This one dude went hopping into the first IGE room, as if that could make him any less of a target? I could literally see the look on the Borg's faces as they all open fire on hop-along-cassidy.
He was vaporized before his feet touched the ground. The crumpled corpse in mid-air was enough to force me to spend the rest of the match trying to contain my laughter...
It was epic. The hopping - that got worst. First hop - straight into the lava.
Yesterday I played 6 Khitomer STF elite (ground and space). Because I wanted getting "Quadra Sigma Superior Service Medal" accolade (Complete Khitomer Accord - Ground or Khitomer Accord - Space 50 times).
All of khitomer I played one or two people left at the final part. 4 Khitomer STF, one poeple left before the middle part and we didn't get the optional. 2 khitomer ground STF we gave up because 2 people left and we were not enough to kill the node. For all of Khitomer STf (space or ground), there was weird people. The first I played. At the final part we were 4 but there was a guy who played without any gear nor kit neither. He just used martial art. It was like we were 3 because he wasn't useful. As you can guess we must give up. In another STF I played. One guy said he will fight the probe. We failed the STF because when we realized he is incompetent, it was too late. Another STF, one guy didn't want follow the team. He made everyone mad and after he left. 1 minute later someone was tired and left. We gave up.
Yesterday was my worst day for STF.:mad:
alright here is one marking a vet as a problem. we get into the lobby for CSE. He starts ordering what was going to happen, take out probes, right to left, then cubes left to right and he would sit on the Kang.
Game starts and for some reason the group foes left and starts hitting the probes, he has a **** fit because the group went left and not right. Never did he realize his plan could work either direction. Then he spent the whole time yelling it was taking too long and why were we not going quicker, mind you he never left 1km away from the Kang to maybe help out with knocking down some probes between BOP. Actually I have never seen someone type so much in a STF as he did.
It was won, but no optional because of timer. Course he raged on that. But to be honest I am over worrying about optional, the loot is generally exchange fodder anymore, tech is what I need.
I think I played the worst STF I ever played.
4 guys took the probe and they gave me the cube. After a while we failed the STF because 10 probes passed out...
This is a great thread. I love reading these stories and seeing that we have all had the same experiences. It's good that everyone can look back and laugh, at least for the most part. Players not responding in chat and doing their own thing are terrible, as are the skittle boats, but I think the rage player is the absolute worst. I find it very distasteful when a player uses foul language and blames his whole team for a poor performance, even though sometimes they are correct.
I, like many others here, shied away from the ground STF's. I did around 200 space missions before I even tried ground combat. I read all I could before attempting any ground mission and after I was comfortable with normal I moved on to elite. I saw how much team work was required in ground and was very uneasy about elite. I was surprised that most of the PUG groups I was involved in would regularly get the option and breeze through the missions. Maybe I have been lucky or it is just my imagination, but ground elite STF seems to attract a more polished player.
All of this said I had my worst STF experience on an elite ground mission. I was playing Khitomer Accord ground, which is the easiest ground in my opinion. Everything started out okay, we made our way down the first two levels of caves. It was obvious that the team lacked in firepower and the option would probably not be obtainable, but everything was still going ok. Right off the bat we had a rage player calling everyone noobs, I just ignored him and didn't see any real problems.
At the top of the ramp that leads down to the Borg boss room everything fell apart. We cleared out the entrance and when I finished and looked around only 2 of us were standing there at the top of the ramp. We waited and waited and I even asked where everyone was and got no reply. The rage player was flying off the handle, but I wasn't even sure where he was. I checked the map and saw that 2 players were making their way up the opposite side of the cave levels clearing out all the borg and obviously having a hard go. The player I was waiting with than opened fire at the borg on the ramp. No problem, me and him clear them out. This brought the rage player to a whole new level. He was upset we didn't just jump down and for go fighting them, not a big deal in my eyes, but he was losing it big time.
The name calling continued and was ignored by all. After we cleared out the top of the ramp the player I was with back tracked, presumably to try and retrieve the two lost players. At the bottom of the ramp the rage player was just waiting the whole time. He finally got tired of waiting with me and ran in and started the timer on the nodes. I than followed and we started clearing out the entrance to the node room. After he aggroed all the borg he ran back to the entrance and left me to die and respawn. He than started in on me with the name calling and rage. I finally had enough and me and him had a good back and forth. After a few minutes of pointless name calling I noticed most of the team had quit and was replaced by some unlucky new players. He continued to rage and even the new players that joined ended up quitting. It was pointless and I left as well.
We never even made it into the node room. I was amazed that 2 players, that obviously never played the mission before, would attempt an elite and not even follow the lead of the group, but I was absolutely livid at the behavior of this rage clown. Probably the first time I was really upset playing STO. The only good I took away from it was now whenever I see someone being a loudmouth I can say, "at least they aren't as bad as that guy from Khitomer ground". :cool:
My very best run was finishing Cure in 8min. 45 sec.
I've been looking for that group ever since.
My worst/ Well, there is the time that the group I was with on Cure failed the run in 3 minutes because no one was watching the Kang. They would fly right past it, so I had to constantly break off from any of the Spheres and try to stop all the waves of BoPs. That was so much fun.
Then was KA were that last 4 3 minutes while the two morons in the group decided to constantly fire at the gate. Not once did they realize that NOTHING WAS HAPPENING TO THE DAMN GATE! ten spheres got through in record time, and I stopped playing STFs until recently. That really ticked me off.
So, I am for a fleet dump button, instead of having to eat an hour's worth of time because some clown/s don't know or don't want to learn what to do.
I am a PUG supporter and an avid mentor for those new to STFs but that being said I could share one or two 'interesting' experiences as well.
There was once in Cure where I played Kang Guardian because the rest of the team flew off happily to attack the first shipyard and cube.
My flak cruiser made mincemeat out of assimilated BoPs and raptors while the 4 of them did their thing. Or, I thought they did. They looked quite coordinated and were flying in tight formation, so it was a premade team with voice comms.
