it's possible-not likely, but possible, I suppose, to have a rainboat and be effective-moderately, anywah.
run all torp consoles with HYT and Torp Spreads, all projectile DoFFs, and the right sci powers, maybe, so that it doesn't matter WHAT energy weps you're hauling, because it's all about the projectiles.
MAYBE.
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A pure energy boat works just fine. It's not optimal, but I'd wager I could post higher damage numbers in a pure energy skittle setup than about 98% of the folks your likely to come across in pug eSTFs do in their single energy boats. It's far more about skills, key binds, etc than it is your weapon layout,
No, there really isn't. The damage parse would come directly from an eSTF. If you'd like I'll post a video as well, although that might need to wait an extra day or two. 90% of skittle/rainbow boats DPS problems have little to do with their weapons selection.
I've seen more than enough experiances with skittle boats, no video needed, no numbers needed.
So you admit it's the pilot then, and not the weapons. Works for me.
Yes, from what I've seen skittle and rainbow setups are normally flown by unexperianced pilots with lousy setup. In the hands of an experianced pilot they might do fair, but I've never seen one and don't really expect to. I've seen hundreds of skittles and rainbows and cringe every time. I've also seen shuttles in STF's before they were banned, Farmers, Sabateurs, Directors, Cryers, Lost Souls, Noobes and much much more. I'll always cringe when I see a Skittle and nothing will change that. No numbers, no videos or anything else.
If you want to see what other people think of Skittles and Rainbows, read the whole forum.
I'm gonna drop this. This sig is for posting or experiances with STF's and fleet events.
Nuff said. Back to the bad STF's.
Trouble is I don't think I've ever really seen an effective skittle/rainbow boat. They almost always have trouble taking down whatever they're shooting at without assistance, explode frequently, and then pretty much fly back in and repeat the exact same thing that sent them to respawn oblivion a few moments prior. They can be quite a menace too sometimes - fly in, get everything's attention, and then explode leaving everyone else to clean up their mess.
I've heard the argument, in Zone Chat, that equiping multiple weapon-types is more effective than using a single-type as the "enemies shields can't adapt to them all".
O, I was just summarising the argument, really. I didn't really see anybody disagreeing on that count, and I wouldn't ever go there myself. I was just pointing out that the argument wasn't really an argument, but confusion started by somebody wondering whether a good captain would be much hindered by mismatched weapon types.
I was horrendously bored, so I decided to go full skittle-raptor with my KDF tac toon. I warned my team-mates from the get-go, but they were cool with it (advantage to almost everyone in the PESTF channel being friendly with each other) and we got started. Sufficed to say, full skittle DHCs are actually still very effective, simply because they are DHCs on a raptor. I wasn't averaging my usual 3k per hit that I get from running full disruptors, instead I was down to about 2k per hit. But I was still able to do enough damage to get get aggro and donatra aggro every so often.
So sufficed to say, skittle-boats are viable, even if not as effective as pure ships. It's mostly the player it would seem (I like to think I am a decent player, at least for PvE, I have no illusions to my scrubness at PvP), and since I am a 5/10 player, I made a skittle-boat work. I much prefer my full disruptor build however.
Anyways, sufficed to say, we won, and my team-mates were laughing at me once they realized I wasn't kidding XD.
So TL;DR =
Heretic was dumb enough to do a skittle-boat. And it worked. Wasn't as effective as a pure energy build, but can still work. So it comes down to purely player it would seem. Since I only lost 30% of my damage.
It is said the best weapon is one that is never fired. I disagree. The best weapon is one you only have to fire... once.
In which case it would seem that the majority of the players flying around in rainbow/skittle boats simply have bad ship setups.
It may not be bad ship setups so much as general incompetence in play. I mean, I was chaining abilities together like a boss, like most experienced players do (you know, constant TT uptime, CRF combined with APB and APO, the usual). A lot of those skittle and rainbow boats don't do that. Tbh, the majority of ships like that, I often wonder if they even have BOffs equipped, I see so few abilities activating.
But the reason why most of these skittle/rainbow boats die is they don't use tac team. I hardly ever see CRF/CSV/anything resembling an attack pattern. And EPtX? What's that? That's what really makes them weak and sets them apart. Their either lack of usage of BOff abilities, or incompetent usage if they do.
