At first it was funny watching the entire klingon community pulling its hair out and screaming about something that might never happen. Now it just shows the absolute refusal for the KDF players to acknowledge their position in the game.
At first it was funny watching the entire klingon community pulling its hair out and screaming about something that might never happen. Now it just shows the absolute refusal for the KDF players to acknowledge their position in the game.
Screaming at the night won't make the sun rise.
Why is this so much of a problem for you?
If they are so many protesting then i think that something is going on and maybe they are right.....
What is KDF part exactly? to pay real money in order to entertain you?
Because if you get MACO shields+leech console+tractor pets+energy siphons its game over bro!
There is nothing KDF can do to fight back for an intelligent klingon only true way is to quit the ''fighting''.
What will make the sun rise if screaming doesnt ?
Maybe keep paying the company as KDF so feds are entertained only?
Is this what you suggest?
Yeah close the thread provoke the KDF even more than you already do and lets all sit back and enjoy the fireworks.
At first it was funny watching the entire klingon community pulling its hair out and screaming about something that might never happen. Now it just shows the absolute refusal for the KDF players to acknowledge their position in the game.
Screaming at the night won't make the sun rise.
So the only purpose you saw in this thread is the entertainment it brought the fedfan in watching yet another KDF fan lose his temper over an unfairness?
That right there is part of the problem.
That right there is why many KDF fans dislike the fed smugness they percieve ( and it seems rightly so ) from the fed playerbase over the growth of the KDF as a faction.
You all refuse to accept our fandom as valid within the IP that spawned it and get the perverse pleasure in rubbing our noses in what some of you percive " as our place."
Thats wrong, no matter how you slice or how your try to hide it with icing.
There is nothing KDF can do to fight back for an intelligent klingon only true way is to quit the ''fighting''.
Quiting is not an option.
So what if the odd (and I do mean odd as many fedfans have come forward to agree with the KDF growth in the past months) fedfan gets his or hers jollies on watching our pain? Its not like they can actually live by the ideals set forth by the UFP in real life. We must continue to fight and let PWE and Cryptic know that we will not go quietly into the shadows of STO. That there is more to the IP than just the Feds. That other fans exist and they desire to see thier fandom grown to fullness in STO, be it the completion of the KDF or the beginings of the RSE or what ever comes next.
Quiting is not an option.
Quiting is merely entertaining the feds even more.
Show your support for the KDF. Write PWE, Write Cryptic, Write Massively, spread teh word.
DO what ever is needed to get the word out that we as fans have as much right to a full faction as anyone whom is a fan of the IP.
That while the IP was in a TV & Movie media format meant to tell the story of the federation primarily with undertones of the other races and powers that exist within it, the MMO format has the chance to let every fan of the IP enjoy being the focus of the story instead.
The feds still have the lions share of the attention and will always be so. I have no issue with that, but it is past time the other colorful and fan enjoyed parts of Star trek be grown to fullness that up until now they had never truly realized before.
That is where PWE and Cryptic have failed, imo, to succeed and what they need to correct if STO is to ever be more than a platform for selling virtual trinkets to a obviously narcistic fanbase.
Its hightime that STO became a game that caters to all fans so we can move forward and leave the angst of the past behind.
Cryptic you're doing pretty well from what I have seen, you got more lifetime members join in the last sale, my wife, good friend and I are among them. You are making enough sales and money to increase your team as stated by Dan Stahl in a recent pod-cast/new update. If this is all going so well, why aren't you taking the opportunity to increase the KDF faction.
Amen.
Cryptic has the skills and the vision to make STO a great game that caters to all fans of the IP.
Its past time to take the blinders off and see that more is possible and grow the KDF to completion by pulling from soft canon or simply doing something new.
Its past time they finished our part of teh STO story and grew the game.
At first it was funny watching the entire klingon community pulling its hair out and screaming about something that might never happen. Now it just shows the absolute refusal for the KDF players to acknowledge their position in the game.
Screaming at the night won't make the sun rise.
You my friend, is a prime example of someone who simply doesn't even understand the Federation core principles of tolerance, equality and acceptance. It's lost to you and I feel sorry for you. I hope one day you'll understand, mature up and see the light.
