Yes your ENEMIES are going to build you wheelchair ramps :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
Hi there,
I am glad we agree. Let's make this more of a habit in the future. For example, we will now also agree that wheelchairs should be included in the game as character options. Agreeing is much more relaxing. Thank you for doing so.
Ya.... purposely going off on a tangent to dismiss the valid point. He didn't get 6 feet in the air. Hell , his head barely cleared the lip of the ramp. He also had the aid of a ramp. Are you telling me a magical ramp should appear whenever a toon in a wheelchair would like to jump?
My captain cant jump 6 feet in the air.
No, I deally, for ground missions I'd like to be able to use my Boff's.
What about a hover wheelchair? Would that not work?
Now you got my attention using existing Trek Anti-Grav tech this would make sense. And could be used for other cool things beyond just the wheelchair concept.
I've gotten used to the disabled being looked down on throughout life - I'm disabled, have been since birth. It takes me a lot of effort to be able to use my hands and I'm in constant pain all the time, but I keep doing my best and I pretty much refuse to let my disability fully limit me from doing anything, especailly things I enjoy doing like video games, writing - well somewhat like doing that - reading and managing the Transformers collection.
When I created my character of Reina Beaumont I had her living with a disability that's forced on her, even though it might not seem like a disability, though for her to be long lived and suffer the deaths of family and friends is very damaging for her. I also added additional aspects to her character and a determination to not have to live with the kind of disability she had before her long life was forced on her.
Those who aren't disabled however would never nor understand what life is like for those who are disabled. And that's generally why disability is never protrayd in video games since the main concept is that only those who aren't disabled can play video games, when it's a very narrow view of who can and can't play video games.
There are plenty of people who aren't disabled who don't play video games and are unable to, while there are those who are disabled who might like playing video games regardless of the additional effort they have to work with in order to do as well as they can.
Now you got my attention using existing Trek Anti-Grav tech this would make sense. And could be used for other cool things beyond just the wheelchair concept.
Aside from wheelchairs and whatnot. How about Actual Normal Human Glasses. I wear glasses. I think there should be a selection
1. Sun Glasses
2. Aviators
3. 3 different sizes of Black Rimmed hipster type
4. Loose metallic frame
5. Harry Potter style
6. Early 80's nerdy type
7. Kirk's Glasses from Mccoy.
For klingons:
1. X scraped eye.
2. Steampunk style glasses
3. Dragonball Z-ish Scouter
4. The headpiece sector block station workers used
5. Maybe even the selection I stated for the feds.
This goes without saying, if I could do something, anything right now to be able to walk i probably would.
But, not being able to walk, having people constantly tell me I couldnt do things, how i wouldnt be able to lead a normal life, has pushed me much harder than I would of been, had i been able to walk from birth. I am where I am today because of that determination to prove those people wrong.
So your character should suffer because you don't have the option to fix your legs? Please think of your character and let them get the operation. Just put in your bio that your captain couldn't walk, but due to them getting a robotic brace, they could lead a productive life saving the Federation from destruction or something like that.
What about a hover wheelchair? Would that not work?
You do realize that Pike, by the point he was in the Fancy Wheelchair, was no longer doing anything but barely surviving...
They didn't have the heart to take him off the Active Duty List... but he was barely functional as a Human Being... never mind as a StarFleet Captain/Admiral.
And the Wheelchair on DS-9 was only a TEMPORARY THING...
Till that character could either go back to her Home World or they could find a way to get her body accustomed to heavier gravity's.
(I find it kinda strange that she could barely sit up because of the heavier gravity, but her internal organs and heart were still able to function...???)
I've gotten used to the disabled being looked down on throughout life - I'm disabled, have been since birth. It takes me a lot of effort to be able to use my hands and I'm in constant pain all the time, but I keep doing my best and I pretty much refuse to let my disability fully limit me from doing anything, especailly things I enjoy doing like video games, writing - well somewhat like doing that - reading and managing the Transformers collection.
When I created my character of Reina Beaumont I had her living with a disability that's forced on her, even though it might not seem like a disability, though for her to be long lived and suffer the deaths of family and friends is very damaging for her. I also added additional aspects to her character and a determination to not have to live with the kind of disability she had before her long life was forced on her.