It is said the best weapon is one that is never fired. I disagree. The best weapon is one you only have to fire... once.
I started as a noob with the normal stf's. I learned from people and when I was ready in skills, equipment, I started with the elites. These days I'm starting to believe that everyone is justing doing elites because it gives you lots more rewards...
Not only is it frustrating but it becomes harder and harder to find a random team that is able to get the job done..
I was going to respond to Heritic last night but as I was setting there my back popped out. Ouch ouch ouch.. The kids were wanting to play STO anyhow. Now I can't get out of bed. LOL.
Way back when the earth was young, (I'm well past my 1000 days) I tried the rainbow/technicolor thing. I'd just made admiral upper half. I didn't play constantly back then like I do now. My family has even gotten involved now which they weren't back then. WoW was what we were all doing and still do every now and then.
Anyhow I was having troubles with my build. I don't remember what ship I was flying but it was before the excelsior had come out. I read as much as I could on the ship builds from the forums but I still went boom often but really no more often than anyone else.
I do recall that I tried every type of weapon that I could, switching them back and forth until I settled for APs.
One day in a enemy signal contact I saw someone blasting away with rainbows. I didn't notice at that time if he was making a dent or not. I thought it looked cool and remembered the Borg in Star Trek and how the could adapt to the weapons. Rainbows suddenly made since.
I took out all but one AP front and rear and added one of each other weapons type until the slots were full. I filled the tactical slots with directed energy consoles and went looking for a fight.
I entered a Borg enemy signal contact and started shooting away.
Hmmmm. Something was wrong. The probes weren't dying as fast as they did before. It took several seconds longer. My numbers weren't in the thousand like they weren't before. I moused over the weapons and saw that the DPS was quite a bit lower than it was before. I have the exact figures in my STO notes but they are jumbled with something else so I'm thinking they are running about 30 to 100 DPS lower.
I continued the mission until everything was dead and waited for the next round. While waiting I put everything back the way it was before. All antiproton. The mission started and things went boom again and the DPS was back where it was before.
The mission ended and I reinstalled the rainbows the way they were the first go.
The mission started and down went the numbers.
Someone yelled in chat, "LOL Rainbows." There was another remark that came by also bit it had a lot of $j)/@ in it.
Anyhow, I tried a couple more times and the numbers were low enough to make me decide against using rainbows or skittles. Plus the remarks from others were not cool and I didn't want that kind of publicity.
Rainbows and skittles are banned within my fleet. If anyone is seen using them they will be kicked. It's a small fleet of mostly family members but they know better.
To this day, if I see a ship with rainbows I am going to say in chat, "LOL Rainbows" if I get the chance.
On another note, I recently helped one member set up a fleet boat with the polarized disruptor beams. Holy moly that ship has some DPS. :P
Reading this thread has given me excellent ideas as to what NOT to do in setting up a ship. For starters, I actually pick an energy type and stick to it (for instance, my Fed Prometheus [non-MVAE yet, too broke right now] has a pure phaser setup, my Klink Negh'var has a
pure tetryon setup, and my Klink BOP [level 31 so far lol] has a pure disruptor setup with quad disruptor cannons.
So far I haven't seen really terribad STFs, but that might be because for the time being I'm still in the process of getting my feet wet and running normal PUG STFs.
I'm so tired of incompetent people i could screem.
I just finished a csn. We won but barely.
At the beginning I went to the Kang first which is something I never do. ALL 4 TEAM MATES FOLLOWED!
Nobody flew left, nobody flew right, nobody flew to the center. Nobody was taking out cubes or nodes.
I typed, Is anyone going to take on the cubes? Nobody said or did anything. I left the group and flew over to the right cube and started attacking.
I get down to the cube and someone starts yelling 10% 10% only take the cube to 10%.
I said, this is a NORMAL! He said even in normal your only to take it to 10%.
I typed LOL and killed it.
Now the guy is peaved. :mad: He starts calling me a noob and tells me I need to leave and telling me we were going to lose the match because I killed the cube.
I just flew over to the middle and started shooting.
I then typed, If your so good then get out here and help. You don't need 4 people at the Kang.