So the only purpose you saw in this thread is the entertainment it brought the fedfan in watching yet another KDF fan lose his temper over an unfairness?
That right there is part of the problem.
That right there is why many KDF fans dislike the fed smugness they percieve ( and it seems rightly so ) from the fed playerbase over the growth of the KDF as a faction.
You all refuse to accept our fandom as valid within the IP that spawned it and get the perverse pleasure in rubbing our noses in what some of you percive " as our place."
Thats wrong, no matter how you slice or how your try to hide it with icing.
Ignoring the rain will not keep you dry.
I couldn't agree more. I'm just glad there are Federation fan's out there who actually are good people and want to see KDF development as much as us. It's just a sad state of affairs when someone who is so smug and such come in here to troll. If they don't like what they see they should restrain from posting.
Quiting is not an option.
So what if the odd (and I do mean odd as many fedfans have come forward to agree with the KDF growth in the past months) fedfan gets his or hers jollies on watching our pain? Its not like they can actually live by the ideals set forth by the UFP in real life. We must continue to fight and let PWE and Cryptic know that we will not go quietly into the shadows of STO. That there is more to the IP than just the Feds. That other fans exist and they desire to see thier fandom grown to fullness in STO, be it the completion of the KDF or the beginings of the RSE or what ever comes next.
Quiting is not an option.
Quiting is merely entertaining the feds even more.
Show your support for the KDF. Write PWE, Write Cryptic, Write Massively, spread teh word.
DO what ever is needed to get the word out that we as fans have as much right to a full faction as anyone whom is a fan of the IP.
That while the IP was in a TV & Movie media format meant to tell the story of the federation primarily with undertones of the other races and powers that exist within it, the MMO format has the chance to let every fan of the IP enjoy being the focus of the story instead.
The feds still have the lions share of the attention and will always be so. I have no issue with that, but it is past time the other colorful and fan enjoyed parts of Star trek be grown to fullness that up until now they had never truly realized before.
That is where PWE and Cryptic have failed, imo, to succeed and what they need to correct if STO is to ever be more than a platform for selling virtual trinkets to a obviously narcistic fanbase.
Its hightime that STO became a game that caters to all fans so we can move forward and leave the angst of the past behind.
Quoted for truth. I agree, Cryptic/PWE have to stop ignoring us as we won't go quietly we will continue our campaign of equality. We all agree the Fed will get the majority share but is a 2:1 (Federation to Klingon) c-store ratio asking too much?
Support the Game by Supporting the KDF, equality and uniqueness for all factions!
So the only purpose you saw in this thread is the entertainment it brought the fedfan in watching yet another KDF fan lose his temper over an unfairness?
Of course. The entertainment value is in what KDF consider unfair. Personally I consider 1 console doing the work of 16 being limited to one side unfair. Clearly the KDF do not. And I wouldn't really call myself a "fed fan" I go where the best items are. For a while that was KDF with Garumba and Honor Guard gear. IMO it still is, I've just temporarily gone back to feds to play with a starbase with my friends who play feds.
My only real interest is in gear and as I can get better stuff playing as KDF over feds that tends to be what I do.
You my friend, is a prime example of someone who simply doesn't even understand the Federation core principles of tolerance, equality and acceptance. It's lost to you and I feel sorry for you. I hope one day you'll understand, mature up and see the light.
Quoted for truth. I agree, Cryptic/PWE have to stop ignoring us as we won't go quietly we will continue our campaign of equality. We all agree the Fed will get the majority share but is a 2:1 (Federation to Klingon) c-store ratio asking too much?
As you (as a faction) are so proud of stating, you are the 19%. So a ratio of 4:1 would make more sense. Any more than that and yes, you are asking too much.
Of course. The entertainment value is in what KDF consider unfair. Personally I consider 1 console doing the work of 16 being limited to one side unfair. Clearly the KDF do not. And I wouldn't really call myself a "fed fan" I go where the best items are. For a while that was KDF with Garumba and Honor Guard gear. IMO it still is, I've just temporarily gone back to feds to play with a starbase with my friends who play feds.
My only real interest is in gear and as I can get better stuff playing as KDF over feds that tends to be what I do.
I understand it. I just disagree with it.