Those who aren't disabled however would never nor understand what life is like for those who are disabled. And that's generally why disability is never protrayd in video games since the main concept is that only those who aren't disabled can play video games, when it's a very narrow view of who can and can't play video games.
There are plenty of people who aren't disabled who don't play video games and are unable to, while there are those who are disabled who might like playing video games regardless of the additional effort they have to work with in order to do as well as they can.
While I have no difficulty in playing STO, I can certainly understand where you are comming from.
While I was only casually asking for wheelchairs, I would really really like to see something added along these lines. i can understand that it wont be tomorrow, but maybe just maybe it'll happen at some point.
After some of the replies in this thread I doubt that will change much.
This has nothing to do w/ you being in a wheelchair. if it wasn't for you, no one here would even know it, and this would be just a thread on the merits of a wheelchair in game. Again taking the victim stance. :mad:
You do realize that Pike, by the point he was in the Fancy Wheelchair, was no longer doing anything but barely surviving...
They didn't have the heart to take him off the Active Duty List... but he was barely functional as a Human Being... never mind as a StarFleet Captain/Admiral.
And the Wheelchair on DS-9 was only a TEMPORARY THING...
Till that character could either go back to her Home World or get accustomed to heavier gravity's.
Thats why the only idea I agreed with them on is the hover chair because it could open up some really interesting and exciting possibilities to the game as a whole
Aside from wheelchairs and whatnot. How about Actual Normal Human Glasses. I wear glasses. I think there should be a selection
1. Sun Glasses
2. Aviators
3. 3 different sizes of Black Rimmed hipster type
4. Loose metallic frame
5. Harry Potter style
6. Early 80's nerdy type
7. Kirk's Glasses from Mccoy.
For klingons:
1. X scraped eye.
2. Steampunk style glasses
3. Dragonball Z-ish Scouter
4. The headpiece sector block station workers used
5. Maybe even the selection I stated for the feds.
Yeah you could use these on Vulcan when you beam down to talk to Fleet mates or whatnot.
This has nothing to do w/ you being in a wheelchair. if it wasn't for you, no one here would even know it, and this would be just a thread on the merits of a wheelchair in game. Again taking the victim stance. :mad:
You have tried to discredit me again and again.
I just asked for wheel chairs, the discussion is moving along now, please stop trying to derail the thread and stay on topic.
I just asked for wheel chairs, the discussion is moving along now, please stop trying to derail the thread and stay on topic.
So Furque are you coming around to my sentiments that a "wheelchair" in STO would only work as a hover chair and that would be the best idea given that it would allow existing trek anti grav tech to be added easily along with your hover chair ???
I just asked for wheel chairs, the discussion is moving along now, please stop trying to derail the thread and stay on topic.
I am on topic. the thread is on wheelchairs, not your being in one. And yet again and again you use it. Your the one who told us your in a wheelchair and disabled, and now assume people are harping on you because you are. You discredit yourself.
So Furque are you coming around to my sentiments that a "wheelchair" in STO would only work as a hover chair and that would be the best idea given that it would allow existing trek anti grav tech to be added easily along with your hover chair ???
I certainly wouldnt be opposed to it, in fact I'd be more than welcomming to it
I've gotten used to the disabled being looked down on throughout life - I'm disabled, have been since birth. It takes me a lot of effort to be able to use my hands and I'm in constant pain all the time, but I keep doing my best and I pretty much refuse to let my disability fully limit me from doing anything, especailly things I enjoy doing like video games, writing - well somewhat like doing that - reading and managing the Transformers collection.
When I created my character of Reina Beaumont I had her living with a disability that's forced on her, even though it might not seem like a disability, though for her to be long lived and suffer the deaths of family and friends is very damaging for her. I also added additional aspects to her character and a determination to not have to live with the kind of disability she had before her long life was forced on her.
Those who aren't disabled however would never nor understand what life is like for those who are disabled. And that's generally why disability is never protrayd in video games since the main concept is that only those who aren't disabled can play video games, when it's a very narrow view of who can and can't play video games.
There are plenty of people who aren't disabled who don't play video games and are unable to, while there are those who are disabled who might like playing video games regardless of the additional effort they have to work with in order to do as well as they can.
