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Would you like to see the Klingon empire at peace with the Federation?
diogene0
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We often see people asking for a peace agreement between the Empire and the Federation on other subforums. Most of those why say yes are Fed players though. But what we, KDF players, would like to see? And how would you react if peace was forced upon the faction without the agreement of KDF players, if the majority was opposed to that?
I would say no. And not a small no. A huge no way, not now and not ever. Because most of the background of the KDF is war and signing peace doesn't sound fun for the future of the faction.
I would say no. And not a small no. A huge no way, not now and not ever. Because most of the background of the KDF is war and signing peace doesn't sound fun for the future of the faction.
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I'd like to see more separation. More war. More story built upon that idea. More about the Undine. More about how the KDF knew the Undine were infiltrating but the Federation was too weak to stop them.
But that requires doing a lot of work that the current team isn't prepared to do.
Some very narrow minded quotes from DStahl and others in the past have indicated that the KDF is such a tiny minority of the playerbase that even the majority of this minority don't hold much sway with development decisions.
From a player PvP perspective the war is a joke. There is no "war goals" PvP or campain.
There is no territory or star systems changing hands. Basicly all the "war" is, is a story plot item that doesn't really seem to do a whole lot for the player experience.
Before peace, could we please actually have a war?
I'm Klingon where my war, I was told there was a war, and I showed up now where is it.. I WILL NOT BE CHEATED!
the war itself what war is my question? we walk by each other on ds9 if this was a real war we should be trying to siege it lines of bortasqu raptos b'rel's blasting chuncks out of it we should be able to enter federation space and raid transports shoot them disable them board them not like the path of the warrior attacking them beaming up things. whatever happened to good old boarding partys dont shoot till you see the fear in there eyes kinda party:D
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So that basically means, something has to happen first before the Klingon Empire accepts peace. Makes sense to me
And I for one don't want the peace to end, for storyline and/or gameplay reasons
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Still gonna take prisoners and sell 'em off to Slavers tho.
As long as the Game doesn't stop with it.
Seriously i think there are way more possible storys in a combined Klingon/Federation alliance than a simple war between them. In my opinion Star Trek was at its best when the heroes where trying to prevent wars. But that's just my opinion, many fans are thrilled about war stories and endless killing.
Since the borg are not more than a minor scourge in STO, i think they need a real threatening enemy, like the iconians maybe. I think it would be cool if they could conquer sector blocks and we (the players) would get real disadvantages of it. So the recapture of those areas would be something everyone would be interested in.
As long as Cryptic doesn't make the same mistakes as the producers of Voyager did with the Borg, i think it could become quite interesting.
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In another time and place I might agree with Admiral Cartwright:eek:
With new temporary ceasefires being established every other week, you can't get anything done, strategically, rendering the war completely pointless. So they might as well just call it off and give us both someone else to fight.
2. Spock: "J'mpok, the Chancellor of the High Council traded diplomacy for the tip of a blade. Only in battle, J'mpok says, is a Klingon trully a Klingon."
J'mpok says this over many times in the game. I do not see any way for peace while he's the Chancellor. We can have a Klingon FE that revolves around the Klingon politics and the Great Houses that would lead to J'mpok's demise. That way we can get rid of the Duras and his Romulan care bears once for all in STO. Maybe the nex chancellor would be diplomatic. War is over, but KDF players get a nice FE explaining why. That'd be ok.
3.My personal opinion - we should stay at war. Maybe it's just me, but everyone being at the same side just doesn't seem quite natural for me in a MMO. Any game needs more diversity and I'm afraid that if the only two factions in game are at peace and have the same cause it's going to become even more stale.
4.And finally, the war is not about the Undine any more. It is still a big part, but has grown into something much bigger than that. The KDF & Fed. fleets clashed when KDF was trying to invade Romulan space. Martok and Worf were even blamed of having no honor and being Fed. puppets that lead the Klingon warriors to slaughter on purpose. This was the base for J'mpok's oportunity to claim the trone.
Klingons also announced that they're taking back their old territories form the Federation.
If I remember correctly, in DS9 Gowron told Sisko that even he as Chancellor can't end the war without the Klingons having a victory. So, unless some of those blue or green squares on the map turn red, I really don't see a logical explanation for peace. Not even the Iconians since even today KDF & Fed. are fighting the Borg togehter, but we're at "war".
The Federation has made no effort, no gesture whatsoever to correct this and now it is much too late. In the eyes of the Empire those that lead the Federation are honorless, holding no value or respect in the alliances they make.
