Hello there, i heard some dudes saying that feds might get leech console on next patch....
If this is truth then i wanted to say that i quit the game and take all the friends i brought into game back into other games.
Just saying. Because this is so much unfair.
Last months i see many unfair things happening against klingons and i cant stand up with it.
Now this is the last drop if u give leech console to feds thats it for me BB once and for all
ALSO I WILL MAKE SURE I STAY AWAY FROM PWE SCUM GAMES.
CRYPTIC WAS DOING A FINE WORK AND U CAME ALONG AND U DESTROY KDF SIDE IN THE NAME OF GREED.
Kdf are customers also and we are many ppl like KDF like me even if we cant start from lvl 1 KDF is something special and no matter what ppl keep playing kdf and keep liking kdf more than federation luxury models.
KDF are warships nice lookin models
Fed are luxury models if u ask me
Show some love to kdf side DONT give our console i warn you i will quit the game i promise and you will loose a GOOD and LOYAL CUSTOMER.
There is a thin line when it comes to justice .
When u cross it i quit and take down as many as i can with me.
Last months u give ships to fed side only u even gave them the fed escort carrier and those annoying tractor pets.
Now if u give them leech console that was our only unique thing we had you will totally destroy balance between 2 factions.
Fed got tons of ships and unique consoles unique pets etc etc.
Give them bio neutral warhead ok and give us something in return
Give them siphon drones and give us tractor pets
BUT IN THE NAME OF HOLY MARY DONT GIVE THEM THE LEECH CONSOLE THIS IS SO WRONG.......
DONT TRIBBLE KDF STOP THAT IF U GIVE THEM LEECH CONSOLE THIS IS WAY TO MUCH AND CROSS THE RED LINE AND MANY PPL WILL HATE YOU FOR THAT AND STOP PAYING YOU AND EVENTUALLY QUIT THE GAME.
Sry for caps but like i said even the thought of giving the leech console on fed side without giving us something as powerful as the leech console in return this is to much to take in.
Bad me do whatever u want just leave the damn leech console alone stop nerfing it and stop thinking to give it to feds for money because i will quit and i am a good customer.
Ur call PWE i am not the only one who will get rly mad and quit just saying ur game do whatever u want.
It has been proven that companies that where totally greedy and destoryed faction balance in the name of greed didnt have a good effect on their games and finally those ''greedy'' companies bunkrupted and shutdown after a while.
Now i dont know how u do with other games but STO is doing rly nice since it went f2p there is no need to sucrifice everything in the name of money.
LAST WORD TO PWE: LEAVE THE GAME BALANCE AS YOU FOUND IT THATS WHAT PPL LIKED AND STARTED THE GAME THATS WHAT STO GOT SO FAR IF U MESS WITH GAME BALANCE EVEN MORE THAN U ALREADY DID YOU GONE KILL THE GAME I WARN YOU!!!!!!!
for god's shake leave the bloody leech console on kdf side and stop nerfing it!!!!
you gave so many new ''toys'' on fed side that give us rly hard time now imagine if they get on top of those toys only last unique weapon kdf side had the leech console what will happend then?
How unfair it will be for us klingons to keep playing KDF when FED got supperior ships more content and our unique consoles
This is a disaster i cant even think of that.
No NO NO NO leave us alone feds got the escort carrier and the nasty tractor pets
Also if u give them the leech console then it will be pointless cause we drain them they drain back at the end we both gain nothing only that you got our money and the consoles are countering each other.
Here its not logical to give federation the leech console because if both faction got the console
its a waste of money also waste of a ship slot.
Because both sides will be draining each other making the console have no effect at all
So this is just so WRONG.
Do that and i require my money back (i know i cant get them back but this time i mean it dont expect any more money from me for sure)
I go offline now until i have news that PWE will not do something so wrong so unfair and without a point except riping off newbies that will say hey nice console lets waste 1 slot for it because it doesnt do anything because every1 gots it....... only company sell stuff that doesnt do anything because every1 got the console so no drain at all for anyone this is just so silly.
I hope understand my point here this is just so wrong.
I apologize i whined about fed escort carrier that its op ship and stuff
I AM SORRY PWE FED ESCORT CARRIER IS JUST FINE JUST A LITTLE OP SHIP BUT THATS TOTALLY OK FOR ME.
