New PW Expansion (PWCN: Glory and Rebirth)

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  • Crazybladema - Harshlands
    Crazybladema - Harshlands Posts: 425 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    I've solo'd pv with stats like those before, it was a bit of a challenge to do it all in one pull, but 2-3 pulls is easily doable with a decent genie and some apoth.

    Well you know im ussually busy arguing with you and whatnot.

    But, clearly people have been having trouble with that level of gear and such like that in pv. Maybe you should make a video and show everyone how it is done? It would be helpful because some of my lower geared friends, who are arcanes and or archers, struggle to solo pv with their t3 +5.

    I could do the same, but Im a friggin melle class. b:surrender
  • Ursa - Dreamweaver
    Ursa - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,634 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    I've solo'd pv with stats like those before, it was a bit of a challenge to do it all in one pull, but 2-3 pulls is easily doable with a decent genie and some apoth.

    well, I guess I could do a run solo...pulling small groups and whatnot...I have to practice it a bit more. Problem with apoth is the cooldown. I for sure can do it with apoth + genie, but then I'll watch the paint dry until apoth cooldown... I have to try, but I don't think I'll be able to pull out 3 runs/15 min like that.
    Anyway , thanks for tip. If someone could do it it means it's just a matter of "try more and get better at it" (sort of like aoe grind in 2009 in map 3, lol, no one believed I could do it on wiz only self buffed. Took me some tries to get the routine polished up). thanks.
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  • Longknife - Harshlands
    Longknife - Harshlands Posts: 4,843 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    I was gonna say I've been solo'ing PV since r8 gears but then I remembered I'm a Psy and I'm good at not being hit so everyone would tell me to just **** off.
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  • Eoria - Harshlands
    Eoria - Harshlands Posts: 6,118 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    Anything with a zhen should do okay due to expel. Clerics are okay with purify+expel combo, but will have a lot of problems killing fast enough if vit build. Likewise for psys with psy will and then sage BoL+expel combo. Mystic...I've seen how Burnout does it. Probably gonna need Lucky Break.

    Really, the class that should have the most trouble in there is sin. :/
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  • Crazybladema - Harshlands
    Crazybladema - Harshlands Posts: 425 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    I was gonna say I've been solo'ing PV since r8 gears but then I remembered I'm a Psy and I'm good at not being hit so everyone would tell me to just **** off.

    Pro, I too solod pv with r8 gears. But I was good at being hit with everything that came at me and made things that hit me **** off.
  • Ursa - Dreamweaver
    Ursa - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,634 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    well I can solo it on my barb, BM and even on sin if I try a bit harder, but wiz...well, that's the sweet spot because outside of static buff I don't have anything to help me.
    I can't aoe stun for 6 seconds, I can't go in white voodoo until apoth is in cooldown, I don't have SoS/SoR/SoV and other SoNfabish skills to keep **** away from me. So ya, gimme all those and I'll fly through PV while eating popcorn and watching a movie on my 2nd screen

    Anything with a zhen should do okay due to expel.
    not enough really, even with a +10 G16 wep I can't kill everything fast enough to work only with expel. I'm pure mag, 3 base vit.
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  • Eoria - Harshlands
    Eoria - Harshlands Posts: 6,118 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    not enough really, even with a +10 G16 wep I can't kill everything fast enough to work only with expel. I'm pure mag, 3 base vit.

    I haven't really done PV on a mage, but would WotP->set zhen and expel yourself->drop zhen before expel ends and move away->another WotP work?

    If not, I'd probably just look at duoing/trioing. 'Cause lets face it, duoing/trioing better than no exp at all.
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  • freygin
    freygin Posts: 737 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    How is assassin's stealth level and detection level after reincarnation ? Will the new character levels add up to it or only follow the old levels ?

    if we merge skills, can we still use the previous skills before merged ?


    Is this all for cleric or only partial ? There is no offensive merged skills in it.
    I think Cleric was posted before, but, I cleaned it up a little. Not a lot of changes, the RB/BB changes are subtle at best, with a little something to up the DD while you're in Violet.
    I've bolded the important stuff.
    EDIT: In light of recent news, some skills may be tied to the reincarnation system. Skills require lv.11 to upgrade/merge.
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    New Skill:"Omniblessing" (Unofficial name)

    Mana 2400
    Channel 2.0 seconds
    Cast 3.0 seconds
    Cooldown 30.0 seconds
    Gain 50 chi

    Requisite Cultivation Aware of Vacuity

    Grant all squad members within 15 meters for 1 hour:
    An extra 60% from the equipment's magic defense
    An extra 60% from the equipment's physical defense
    An extra 70% from the equipment's magic attack
    Increased Health and Mana regeneration rate by 20 points per second

    EDIT: No brainer, but, probably doesn't stack with the other buffs
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    Regeneration Aura/BB

    Mana 500
    Channel 5.0 seconds
    Cooldown 30.0 seconds
    Weapon Unarmed, Magic Instruments

    Requisite Cultivation Aware of Vacuity

    Focus your empathetic energy to heal squad members within 15 meters
    of you. Use 500 Mana every 5 seconds to recover HP equal to 800 plus
    20% of base magic attack every 5 seconds and cut all damage taken
    by 50%. Skill will not stop until click Cancel or press ESC.