Nobody came in to help. This guy was saying how he's going to report me and blackball me. I just typed LOL. Someone else is typing LOL now and LMAOROF. They said, Go Gettum Nelly! I laughed.
I'm at the third cube now. Three of the other ships come out of hiding and start helping. The loudmouth was still setting at the Kang.
The third cube is quickly dispatched.
The guy at the Kang doesn't hail the Kang like he should so I flew in to do it with only a couple seconds to spare while the other three worked on the the warships.
The carrier emerges and I finally see, low and behold, the loudmouth has rainbows. PLUS he keeps pushing the carrier away from us. :eek: Suprise Suprise
The mission ends, I type We're going to lose huh??? But the guy leaves without a word before I send it. I was happy though, I pulled 5 of the borg nural processors.
I'm so tired of incompetent people i could screem.
I just finished a csn. We won but barely.
At the beginning I went to the Kang first which is something I never do. ALL 4 TEAM MATES FOLLOWED!
Nobody flew left, nobody flew right, nobody flew to the center. Nobody was taking out cubes or nodes.
I typed, Is anyone going to take on the cubes? Nobody said or did anything. I left the group and flew over to the right cube and started attacking.
I get down to the cube and someone starts yelling 10% 10% only take the cube to 10%.
I said, this is a NORMAL! He said even in normal your only to take it to 10%.
I typed LOL and killed it.
Now the guy is peaved. :mad: He starts calling me a noob and tells me I need to leave and telling me we were going to lose the match because I killed the cube.
I just flew over to the middle and started shooting.
I then typed, If your so good then get out here and help. You don't need 4 people at the Kang.
Nobody came in to help. This guy was saying how he's going to report me and blackball me. I just typed LOL. Someone else is typing LOL now and LMAOROF. They said, Go Gettum Nelly! I laughed.
I'm at the third cube now. Three of the other ships come out of hiding and start helping. The loudmouth was still setting at the Kang.
The third cube is quickly dispatched.
The guy at the Kang doesn't hail the Kang like he should so I flew in to do it with only a couple seconds to spare while the other three worked on the the warships.
The carrier emerges and I finally see, low and behold, the loudmouth has rainbows. PLUS he keeps pushing the carrier away from us. :eek: Suprise Suprise
The mission ends, I type We're going to lose huh??? But the guy leaves without a word before I send it. I was happy though, I pulled 5 of the borg nural processors.
You know what the funniest part about this post was (despite the blatant but probably deserving arrogance of the poster)? Even on CSE we don't do 10%. That's an antiquated and inefficient method of doing the map. The standard now is MRRMLL, and for the really high DPS teams you see on EliteSTF and some of us bored guys gone bawlzy on PublicEliteSTF do RML. 10%? Whuzzat?
It is said the best weapon is one that is never fired. I disagree. The best weapon is one you only have to fire... once.
Sorry, I wasn't trying to be arrogant. Aggravated would be a better word. I haven't seen, or at least not posted many bad STF's or Fleet Events in the last few days. That one was a wopper so I thougt I'd share.
Sorry, I wasn't trying to be arrogant. Aggravated would be a better word. I haven't seen, or at least not posted many bad STF's or Fleet Events in the last few days. That one was a wopper so I thougt I'd share.
Oh no, please, you are deserving of the arrogance, since your skill level was at that point. It was not meant to be sarcastic or insulting. XD
Probably one of those, who has read something and starts repeating it like a parrot....I guess it would have taken too long to explain that the 10% rule applies only to ISE.
These days I feel really lucky if there is another player in a PuG at around my level, especially in KASE - it makes the things much easier.
Let's see how today's changes will affect the behaviour of the NPCs. As far as I understood the things changed, the overall damage of the NPCs remains the same, just the variation of the magnitude would be more constant.
I really hope, that they wouldn't nerf the SSR from +1k to +50 per 6 sec. as I speculated yesterday in the fleet chat. If that is the "works as intended" value (+50), I would feel severely screwedup in choosing it instead of the kinetic damage proc.
Probably one of those, who has read something and starts repeating it like a parrot....I guess it would have taken too long to explain that the 10% rule applies only to ISE.
These days I feel really lucky if there is another player in a PuG at around my level, especially in KASE - it makes the things much easier.