But leech console you CANT be thinking to give that to fed side right?
Why to use it then if every1 is draining one another????
Whats the point of this? except of greed?
If you do that community will eventually understand how much greedy scums are you and deny you and ur games in the future.
We got brains we got sense of justice we are AWARE of ur vile plans and justice will prevail soon or later i promise that it always does!
I can feel your pain but 1. rumors can be or cant be but say "dont give it to feds" 50 times dont change it. 2. u realy think they would read this post? 3.make it more a discusion not a crying thread.
If they got this console .. yea it sucks but its not gamebreaking, i only use this consol on my beamboat to get some energy to tank.
Gamebreaking is more : no discount for KDFs for the Fleet ships or 4 new Fed ships vs zero new KDF ships or ..... i can post some sides full of points that hammering KDFs into the ground but i think its enougth to read the History of Klingons from peregrin falcon
Gamebreaking is more : no discount for KDFs for the Fleet ships or 4 new Fed ships vs zero new KDF ships or ..... i can post some sides full of points that hammering KDFs into the ground but i think its enougth to read the History of Klingons from peregrin falcon
I'd love a leech console for my fed, but on the other hand I would prefer that the KDF stay unique in a way with consoles that the feds cant get. If we cant get any new ships or content then at least let us keep our unique consoles
Srsly now i humbly apologize i ever whined (because i did sometimes espcially for the fed escort carrier)
I apologize PWE CRYPTIC and DEVS i humbly apologize if i ever whined because those reasons wherent serious enough to whine thats why i apologize.
But the leech console its a good reason to ''whine'' for many reasons.
First of all its a unique console for the KDF side(its a good reason why many ppl rolled kdf)
Secondly giving this console on both side it cancels its effect!!!! making it a unworthy purchase only good for company making money and not for players having fun!!!
Also
Third if both sides have the console like i said the drain effect will cancel itself so both sides will waste an console slot just to make the company more rich.....
Those 3 reason above prove with facts and profs that this is a move the company MUST not make if you wanna keep a nice decent name among the gamer community worldwide.
I mean even the feds like this console to remain unique for the kdf side.
First of all this console is MEANT to be unique because double drain from both side will result in no drain effect AT ALL.
Like i said i apologize for any silly reasons i whined at the past for plz u must understand that if you make this console for both side u destroy its value and also u destroy KDF cause this console is the reason why many ppl rolled and sticked to KDF char including me.
another reason that community doesnt care but still i say it is
4th reason is that i played kdf side only i invested lots of RL money to kdf side and now that u seem to favour fed side i will NOT pay again all those money into federation side as well i will just quit the game once and for life!
If i wanna play fed side i will once i got bored of my KDF side not because you favour FED and nerf KDF!!!!
You cant force me to play FED i am KDF maniac for many reasons!
Also the reason i made this post 2day is because some ppl are talking about giving either leech console or bio neutral warhead to fed side.
Ok the bio neutral warhead even if a powerfull console wont have much of an impact in the game only if we get something for giving the warhead but The leech console it shouldnt even be on the discussion table simply because it will cancel its effect!!!!!!
Thats why i am here this is so outrageous thats why....
I dont agree to give anything unique on other side but if we have to give something it could be anything else except the leech console simply because it will cancel its effect!
Bah, why not just go all in instead? Next console swap, give the Feds the leach console, and the Klinks the anti-matter spread. If making mess, why make a small one?
Bah, why not just go all in instead? Next console swap, give the Feds the leach console, and the Klinks the anti-matter spread. If making mess, why make a small one?
exactly thats my point.
Some things are meant and made so they are unique.
Mess with that balance and soon you will end up with a broken game and factions that lost their uniqueness!!
Factions SHOULD be unique.
Especially this leech console should be unique because it cancel effect if both sides have it and it wastes one ship console slot since it cancels effect if both sides have it.
If you care to keep ur customers happy and keep them customers you must keep the leech console unique on KDF side and keep the cool fed console unique on fed side!
Maybe give them neutral warhead if u ''have'' to give them something.
And give us something in return ofc!
Just dont destroy the game in the name of greed i just started getting rly addicted to the game and now u plan to destroy it ..........