    Requires two Sparks
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    Heaven's Wrath/RB

    Mana 500
    Channel 5.0 seconds
    Cooldown 30.0 seconds
    Weapon Unarmed, Magic Instruments

    Requisite Cultivation Aware of Vacuity

    Focus all of your vigor to form a mystical array with
    a radius of 15 meters. Consuming 500 Mana every 5 seconds,
    increases the attack rate and channelling speed of squad
    members 20% and increases any weapon attack damage bonuses
    by 150%. Skill will not stop until you click cancel or
    press ESC.

    Requires one Spark
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    Reincarnation Skills
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    Wellspring Surge+Blessing of the Purehearted

    Channel 1.5 seconds
    Cast 1.0 seconds
    Cooldown 1.0 seconds
    Gain 10 chi

    Rapidly heals the target with a
    surge of magic, restoring 1300 HP
    plus 25% of your base magic attack.
    Can not be interrupted by normal attacks.

    Sage: Reduces the channeling time to 1.2 seconds.
    Demon: Chi gain increased to 15
    ============
    Great Cyclone

    Channel 1.0 seconds
    Cast 1.0 seconds
    Cooldown 3.0 seconds
    Gain 10 chi

    Inflicts metal damage equal to your base magic attack plus 100% of weapon damage plus 5266.
    Slow the target by 40% for 8 seconds. (Guaranteed debuff?)

    Skill has no cooldown while in Violet Dance form.

    Sage: Slow is increased to 50%, duration is increased to 10 seconds
    Demon: Deals an additional 1200 damage
    =============
  • AlysonRose - Heavens Tear
    AlysonRose - Heavens Tear Posts: 624 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    So, I'm still confused about Mystic skill changes.

    Mostly due to being the most unpopular class in ANY mmo I've ever played, there are way more and better formatted change logs for every other class b:chuckle

    So far it seems clear Lysing is going instant, Swirling Mist is going aoe with 3x the current CD, and WBD is getting more damage...and something else added?

    Devil may get better stats too? All the summons pretty much suck stat wise, but make up for it with their buffs/skills. Craggy is the quasi-exception.

    I read all this earlier and it was cool, but then I read that Weeping and Swinging are merging?

    So, I do moderate damage, lower your hp slightly, heal myself for barely more than BitC with longer cast time, and get a insignificant hp buff for a few seconds?

    Well that sounds nice and all, but if thats the method they found to making Swinging useful...GG

    It would make WAAAAAAY more sense to merge Invigorate and Verdant Blessing. I mean SERIOUSLY, they share the same animation already and you ALWAYS end up casting them together anyways. Especially due to Invigorate going poof if you change maps.
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  • Burnout - Harshlands
    Burnout - Harshlands Posts: 2,585 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    well I can solo it on my barb, BM and even on sin if I try a bit harder, but wiz...well, that's the sweet spot because outside of static buff I don't have anything to help me.
    I can't aoe stun for 6 seconds, I can't go in white voodoo until apoth is in cooldown, I don't have SoS/SoR/SoV and other SoNfabish skills to keep **** away from me. So ya, gimme all those and I'll fly through PV while eating popcorn and watching a movie on my 2nd screen



    not enough really, even with a +10 G16 wep I can't kill everything fast enough to work only with expel. I'm pure mag, 3 base vit.

    You should be able to do it w/ apoth + good mag genie and sage DS/pyro. (and cleric/barb buffs obv)

    1. Have 3.99 sparks, DS + holy path + DS

    2. Pop Shadow binder powder - this should get you to around the 2nd lake.

    3. Triple spark, then DS

    4. Master li's to get 1 spark, then Dragon's Breath + expel

    5. Most mobs should be dead by the 2nd tick, all will die by the 3rd tick

    6. You should be able to finish the rest of the instance without Shadow binder powder, might be 2-3 more pulls depending on how much you can handle and how good your genie is (this is where sage is important, you need to get back up to 3.99 sparks asap to make good time)

    Haven't actually tried it though, so it's all theorycraft. Demon wiz are SOL for PV except getting OP gear.
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  • Adroit - Lost City
    Adroit - Lost City Posts: 4,628 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    well I can solo it on my barb, BM and even on sin if I try a bit harder, but wiz...well, that's the sweet spot because outside of static buff I don't have anything to help me.
    I can't aoe stun for 6 seconds, I can't go in white voodoo until apoth is in cooldown, I don't have SoS/SoR/SoV and other SoNfabish skills to keep **** away from me. So ya, gimme all those and I'll fly through PV while eating popcorn and watching a movie on my 2nd screen



    not enough really, even with a +10 G16 wep I can't kill everything fast enough to work only with expel. I'm pure mag, 3 base vit.