The problem is that Star Trek is mostly an idealized vision of the future. Things like poverty, disease, handicap, and killing other humans are mostly things of the past due to social evolution and technology. The most famous handicapped person in Star Trek is Geordi La Forge and he can see better than any human due to his VISOR. So it is hard for some of us to see a disability like broken legs in a Star Trek Universe when technology would fix it. In 50 years if we keep our current rate of technology and wealth, I might have a problem with imagining a wheelchair as a necessity in North America.
Lots of us know handicapped people and wouldn't want to wish anyone else to be handicapped. I am confused how my stepdad with MS could be in a wheelchair and have such an amazing outlook on life. If I was in his situation, then I certainly wouldn't be able to be as positive as he is.
I am on topic. the thread is on wheelchairs, not your being in one. And yet again and again you use it. Your the one who told us your in a wheelchair and disabled, and now assume people are harping on you because you are. You discredit yourself.
You are the only one harping on, I told people I'm disabled because they asked, I gave the reasons why I wanted an in game wheelchair.
I certainly wouldnt be opposed to it, in fact I'd be more than welcomming to it
I think this would work out best as it would be giving a lot bigger group something fun and new to play with from the tech made (hover tech) they could give us cool things to play with at Risa and what not all kinda stuff that could be developed and be really interesting.
You are the only one harping on, I told people I'm disabled because they asked, I gave the reasons why I wanted an in game wheelchair.
Where did they ask? I don't remember asking, nor caring.
The very first post in this thread:
"I've been getting really upset by the lack of disabled people within STO, I mean I have to use a wheel chair in real life, I'd like to be able to use one in the game too. Capt Pike had one, so its certainly cannon, any chance this could be added?"
I am on topic. the thread is on wheelchairs, not your being in one. And yet again and again you use it. Your the one who told us your in a wheelchair and disabled, and now assume people are harping on you because you are. You discredit yourself.
Hi there,
although i do not know him, from what i can tell, FurQue is just trying to express an idea that may improve STO for all of us (personally I find the idea of offroad wheel chair races on vulcan to be a fun community event idea). However, it is unfortunate that you continue to attack FurQue instead of talking about the topic. II would appreciate seeing this discussion continue, as some very interesting ideas have been presented.
although i do not know him, from what i can tell, FurQue is just trying to express an idea that may improve STO for all of us (personally I find the idea of offroad wheel chair races on vulcan to be a fun community event idea). However, it is unfortunate that you continue to attack FurQue instead of talking about the topic. II would appreciate seeing this discussion continue, as some very interesting ideas have been presented.
Best Regards, Beagles
I'm still waiting for justification for starfleet to have disabled officers commanding starships in combat situations. :rolleyes:
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Hi there,
I am glad we agree. Let's make this more of a habit in the future. For example, we will now also agree that wheelchairs should be included in the game as character options. Agreeing is much more relaxing. Thank you for doing so.
Best Regards, Beagles
My captain cant jump 6 feet in the air.
No, I deally, for ground missions I'd like to be able to use my Boff's.
Now you got my attention using existing Trek Anti-Grav tech this would make sense. And could be used for other cool things beyond just the wheelchair concept.
When I created my character of Reina Beaumont I had her living with a disability that's forced on her, even though it might not seem like a disability, though for her to be long lived and suffer the deaths of family and friends is very damaging for her. I also added additional aspects to her character and a determination to not have to live with the kind of disability she had before her long life was forced on her.
Those who aren't disabled however would never nor understand what life is like for those who are disabled. And that's generally why disability is never protrayd in video games since the main concept is that only those who aren't disabled can play video games, when it's a very narrow view of who can and can't play video games.
There are plenty of people who aren't disabled who don't play video games and are unable to, while there are those who are disabled who might like playing video games regardless of the additional effort they have to work with in order to do as well as they can.
i like this too.
1. Sun Glasses
2. Aviators
3. 3 different sizes of Black Rimmed hipster type
4. Loose metallic frame
5. Harry Potter style
6. Early 80's nerdy type
7. Kirk's Glasses from Mccoy.
For klingons:
1. X scraped eye.
2. Steampunk style glasses
3. Dragonball Z-ish Scouter
4. The headpiece sector block station workers used
5. Maybe even the selection I stated for the feds.
Possibly, and then we have to go back to all the animation requirements, and the problem of jumping (again) and being able to effectively fight.