The game is already fine as it is atm just add a few more kdf ships idc about kdf content i have fun with my friends doing fleet mark ques and elite stfs and all day pvping
We need more KDF Ships and keep our unique console unique!
Keep the factions unique me as KDF i dont ask for tractor pets fed side has because i am intelligent enough to understand that factions are meant to be unique!
Otherwise there is no point to play different factions!
Feds with a plas console and MACO shield would pretty much give max power levels across the board. That obviously would not be a good thing for game balance so I'm guessing they will do it.
If there was no uniqueness, what would be the point of playing one faction over the other, other than for RP purposes? If anything, the Feds would have the advantage simply because they have better escorts and more content in overall, thus drawing more players.
Having some unique features to the KDF is better for ensuring that there are at least 2 thriving factions, and thus a real basis for PVP. The Feds have their own unique features and consoles, as well.
My PvP toon is Krov, of The House of Snoo. Beware of my Hegh'ta of doom.
I hate to tell you this mate, factions haven't been unique since the Attrox was given to the Feds. PWE seems more prepared to make the quick buck rather then the cash flow in the overall long-term. It's a shame as everything they have done in the last 6 months other than F2P and Alpha has really buggered this game.
I don't need any other than RP purposes to have and maintain Klingon toons. If you do, what does it say about you?
No offence mate, but a lot of people aren't content sitting about playing story games, we are serious gamers who are here to play a game, not make up stories, to have a challenge and some fun, something PWE seems content to kick to the curb with Dan Stahl as their little puppet.
Support the Game by Supporting the KDF, equality and uniqueness for all factions!
I hate to tell you this mate, factions haven't been unique since the Attrox was given to the Feds.(
They were unique before? Fed had story content, KDF had the best toys, but really was there any serious factionalism other than 'a half-azzed justification to shoot other players?'
When you put it like that, no not really. So much potential wasted on a company who does everything in half measures and moves on before finishing what they started. Been like that before launch, and sadly will be like that till the end unless they get a head boss to replace Dan Stahl who can organise the team and actually improves the team rather than making it more difficult for them.
Support the Game by Supporting the KDF, equality and uniqueness for all factions!
When you put it like that, no not really. So much potential wasted on a company who does everything in half measures and moves on before finishing what they started. Been like that before launch, and sadly will be like that till the end unless they get a head boss to replace Dan Stahl who can organise the team and actually improves the team rather than making it more difficult for them.
How much of that was Stahl though (not that I'm exactly defending him, so much as not wanting to brush it all off to a scapegoat) and how much of that is the community? I admit I only started a few weeks after F2P, but reading this board 2/3 of it is trash-talk and nastiness, too many Fed players (or just the same few over and over again?) making silly 'demands' or screeching about the difficulty being too high or low or diagonal or whatever, and then it seems just as many KDF threads whining like they're special and owed something. Turn on zone chat on ESD or DS9 and its a mass of trolls and know-it-alls, and if a newbie dares ask a question they get 19 kinds of flame for it (assuming said newbie tried looking it up themself first of course). Half of Drozana is would-be strippers who think character development=cyber. Kerrat reminds me of a mass of junior-high bullies who think 'fun' is a 3-on-1 slaughter of some newbie who just got a mission assignment to go kill some Borg. And on and on and on. This game is what the player base has made of it, and instead of the The Way Of Honor or Ex Astris, Scientia, we've made it into this.
I didn't hear KDF complaining when they were getting point to point defense console from Tholian lockboxes.
What do KDF have to say about over powered ships, admitted they dont have much c-store options - but how much powerful is that single Commander BoP.
Ya'll KDF take stuff for granted.
Now I play with both my Kling and Fed side characters equally, and I can say easily my BoP kicks more TRIBBLE anyday than any of my fed ship.
Stop whinin and if you wanna leave, leave.
You ain't getting new ships, that's understandable, I myself feel KDF should also get new ships since Klingons wont just sit there while UFP are spending time on R&D and releasing new ships.
Now I play with both my Kling and Fed side characters equally, and I can say easily my BoP kicks more TRIBBLE anyday than any of my fed ship.
Stop whinin and if you wanna leave, leave.
You ain't getting new ships, that's understandable, I myself feel KDF should also get new ships since Klingons wont just sit there while UFP are spending time on R&D and releasing new ships.