As you (as a faction) are so proud of stating, you are the 19%. So a ratio of 4:1 would make more sense. Any more than that and yes, you are asking too much.
Omg stop saying things that doesnt apply.
Where do you see that KDF has better stuff than feds?
Yeah maybe 2 years ago KDF had better stuff if u compare with federation but right now you have gotten so much this doesnt apply anymore.
Now if you want our consoles i suggest you start playing KDF.
And stop whining like little girl!
Its only one of you and at least 20 of us saying otherwise
You cant get our console when you are outnumbered right?
Even if the trade occurs you said urself that this console is doing the work of 16 consoles?
I Strongly doubt that but i agree that its a decent console and one of the last reasons to stick with KDF and the only fair trade between the 2 faction would be to give us better shields that gives us power all over across the board like ur own MACO!
Tractor pets and escort carriers,
Better turn rate raptors with 5x tac consoles!!!!
Those tetryon weapons that got 10% - 323 shields instead of 5%
Clothes, outfits maybe, dunaboats space pets,
And then you can have the bloody console.
But unless you give all the above i describe and some more which i forget atm dont expect the klingon community to sit with its hands cross while you tear appart our last unique reason for us and new ppl to play and enjoy KDF!
Back to ur luxury shipyard now. And dont forget to enjoy the unique things federation got and we dont ask for them.
At least not with your rude way. And not without thinking if the impact will dmg the game just for our own fun like YOU are doing now.
You know its 1fed here vs 20+ klingon
You want 20 ppl to suffer so you have even more OP fun that you already have now.
Frankly i dont understand you i already have friends and watch feds that destroy KDF in pvp and when i told them that leech console might be shared via lockboxes they didnt like it at all!
simple because competition will be totally wiped out.
Now those are logical persons thats why they are my friends even in federation side(they got KDF also )
You sir i got no words for you
Last word for you
IF YOU WANT KDF CONSOLES THEN PLAY KDF DONT ASK TO DESTROY THE FUN FACTOR OF OTHER PPL SO BECAUSE YOU ARE NOOB OR I DONT KNOW WHAT REASONS YOU GOT.
The only reason we are the 19% as you say is because the company is limiting us to start from lvl 25 a KDF char and not directly from lvl 1
As you (as a faction) are so proud of stating, you are the 19%. So a ratio of 4:1 would make more sense. Any more than that and yes, you are asking too much.
So give us our fair share then, 4:1. We are waiting.
Cloaking generators break down at first sign of language.
Ban the OP for rightfully protesting??? silencing him this way?
{snip}
ps. even at the forums why do we get the dead tribbles and the federation get the fresh ones?
ps2. this isnt flaming or trolling you better look at federation shipyards for those. This is a rightfully protest ''feedback'' against the ignorance and the constant demotion of KDF faction. Because for some ppl here as you see KDF is the only thing that kept us into STO for long time. Now if you dont care about our feedback just dont read it but dont say its trolling and flaming when the things we describe here are 100% truth.
{snip}
Now if you support federation side for your own reasons thats your right but its our right also to support the KDF since KDF is what we truly love about this game. You cant keep silencing us if you dont like what we say after all what we say is the truth no matter how much this is bugging you.
{sigh}
I probably shouldn't respond to this but...
1. Discussion of moderation actions is not allowed. But, for the record, I don't have the power to ban anyone. As a Community Mod all I can hand out are 0 point warnings.
2. The tribble thing was intended as a joke. Sorry if people didn't get it... To a Klingon the only good tribble is a dead one. I did not intend to offend anyone. My apologies to anyone who took it the wrong way.
3. Yes, there was flaming and trolling going on. It is not legitimate feedback when people start calling other people names and stirring up angry responses. And for what? For something that Cryptic hasn't done as far as I know. That's not "100% truth"; people got upset over a rumor.
4. If I didn't care about feedback, I would prevent it. I have the power to deep six this thread where nobody but the mods will ever see it again. But that would be an abuse of my responsibility. I could have closed it pages ago, but I was hoping to allow people -- KDF players specifically -- to let their opinion be heard.
5. I have a KDF toon myself. I love my B'rel retrofit. I'm not active as a KDF player, but I do care about the faction. Again, if I didn't care... If Cryptic didn't care... we could snuff these threads out before they even get started. But this has been allowed to go on for pages and pages.
Having said all that, I'm afraid this thread has now run its' course and now it is done. The last word on this subject -- my last word -- is that I hope the KDF keeps its' distinctiveness and unique items, but posts attacking other people in the community will not be tolerated.
Again, if anyone took offense at my tribble joke, I am deeply sorry and hope you will accept my apologies.
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Comments
At first it was funny watching the entire klingon community pulling its hair out and screaming about something that might never happen. Now it just shows the absolute refusal for the KDF players to acknowledge their position in the game.
Screaming at the night won't make the sun rise.
Why is this so much of a problem for you?
If they are so many protesting then i think that something is going on and maybe they are right.....
What is KDF part exactly? to pay real money in order to entertain you?
Because if you get MACO shields+leech console+tractor pets+energy siphons its game over bro!
There is nothing KDF can do to fight back for an intelligent klingon only true way is to quit the ''fighting''.
What will make the sun rise if screaming doesnt ?
Maybe keep paying the company as KDF so feds are entertained only?
Is this what you suggest?
Yeah close the thread provoke the KDF even more than you already do and lets all sit back and enjoy the fireworks.
So the only purpose you saw in this thread is the entertainment it brought the fedfan in watching yet another KDF fan lose his temper over an unfairness?
That right there is part of the problem.
That right there is why many KDF fans dislike the fed smugness they percieve ( and it seems rightly so ) from the fed playerbase over the growth of the KDF as a faction.
You all refuse to accept our fandom as valid within the IP that spawned it and get the perverse pleasure in rubbing our noses in what some of you percive " as our place."
Thats wrong, no matter how you slice or how your try to hide it with icing.
Ignoring the rain will not keep you dry.
R.I.P
Quiting is not an option.
So what if the odd (and I do mean odd as many fedfans have come forward to agree with the KDF growth in the past months) fedfan gets his or hers jollies on watching our pain? Its not like they can actually live by the ideals set forth by the UFP in real life. We must continue to fight and let PWE and Cryptic know that we will not go quietly into the shadows of STO. That there is more to the IP than just the Feds. That other fans exist and they desire to see thier fandom grown to fullness in STO, be it the completion of the KDF or the beginings of the RSE or what ever comes next.
Quiting is not an option.
Quiting is merely entertaining the feds even more.
Show your support for the KDF. Write PWE, Write Cryptic, Write Massively, spread teh word.
DO what ever is needed to get the word out that we as fans have as much right to a full faction as anyone whom is a fan of the IP.
That while the IP was in a TV & Movie media format meant to tell the story of the federation primarily with undertones of the other races and powers that exist within it, the MMO format has the chance to let every fan of the IP enjoy being the focus of the story instead.
The feds still have the lions share of the attention and will always be so. I have no issue with that, but it is past time the other colorful and fan enjoyed parts of Star trek be grown to fullness that up until now they had never truly realized before.
That is where PWE and Cryptic have failed, imo, to succeed and what they need to correct if STO is to ever be more than a platform for selling virtual trinkets to a obviously narcistic fanbase.
Its hightime that STO became a game that caters to all fans so we can move forward and leave the angst of the past behind.
R.I.P
Amen.
Cryptic has the skills and the vision to make STO a great game that caters to all fans of the IP.
Its past time to take the blinders off and see that more is possible and grow the KDF to completion by pulling from soft canon or simply doing something new.
Its past time they finished our part of teh STO story and grew the game.
R.I.P
You my friend, is a prime example of someone who simply doesn't even understand the Federation core principles of tolerance, equality and acceptance. It's lost to you and I feel sorry for you. I hope one day you'll understand, mature up and see the light.
I couldn't agree more. I'm just glad there are Federation fan's out there who actually are good people and want to see KDF development as much as us. It's just a sad state of affairs when someone who is so smug and such come in here to troll. If they don't like what they see they should restrain from posting.
Quoted for truth. I agree, Cryptic/PWE have to stop ignoring us as we won't go quietly we will continue our campaign of equality. We all agree the Fed will get the majority share but is a 2:1 (Federation to Klingon) c-store ratio asking too much?
