I have been patrolling this thread for a few days now, and I think if 2200 posts about the grind, bugs and other problems that people see wrong with the game don't get some recognition from the developers in a thread that was originally about the fleet marks change, why bother continuing to address these? It's not even on topic.
I have been patrolling this thread for a few days now, and I think if 2200 posts about the grind, bugs and other problems that people see wrong with the game don't get some recognition from the developers in a thread that was originally about the fleet marks change, why bother continuing to address these? It's not even on topic.
Why are you posting then? What harm does it do to you?
Better still, why are you not playing the game and enjoying it instead of "patrolling" this thread for days;)
Straight from the mouth of one of the leaders of the CDF - "I tell you what, Haven't spent any money either - I'm a lousy freeloader" - Jonsills 17/12/2014
I have been patrolling this thread for a few days now, and I think if 2200 posts about the grind, bugs and other problems that people see wrong with the game don't get some recognition from the developers in a thread that was originally about the fleet marks change, why bother continuing to address these? It's not even on topic.
Obviously something must be wrong if your patrolling this thread and not blindly grinding for The Masters...
Hats off to the death of what little PvP there was left.
Not to mention upgradable weapon's cash grab.
One can only hope some of this money goes to game enhancements/improvements.
How the Devs see Star Trek, apparently:
Star Trek: The Original Grind
Star Trek: The Next Grind
Star Trek: Deep Space Grind
Star Trek: Voyage to the Grind
I have been patrolling this thread for a few days now, and I think if 2200 posts about the grind, bugs and other problems that people see wrong with the game don't get some recognition from the developers in a thread that was originally about the fleet marks change, why bother continuing to address these? It's not even on topic.
Optimism my friend OPTIMISM!
But really, is the game that fun that you feel the need to "patrol" this thread for days on end? Doesn't that seem to prove our point(s)?
I have been patrolling this thread for a few days now, and I think if 2200 posts about the grind, bugs and other problems that people see wrong with the game don't get some recognition from the developers in a thread that was originally about the fleet marks change, why bother continuing to address these? It's not even on topic.
In my belief it is on topic. We're starting to talk about the underlying causes of things rather than the symptoms.
The removal of fleet marks may well have kick started the whole thing, but its the way it was done and the circumstances surrounding it that have sustained it.
All of this sound anf fury could have been avoided if the tribble test server had been used in the way it was intended to.....in other words, to release a patch on tribble, guage the feedback and adjust accordingly.
Instead we had a few hours to test it on tribble, 75 pages of feedback, all of it ignored and the patch sent live and unfixed to holodeck before a 3 day weekend.
It's the apparent arrogance that, I think, has got under peoples skin. Mr Stahl seems to have forgotten the wisdom in measure twice, cut once.
He rushed at fixing a questionable loophole to keep a tiny minority of foundry authors happy and in so doing has really annoyed a much bigger portion of the player base.
His posts in this thread seem to suggest that he simply doesn't care.
I have been patrolling this thread for a few days now, and I think if 2200 posts about the grind, bugs and other problems that people see wrong with the game don't get some recognition from the developers in a thread that was originally about the fleet marks change, why bother continuing to address these? It's not even on topic.
Its Rage Pure Rage :mad::mad::mad: its unfocused at the moment but think because lack of cryptic be proactive with fixing issue and cause new ones but want to release content zen store over fix real issues... this thread its same as sparking match next to a powder keg it blew up.
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] DELTA RISING FIXS THERE NEVER COMING WHY I'M I WASTING MY TIME ASKING FOR THEM ???
Its Rage Pure Rage :mad::mad::mad: its unfocused at the moment but think because lack of cryptic be proactive with fixing issue and cause new ones but want to release content zen store over fix real issues... this thread its same as sparking match next to a powder keg it blew up.
I thought it was quite focused in the most part.
Straight from the mouth of one of the leaders of the CDF - "I tell you what, Haven't spent any money either - I'm a lousy freeloader" - Jonsills 17/12/2014
maybe but it seem to be dead for fact devs blew us all off with unclear post about patch you think that cause more rage and get back point and that the lack of care for customer/player, fleet marks, and, bugs... etc the issues go on.
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] DELTA RISING FIXS THERE NEVER COMING WHY I'M I WASTING MY TIME ASKING FOR THEM ???
Hats off to the death of what little PvP there was left.
5 forward weapons slots?((Actually 7 when you deploy its console.))Cryptic, are you totally serious? You've just put every fleet escort out of business. As if you couldn't make PvP an even bigger Epic Fail.
They just keep getting worse and worse...
This is what Thursdays patch is all about. Not fixing anything. Their scrambling to add some last minute things to quiet the masses. But this is the centerpiece, not the things they should be fixing...
Someone post the e-mail for CBS, they need to start getting some mail...
I think Team Cryptic was offended that player made content was more enjoyable to grind through than their missions. IOR was a fun way to experience new content and be rewarded(well) for it. It didn't feel like a grind at all. It was fun and my entire fleet was enjoying it.
I don't know who to feel more angry at. The exploiters that ruined it for us all, or Cryptic for adding the FM reward (making the Foundry relevant) knowing they'd just take it away.
Formerly known as Khannnnn "Spock, this 'child' is about to wipe out every living thing on Earth. Now, what do you suggest we do? Spank it?" -Commander Leonard 'Bones' McCoy, M.D.
I am sorry your daughter is sick and you should not be here at all. Go take care of your family as family always comes first!
I am also sure that someone else at PWE/Cryptic could come in here and discuss in detail the items we have been saying are broken with the current game direction and design. You are not the entire PWE/Cryptic staff and should not be seen as such.
Where is your support from the rest of PWE/Crytpic?
We, the customers, need to discuss the issues with them and see if they understand what is really wrong here. And can they, or will they even try, to fix them?
Go take care of your family and let your staff and the people in-charge take over until your family is better!
PWE/Cryptic Where are you? Why are you not listening to your customers?
I think Team Cryptic was offended that player made content was more enjoyable to grind through than their missions. IOR was a fun way to experience new content and be rewarded(well) for it. It didn't feel like a grind at all. It was fun and my entire fleet was enjoying it.
I don't know who to feel more angry at. The exploiters that ruined it for us all, or Cryptic for adding the FM reward (making the Foundry relevant) knowing they'd just take it away.
Enjoyable is debatable, but it was certainly more rewarding! Hell, some of the foundry missions were actually rather good.
Well as for the most posts on a topic - there are 100 more posts on this very topic in the Why Forum Posters are important thread. I think the two should be merged into the count.
There are Four Lights... say no to ARCFleet: 1st Order of Role-Players' Guild - gaming together since 2004
Well as for the most posts on a topic - there are 100 more posts on this very topic in the Why Forum Posters are important thread. I think the two should be merged into the count.
Where is your support from the rest of PWE/Crytpic?
We, the customers, need to discuss the issues with them and see if they understand what is really wrong here. And can they, or will they even try, to fix them?
Go take care of your family and let your staff and the people in-charge take over until your family is better!
PWE/Cryptic Where are you? Why are you not listening to your customers?
PWE/Cryptic Stop the FARM,Bring back the FUN!
Zeus
I feel like the service is gone from Cryptic / PWE. A fine example, is a member of my fleet logged into his account not too long ago to find 2 of his FED characters gone. He paid for the extra character slots himself and he never deleted his characters, plus his characters fleet donations are still showing on the leaderboard. He submitted a ticket and the response was along the lines of, "We can't see you ever had those characters, we'll look into it. Thanks".
Since then he's got nothing back from them, I'm amazed he didn't quit but he's a pretty laid back guy and just plays on his one remaining character.
Cryptic / PWE need to seriously get their act together and give Dan some more support as well.
I'm only posting in here because I want to, just like all of you guys want to direct all of your anger on Dan. He and the rest of the staff have been working to provide us with something for the game. Regardless of how much you guys despise the grind in the game, I don't see the grind going away. Any MMO out there has grind.