But this whine was dumb. Get over yourself.
Now I play with both my Kling and Fed side characters equally, and I can say easily my Fed ship kicks more TRIBBLE anyday than any of my BoP's.... Oh wow, I just killed your arguement.
Cloaking generators break down at first sign of language.
Feds with a plas console and MACO shield would pretty much give max power levels across the board. That obviously would not be a good thing for game balance so I'm guessing they will do it.
This ^
You destroy the game.
KDF will vanish with time.
Me as soon as you make this official beucause i paid RL money for the console so i get +16power but now if fed get it also the drain effect will be cancelled and i wont be getting anything instead i just wasted a slot console for nothing.
This is just so wrong 2do only whiners and trolls will support something like that and peps that generally are noobs and slackers and play federation only. (federation noobs only)
I paiod lots of money just for the console and also respeced just for the console thats at least 1500 zen now if u give me those back i will not quit but if u dont i spented 1500 zen and a month after u come along and propuse to give the leech console on every faction with lockboxes just to get even more greedy this is outrageous!!
YOU BRAKE DOWN THE GAME LEAVE THE LEECH CONSOLE ALONE ON KDF SIDE AND STOP NERFING IT ALL THE TIME.
Now I play with both my Kling and Fed side characters equally, and I can say easily my BoP kicks more TRIBBLE anyday than any of my fed ship.
But this whine was dumb. Get over yourself.
Do you see now PWE and Cryptic why you must carefully read what ppl is asking?
Because some ppl got no idea at all about the game.
Or they lie so they get overpower and eventually without any competition(AKA=trolls)
What i ask here is logical and fair and saves both factions from wasting a console slot.
If the leech console exists it MUST belong only to ONE faction due to the simple fact that IF BOTH FACTION HAVE IT THE CONSOLE WILL BE CANCELLING ITSELF AND WE WASTE A CONSOLE SLOT THAT DOES NOTHING!!!!
Federation already got a lot of ''boosts'' latetly with new ships and console
We KDF got nothing!
And now you talk about giving them our unique leech console so many ppl just rolled KDF just for that????
This is outrageous and i believe that a company that cares about its product wont do such a wrong, unfair and wasteful action.
what you can do is to introduce a new type of console or give in lockboxes bio neutral warhead or something else that wont be cancelling any effect if both sides have it!
I hate to tell you this mate, factions haven't been unique since the Attrox was given to the Feds
jo with give feds carrier option for unknown reason"all the time i have read its KDF only playstyle"
they destroy the uniqnes of ea fraktion fed get now in a turn all what kdf have and kdf.....+ TRIBBLE in starbase for KDF only no zstore ships the importend one.;)
Besides, if the past is anything to base future events on the next lockbox console exchange will once again be one of the best fed consoles going to the klingons and one of the worst klingon consoles going to the feds.
Theta Radiation being the exception. Feds got the better deal that time round.
Personally I hope feds do get the leech console. It would be good to have for pve. Although then i'd have the nightmare task of trying to decide what to replace.
You all know where this is going and you all know i am right.
It seems that last months PWE is favouring FED more than KDF.
In fact a lot more
Where they give OP ships in FED side they give no ships at all on KDF Side
And lots of other stuff i wont loose time to write down cause they are all over the forums.
But even the thought of sharing the leech console via lockboxes with federation or with any future faction this is just way to much for KDF to handle.
Yes you kill KDF if you do something like that ok i understand that u gave fed the OP unkillable in the right hands and tons of dps escort carrier with those bloody annoying tractor pets but sharing the leech console it more than just share something.
Its like a pure nerf on KDF side also the leech console wont ever work as good as it used even on fed side cause like i said in more specific threads the drain effect will be cancelling if both sides drain with this console resulting in a wasted console slot that doesnt nothing at all.
You all understand what i mean right?
No sides will gain any power AT ALL if both sides have same console!!!
So the fun factor even for federation player wont be as high as you initially think.
And u totally destroy the already mad KDF community .
Yes kdf players are not puppets thye are humans with brains and they can evaluate sutitation and judge things and actions.
So far u seem to favour federation only we have seen no content no new ships no new costumes not even new ship designs for fleet version ships and on top of that fed fleet version ships got higher stats than the KDF ones.