Halfway through destroying the ping pong balls below the cube, the other ships decided to 'help' defend the Kang even though it was under no danger at all, being covered by a satellite turret and full time Extend Shields III from me.
Suddenly, the roles reverse as the entire team inexplicably abandoned their attack on the shipyard to 'help' me protect the Kang for whatever unknown reason.
I soloed the first two shipyards blowing up the half-damaged first cube and steadily demolishing the middle shipyard when I noticed the four ships guarding the Kang were facing severe problems.
Instead of using "CEC" style coordination to focus fire, each individual ship in the group engaged a single Raptor and that created one heck of a huge drawn out battle without actually destroying anything. In fact, the Raptors were having an easy time blowing them up!
As I detonated the second Cube and a pair of Raptors with my cannons I noticed none of the other 4 ships bothered to heal the Kang from stray enemy fire, thereby failing the optional.
I also had to mop up all the Raptors and the Negh'Vars now closing in on the Kang, and managed to repair the Kang just in time before it blew up. I wonder what the other four were actually doing, and what weapons they had on board ship. They were producing so little DPS I suspect they were using standard Mark 8s.
For the third shipyard the rest of the team FINALLY knew to stick close to me so I can extend shields and engineering team, and they properly focused fire on individual targets I designated in turn, rapidly destroying the last cube.
While the team showed poor performance by virtue of some sort of attention-span issue during the first cube assault, they did mesh well together and finally did know how to synchronize fire on individual targets to destroy them rapidly, so I wasn't ****ed at all but wished them the best on their next STF run.
Oh just about every other one I join now. I'm actually in one of those now. I'm not sure what the timer is at but it's well past 15 mins and only one cube is down. I tabbed out about 8 mins in when all three were still very much alive. /sigh
My AFK-encounter adventure. 1 man down = rest of us have higher workload, and have to deal with low DPS teammates to boot.
Cure Normal (not even elite lol)
1 AFKer, 2 low DPS ships, 1 BortaS and 1 cruiser (me). Only the BortaS and I appeared to contribute useful DPS, the rest were decoys
Everyone flew off to attack the shipyard immediately without a second thought. Thankfully I look before flying (good driving habit: must check blindspots!!) and sat at the Kang easily protecting it from any threats.
By about 5 minutes there was obvious something was wrong: the shipyards were being taken VERY slowly and only the BortaS on the team was actually working on demolishing the cubes and the nanite generators.
The 2 other active ships were struggling to fight off Raptors and doing very poorly at that, their BARCAP was more like a paper thin net and 100% of the Raptors actually got to firing range of the Kang. I would probably be steamrollered but thankfully I had tractor repulsors and continuous "Battlestar Pegasus" cannon spam active and easily destroyed everything.
The BortaS personally destroyed the first and I helped with the second cube and STILL within optional time limit. Then we had a little legal battle right there on the battlefield when things were stlll exploding:
1. BortaS complains no one is assaulting the cubes
2. One of the other teammates complained someone was AFK
3. I remarked quite sarcastically I don't notice - too busy with Kang
4. Someone else mentioned "Do you see player X firing?"
5. I reply to 1) saying that in an earlier match I personally destroyed all the cubes while everyone else was protecting the Kang!
We exchanged lots of lols the rest of the way saying it is our 'honourable duty' to pick up where the PUGs left off
My AFK-encounter adventure. 1 man down = rest of us have higher workload, and have to deal with low DPS teammates to boot.
Cure Normal (not even elite lol)
1 AFKer, 2 low DPS ships, 1 BortaS and 1 cruiser (me). Only the BortaS and I appeared to contribute useful DPS, the rest were decoys
Everyone flew off to attack the shipyard immediately without a second thought. Thankfully I look before flying (good driving habit: must check blindspots!!) and sat at the Kang easily protecting it from any threats.
By about 5 minutes there was obvious something was wrong: the shipyards were being taken VERY slowly and only the BortaS on the team was actually working on demolishing the cubes and the nanite generators.
The 2 other active ships were struggling to fight off Raptors and doing very poorly at that, their BARCAP was more like a paper thin net and 100% of the Raptors actually got to firing range of the Kang. I would probably be steamrollered but thankfully I had tractor repulsors and continuous "Battlestar Pegasus" cannon spam active and easily destroyed everything.
The BortaS personally destroyed the first and I helped with the second cube and STILL within optional time limit. Then we had a little legal battle right there on the battlefield when things were stlll exploding:
1. BortaS complains no one is assaulting the cubes
2. One of the other teammates complained someone was AFK
3. I remarked quite sarcastically I don't notice - too busy with Kang
4. Someone else mentioned "Do you see player X firing?"
5. I reply to 1) saying that in an earlier match I personally destroyed all the cubes while everyone else was protecting the Kang!
We exchanged lots of lols the rest of the way saying it is our 'honourable duty' to pick up where the PUGs left off
Thats almost as bad as trying to fly me through with old clunker and my peanut shells and duct tape keyboard. You certainly have the luck don't you?
my worst was back when prototype oddies came out. i was on a team of 5 tacs i fly a bop the rest flew oddies. ka space elite i had 2 was left to solo all transformers and generators and both gates cuz they said they had 2 fight probes first took me about an hour cuz of my lack of heals
Had a pretty lousy time earlier today, during a Mirror 'event'.
Started okay - I was using my second character, a Lt-Commander (Tac) flying a Saber class. Six other players (that I could see) also present.
Took a little while to get to the Stadi, as didn't appear that all of the ships that warped in were participating. By the time the Stadi appeared the only two ships still fighting were an Exeter class and my ship. After a prolonged fight, and a fair number of respawns, we got the Stadi down to about 45%, and then Exeter class got blasted by the Stadi's spinal phaser of doom and didn't respawn. My "where did everyone go" went ignored and needless to say, it became pretty obvious that my Saber class wasn't much of a threat to the Stadi one-on-one, and after a while the Stadi literally decided I wasn't worth the effort, and flew back to hover above the starbase.
First was a KA space Elite PUG. We drop the cube no problem, a guy calls that he's gonna cover probes from the left. I'm moving to the left with another teammate and since we're both faster we take out the first two probes, give him time to set up right?
The dude loses his ****!
"Oh I guess I'm not covering the probes then! I ****ing called left noobs!"
My reply "We were going left to start our job, dropped the probes ont he way, feel free to keep up on them."
After that I just get on with working on the generators and the first cube for the left.
As the cube is about to go, mr. personality CAPS over comms "PROBES ON THE LEFT!!" I pan around and sure enough, he took off to the right side.
I book it to the probes with the other layer on my side and we drop the probes with a few seconds to spare.
I ask "I thought you had left?"
THe reply, "You took my kills"
I'm annoyed at this point so I come back with "SO you decide to punk out and not tell anyone you're not watching left? WTH man if you're going to call a side, stick with it."
He starts going off on how I'm a noob and that Silvers shouldn't be allowed in Elite runs and various other TRIBBLE.
Ultimately we managed to get the bonus, we popped the last probe with 3 seconds left. Killed Donatra took our rewards and left.
THe whole time the idjit was apparently blasting me over comms, I'm only aware of this because one of the other players mentioned it as I had put the nit on ignore after our last exchange.
I did find it very satisfying that the death count was.
Me: 2
Him: 6
He was in an Ody, I was in a Tectical Escort Retrofit.
Not only was I doing WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY more DPS than him (Natch for a properly equipped Defiant) but I was TAKING more damage AND surviving.
Yes, I'm F2P, doesn't mean I haven't earned my place at the Elite run table. I know my job, I do it well.
Point me at what you want dead and it's dead. DOn't Punk out and throw a damn fit because I "Took your kills" I guarantee that there will be more probes.
The second was Infected space Elite.
Four of us bust our butts, first side goes down, we clear the swarm and head for the second side, I tend to go wide so I can avoid the gate attacks, cloak and get set up for the next side, as I'm heading out I see a player sitting at the spawn point.
I hail and mention that it would go faster if he helped. No reply.
I roll into the cube attack and we work down the right side, I'll toss off the occasional "Hey man we're not exactly having a picnic over here."
No reply.
Again, we manage to get the bonus and sure enough as soon as the need/greed/pass comes up our AFK friend NEEDS on everything swoops in and grabs his reward then busts out.
I'm ****ed at this point and in comm I say "Are you &%$@ing Kidding me?" everyone else is throwing out variations on "What the hell, did he just..."
I leave the map and spend the next fifteen minutes hitting every sector and warning everyone about the leech.
I finally make it to ESD and fire off the same message receiving various PM's thanking me about the heads up on him and asking me if i was serious.
ONE of the replies was him.
"I was AFK I'm not a leech! I went AFK before the accept message popped up! Stop telling everyone I'm a leech."
I replied with "You were AFK and only came back the very second the Tactical cube went up, just in time to NEED on everything, take the drops and run? Bull"
"It's true! I'm not a leech!"
At that point I get another PM from someone else who says the guy I'm complaining about did the same thing on a run with him.
That's pretty bad. The Mirror Event is one of the easier fleet battles and is enjoyable with any ship class. It's pretty well balanced if pilots know to break up the enemy groups and manage aggro.
The most fun I've had with it are on a Tier II cruiser staying fast and sweeping through fore and aft torpedo arcs the entire way.
I'm ****ed at this point and in comm I say "Are you &%$@ing Kidding me?" everyone else is throwing out variations on "What the hell, did he just..."
I leave the map and spend the next fifteen minutes hitting every sector and warning everyone about the leech.
I finally make it to ESD and fire off the same message receiving various PM's thanking me about the heads up on him and asking me if i was serious.
ONE of the replies was him.
"I was AFK I'm not a leech! I went AFK before the accept message popped up! Stop telling everyone I'm a leech."
I replied with "You were AFK and only came back the very second the Tactical cube went up, just in time to NEED on everything, take the drops and run? Bull"
"It's true! I'm not a leech!"
At that point I get another PM from someone else who says the guy I'm complaining about did the same thing on a run with him.
Between these two I can't decide which is worse.
RE: Leeches.
I notice a handful who deliberately bring Tier I ships to Elite STFs and contribute nothing to the team.
At one point I spotted two of these Tier Is stopping their ships over the starbase during Infected mid-battle and exchanging small talk on Local.
The only intention to bring Tier Is to a DPS-crucial Elite map is so they can grab the loot bags and run away.
I justify that statement by observing that these Tier I ships come in heavily damaged, blow up a zillion times during battle and no repairs are ever made to them.
For the record I'm usually too busy saving the Optionals to bother about one AFKer or one Tier I that keeps exploding.
When two appear (from a team queue) and the rest of the group works their *** off to complete the map on their behalf, I find something's amiss.
Yesterday I played one. It was my worst about players behaviour. It was infected elite STF.
We started well. Cube and spheres were killed.
We took a place and everyone shoot the gen. And one was to cover us. Suddenly one guy decided not to follow the 10% rules. Spheres and nanites went out. A guy said : "good job noobs. Engaging cloack". And he stayed far away. The badass said. I don't like that. And he stayed far away too. We fought with sphere and nanites for a longtime.
Yesterday I played one. It was my worst about players behaviour. It was infected elite STF.
We started well. Cube and spheres were killed.
We took a place and everyone shoot the gen. And one was to cover us. Suddenly one guy decided not to follow the 10% rules. Spheres and nanites went out. A guy said : "good job noobs. Engaging cloack". And he stayed far away. The badass said. I don't like that. And he stayed far away too. We fought with sphere and nanites for a longtime.
For those kinds of situations where people deliberately sabotage the 10% rule, I have tractor beam repulsors and evasive maneuvers on standby.
I will do a suicide ramming attack to scatter the incoming 5 nanite spheres all over the other side of the map. I die in the process but the rest of the team always takes out the transformer in time without ruining the Optional.