Let's see how today's changes will affect the behaviour of the NPCs. As far as I understood the things changed, the overall damage of the NPCs remains the same, just the variation of the magnitude would be more constant.
I really hope, that they wouldn't nerf the SSR from +1k to +50 per 6 sec. as I speculated yesterday in the fleet chat. If that is the "works as intended" value (+50), I would feel severely screwedup in choosing it instead of the kinetic damage proc.
I have an inside source that said they would at most nerf SSR 20%. As for the NPCs, their overall damage has been reduced. By a lot. And the top cap has also been greatly reduced. Even though there will be fewer bottom duds, doesn't change the fact that a global 10% damage reduction, and a 20% plasma burn reduction are still significant.
It is said the best weapon is one that is never fired. I disagree. The best weapon is one you only have to fire... once.
I have an inside source that said they would at most nerf SSR 20%. As for the NPCs, their overall damage has been reduced. By a lot. And the top cap has also been greatly reduced. Even though there will be fewer bottom duds, doesn't change the fact that a global 10% damage reduction, and a 20% plasma burn reduction are still significant.
Plasma burn werde plain annoying, so I can live with that xD
Lessining the spikes and duds is a good thing.
Does the global damage reduction come from removing the spikes? I really hope so. When not, then please Cryptic augment the overall damage for 20-25% on Elite :-) So that healers/crosshealing are more important.
Plasma burn werde plain annoying, so I can live with that xD
Lessining the spikes and duds is a good thing.
Does the global damage reduction come from removing the spikes? I really hope so. When not, then please Cryptic augment the overall damage for 20-25% on Elite :-) So that healers/crosshealing are more important.
on one hand, I would love if the borg was stronger, but not in the cheating way (oneshots). if they removed these supercrits, imo they could increase the dps atleast by 200%
however on the other hand the higher need for healers and such, would make this topic more interesting.
Just came back from a disastrous elite Khitomer space and need to vent.
It began quite promisingly. After getting through the cube rather quickly, everyone agrees to start with left. One guy says "goin rite", everyone assumes he'll guard the probes. Instead he proceeds to completely ignore them, and tries to take on the far (?!) conduit by himself, cube and all. After he gets blowed up and obviously lets the probes through, he calls everyone "noobz" for not helping him and rage-quits.
Unfortunately two others got discouraged and also left. Myself and one other guy stuck around for a bit more, hoping some more random people will join, but nobody ever did
im holding my lane, and killing the cube, i finish off my cube then notice the other 4 people are at the kang.
im then getting told in the chat box that i wasnt a team player because i killed the cube,and that i ruined the game.
now....
me in a science ship could hold and hill his entire lane himself...
wtf were the other 4 people doing?
so apparently i learned i was a noob and "anti- team" minded.
yay... -_-
You very well might have screwed the mission if you blew a cube and the others still had gens running and Neg'vars started spawning - were you keeping track of the status of the other 4 people and the status of the other cubes?
Do you pug cure elite a lot? If a cube is popped and the other 2 cubes spawn Neg'vars and raptors - half the time 5 people defending will FAIL!
This is a common thing in CSN. For whatever reason 4 of the team ships will think they need to protect the Kang. IF all 4 had any DPS at all they would be able to protect the Kang. But all to often they all have Rainbow/Technicolor beams and/or have their weapons set on stun and lose the optional.
In reality, it only takes ONE properly set up ship to protect the Kang. That ship should be able to keep anything from ever firing a shot at the Kang.
I stopped protecting the Kang long ago. In fact I don't even worry about going after any ships being spawned. I just kill nodes and cubes and fly on over to the next. Using this tactic I can usually clear out all the cubes in 9 minutes or less by myself.
If the others are helping out at the cubes like they should be, then I'll help kill the spawns, otherwise NO WAY. If we lose because 4 ships setting at the Kang can't protect it then so be it.
With 4 people protecting Kang those N'V shouldn't get closer than 15km from Kang.
Most Kang defenders on pugs like to sit at the kang and only engage when the enemy starts shooting at the kang. And they are usually grouped up. (read below for more)
Do you pug cure elite a lot? If a cube is popped and the other 2 cubes spawn Neg'vars and raptors - half the time 5 people defending will FAIL!
I have two words that explain exactly why this is the case. Those morons defending the kang with more than one person are usually grouped up. The two words that explain exactly why they will fail: Isometric Charge. Need more be said.
It is said the best weapon is one that is never fired. I disagree. The best weapon is one you only have to fire... once.
Most Kang defenders on pugs like to sit at the kang and only engage when the enemy starts shooting at the kang.
Heres a big 'If'
IF the people of the team have realistic DPS and otherwise well set up ships;
AND
IF the people know how to properly run a CSN or CSE;
THEN the ship which is supposed to be protecting the Kang should never have to fire a shot unless he too KNOWS what he's supposed to be doing and flys into the cubes as the Borg are spawning and kills them as they spawn.
And IF the people at the cubes know what they are doing then they too should be helping kill the spawns.
And still, nothing should ever get close enough to the Kang to fire a shot.
BUT this is something you'll never see in a PuG filled with Farmers, Rainbow/Technicolor Weapons, Noobes, Skittles, and all around Clowns.
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A pure energy boat works just fine. It's not optimal, but I'd wager I could post higher damage numbers in a pure energy skittle setup than about 98% of the folks your likely to come across in pug eSTFs do in their single energy boats. It's far more about skills, key binds, etc than it is your weapon layout,
I've seen more than enough experiances with skittle boats, no video needed, no numbers needed.
So you admit it's the pilot then, and not the weapons. Works for me.
Yes, from what I've seen skittle and rainbow setups are normally flown by unexperianced pilots with lousy setup. In the hands of an experianced pilot they might do fair, but I've never seen one and don't really expect to. I've seen hundreds of skittles and rainbows and cringe every time. I've also seen shuttles in STF's before they were banned, Farmers, Sabateurs, Directors, Cryers, Lost Souls, Noobes and much much more. I'll always cringe when I see a Skittle and nothing will change that. No numbers, no videos or anything else.
If you want to see what other people think of Skittles and Rainbows, read the whole forum.
I'm gonna drop this. This sig is for posting or experiances with STF's and fleet events.
Nuff said. Back to the bad STF's.
O, I was just summarising the argument, really. I didn't really see anybody disagreeing on that count, and I wouldn't ever go there myself. I was just pointing out that the argument wasn't really an argument, but confusion started by somebody wondering whether a good captain would be much hindered by mismatched weapon types.
So sufficed to say, skittle-boats are viable, even if not as effective as pure ships. It's mostly the player it would seem (I like to think I am a decent player, at least for PvE, I have no illusions to my scrubness at PvP), and since I am a 5/10 player, I made a skittle-boat work. I much prefer my full disruptor build however.
Anyways, sufficed to say, we won, and my team-mates were laughing at me once they realized I wasn't kidding XD.
So TL;DR =
Heretic was dumb enough to do a skittle-boat. And it worked. Wasn't as effective as a pure energy build, but can still work. So it comes down to purely player it would seem. Since I only lost 30% of my damage.
It may not be bad ship setups so much as general incompetence in play. I mean, I was chaining abilities together like a boss, like most experienced players do (you know, constant TT uptime, CRF combined with APB and APO, the usual). A lot of those skittle and rainbow boats don't do that. Tbh, the majority of ships like that, I often wonder if they even have BOffs equipped, I see so few abilities activating.
But the reason why most of these skittle/rainbow boats die is they don't use tac team. I hardly ever see CRF/CSV/anything resembling an attack pattern. And EPtX? What's that? That's what really makes them weak and sets them apart. Their either lack of usage of BOff abilities, or incompetent usage if they do.
Not only is it frustrating but it becomes harder and harder to find a random team that is able to get the job done..
Way back when the earth was young, (I'm well past my 1000 days) I tried the rainbow/technicolor thing. I'd just made admiral upper half. I didn't play constantly back then like I do now. My family has even gotten involved now which they weren't back then. WoW was what we were all doing and still do every now and then.
Anyhow I was having troubles with my build. I don't remember what ship I was flying but it was before the excelsior had come out. I read as much as I could on the ship builds from the forums but I still went boom often but really no more often than anyone else.
I do recall that I tried every type of weapon that I could, switching them back and forth until I settled for APs.
One day in a enemy signal contact I saw someone blasting away with rainbows. I didn't notice at that time if he was making a dent or not. I thought it looked cool and remembered the Borg in Star Trek and how the could adapt to the weapons. Rainbows suddenly made since.
I took out all but one AP front and rear and added one of each other weapons type until the slots were full. I filled the tactical slots with directed energy consoles and went looking for a fight.
I entered a Borg enemy signal contact and started shooting away.
Hmmmm. Something was wrong. The probes weren't dying as fast as they did before. It took several seconds longer. My numbers weren't in the thousand like they weren't before. I moused over the weapons and saw that the DPS was quite a bit lower than it was before. I have the exact figures in my STO notes but they are jumbled with something else so I'm thinking they are running about 30 to 100 DPS lower.
I continued the mission until everything was dead and waited for the next round. While waiting I put everything back the way it was before. All antiproton. The mission started and things went boom again and the DPS was back where it was before.
The mission ended and I reinstalled the rainbows the way they were the first go.
The mission started and down went the numbers.
Someone yelled in chat, "LOL Rainbows." There was another remark that came by also bit it had a lot of $j)/@ in it.
Anyhow, I tried a couple more times and the numbers were low enough to make me decide against using rainbows or skittles. Plus the remarks from others were not cool and I didn't want that kind of publicity.
Rainbows and skittles are banned within my fleet. If anyone is seen using them they will be kicked. It's a small fleet of mostly family members but they know better.
To this day, if I see a ship with rainbows I am going to say in chat, "LOL Rainbows" if I get the chance.
On another note, I recently helped one member set up a fleet boat with the polarized disruptor beams. Holy moly that ship has some DPS. :P
A rainbow/technicolor boat can still be a tank. They just sacrifice weapons power. :eek:
So far I haven't seen really terribad STFs, but that might be because for the time being I'm still in the process of getting my feet wet and running normal PUG STFs.
ROLL TIDE ROLL
I just finished a csn. We won but barely.
At the beginning I went to the Kang first which is something I never do. ALL 4 TEAM MATES FOLLOWED!
Nobody flew left, nobody flew right, nobody flew to the center. Nobody was taking out cubes or nodes.
I typed, Is anyone going to take on the cubes? Nobody said or did anything. I left the group and flew over to the right cube and started attacking.
I get down to the cube and someone starts yelling 10% 10% only take the cube to 10%.
I said, this is a NORMAL! He said even in normal your only to take it to 10%.
I typed LOL and killed it.
Now the guy is peaved. :mad: He starts calling me a noob and tells me I need to leave and telling me we were going to lose the match because I killed the cube.
I just flew over to the middle and started shooting.
I then typed, If your so good then get out here and help. You don't need 4 people at the Kang.
Nobody came in to help. This guy was saying how he's going to report me and blackball me. I just typed LOL. Someone else is typing LOL now and LMAOROF. They said, Go Gettum Nelly! I laughed.
I'm at the third cube now. Three of the other ships come out of hiding and start helping. The loudmouth was still setting at the Kang.
The third cube is quickly dispatched.
The guy at the Kang doesn't hail the Kang like he should so I flew in to do it with only a couple seconds to spare while the other three worked on the the warships.
The carrier emerges and I finally see, low and behold, the loudmouth has rainbows. PLUS he keeps pushing the carrier away from us. :eek: Suprise Suprise
The mission ends, I type We're going to lose huh??? But the guy leaves without a word before I send it. I was happy though, I pulled 5 of the borg nural processors.
You know what the funniest part about this post was (despite the blatant but probably deserving arrogance of the poster)? Even on CSE we don't do 10%. That's an antiquated and inefficient method of doing the map. The standard now is MRRMLL, and for the really high DPS teams you see on EliteSTF and some of us bored guys gone bawlzy on PublicEliteSTF do RML. 10%? Whuzzat?
I laughed... though this is kind of the point of this topic
10k DPS Vesta threads: 1; 2
Oh no, please, you are deserving of the arrogance, since your skill level was at that point. It was not meant to be sarcastic or insulting. XD
Glad to be of service
These days I feel really lucky if there is another player in a PuG at around my level, especially in KASE - it makes the things much easier.
Let's see how today's changes will affect the behaviour of the NPCs. As far as I understood the things changed, the overall damage of the NPCs remains the same, just the variation of the magnitude would be more constant.
I really hope, that they wouldn't nerf the SSR from +1k to +50 per 6 sec. as I speculated yesterday in the fleet chat. If that is the "works as intended" value (+50), I would feel severely screwedup in choosing it instead of the kinetic damage proc.
I have an inside source that said they would at most nerf SSR 20%. As for the NPCs, their overall damage has been reduced. By a lot. And the top cap has also been greatly reduced. Even though there will be fewer bottom duds, doesn't change the fact that a global 10% damage reduction, and a 20% plasma burn reduction are still significant.
Plasma burn werde plain annoying, so I can live with that xD
Lessining the spikes and duds is a good thing.
Does the global damage reduction come from removing the spikes? I really hope so. When not, then please Cryptic augment the overall damage for 20-25% on Elite :-) So that healers/crosshealing are more important.
in a science ship
kicking butt
im holding my lane, and killing the cube, i finish off my cube then notice the other 4 people are at the kang.
im then getting told in the chat box that i wasnt a team player because i killed the cube,and that i ruined the game.
now....
me in a science ship could hold and hill his entire lane himself...
wtf were the other 4 people doing?
so apparently i learned i was a noob and "anti- team" minded.
yay... -_-
Do you even Science Bro?
on one hand, I would love if the borg was stronger, but not in the cheating way (oneshots). if they removed these supercrits, imo they could increase the dps atleast by 200%
however on the other hand the higher need for healers and such, would make this topic more interesting.
10k DPS Vesta threads: 1; 2
It began quite promisingly. After getting through the cube rather quickly, everyone agrees to start with left. One guy says "goin rite", everyone assumes he'll guard the probes. Instead he proceeds to completely ignore them, and tries to take on the far (?!) conduit by himself, cube and all. After he gets blowed up and obviously lets the probes through, he calls everyone "noobz" for not helping him and rage-quits.
Unfortunately two others got discouraged and also left. Myself and one other guy stuck around for a bit more, hoping some more random people will join, but nobody ever did
Suckiest 20 minutes in game.
You very well might have screwed the mission if you blew a cube and the others still had gens running and Neg'vars started spawning - were you keeping track of the status of the other 4 people and the status of the other cubes?
Do you pug cure elite a lot? If a cube is popped and the other 2 cubes spawn Neg'vars and raptors - half the time 5 people defending will FAIL!
This is a common thing in CSN. For whatever reason 4 of the team ships will think they need to protect the Kang. IF all 4 had any DPS at all they would be able to protect the Kang. But all to often they all have Rainbow/Technicolor beams and/or have their weapons set on stun and lose the optional.
In reality, it only takes ONE properly set up ship to protect the Kang. That ship should be able to keep anything from ever firing a shot at the Kang.
I stopped protecting the Kang long ago. In fact I don't even worry about going after any ships being spawned. I just kill nodes and cubes and fly on over to the next. Using this tactic I can usually clear out all the cubes in 9 minutes or less by myself.
If the others are helping out at the cubes like they should be, then I'll help kill the spawns, otherwise NO WAY. If we lose because 4 ships setting at the Kang can't protect it then so be it.
Most Kang defenders on pugs like to sit at the kang and only engage when the enemy starts shooting at the kang. And they are usually grouped up. (read below for more)
I have two words that explain exactly why this is the case. Those morons defending the kang with more than one person are usually grouped up. The two words that explain exactly why they will fail: Isometric Charge. Need more be said.
Heres a big 'If'
IF the people of the team have realistic DPS and otherwise well set up ships;
AND
IF the people know how to properly run a CSN or CSE;
THEN the ship which is supposed to be protecting the Kang should never have to fire a shot unless he too KNOWS what he's supposed to be doing and flys into the cubes as the Borg are spawning and kills them as they spawn.
And IF the people at the cubes know what they are doing then they too should be helping kill the spawns.
And still, nothing should ever get close enough to the Kang to fire a shot.
BUT this is something you'll never see in a PuG filled with Farmers, Rainbow/Technicolor Weapons, Noobes, Skittles, and all around Clowns.
It's a sad day indeed when the NPCs have more respect from you than the other players (which sadly enough is usually the case with me XD).