But all these are ok for me at least because i rly love this game and more specific i LOVE KDF!
I love KDF lore i love KDF ship design both inside and outside!
And i hate the federation saucer ship design and its luxury inside!
Why do you have to destroy this fine faction?
I bet that if u allowed ppl to roll KDF from lvl 1 then the high majority of the game population would be KDF i bet my degree on that!!!!
Show us some love we are many and we are loyal customers we love this game and we want to keep playing it as KDF.
Do not force us out of the game and dont make us PWE haters
Because if u act in the name of greed eventually player base is going to hate you and stay away from STO and prolly from any future games you will publish.
Right now i love you guys and i try to save this because if u give leech console via lockboxes its like a pure nerf in KDF side and a pure waste of money and console slot on federation side (because drain effect from both side will cancel the effect!)
We already got a couple of nerfs on the previous last months. If you plan to give leech console via lockboxes this will be the final shot on the KDF side and i suspect that as soon as KDF players in game find out what u did because not all players visit forums to learn the news i suspect a big uprise against so much unfairness against the KDF side.
Yes we are many and paid lots of money also we didnt do that so u come after some months to keep nerfing us week by week to the ground?
Come on you are logical you cant let KDF die right?
Cause right now YOU ARE KILLING US.
And if you give fed our leech console will be the final shot
Because last months fed get all the new cool good toys and we get nothing
We only had this leech console and now if u give this to them also u totally destroy us and destroy all reason for some1 to play KDF!!!!
Even if you do that you will kill KDF in vain because intelligent enough federation player wont pay 20 euro or more just to get a console that doesnt do anything......
Yeah it wont be doing anything because if we drain you and u drain back the drain effect will be cancelled and no side will gain any power at all!
WASTE OF MONEY AND CONSOLE SLOT UNDERSTAND THIS??
Srsly i find bio neutral warhead a lot of more useful dps boost console than the leech console and this doesnt cancel any effect if both sides have it.
Its like having an addition torpedo weapon equiped in console slots .
NO HARM DONE
But the leech console is different matter cause ITS EFFECT WILL BE CANCELLING MAKING IT NOT WORTH THE MONEY I PAID AND THE MONEY A FEW NO BRAIN FED WILL PAY ALSO
UNDERSTAND THIS? THIS IS LOGIC!!!!
DO NOT EVEN THINK OF THAT GIVE THE BIO NEUTRAL WARHEAD IF YOU HAVE TO GIVE THEM SOMETHING NOT THE LEECH CONSOLE OR ELSE YOU KILL KDF FOR NOTHING
(at least me i wont ever pay again i swear to god this time and i will prolly quit STO and go back to EvE)
(i bet there are a lot more KDF players that are going to feel exactly like me when they find out)
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Here its not logical to give federation the leech console because if both faction got the console
its a waste of money also waste of a ship slot.
Because both sides will be draining each other making the console have no effect at all
So this is just so WRONG.
Do that and i require my money back (i know i cant get them back but this time i mean it dont expect any more money from me for sure)
I go offline now until i have news that PWE will not do something so wrong so unfair and without a point except riping off newbies that will say hey nice console lets waste 1 slot for it because it doesnt do anything because every1 gots it....... only company sell stuff that doesnt do anything because every1 got the console so no drain at all for anyone this is just so silly.
I hope understand my point here this is just so wrong.
I apologize i whined about fed escort carrier that its op ship and stuff
I AM SORRY PWE FED ESCORT CARRIER IS JUST FINE JUST A LITTLE OP SHIP BUT THATS TOTALLY OK FOR ME.
But leech console you CANT be thinking to give that to fed side right?
Why to use it then if every1 is draining one another????
Whats the point of this? except of greed?
If you do that community will eventually understand how much greedy scums are you and deny you and ur games in the future.
We got brains we got sense of justice we are AWARE of ur vile plans and justice will prevail soon or later i promise that it always does!
If they got this console .. yea it sucks but its not gamebreaking, i only use this consol on my beamboat to get some energy to tank.