The troll usually fights on properly after seeing his attempt at spoiling the mission doesn't work. He'll even get the usual extend shields and spare engineering team for me if he decides to conduct the next assault properly.
I am beyond dealing with saboteurs and free-loaders. I anticipate their presence always! Or try to. Sometimes you just can't compensate for incompetence like when 4 defend the Kang and no one demolishes probes in Cure Elite. Add in no repairs on the Kang and the mission inevitably fails.
I did a Cure Elite space run an hour or so ago that made me pretty ****ed
EVerybody comes in, we settle on a strategy to take out all probes instead of taking out cubes 1 by 1, and I further explain why this is a good idea versus the cube 1 by 1 method, they agreed
The match goes on, we take out 95% of the probes, and someone destroys a Cube early, but shouldn't be a hue deal since there was 1 probe left on one o fthe cubes... somehow the Kang is swarmed by Raptors and we lose the match
The person who questioned the strategy at the start went "SEE I TOLD YOU SO, THIS IS WHY WE SHOULD BLOW UP CUBES 1 BY !"
I wanted to shout back at them the choice of strategy wasn't the problem , it was bad coordination from team members... too many people were on 1 side of the map taknig out raptors but ignoring the other wave of raptors that swarmed the Kang
I bet this same person will go on thinking their stategy is right and insist upon it next time they do that match
I have done the take out all probes strategy to victory more than the other strategy which almost always fails unless the team is really really good and has huge DPS and fast
I did a Cure Elite space run an hour or so ago that made me pretty ****ed
EVerybody comes in, we settle on a strategy to take out all probes instead of taking out cubes 1 by 1, and I further explain why this is a good idea versus the cube 1 by 1 method, they agreed
The match goes on, we take out 95% of the probes, and someone destroys a Cube early, but shouldn't be a hue deal since there was 1 probe left on one o fthe cubes... somehow the Kang is swarmed by Raptors and we lose the match
The person who questioned the strategy at the start went "SEE I TOLD YOU SO, THIS IS WHY WE SHOULD BLOW UP CUBES 1 BY !"
I wanted to shout back at them the choice of strategy wasn't the problem , it was bad coordination from team members... too many people were on 1 side of the map taknig out raptors but ignoring the other wave of raptors that swarmed the Kang
I bet this same person will go on thinking their stategy is right and insist upon it next time they do that match
I have done the take out all probes strategy to victory more than the other strategy which almost always fails unless the team is really really good and has huge DPS and fast
Some people are so ignorant.
Sounds similiar to one I paricipated in earlier - certainly the timeframe is about right. I was in an Odyssey, not too far away from the Kang, trying to intercept Raptors that were making their way toward the Kang, but was unfortunately taken out by them (because I suck) and by the time I respawned the Kang had gone 'bang'.
I am a big Tac cruiser supporter in the fact that as a Tac if you build it right, you can shave some serious DPS and last long enough to throw a heal and be a meat shield if need be.
Even I refuse to fly an Odessey in a STF, tried it a few times with the tac version....and while it had a solid build....it just wasn't enough.....especially with every PUG I go into is cartin around with 4 oddys or 4 Borts....
You cant win a STF in solid time flying those.....let alone pull the optional.....so i dont do it with a Oddy, why everyone else seems to think theirs is the greatest thing since sliced cheese i have no idea.
Yet every STF space pug I've been in where there were at least 3 oddys......we didnt get the optional, and in cure half the time the Kang was blown into the fabric of my bridges capts chair.
I will admit at one time I really didnt know what the hell i was doin either...its a learning curve....but when your in Cure normal and I say 4 gang*ang the cube and 1 on the kang.....if kang needs help just call and one run over leaving 3 on the cube.......
Sounds like simple instructions right? Remember this is normal and on normal I usually finish the optional with a halfway decent team with 4 minutes to spare.......BUT NOOOOO......we get a john rambo takin on a whole other side by himself, another is flying in circles over the kang waiting for the incoming BoPs to get within weps range, and you have what looks like 2 others shooting directly at the cube with all the nodes still kickin.
If that isnt enough, lately Ive been running into the farmers....one or two always hit need, meaning now I gotta hit need just for a chance to get anything whatsoever..........sigh.......I thought people weren't that obtuse in STO.....oh what has cryptic brought with this shotgun pete style MMO?
I have yet to run into any raindow boats...glad i havent....and while I remain calm and kind on the chat.....I have accused loudmouthed heathens of suffering from cranium anal TRIBBLE retitus impaction.
I may not know everything in a STF..and I dont claim to.....but i give it an honest effort PuG or no PuG.
Kinda wish others would do the same...you can lead a horse to water, but you cant get him to stop drinking while he's shooting at the wrong target.
I am a big Tac cruiser supporter in the fact that as a Tac if you build it right, you can shave some serious DPS and last long enough to throw a heal and be a meat shield if need be.
Even I refuse to fly an Odessey in a STF, tried it a few times with the tac version....and while it had a solid build....it just wasn't enough.....especially with every PUG I go into is cartin around with 4 oddys or 4 Borts....
You cant win a STF in solid time flying those.....let alone pull the optional.....so i dont do it with a Oddy, why everyone else seems to think theirs is the greatest thing since sliced cheese i have no idea.
Yet every STF space pug I've been in where there were at least 3 oddys......we didnt get the optional, and in cure half the time the Kang was blown into the fabric of my bridges capts chair.
I will admit at one time I really didnt know what the hell i was doin either...its a learning curve....but when your in Cure normal and I say 4 gang*ang the cube and 1 on the kang.....if kang needs help just call and one run over leaving 3 on the cube.......
Sounds like simple instructions right? Remember this is normal and on normal I usually finish the optional with a halfway decent team with 4 minutes to spare.......BUT NOOOOO......we get a john rambo takin on a whole other side by himself, another is flying in circles over the kang waiting for the incoming BoPs to get within weps range, and you have what looks like 2 others shooting directly at the cube with all the nodes still kickin.