Have you guys ever considered the reason why he gave such a rude post is because all of you are being out right rude to him? There's only so much that can be addressed by him. He is as human as you and me are. He had to deal with his sick daughter as expressed in the Harlem Shake thread and that he regrets starting that thread in the first place.
I feel like the service is gone from Cryptic / PWE. A fine example, is a member of my fleet logged into his account not too long ago to find 2 of his FED characters gone. He paid for the extra character slots himself and he never deleted his characters, plus his characters fleet donations are still showing on the leaderboard. He submitted a ticket and the response was along the lines of, "We can't see you ever had those characters, we'll look into it. Thanks".
Since then he's got nothing back from them, I'm amazed he didn't quit but he's a pretty laid back guy and just plays on his one remaining character.
Cryptic / PWE need to seriously get their act together and give Dan some more support as well.
Well, when S7 went live, one of my toons had just under 500k unrefined dil vanish from the account. I put in a ticket about it only to be told nearly 3 weeks later:
"We have no record of you having that much ore and due to lack of evidence we cannot take action. In future, please refrain from sending false tickets".
new ship new ship WOW i must get it "NOT" i would of got the pack with in a day or 2 of it coming out but im not spending any more cash on a game that the devs dont care wot its players wont. there dont fix bugs, dont do any thing about about AFK farmers in team missions and 1 other thing there bring something new and NERF it with in 2 months any way.
:mad: :mad: :mad:
im sorry to hear about Dans daughter ive a 3 year old girl my self, and i feel sick with worry when my childs ill. hope she gets better soon.
Have you guys ever considered the reason why he gave such a rude post is because all of you are being out right rude to him? There's only so much that can be addressed by him. He is as human as you and me are. He had to deal with his sick daughter as expressed in the Harlem Shake thread and that he regrets starting that thread in the first place.
The phrase 'if you can't handle the heat, stay out of the kitchen' comes to mind.
I'm genuinely sorry that Dan's daughter is sick - and I truly hope she has a speedy recovery.
But STO is a multi-million dollar MMO, with (hundreds of?) thousands of customers generating many thousands of dollars of income for Cryptic every month - if Dan's not able to balance the demands of having a family life (with all the issues that brings) plus the responsibility of a large customer base then he shouldn't be in this line of work - it'll make him ill.
Some people are cut out for this kind of work - they thrive on it - others it breaks.
I'm only posting in here because I want to, just like all of you guys want to direct all of your anger on Dan. He and the rest of the staff have been working to provide us with something for the game. Regardless of how much you guys despise the grind in the game, I don't see the grind going away. Any MMO out there has grind.
Have you guys ever considered the reason why he gave such a rude post is because all of you are being out right rude to him? There's only so much that can be addressed by him. He is as human as you and me are. He had to deal with his sick daughter as expressed in the Harlem Shake thread and that he regrets starting that thread in the first place.
Of course MMO's are going to have aspects of grinding. At the same time STO has always given the image to try and cater to all players, the ones with families who have very little time and the ones who can put in 4-5 hours day. At the end of the day, as a consumer everyone has a right to give their feedback if they feel they are not getting a good service. Some may not present that in a mature and calm manner, but I feel many people have done that in this thread and I don't feel that many are blaming it all on Dan alone, but the STO division as a whole.
If he's had so much going on in RL, a company like Cryptic should have given him the time to deal with his RL issues and organise people to take over in his absence and address all the issues many people have raised. When you work in an environment with a large aspect on service, you end up learning how to deal with criticism and not everyone may go about being as nice as say you or me when they dissatisfied with the service they receive.
At the end of the day, if a lot of people have a problem with an aspect of a service and never say anything, how does a company like Cryptic expect to ever better themselves as a company and improve the Star Trek experience. I believe it was Picard who said that humanities goal is to better themselves, become more than what you are and grow. Here is a very large opportunity for Cryptic to do that, as there is a great deal of potential with this game and I hope it stands the test of time.
I'm only posting in here because I want to, just like all of you guys want to direct all of your anger on Dan. He and the rest of the staff have been working to provide us with something for the game. Regardless of how much you guys despise the grind in the game, I don't see the grind going away. Any MMO out there has grind.