Gamebreaking is more : no discount for KDFs for the Fleet ships or 4 new Fed ships vs zero new KDF ships or ..... i can post some sides full of points that hammering KDFs into the ground but i think its enougth to read the History of Klingons from peregrin falcon
Here, let me help with that...
http://www.stowiki.org/User:Peregrine_Falcon#The_History_Of_The_Klingon_Empire_With_Cryptic_Studios
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thx i think every time peoples know how to use google XD so i always forget to post links
Srsly now i humbly apologize i ever whined (because i did sometimes espcially for the fed escort carrier)
I apologize PWE CRYPTIC and DEVS i humbly apologize if i ever whined because those reasons wherent serious enough to whine thats why i apologize.
But the leech console its a good reason to ''whine'' for many reasons.
First of all its a unique console for the KDF side(its a good reason why many ppl rolled kdf)
Secondly giving this console on both side it cancels its effect!!!! making it a unworthy purchase only good for company making money and not for players having fun!!!
Also
Third if both sides have the console like i said the drain effect will cancel itself so both sides will waste an console slot just to make the company more rich.....
Those 3 reason above prove with facts and profs that this is a move the company MUST not make if you wanna keep a nice decent name among the gamer community worldwide.
I mean even the feds like this console to remain unique for the kdf side.
First of all this console is MEANT to be unique because double drain from both side will result in no drain effect AT ALL.
Like i said i apologize for any silly reasons i whined at the past for plz u must understand that if you make this console for both side u destroy its value and also u destroy KDF cause this console is the reason why many ppl rolled and sticked to KDF char including me.
another reason that community doesnt care but still i say it is
4th reason is that i played kdf side only i invested lots of RL money to kdf side and now that u seem to favour fed side i will NOT pay again all those money into federation side as well i will just quit the game once and for life!
If i wanna play fed side i will once i got bored of my KDF side not because you favour FED and nerf KDF!!!!
You cant force me to play FED i am KDF maniac for many reasons!
Also the reason i made this post 2day is because some ppl are talking about giving either leech console or bio neutral warhead to fed side.
Ok the bio neutral warhead even if a powerfull console wont have much of an impact in the game only if we get something for giving the warhead but
The leech console it shouldnt even be on the discussion table simply because it will cancel its effect!!!!!!
Thats why i am here this is so outrageous thats why....
I dont agree to give anything unique on other side but if we have to give something it could be anything else except the leech console simply because it will cancel its effect!
TY
exactly thats my point.
Some things are meant and made so they are unique.
Mess with that balance and soon you will end up with a broken game and factions that lost their uniqueness!!
Factions SHOULD be unique.
Especially this leech console should be unique because it cancel effect if both sides have it and it wastes one ship console slot since it cancels effect if both sides have it.
If you care to keep ur customers happy and keep them customers you must keep the leech console unique on KDF side and keep the cool fed console unique on fed side!
Maybe give them neutral warhead if u ''have'' to give them something.
And give us something in return ofc!
Just dont destroy the game in the name of greed i just started getting rly addicted to the game and now u plan to destroy it ..........
The game is already fine as it is atm just add a few more kdf ships idc about kdf content i have fun with my friends doing fleet mark ques and elite stfs and all day pvping
We need more KDF Ships and keep our unique console unique!
Keep the factions unique me as KDF i dont ask for tractor pets fed side has because i am intelligent enough to understand that factions are meant to be unique!
Otherwise there is no point to play different factions!
Why?
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If there was no uniqueness, what would be the point of playing one faction over the other, other than for RP purposes? If anything, the Feds would have the advantage simply because they have better escorts and more content in overall, thus drawing more players.
Having some unique features to the KDF is better for ensuring that there are at least 2 thriving factions, and thus a real basis for PVP. The Feds have their own unique features and consoles, as well.
Star Trek Online, Now with out the Trek....
It's unique and players desire to protect it because it's awesome.
If it sucked, no one would care about it being unique.
I hate to tell you this mate, factions haven't been unique since the Attrox was given to the Feds. PWE seems more prepared to make the quick buck rather then the cash flow in the overall long-term. It's a shame as everything they have done in the last 6 months other than F2P and Alpha has really buggered this game.
No offence mate, but a lot of people aren't content sitting about playing story games, we are serious gamers who are here to play a game, not make up stories, to have a challenge and some fun, something PWE seems content to kick to the curb with Dan Stahl as their little puppet.
They were unique before? Fed had story content, KDF had the best toys, but really was there any serious factionalism other than 'a half-azzed justification to shoot other players?'