If that isnt enough, lately Ive been running into the farmers....one or two always hit need, meaning now I gotta hit need just for a chance to get anything whatsoever..........sigh.......I thought people weren't that obtuse in STO.....oh what has cryptic brought with this shotgun pete style MMO?
I have yet to run into any raindow boats...glad i havent....and while I remain calm and kind on the chat.....I have accused loudmouthed heathens of suffering from cranium anal TRIBBLE retitus impaction.
I may not know everything in a STF..and I dont claim to.....but i give it an honest effort PuG or no PuG.
Kinda wish others would do the same...you can lead a horse to water, but you cant get him to stop drinking while he's shooting at the wrong target.
Tricky - I have a science toon, and the Science Oddy seemed like the best choice. I do like it, a lot, but lets face it - not much to choose from in terms of Science ships at T5.
The repulsorNoob on KASE. The first offense was when this dude on a Voyager accidentaly repulsed a sphere that was tractoring him. Unfortunately, two probes got caught in the blast right in front of him and they got a friendly push closer to the vortex.
Second offense was in the battle with Donatra. She had 75% hull and decloaked with her unshielded side right in front of me. I'm flying a tac with all my buffs champing at the bit and ready to kill, and this fool activates his repulsor, condemning me and probably the rest of the team right into Donatra's kill cone. That was, by far, the dumbest thing I've ever seen on a virtual battlefield.
I was in an ISE run, as usual, hunting for my last piece of Mk XII gear.
For context, keep in mind that my Tac Galor isn't exactly a healer. I have just enough to scrub myself clean of debuffs and plasma fire, with some personal hull and shield healing. That's it. Most of the time it's all about the guns. When a cooldown on my teams comes up, I'm mostly using Tac Team to give my guns an extra boost. When I'm fighting on elite, I'm usually having a hard enough time keeping myself alive, much less helping anyone else out.
But whenever I have a spare moment to throw an Eng or Sci team to a wounded teammate, a hazard emitter to someone on fire, or a tac team to our nearest escort... I do so. I may come first, but I'm not wasteful.
So after taking down the first three ships on ISE, I notice our team's Odyssey (not a Technicolour Dreamship though) was on fire and at 10% hull, I dropped an Eng Team, a Aux To Structural and a Hazard Emitter on him.
To this the ship's captain says...
"That's the first time anyone's done that for me in an STF before! Thanks!"
I found that really odd. One, I'm not known as a healer and my ship is mostly made to be self sufficient.
But it wasn't surprising. Healers are as rare as diamonds in STF's. It's sad but true.
Out of boredom i qued for CGN since no of my friends were online and elitestf channel was quiet. I ended up with 4 guys with swords, discussing which sword is the best and linking them in chat. I tried to explan that swords are bad in this stage of mission, but they were like...what do u know! My father is a trekkie, thus, I know everything! Swords rules! Somehow with great trouble guiding them trough chat we managed to fight that second transmitter group. At third, of course we didnt had a chance. They refused to remove swords. So, i dont know if this was worst or most fun stf run i have ever had. Cheers!
P.S. No swrods in STFS! ^^
A few nights ago. Pugging Infected Elite Space. I seem to be the only one who knows about the 10 percent strategy, or at least the only one using it. Gen gets blown early and two guys rush the spheres as they're coming out of the gate. One guy is firing at the gate and one is just sitting there. The one firing at the gate starts telling all of us how much we suck. One flying at the spheres starts name calling back at him. I told them if they didn't stfu I was going to leave the match... they didn't... I did. ( Would like to add that leaving ISE when it'll take 45 minutes anyway is actually a viable option if you're 27 years old and have a life outside of STO )
Out of boredom i qued for CGN since no of my friends were online and elitestf channel was quiet. I ended up with 4 guys with swords, discussing which sword is the best and linking them in chat. I tried to explan that swords are bad in this stage of mission, but they were like...what do u know! My father is a trekkie, thus, I know everything! Swords rules! Somehow with great trouble guiding them trough chat we managed to fight that second transmitter group. At third, of course we didnt had a chance. They refused to remove swords. So, i dont know if this was worst or most fun stf run i have ever had. Cheers!
P.S. No swrods in STFS! ^^
Actually Swords do come in handy when you're in a bind and re configuring your rifle is just not a feasible option. He and a friend even took out Captain Ogen with just our Bat'leths when he adapted to our rifles.
Actually Swords do come in handy when you're in a bind and re configuring your rifle is just not a feasible option. He and a friend even took out Captain Ogen with just our Bat'leths when he adapted to our rifles.
I might try a ground run with Close Combat Specialist someday then.
Comments
He was vaporized before his feet touched the ground. The crumpled corpse in mid-air was enough to force me to spend the rest of the match trying to contain my laughter...
It was epic. The hopping - that got worst. First hop - straight into the lava.
All of khitomer I played one or two people left at the final part. 4 Khitomer STF, one poeple left before the middle part and we didn't get the optional. 2 khitomer ground STF we gave up because 2 people left and we were not enough to kill the node. For all of Khitomer STf (space or ground), there was weird people. The first I played. At the final part we were 4 but there was a guy who played without any gear nor kit neither. He just used martial art. It was like we were 3 because he wasn't useful. As you can guess we must give up. In another STF I played. One guy said he will fight the probe. We failed the STF because when we realized he is incompetent, it was too late. Another STF, one guy didn't want follow the team. He made everyone mad and after he left. 1 minute later someone was tired and left. We gave up.
Yesterday was my worst day for STF.:mad:
Game starts and for some reason the group foes left and starts hitting the probes, he has a **** fit because the group went left and not right. Never did he realize his plan could work either direction. Then he spent the whole time yelling it was taking too long and why were we not going quicker, mind you he never left 1km away from the Kang to maybe help out with knocking down some probes between BOP. Actually I have never seen someone type so much in a STF as he did.
It was won, but no optional because of timer. Course he raged on that. But to be honest I am over worrying about optional, the loot is generally exchange fodder anymore, tech is what I need.
4 guys took the probe and they gave me the cube. After a while we failed the STF because 10 probes passed out...