It will take something significant on the side of the Federation in order for peace to even be considered by the Empire. The last time it took the utter destruction of Qo'nos's moon and the environmental fallout and threat of extinction to bring the Empire to the negotiating table.
There are the Organians but you saw how well that actually worked out.
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The Federation have enough problems and never wanted the war.
KDF admit that Iconian and Undine plus the Borg are really a greater threat than the Federation could be not to mention the Feklri.
Already a joint faction to fight the Borg.
Joint ops helping the Romulans and Remans neither using the Romulans to get one up on the other. The KDF previously invaded the Romulan Empire with Federation intervention which nearly caused a war there and then, now they work together.
The point of the war in the first place is completely outdated. It's all stems from Undine involvement and this is a repeat of the Changeling/DS9 scenario which the Fed and KDF had a spat over something someone else caused. They realised that they couldn't keep it up and should work together to weed out the real enemy.
Really the logical development of this story (which has happened in the tv shows) is there will be ceasefire/fragile truce although both sides will be weary/cautious and a few skirmishes might break out. Undine will try to undermine them but this in itself will reveal them. Just watch DS9 seasons 4-7 for what is a very similar storyline.
Still, for story purposes, I'd like the story to encompass the war over Romulans with each side trying to get them on their side and promptly end with advances of the Iconians upon our galaxy. I'd see that as a big enough reason to put the hostilities aside, at least for the time until the Iconian threat has been dealt with. So, in that sense, no to peace now, yes to peace in future season(s).
Agree fully!
More War, Please!
TRIBBLE the PVP queue bull****, too.
Let us lay waste to systems. Think bigger than Ker'rat.
Open Galaxy warfare now!
P.S.
KDF-only STFs, too!
I hate being teamed up with feddies so much that I do not do STFs any more.
- KDF Ambassador Syon vocalizing her objection to the discussions of possible peace talks with the UFP due to recent Borg and Undine activities. Hegh'bat, Stardate 66588.8
The last time there were KDF only STF the KDF scream to have joint since they never could find enough players to do them....since Fleet actions on the KDF are also kinda low, I doubt they will make KDF only STF.
I mean really this is not even a War, we already put stuff aside for the Borg, Dominion, and Romulans...this is not a War its a joke.
but if we do get peace, it should be an epic FE arc leading up to it, and from different prospective...FED get their own, and KDF get their own and the last Episode brings them together.
Why don't they have more Ker'rat-ish zones with STF rewards?
Queuing up for instanced TRIBBLE is what really turns me off to no end.
Would much rather go to where the action is and duke it out versus getting in line like we are at Wal-Mart.
Well, it's no wonder the KDF population is low and that's not the Klingon Playerbase's fault.
*cough* cryptic *cough*
I got so disgusted when the feddies cried for FvF PVP that I quit. Being in "The PVP faction" then seeing that dumb move was more than enough justification for me to bounce the **** outta here.
Came back because I missed being in the KDF.
Haven't queued since but am gearing up to hit Ker'rat and make some feddie cry.
Qapla'!
- KDF Ambassador Syon vocalizing her objection to the discussions of possible peace talks with the UFP due to recent Borg and Undine activities. Hegh'bat, Stardate 66588.8
Qapla' warrior! Send those toDSaH to Gre'thor!
But this is one of those "Whoops! Didn't you get the memo about the story? We put it up on the washroom door." things that Cryptic has an unfortunate tendency to do, methinks.
When you go to Gamma Orionis, you can ask why the KDF fleet is there, and the Borg andorian tells you that there is a cease fire while the Borg threat is here.
Oh, you read the other dialog options?
You eager beaver, you!
Add to that I certainly do not wish for a fed/KDF peace if its just an excuse for the feds to have a means of being able to fly our ships as a fed.
I would be fine if we players had a war between the faction that matches the STO back story in the lower ranks and slowly gets moved to an uneasy cease-fire in the storyline at endgame to battle the greater foe.
The STO has a great reason why we are at odds and it needs to have more focus in the lower end of the game.
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All of this os true. The KDF took action and was rebuked by the Undine infiltrated feds. The KDF decided to take the "standard fed" approach of "doing for the good of the galaxy" anyways. The game needs to focus on the feds being infiltrated and have the KDF as the rough but take-action hero against the Undine.
It would make for some great KDF flavored STFs.
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Let them make peace, but keep the location restrictions as they currently are, so that ESD doesn't get overrun with KDF characters and vice versa.