When you put it like that, no not really. So much potential wasted on a company who does everything in half measures and moves on before finishing what they started. Been like that before launch, and sadly will be like that till the end unless they get a head boss to replace Dan Stahl who can organise the team and actually improves the team rather than making it more difficult for them.
How much of that was Stahl though (not that I'm exactly defending him, so much as not wanting to brush it all off to a scapegoat) and how much of that is the community? I admit I only started a few weeks after F2P, but reading this board 2/3 of it is trash-talk and nastiness, too many Fed players (or just the same few over and over again?) making silly 'demands' or screeching about the difficulty being too high or low or diagonal or whatever, and then it seems just as many KDF threads whining like they're special and owed something. Turn on zone chat on ESD or DS9 and its a mass of trolls and know-it-alls, and if a newbie dares ask a question they get 19 kinds of flame for it (assuming said newbie tried looking it up themself first of course). Half of Drozana is would-be strippers who think character development=cyber. Kerrat reminds me of a mass of junior-high bullies who think 'fun' is a 3-on-1 slaughter of some newbie who just got a mission assignment to go kill some Borg. And on and on and on. This game is what the player base has made of it, and instead of the The Way Of Honor or Ex Astris, Scientia, we've made it into this.
What do KDF have to say about over powered ships, admitted they dont have much c-store options - but how much powerful is that single Commander BoP.
Ya'll KDF take stuff for granted.
Now I play with both my Kling and Fed side characters equally, and I can say easily my BoP kicks more TRIBBLE anyday than any of my fed ship.
Stop whinin and if you wanna leave, leave.
You ain't getting new ships, that's understandable, I myself feel KDF should also get new ships since Klingons wont just sit there while UFP are spending time on R&D and releasing new ships.
But this whine was dumb. Get over yourself.
EPG builds / SCI ground enthusiast
Now I play with both my Kling and Fed side characters equally, and I can say easily my Fed ship kicks more TRIBBLE anyday than any of my BoP's.... Oh wow, I just killed your arguement.
This ^
You destroy the game.
KDF will vanish with time.
Me as soon as you make this official beucause i paid RL money for the console so i get +16power but now if fed get it also the drain effect will be cancelled and i wont be getting anything instead i just wasted a slot console for nothing.
This is just so wrong 2do only whiners and trolls will support something like that and peps that generally are noobs and slackers and play federation only. (federation noobs only)
I paiod lots of money just for the console and also respeced just for the console thats at least 1500 zen now if u give me those back i will not quit but if u dont i spented 1500 zen and a month after u come along and propuse to give the leech console on every faction with lockboxes just to get even more greedy this is outrageous!!
YOU BRAKE DOWN THE GAME LEAVE THE LEECH CONSOLE ALONE ON KDF SIDE AND STOP NERFING IT ALL THE TIME.
Do you see now PWE and Cryptic why you must carefully read what ppl is asking?
Because some ppl got no idea at all about the game.
Or they lie so they get overpower and eventually without any competition(AKA=trolls)
What i ask here is logical and fair and saves both factions from wasting a console slot.
If the leech console exists it MUST belong only to ONE faction due to the simple fact that IF BOTH FACTION HAVE IT THE CONSOLE WILL BE CANCELLING ITSELF AND WE WASTE A CONSOLE SLOT THAT DOES NOTHING!!!!
Federation already got a lot of ''boosts'' latetly with new ships and console
We KDF got nothing!
And now you talk about giving them our unique leech console so many ppl just rolled KDF just for that????
This is outrageous and i believe that a company that cares about its product wont do such a wrong, unfair and wasteful action.
what you can do is to introduce a new type of console or give in lockboxes bio neutral warhead or something else that wont be cancelling any effect if both sides have it!
Logic and justice above everything!
EPG builds / SCI ground enthusiast
jo with give feds carrier option for unknown reason"all the time i have read its KDF only playstyle"
they destroy the uniqnes of ea fraktion fed get now in a turn all what kdf have and kdf.....+ TRIBBLE in starbase for KDF only no zstore ships the importend one.;)
so i have fun with my diiing fraktion.
Besides, if the past is anything to base future events on the next lockbox console exchange will once again be one of the best fed consoles going to the klingons and one of the worst klingon consoles going to the feds.
Theta Radiation being the exception. Feds got the better deal that time round.
Personally I hope feds do get the leech console. It would be good to have for pve. Although then i'd have the nightmare task of trying to decide what to replace.
This post has been edited to remove content which violates the Perfect World Entertainment Community Rules and Policies . ~Askray
It seems that last months PWE is favouring FED more than KDF.
In fact a lot more
Where they give OP ships in FED side they give no ships at all on KDF Side
And lots of other stuff i wont loose time to write down cause they are all over the forums.
But even the thought of sharing the leech console via lockboxes with federation or with any future faction this is just way to much for KDF to handle.
Yes you kill KDF if you do something like that ok i understand that u gave fed the OP unkillable in the right hands and tons of dps escort carrier with those bloody annoying tractor pets but sharing the leech console it more than just share something.
Its like a pure nerf on KDF side also the leech console wont ever work as good as it used even on fed side cause like i said in more specific threads the drain effect will be cancelling if both sides drain with this console resulting in a wasted console slot that doesnt nothing at all.
You all understand what i mean right?
No sides will gain any power AT ALL if both sides have same console!!!
So the fun factor even for federation player wont be as high as you initially think.
And u totally destroy the already mad KDF community .
Yes kdf players are not puppets thye are humans with brains and they can evaluate sutitation and judge things and actions.
So far u seem to favour federation only we have seen no content no new ships no new costumes not even new ship designs for fleet version ships and on top of that fed fleet version ships got higher stats than the KDF ones.
But all these are ok for me at least because i rly love this game and more specific i LOVE KDF!
I love KDF lore i love KDF ship design both inside and outside!
And i hate the federation saucer ship design and its luxury inside!
Why do you have to destroy this fine faction?
I bet that if u allowed ppl to roll KDF from lvl 1 then the high majority of the game population would be KDF i bet my degree on that!!!!
Show us some love we are many and we are loyal customers we love this game and we want to keep playing it as KDF.
Do not force us out of the game and dont make us PWE haters
Because if u act in the name of greed eventually player base is going to hate you and stay away from STO and prolly from any future games you will publish.
Right now i love you guys and i try to save this because if u give leech console via lockboxes its like a pure nerf in KDF side and a pure waste of money and console slot on federation side (because drain effect from both side will cancel the effect!)
We already got a couple of nerfs on the previous last months. If you plan to give leech console via lockboxes this will be the final shot on the KDF side and i suspect that as soon as KDF players in game find out what u did because not all players visit forums to learn the news i suspect a big uprise against so much unfairness against the KDF side.
Yes we are many and paid lots of money also we didnt do that so u come after some months to keep nerfing us week by week to the ground?
Come on you are logical you cant let KDF die right?
Cause right now YOU ARE KILLING US.
And if you give fed our leech console will be the final shot
Because last months fed get all the new cool good toys and we get nothing
We only had this leech console and now if u give this to them also u totally destroy us and destroy all reason for some1 to play KDF!!!!
Even if you do that you will kill KDF in vain because intelligent enough federation player wont pay 20 euro or more just to get a console that doesnt do anything......
Yeah it wont be doing anything because if we drain you and u drain back the drain effect will be cancelled and no side will gain any power at all!
WASTE OF MONEY AND CONSOLE SLOT UNDERSTAND THIS??
Srsly i find bio neutral warhead a lot of more useful dps boost console than the leech console and this doesnt cancel any effect if both sides have it.
Its like having an addition torpedo weapon equiped in console slots .
NO HARM DONE
But the leech console is different matter cause ITS EFFECT WILL BE CANCELLING MAKING IT NOT WORTH THE MONEY I PAID AND THE MONEY A FEW NO BRAIN FED WILL PAY ALSO
UNDERSTAND THIS? THIS IS LOGIC!!!!
DO NOT EVEN THINK OF THAT GIVE THE BIO NEUTRAL WARHEAD IF YOU HAVE TO GIVE THEM SOMETHING NOT THE LEECH CONSOLE OR ELSE YOU KILL KDF FOR NOTHING
(at least me i wont ever pay again i swear to god this time and i will prolly quit STO and go back to EvE)
(i bet there are a lot more KDF players that are going to feel exactly like me when they find out)