Of course. The entertainment value is in what KDF consider unfair. Personally I consider 1 console doing the work of 16 being limited to one side unfair. Clearly the KDF do not. And I wouldn't really call myself a "fed fan" I go where the best items are. For a while that was KDF with Garumba and Honor Guard gear. IMO it still is, I've just temporarily gone back to feds to play with a starbase with my friends who play feds.
My only real interest is in gear and as I can get better stuff playing as KDF over feds that tends to be what I do.
I understand it. I just disagree with it.
As you (as a faction) are so proud of stating, you are the 19%. So a ratio of 4:1 would make more sense. Any more than that and yes, you are asking too much.
Omg stop saying things that doesnt apply.
Where do you see that KDF has better stuff than feds?
Yeah maybe 2 years ago KDF had better stuff if u compare with federation but right now you have gotten so much this doesnt apply anymore.
Now if you want our consoles i suggest you start playing KDF.
And stop whining like little girl!
Its only one of you and at least 20 of us saying otherwise
You cant get our console when you are outnumbered right?
Even if the trade occurs you said urself that this console is doing the work of 16 consoles?
I Strongly doubt that but i agree that its a decent console and one of the last reasons to stick with KDF and the only fair trade between the 2 faction would be to give us better shields that gives us power all over across the board like ur own MACO!
Tractor pets and escort carriers,
Better turn rate raptors with 5x tac consoles!!!!
Those tetryon weapons that got 10% - 323 shields instead of 5%
Clothes, outfits maybe, dunaboats space pets,
And then you can have the bloody console.
But unless you give all the above i describe and some more which i forget atm dont expect the klingon community to sit with its hands cross while you tear appart our last unique reason for us and new ppl to play and enjoy KDF!
Back to ur luxury shipyard now. And dont forget to enjoy the unique things federation got and we dont ask for them.
At least not with your rude way. And not without thinking if the impact will dmg the game just for our own fun like YOU are doing now.
You know its 1fed here vs 20+ klingon
You want 20 ppl to suffer so you have even more OP fun that you already have now.
Frankly i dont understand you i already have friends and watch feds that destroy KDF in pvp and when i told them that leech console might be shared via lockboxes they didnt like it at all!
simple because competition will be totally wiped out.
Now those are logical persons thats why they are my friends even in federation side(they got KDF also )
You sir i got no words for you
Last word for you
IF YOU WANT KDF CONSOLES THEN PLAY KDF DONT ASK TO DESTROY THE FUN FACTOR OF OTHER PPL SO BECAUSE YOU ARE NOOB OR I DONT KNOW WHAT REASONS YOU GOT.
The only reason we are the 19% as you say is because the company is limiting us to start from lvl 25 a KDF char and not directly from lvl 1
Is this our fault also?
Back to ur luxury coach!
So give us our fair share then, 4:1. We are waiting.
{sigh}
I probably shouldn't respond to this but...
1. Discussion of moderation actions is not allowed. But, for the record, I don't have the power to ban anyone. As a Community Mod all I can hand out are 0 point warnings.
2. The tribble thing was intended as a joke. Sorry if people didn't get it... To a Klingon the only good tribble is a dead one. I did not intend to offend anyone. My apologies to anyone who took it the wrong way.
3. Yes, there was flaming and trolling going on. It is not legitimate feedback when people start calling other people names and stirring up angry responses. And for what? For something that Cryptic hasn't done as far as I know. That's not "100% truth"; people got upset over a rumor.
4. If I didn't care about feedback, I would prevent it. I have the power to deep six this thread where nobody but the mods will ever see it again. But that would be an abuse of my responsibility. I could have closed it pages ago, but I was hoping to allow people -- KDF players specifically -- to let their opinion be heard.
5. I have a KDF toon myself. I love my B'rel retrofit. I'm not active as a KDF player, but I do care about the faction. Again, if I didn't care... If Cryptic didn't care... we could snuff these threads out before they even get started. But this has been allowed to go on for pages and pages.
Having said all that, I'm afraid this thread has now run its' course and now it is done. The last word on this subject -- my last word -- is that I hope the KDF keeps its' distinctiveness and unique items, but posts attacking other people in the community will not be tolerated.
Again, if anyone took offense at my tribble joke, I am deeply sorry and hope you will accept my apologies.
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