And then theres the rolling. You gonna do that in a wheelchair. I must also point out, a hover chair is not a wheelchair,
So your character should suffer because you don't have the option to fix your legs? Please think of your character and let them get the operation. Just put in your bio that your captain couldn't walk, but due to them getting a robotic brace, they could lead a productive life saving the Federation from destruction or something like that.
You do realize that Pike, by the point he was in the Fancy Wheelchair, was no longer doing anything but barely surviving...
They didn't have the heart to take him off the Active Duty List... but he was barely functional as a Human Being... never mind as a StarFleet Captain/Admiral.
And the Wheelchair on DS-9 was only a TEMPORARY THING...
Till that character could either go back to her Home World or they could find a way to get her body accustomed to heavier gravity's.
(I find it kinda strange that she could barely sit up because of the heavier gravity, but her internal organs and heart were still able to function...???)
While I have no difficulty in playing STO, I can certainly understand where you are comming from.
While I was only casually asking for wheelchairs, I would really really like to see something added along these lines. i can understand that it wont be tomorrow, but maybe just maybe it'll happen at some point.
This has nothing to do w/ you being in a wheelchair. if it wasn't for you, no one here would even know it, and this would be just a thread on the merits of a wheelchair in game. Again taking the victim stance. :mad:
Thats why the only idea I agreed with them on is the hover chair because it could open up some really interesting and exciting possibilities to the game as a whole
I did actually lol at this
Yeah you could use these on Vulcan when you beam down to talk to Fleet mates or whatnot.
Why use a hoverchair when you could have this?
You have tried to discredit me again and again.
I just asked for wheel chairs, the discussion is moving along now, please stop trying to derail the thread and stay on topic.
Or actual working limbs? Like with the tech that ST has been shown to have in universe?
Lol. I see what you did there.
It could be an out of combat chair that simply disappears when combat starts, just like the pets in space do.
It would be a happy compromise from me.
No. But, it is futuristic. Could be like M.O.D.O.K. from Marvel comics.
http://marvel.com/universe/MODOK
So Furque are you coming around to my sentiments that a "wheelchair" in STO would only work as a hover chair and that would be the best idea given that it would allow existing trek anti grav tech to be added easily along with your hover chair ???
I'm Alive? I'M ALIVE! HAHAHA I'M ALIVVVVVEEEE!!!
I am on topic. the thread is on wheelchairs, not your being in one. And yet again and again you use it. Your the one who told us your in a wheelchair and disabled, and now assume people are harping on you because you are. You discredit yourself.
I certainly wouldnt be opposed to it, in fact I'd be more than welcomming to it
The problem is that Star Trek is mostly an idealized vision of the future. Things like poverty, disease, handicap, and killing other humans are mostly things of the past due to social evolution and technology. The most famous handicapped person in Star Trek is Geordi La Forge and he can see better than any human due to his VISOR. So it is hard for some of us to see a disability like broken legs in a Star Trek Universe when technology would fix it. In 50 years if we keep our current rate of technology and wealth, I might have a problem with imagining a wheelchair as a necessity in North America.
Lots of us know handicapped people and wouldn't want to wish anyone else to be handicapped. I am confused how my stepdad with MS could be in a wheelchair and have such an amazing outlook on life. If I was in his situation, then I certainly wouldn't be able to be as positive as he is.
You are the only one harping on, I told people I'm disabled because they asked, I gave the reasons why I wanted an in game wheelchair.
I think this would work out best as it would be giving a lot bigger group something fun and new to play with from the tech made (hover tech) they could give us cool things to play with at Risa and what not all kinda stuff that could be developed and be really interesting.
Where did they ask? I don't remember asking, nor caring.
The very first post in this thread:
"I've been getting really upset by the lack of disabled people within STO, I mean I have to use a wheel chair in real life, I'd like to be able to use one in the game too. Capt Pike had one, so its certainly cannon, any chance this could be added?"
Who asked if your in a wheelchair?
Hi there,
although i do not know him, from what i can tell, FurQue is just trying to express an idea that may improve STO for all of us (personally I find the idea of offroad wheel chair races on vulcan to be a fun community event idea). However, it is unfortunate that you continue to attack FurQue instead of talking about the topic. II would appreciate seeing this discussion continue, as some very interesting ideas have been presented.
Best Regards, Beagles
I'm still waiting for justification for starfleet to have disabled officers commanding starships in combat situations. :rolleyes: