or singles. but a ship that will be useing DHCs? STOP BEING PVE CAREBEARS DEVS!
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  • reginamala78reginamala78 Member Posts: 4,593 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    dontdrunkimshoot wrote: »

    5 forward weapons on an escort, worst idea ever. try tanking 5 DHCs, not going to happen. this will make 5 tac console ship firepower look like a joke. you know, it would be 1 thing if it was a fed pattern cruiser, that could only use beamarrays or singles. but a ship that will be useing DHCs?

    And if it follows the 3-pack pattern of the Odyssey and Bortasqu and Vesta, then it will be Commander Tac plus Universal LtCmdr. Set the Universal for Engineer, go 5 DHCs plus CRF plus APO plus DEM (with Marion) plus Tac Capt stuff.
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