I, like many others here, shied away from the ground STF's. I did around 200 space missions before I even tried ground combat. I read all I could before attempting any ground mission and after I was comfortable with normal I moved on to elite. I saw how much team work was required in ground and was very uneasy about elite. I was surprised that most of the PUG groups I was involved in would regularly get the option and breeze through the missions. Maybe I have been lucky or it is just my imagination, but ground elite STF seems to attract a more polished player.
All of this said I had my worst STF experience on an elite ground mission. I was playing Khitomer Accord ground, which is the easiest ground in my opinion. Everything started out okay, we made our way down the first two levels of caves. It was obvious that the team lacked in firepower and the option would probably not be obtainable, but everything was still going ok. Right off the bat we had a rage player calling everyone noobs, I just ignored him and didn't see any real problems.
At the top of the ramp that leads down to the Borg boss room everything fell apart. We cleared out the entrance and when I finished and looked around only 2 of us were standing there at the top of the ramp. We waited and waited and I even asked where everyone was and got no reply. The rage player was flying off the handle, but I wasn't even sure where he was. I checked the map and saw that 2 players were making their way up the opposite side of the cave levels clearing out all the borg and obviously having a hard go. The player I was waiting with than opened fire at the borg on the ramp. No problem, me and him clear them out. This brought the rage player to a whole new level. He was upset we didn't just jump down and for go fighting them, not a big deal in my eyes, but he was losing it big time.
The name calling continued and was ignored by all. After we cleared out the top of the ramp the player I was with back tracked, presumably to try and retrieve the two lost players. At the bottom of the ramp the rage player was just waiting the whole time. He finally got tired of waiting with me and ran in and started the timer on the nodes. I than followed and we started clearing out the entrance to the node room. After he aggroed all the borg he ran back to the entrance and left me to die and respawn. He than started in on me with the name calling and rage. I finally had enough and me and him had a good back and forth. After a few minutes of pointless name calling I noticed most of the team had quit and was replaced by some unlucky new players. He continued to rage and even the new players that joined ended up quitting. It was pointless and I left as well.
We never even made it into the node room. I was amazed that 2 players, that obviously never played the mission before, would attempt an elite and not even follow the lead of the group, but I was absolutely livid at the behavior of this rage clown. Probably the first time I was really upset playing STO. The only good I took away from it was now whenever I see someone being a loudmouth I can say, "at least they aren't as bad as that guy from Khitomer ground". :cool:
I've been looking for that group ever since.
My worst/ Well, there is the time that the group I was with on Cure failed the run in 3 minutes because no one was watching the Kang. They would fly right past it, so I had to constantly break off from any of the Spheres and try to stop all the waves of BoPs. That was so much fun.
Then was KA were that last 4 3 minutes while the two morons in the group decided to constantly fire at the gate. Not once did they realize that NOTHING WAS HAPPENING TO THE DAMN GATE! ten spheres got through in record time, and I stopped playing STFs until recently. That really ticked me off.
So, I am for a fleet dump button, instead of having to eat an hour's worth of time because some clown/s don't know or don't want to learn what to do.
There was once in Cure where I played Kang Guardian because the rest of the team flew off happily to attack the first shipyard and cube.
My flak cruiser made mincemeat out of assimilated BoPs and raptors while the 4 of them did their thing. Or, I thought they did. They looked quite coordinated and were flying in tight formation, so it was a premade team with voice comms.
Halfway through destroying the ping pong balls below the cube, the other ships decided to 'help' defend the Kang even though it was under no danger at all, being covered by a satellite turret and full time Extend Shields III from me.
Suddenly, the roles reverse as the entire team inexplicably abandoned their attack on the shipyard to 'help' me protect the Kang for whatever unknown reason.
I soloed the first two shipyards blowing up the half-damaged first cube and steadily demolishing the middle shipyard when I noticed the four ships guarding the Kang were facing severe problems.
Instead of using "CEC" style coordination to focus fire, each individual ship in the group engaged a single Raptor and that created one heck of a huge drawn out battle without actually destroying anything. In fact, the Raptors were having an easy time blowing them up!
As I detonated the second Cube and a pair of Raptors with my cannons I noticed none of the other 4 ships bothered to heal the Kang from stray enemy fire, thereby failing the optional.
I also had to mop up all the Raptors and the Negh'Vars now closing in on the Kang, and managed to repair the Kang just in time before it blew up. I wonder what the other four were actually doing, and what weapons they had on board ship. They were producing so little DPS I suspect they were using standard Mark 8s.
For the third shipyard the rest of the team FINALLY knew to stick close to me so I can extend shields and engineering team, and they properly focused fire on individual targets I designated in turn, rapidly destroying the last cube.
While the team showed poor performance by virtue of some sort of attention-span issue during the first cube assault, they did mesh well together and finally did know how to synchronize fire on individual targets to destroy them rapidly, so I wasn't ****ed at all but wished them the best on their next STF run.
They preferred experiential learning, after all.
with the public team of course.
Each one of them failed, the last looked promising actually but failed nonetheless....
I'm playing cure elite alone because I only need the Mk XII engine.
I have got MACO Mk X full set as well as MACO Mk XI full set. For Mark XII I only need the engine left. But so far it's been very very frustating.
There i wss........
This time I wasprotecting the Kang.
No problems at all.
I fly up about 9k away from the oncoming borg and shoot them out of the sky.
Then I'd zip over 9k from the next and do it again.
No problems at all.
The other 4 are rainbow and skittling away at the cubes and nodes.
Then suddenly, out of the blue, All 4 of the other ships are parked next to the Kang doing NOTHING!
Everything was going fine before this.
I typed, GO KILL THE CUBES I GOT THE KANG.
They just set there.
So I go off and continue where they left off on the second cube.
And what happens???
Boom! No more Kang.
They let it die.
4 ships on the Kang and they couldn't protect it.
We would have won but they had to be noobe.
Oh Well...
So you were a contributing factor to this.
Cure Normal (not even elite lol)
1 AFKer, 2 low DPS ships, 1 BortaS and 1 cruiser (me). Only the BortaS and I appeared to contribute useful DPS, the rest were decoys
Everyone flew off to attack the shipyard immediately without a second thought. Thankfully I look before flying (good driving habit: must check blindspots!!) and sat at the Kang easily protecting it from any threats.
By about 5 minutes there was obvious something was wrong: the shipyards were being taken VERY slowly and only the BortaS on the team was actually working on demolishing the cubes and the nanite generators.
The 2 other active ships were struggling to fight off Raptors and doing very poorly at that, their BARCAP was more like a paper thin net and 100% of the Raptors actually got to firing range of the Kang. I would probably be steamrollered but thankfully I had tractor repulsors and continuous "Battlestar Pegasus" cannon spam active and easily destroyed everything.
The BortaS personally destroyed the first and I helped with the second cube and STILL within optional time limit. Then we had a little legal battle right there on the battlefield when things were stlll exploding:
1. BortaS complains no one is assaulting the cubes
2. One of the other teammates complained someone was AFK
3. I remarked quite sarcastically I don't notice - too busy with Kang
4. Someone else mentioned "Do you see player X firing?"
5. I reply to 1) saying that in an earlier match I personally destroyed all the cubes while everyone else was protecting the Kang!
We exchanged lots of lols the rest of the way saying it is our 'honourable duty' to pick up where the PUGs left off
Thats almost as bad as trying to fly me through with old clunker and my peanut shells and duct tape keyboard. You certainly have the luck don't you?
Started okay - I was using my second character, a Lt-Commander (Tac) flying a Saber class. Six other players (that I could see) also present.
Took a little while to get to the Stadi, as didn't appear that all of the ships that warped in were participating. By the time the Stadi appeared the only two ships still fighting were an Exeter class and my ship. After a prolonged fight, and a fair number of respawns, we got the Stadi down to about 45%, and then Exeter class got blasted by the Stadi's spinal phaser of doom and didn't respawn. My "where did everyone go" went ignored and needless to say, it became pretty obvious that my Saber class wasn't much of a threat to the Stadi one-on-one, and after a while the Stadi literally decided I wasn't worth the effort, and flew back to hover above the starbase.
All in all, rather disappointing.
First was a KA space Elite PUG. We drop the cube no problem, a guy calls that he's gonna cover probes from the left. I'm moving to the left with another teammate and since we're both faster we take out the first two probes, give him time to set up right?
The dude loses his ****!
"Oh I guess I'm not covering the probes then! I ****ing called left noobs!"
My reply "We were going left to start our job, dropped the probes ont he way, feel free to keep up on them."
After that I just get on with working on the generators and the first cube for the left.
As the cube is about to go, mr. personality CAPS over comms "PROBES ON THE LEFT!!" I pan around and sure enough, he took off to the right side.
I book it to the probes with the other layer on my side and we drop the probes with a few seconds to spare.
I ask "I thought you had left?"
THe reply, "You took my kills"
I'm annoyed at this point so I come back with "SO you decide to punk out and not tell anyone you're not watching left? WTH man if you're going to call a side, stick with it."
He starts going off on how I'm a noob and that Silvers shouldn't be allowed in Elite runs and various other TRIBBLE.
Ultimately we managed to get the bonus, we popped the last probe with 3 seconds left. Killed Donatra took our rewards and left.
THe whole time the idjit was apparently blasting me over comms, I'm only aware of this because one of the other players mentioned it as I had put the nit on ignore after our last exchange.
I did find it very satisfying that the death count was.
Me: 2
Him: 6
He was in an Ody, I was in a Tectical Escort Retrofit.
Not only was I doing WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY more DPS than him (Natch for a properly equipped Defiant) but I was TAKING more damage AND surviving.
Yes, I'm F2P, doesn't mean I haven't earned my place at the Elite run table. I know my job, I do it well.
Point me at what you want dead and it's dead. DOn't Punk out and throw a damn fit because I "Took your kills" I guarantee that there will be more probes.
The second was Infected space Elite.
Four of us bust our butts, first side goes down, we clear the swarm and head for the second side, I tend to go wide so I can avoid the gate attacks, cloak and get set up for the next side, as I'm heading out I see a player sitting at the spawn point.
I hail and mention that it would go faster if he helped. No reply.
I roll into the cube attack and we work down the right side, I'll toss off the occasional "Hey man we're not exactly having a picnic over here."
No reply.
Again, we manage to get the bonus and sure enough as soon as the need/greed/pass comes up our AFK friend NEEDS on everything swoops in and grabs his reward then busts out.
I'm ****ed at this point and in comm I say "Are you &%$@ing Kidding me?" everyone else is throwing out variations on "What the hell, did he just..."
I leave the map and spend the next fifteen minutes hitting every sector and warning everyone about the leech.
I finally make it to ESD and fire off the same message receiving various PM's thanking me about the heads up on him and asking me if i was serious.
ONE of the replies was him.
"I was AFK I'm not a leech! I went AFK before the accept message popped up! Stop telling everyone I'm a leech."
I replied with "You were AFK and only came back the very second the Tactical cube went up, just in time to NEED on everything, take the drops and run? Bull"
"It's true! I'm not a leech!"
At that point I get another PM from someone else who says the guy I'm complaining about did the same thing on a run with him.
Between these two I can't decide which is worse.
That's pretty bad. The Mirror Event is one of the easier fleet battles and is enjoyable with any ship class. It's pretty well balanced if pilots know to break up the enemy groups and manage aggro.
The most fun I've had with it are on a Tier II cruiser staying fast and sweeping through fore and aft torpedo arcs the entire way.
RE: Leeches.
I notice a handful who deliberately bring Tier I ships to Elite STFs and contribute nothing to the team.
At one point I spotted two of these Tier Is stopping their ships over the starbase during Infected mid-battle and exchanging small talk on Local.
The only intention to bring Tier Is to a DPS-crucial Elite map is so they can grab the loot bags and run away.
I justify that statement by observing that these Tier I ships come in heavily damaged, blow up a zillion times during battle and no repairs are ever made to them.
For the record I'm usually too busy saving the Optionals to bother about one AFKer or one Tier I that keeps exploding.
When two appear (from a team queue) and the rest of the group works their *** off to complete the map on their behalf, I find something's amiss.
We started well. Cube and spheres were killed.
We took a place and everyone shoot the gen. And one was to cover us. Suddenly one guy decided not to follow the 10% rules. Spheres and nanites went out. A guy said : "good job noobs. Engaging cloack". And he stayed far away. The badass said. I don't like that. And he stayed far away too. We fought with sphere and nanites for a longtime.
For those kinds of situations where people deliberately sabotage the 10% rule, I have tractor beam repulsors and evasive maneuvers on standby.
I will do a suicide ramming attack to scatter the incoming 5 nanite spheres all over the other side of the map. I die in the process but the rest of the team always takes out the transformer in time without ruining the Optional.
The troll usually fights on properly after seeing his attempt at spoiling the mission doesn't work. He'll even get the usual extend shields and spare engineering team for me if he decides to conduct the next assault properly.
I am beyond dealing with saboteurs and free-loaders. I anticipate their presence always! Or try to. Sometimes you just can't compensate for incompetence like when 4 defend the Kang and no one demolishes probes in Cure Elite. Add in no repairs on the Kang and the mission inevitably fails.
EVerybody comes in, we settle on a strategy to take out all probes instead of taking out cubes 1 by 1, and I further explain why this is a good idea versus the cube 1 by 1 method, they agreed
The match goes on, we take out 95% of the probes, and someone destroys a Cube early, but shouldn't be a hue deal since there was 1 probe left on one o fthe cubes... somehow the Kang is swarmed by Raptors and we lose the match
The person who questioned the strategy at the start went "SEE I TOLD YOU SO, THIS IS WHY WE SHOULD BLOW UP CUBES 1 BY !"
I wanted to shout back at them the choice of strategy wasn't the problem , it was bad coordination from team members... too many people were on 1 side of the map taknig out raptors but ignoring the other wave of raptors that swarmed the Kang
I bet this same person will go on thinking their stategy is right and insist upon it next time they do that match
I have done the take out all probes strategy to victory more than the other strategy which almost always fails unless the team is really really good and has huge DPS and fast
Some people are so ignorant.
Even I refuse to fly an Odessey in a STF, tried it a few times with the tac version....and while it had a solid build....it just wasn't enough.....especially with every PUG I go into is cartin around with 4 oddys or 4 Borts....
You cant win a STF in solid time flying those.....let alone pull the optional.....so i dont do it with a Oddy, why everyone else seems to think theirs is the greatest thing since sliced cheese i have no idea.
Yet every STF space pug I've been in where there were at least 3 oddys......we didnt get the optional, and in cure half the time the Kang was blown into the fabric of my bridges capts chair.
I will admit at one time I really didnt know what the hell i was doin either...its a learning curve....but when your in Cure normal and I say 4 gang*ang the cube and 1 on the kang.....if kang needs help just call and one run over leaving 3 on the cube.......
Sounds like simple instructions right? Remember this is normal and on normal I usually finish the optional with a halfway decent team with 4 minutes to spare.......BUT NOOOOO......we get a john rambo takin on a whole other side by himself, another is flying in circles over the kang waiting for the incoming BoPs to get within weps range, and you have what looks like 2 others shooting directly at the cube with all the nodes still kickin.
If that isnt enough, lately Ive been running into the farmers....one or two always hit need, meaning now I gotta hit need just for a chance to get anything whatsoever..........sigh.......I thought people weren't that obtuse in STO.....oh what has cryptic brought with this shotgun pete style MMO?
I have yet to run into any raindow boats...glad i havent....and while I remain calm and kind on the chat.....I have accused loudmouthed heathens of suffering from cranium anal TRIBBLE retitus impaction.
I may not know everything in a STF..and I dont claim to.....but i give it an honest effort PuG or no PuG.
Kinda wish others would do the same...you can lead a horse to water, but you cant get him to stop drinking while he's shooting at the wrong target.
Tricky - I have a science toon, and the Science Oddy seemed like the best choice. I do like it, a lot, but lets face it - not much to choose from in terms of Science ships at T5.
Second offense was in the battle with Donatra. She had 75% hull and decloaked with her unshielded side right in front of me. I'm flying a tac with all my buffs champing at the bit and ready to kill, and this fool activates his repulsor, condemning me and probably the rest of the team right into Donatra's kill cone. That was, by far, the dumbest thing I've ever seen on a virtual battlefield.
I was in an ISE run, as usual, hunting for my last piece of Mk XII gear.
For context, keep in mind that my Tac Galor isn't exactly a healer. I have just enough to scrub myself clean of debuffs and plasma fire, with some personal hull and shield healing. That's it. Most of the time it's all about the guns. When a cooldown on my teams comes up, I'm mostly using Tac Team to give my guns an extra boost. When I'm fighting on elite, I'm usually having a hard enough time keeping myself alive, much less helping anyone else out.
But whenever I have a spare moment to throw an Eng or Sci team to a wounded teammate, a hazard emitter to someone on fire, or a tac team to our nearest escort... I do so. I may come first, but I'm not wasteful.
So after taking down the first three ships on ISE, I notice our team's Odyssey (not a Technicolour Dreamship though) was on fire and at 10% hull, I dropped an Eng Team, a Aux To Structural and a Hazard Emitter on him.
To this the ship's captain says...
"That's the first time anyone's done that for me in an STF before! Thanks!"
I found that really odd. One, I'm not known as a healer and my ship is mostly made to be self sufficient.
But it wasn't surprising. Healers are as rare as diamonds in STF's. It's sad but true.
P.S. No swrods in STFS! ^^
I might try a ground run with Close Combat Specialist someday then.
Assimilate this! *roundhouse kick*