Yes we get it, you don't agree with us and you don't like that we don't agree with you. I don't mind if you feel the need to repeat your statements. It just means I have to repeat mine and that is not a bad thing for our post counts :P
Have you guys ever considered the reason why he gave such a rude post is because all of you are being out right rude to him? There's only so much that can be addressed by him. He is as human as you and me are. He had to deal with his sick daughter as expressed in the Harlem Shake thread and that he regrets starting that thread in the first place.
Hey, he says his daughter is sick and I can't imagine that being a nice thing to go through. Thing is, it should not be brought into this discussion.
It is his job to manage the production and maintenance of this game. At the end of the day, the buck stops with him. It's the chain of command. It was his call to pipe up with the video request in the middle of the night and it wasn't a very well timed call. Hey, he likely made it perfectly innocently but that still doesn't make it any better. Any other time and I'm sure there would have been a great deal of entries!
While he is human, he is also a manager. Managers manage, they don't do everything themselves. That's why they have people working for them, people that they, the manager, manage. Being a manager means being responsible for those under you and what the team works on. If something big goes wrong, or the customer base is displeased then the blame is placed squarely on the shoulders of the manager.
Say you didn't like something the government did. Do you blame the man on the street, or do you blame the president/prime minister? Most likely you blame the head of state and not the man on the street!
I'm only posting in here because I want to, just like all of you guys want to direct all of your anger on Dan. He and the rest of the staff have been working to provide us with something for the game. Regardless of how much you guys despise the grind in the game, I don't see the grind going away. Any MMO out there has grind.
Have you guys ever considered the reason why he gave such a rude post is because all of you are being out right rude to him? There's only so much that can be addressed by him. He is as human as you and me are. He had to deal with his sick daughter as expressed in the Harlem Shake thread and that he regrets starting that thread in the first place.
Why does every game have grind? Because we've been programmed to grind. Ultima Online started it, WoW refined it to an art. That doesn't mean we like it, nor want it...
And the content they provide is flawed. I don't remember a patch yet that hasn't come without a bug. Some of them over 2 years old and not fixed. And lets not go into Season 7, again...
Dan Stahl is responsible for everything that goes into this game and onto this server, so yes, he's going to bear the brunt of it. Especially when he's caught in outright lies and/or fabrications, swapping statements around so they fit into some new mold and downright dodging answers.
Then, after all that has been said over the 3 day holiday that some people couldn't play the game because of this last patches bugs, the first post he makes is a 'Harlem Shuffle' thread? REALLY? That patch should have been rolled back Friday morning until they had a fix, but no, they let their paying customers rot for a 3 day holiday. ((Actually more because their not going to change anything this week. I think we all know what Thursdays patch is about, the money ship.))
So yea, we're irritated. mad and angry. Its tough being at the top of the pile. Maybe he should start some s**t rolling downhill so the rest of them could work on fixing the already existing problems before they add more this Thursday.(('cause you know with 5 weapon slots on the new ship, there's going to be some bugs SOMEWHERES.))
I'm only posting in here because I want to, just like all of you guys want to direct all of your anger on Dan. He and the rest of the staff have been working to provide us with something for the game. Regardless of how much you guys despise the grind in the game, I don't see the grind going away. Any MMO out there has grind.
Have you guys ever considered the reason why he gave such a rude post is because all of you are being out right rude to him? There's only so much that can be addressed by him. He is as human as you and me are. He had to deal with his sick daughter as expressed in the Harlem Shake thread and that he regrets starting that thread in the first place.
All hail the CDF!!
But seriously, you're telling us that the person in charge can not be held accountable? That's...weird. Of course we don't expect him to do everything on his own, that is why he has a team working for him. However, he *is* responsible for the performance of that team. Also, no one here is expecting all the grind to go away, there always has and always will be grind. Toning it down is certainly possible though, I don't see why that would be impossible. By the way, I'm not directing my anger at him. I'm angry at the game, and looking for a response from the person in charge of that game. If anything I am dissapointed in him.
Lost and Delirious... and Disenchanted too Apparently some forum posters have diplomatic immunity nowadays, where can I get mine?
I'm only posting in here because I want to, just like all of you guys want to direct all of your anger on Dan. He and the rest of the staff have been working to provide us with something for the game. Regardless of how much you guys despise the grind in the game, I don't see the grind going away. Any MMO out there has grind.
Have you guys ever considered the reason why he gave such a rude post is because all of you are being out right rude to him? There's only so much that can be addressed by him. He is as human as you and me are. He had to deal with his sick daughter as expressed in the Harlem Shake thread and that he regrets starting that thread in the first place.
Yes we get it, you don't agree with us and you don't like that we don't agree with you.
Hey, he says his daughter is sick and I can't imagine that being a nice thing to go through. Thing is, it should not be brought into this discussion.
It is his job to manage the production and maintenance of this game. At the end of the day, the buck stops with him. It's the chain of command. It was his call to pipe up with the video request in the middle of the night and it wasn't a very well timed call. Hey, he likely made it perfectly innocently but that still doesn't make it any better. Any other time and I'm sure there would have been a great deal of entries!
While he is human, he is also a manager. Managers manage, they don't do everything themselves. That's why they have people working for them, people that they, the manager, manage. Being a manager means being responsible for those under you and what the team works on. If something big goes wrong, or the customer base is displeased then the blame is placed squarely on the shoulders of the manager.
Say you didn't like something the government did. Do you blame the man on the street, or do you blame the president/prime minister? Most likely you blame the head of state and not the man on the street!
I know that space is a vacuum. What I did NOT know was that PWE/Cryptic relocated their offices there!
PWE/Cryptic Where are you? Why are you not listening to your customers?
Comments
Why are you posting then? What harm does it do to you?
Better still, why are you not playing the game and enjoying it instead of "patrolling" this thread for days;)
Obviously something must be wrong if your patrolling this thread and not blindly grinding for The Masters...
Hats off to the death of what little PvP there was left.
Not to mention upgradable weapon's cash grab.
One can only hope some of this money goes to game enhancements/improvements.
Star Trek: The Original Grind
Star Trek: The Next Grind
Star Trek: Deep Space Grind
Star Trek: Voyage to the Grind
Optimism my friend OPTIMISM!
But really, is the game that fun that you feel the need to "patrol" this thread for days on end? Doesn't that seem to prove our point(s)?
In my belief it is on topic. We're starting to talk about the underlying causes of things rather than the symptoms.
The removal of fleet marks may well have kick started the whole thing, but its the way it was done and the circumstances surrounding it that have sustained it.
All of this sound anf fury could have been avoided if the tribble test server had been used in the way it was intended to.....in other words, to release a patch on tribble, guage the feedback and adjust accordingly.
Instead we had a few hours to test it on tribble, 75 pages of feedback, all of it ignored and the patch sent live and unfixed to holodeck before a 3 day weekend.
It's the apparent arrogance that, I think, has got under peoples skin. Mr Stahl seems to have forgotten the wisdom in measure twice, cut once.
He rushed at fixing a questionable loophole to keep a tiny minority of foundry authors happy and in so doing has really annoyed a much bigger portion of the player base.
His posts in this thread seem to suggest that he simply doesn't care.
Thats the problem.
Its Rage Pure Rage :mad::mad::mad: its unfocused at the moment but think because lack of cryptic be proactive with fixing issue and cause new ones but want to release content zen store over fix real issues... this thread its same as sparking match next to a powder keg it blew up.
DELTA RISING FIXS THERE NEVER COMING WHY I'M I WASTING MY TIME ASKING FOR THEM ???
I thought it was quite focused in the most part.
yeah the other was that fed dread and people getting ripped off with recruiter friend wasn't it
maybe but it seem to be dead for fact devs blew us all off with unclear post about patch you think that cause more rage and get back point and that the lack of care for customer/player, fleet marks, and, bugs... etc the issues go on.
DELTA RISING FIXS THERE NEVER COMING WHY I'M I WASTING MY TIME ASKING FOR THEM ???
5 forward weapons slots?((Actually 7 when you deploy its console.))Cryptic, are you totally serious? You've just put every fleet escort out of business. As if you couldn't make PvP an even bigger Epic Fail.
They just keep getting worse and worse...
This is what Thursdays patch is all about. Not fixing anything. Their scrambling to add some last minute things to quiet the masses. But this is the centerpiece, not the things they should be fixing...
Someone post the e-mail for CBS, they need to start getting some mail...
It's been very focused - yes the original topic was Fleet Marks but this is symptomatic of bigger issues than Cryptic's meddling with rewards.
There's also been relatively little rage as a thorough browse through of these posts reveals that Brandon hasn't had to wield his red pen too much.
I don't know who to feel more angry at. The exploiters that ruined it for us all, or Cryptic for adding the FM reward (making the Foundry relevant) knowing they'd just take it away.
"Spock, this 'child' is about to wipe out every living thing on Earth. Now, what do you suggest we do? Spank it?" -Commander Leonard 'Bones' McCoy, M.D.
I am sorry your daughter is sick and you should not be here at all. Go take care of your family as family always comes first!
I am also sure that someone else at PWE/Cryptic could come in here and discuss in detail the items we have been saying are broken with the current game direction and design. You are not the entire PWE/Cryptic staff and should not be seen as such.
Where is your support from the rest of PWE/Crytpic?
We, the customers, need to discuss the issues with them and see if they understand what is really wrong here. And can they, or will they even try, to fix them?
Go take care of your family and let your staff and the people in-charge take over until your family is better!
PWE/Cryptic Where are you? Why are you not listening to your customers?
PWE/Cryptic Stop the FARM, Bring back the FUN!
Zeus
Enjoyable is debatable, but it was certainly more rewarding! Hell, some of the foundry missions were actually rather good.
*Ouch!*
That's going to put a dent in the value of the JHAS
(although they'll probably get an extra weapon slot as another 'gift')
Fleet: 1st Order of Role-Players' Guild - gaming together since 2004
Why? I don't see the need tbh.
I feel like the service is gone from Cryptic / PWE. A fine example, is a member of my fleet logged into his account not too long ago to find 2 of his FED characters gone. He paid for the extra character slots himself and he never deleted his characters, plus his characters fleet donations are still showing on the leaderboard. He submitted a ticket and the response was along the lines of, "We can't see you ever had those characters, we'll look into it. Thanks".
Since then he's got nothing back from them, I'm amazed he didn't quit but he's a pretty laid back guy and just plays on his one remaining character.
Cryptic / PWE need to seriously get their act together and give Dan some more support as well.
Have you guys ever considered the reason why he gave such a rude post is because all of you are being out right rude to him? There's only so much that can be addressed by him. He is as human as you and me are. He had to deal with his sick daughter as expressed in the Harlem Shake thread and that he regrets starting that thread in the first place.
Well, when S7 went live, one of my toons had just under 500k unrefined dil vanish from the account. I put in a ticket about it only to be told nearly 3 weeks later:
"We have no record of you having that much ore and due to lack of evidence we cannot take action. In future, please refrain from sending false tickets".
:mad: :mad: :mad:
im sorry to hear about Dans daughter ive a 3 year old girl my self, and i feel sick with worry when my childs ill. hope she gets better soon.
The phrase 'if you can't handle the heat, stay out of the kitchen' comes to mind.
I'm genuinely sorry that Dan's daughter is sick - and I truly hope she has a speedy recovery.
But STO is a multi-million dollar MMO, with (hundreds of?) thousands of customers generating many thousands of dollars of income for Cryptic every month - if Dan's not able to balance the demands of having a family life (with all the issues that brings) plus the responsibility of a large customer base then he shouldn't be in this line of work - it'll make him ill.
Some people are cut out for this kind of work - they thrive on it - others it breaks.
Of course MMO's are going to have aspects of grinding. At the same time STO has always given the image to try and cater to all players, the ones with families who have very little time and the ones who can put in 4-5 hours day. At the end of the day, as a consumer everyone has a right to give their feedback if they feel they are not getting a good service. Some may not present that in a mature and calm manner, but I feel many people have done that in this thread and I don't feel that many are blaming it all on Dan alone, but the STO division as a whole.
If he's had so much going on in RL, a company like Cryptic should have given him the time to deal with his RL issues and organise people to take over in his absence and address all the issues many people have raised. When you work in an environment with a large aspect on service, you end up learning how to deal with criticism and not everyone may go about being as nice as say you or me when they dissatisfied with the service they receive.
At the end of the day, if a lot of people have a problem with an aspect of a service and never say anything, how does a company like Cryptic expect to ever better themselves as a company and improve the Star Trek experience. I believe it was Picard who said that humanities goal is to better themselves, become more than what you are and grow. Here is a very large opportunity for Cryptic to do that, as there is a great deal of potential with this game and I hope it stands the test of time.
Yes we get it, you don't agree with us and you don't like that we don't agree with you. I don't mind if you feel the need to repeat your statements. It just means I have to repeat mine and that is not a bad thing for our post counts :P
Hey, he says his daughter is sick and I can't imagine that being a nice thing to go through. Thing is, it should not be brought into this discussion.
It is his job to manage the production and maintenance of this game. At the end of the day, the buck stops with him. It's the chain of command. It was his call to pipe up with the video request in the middle of the night and it wasn't a very well timed call. Hey, he likely made it perfectly innocently but that still doesn't make it any better. Any other time and I'm sure there would have been a great deal of entries!
While he is human, he is also a manager. Managers manage, they don't do everything themselves. That's why they have people working for them, people that they, the manager, manage. Being a manager means being responsible for those under you and what the team works on. If something big goes wrong, or the customer base is displeased then the blame is placed squarely on the shoulders of the manager.
Say you didn't like something the government did. Do you blame the man on the street, or do you blame the president/prime minister? Most likely you blame the head of state and not the man on the street!
Why does every game have grind? Because we've been programmed to grind. Ultima Online started it, WoW refined it to an art. That doesn't mean we like it, nor want it...
And the content they provide is flawed. I don't remember a patch yet that hasn't come without a bug. Some of them over 2 years old and not fixed. And lets not go into Season 7, again...
Dan Stahl is responsible for everything that goes into this game and onto this server, so yes, he's going to bear the brunt of it. Especially when he's caught in outright lies and/or fabrications, swapping statements around so they fit into some new mold and downright dodging answers.
Then, after all that has been said over the 3 day holiday that some people couldn't play the game because of this last patches bugs, the first post he makes is a 'Harlem Shuffle' thread? REALLY? That patch should have been rolled back Friday morning until they had a fix, but no, they let their paying customers rot for a 3 day holiday. ((Actually more because their not going to change anything this week. I think we all know what Thursdays patch is about, the money ship.))
So yea, we're irritated. mad and angry. Its tough being at the top of the pile. Maybe he should start some s**t rolling downhill so the rest of them could work on fixing the already existing problems before they add more this Thursday.(('cause you know with 5 weapon slots on the new ship, there's going to be some bugs SOMEWHERES.))
All hail the CDF!!
But seriously, you're telling us that the person in charge can not be held accountable? That's...weird. Of course we don't expect him to do everything on his own, that is why he has a team working for him. However, he *is* responsible for the performance of that team. Also, no one here is expecting all the grind to go away, there always has and always will be grind. Toning it down is certainly possible though, I don't see why that would be impossible. By the way, I'm not directing my anger at him. I'm angry at the game, and looking for a response from the person in charge of that game. If anything I am dissapointed in him.
Apparently some forum posters have diplomatic immunity nowadays, where can I get mine? [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Look out we have a fanboy over here
DBAD
I know that space is a vacuum. What I did NOT know was that PWE/Cryptic relocated their offices there!
PWE/Cryptic Where are you? Why are you not listening to your customers?
PWE/Cryptic Stop the FARM, Bring back the FUN!
Zeus