    Have you thought about sparking before opening zhen?
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  • Ursa - Dreamweaver
    Ursa - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,634 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    ty, gonna try it this week-end
    Have you thought about sparking before opening zhen?
    yeah, but that kinda' leaves me "dry" after...

    anyway, thanks everyone for tips. I'll figure it out. I haven't tried more than 3 times until now to do it, so yeah, I might just need practice since I'm only at G16 average refines and not at r9rrr +10/12 level.
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  • Burnout - Harshlands
    Burnout - Harshlands Posts: 2,585 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    ty, gonna try it this week-end


    yeah, but that kinda' leaves me "dry" after...

    anyway, thanks everyone for tips. I'll figure it out. I haven't tried more than 3 times until now to do it, so yeah, I might just need practice since I'm only at G16 average refines and not at r9rrr +10/12 level.

    I need 3.99 sparks on mystic as well, I need to spam my base nuke after every pull to get back up to 3.99 and I can still fit in 3 runs.

    With R999 I could probably do 5-6 since I wouldn't need to 3-spark anymore, but with your level of gears it just takes time, no way around it.
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  • Eoria - Harshlands
    Eoria - Harshlands Posts: 6,118 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    I need 3.99 sparks on mystic as well, I need to spam my base nuke after every pull to get back up to 3.99 and I can still fit in 3 runs.

    With R999 I could probably do 5-6 since I wouldn't need to 3-spark anymore, but with your level of gears it just takes time, no way around it.

    Since we're on this topic, can you link me your PV mystic vid again? Gonna have another go at it when I have Lucky Break. p;
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  • Saethos - Raging Tide
    Saethos - Raging Tide Posts: 1,239 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    Just a thought...Can people that have been reincarnated form full squads to do TM runs with their gear while still being able to get the TM rewards regardless of formerly being level 100+? Like TM 79, for example. I might start a caster and account stash the robe if so.
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  • scruncy
    scruncy Posts: 458 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    this became thread about how to do pv? b:lipcurl

    someone ,who was reading patch notes, told me that tm is removed.
    Dunno if it's true.
  • Crazybladema - Harshlands
    Crazybladema - Harshlands Posts: 425 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    scruncy wrote: »
    this became thread about how to do pv? b:lipcurl

    someone ,who was reading patch notes, told me that tm is removed.
    Dunno if it's true.

    Yes, yes it is.
  • STrickeeN - Harshlands
    STrickeeN - Harshlands Posts: 273 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    NEW FLYERS FOR EACH RACE!!

    http://cn.ecatomb.net/mount.php
  • Saethos - Raging Tide
    Saethos - Raging Tide Posts: 1,239 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    NEW FLYERS FOR EACH RACE!!

    http://cn.ecatomb.net/mount.php

    Uhm...wrong link?
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  • STrickeeN - Harshlands
    STrickeeN - Harshlands Posts: 273 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    Yes, yes it is.
    Uhm...wrong link?

    arent those new?
  • Saethos - Raging Tide
    Saethos - Raging Tide Posts: 1,239 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    arent those new?

    EDIT: Nevermind, I didn't realize those were links to each race, you're right.
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  • Euthymius - Heavens Tear
    Euthymius - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,162 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    NEW FLYERS FOR EACH RACE!!

    http://cn.ecatomb.net/mount.php

    Coming to a pack sale near you b:mischievous
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  • Saethos - Raging Tide
    Saethos - Raging Tide Posts: 1,239 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    Coming to a pack sale near you b:mischievous

    Crafty al' you. Here I thought i finally found a post without a pony image, then I notice the bear is a link. Almost had you!
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  • Bubbles - Morai
    Bubbles - Morai Posts: 1,143 Arc User
    edited October 2013
  • Yoruichi - Morai
    Yoruichi - Morai Posts: 16 Arc User
    edited October 2013
  • WnbTank - Archosaur
    WnbTank - Archosaur Posts: 1,472 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    Just a thought...Can people that have been reincarnated form full squads to do TM runs with their gear while still being able to get the TM rewards regardless of formerly being level 100+? Like TM 79, for example. I might start a caster and account stash the robe if so.

    After reading the link few pages back with all the changes, I believe they taking TM69/79 away.
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  • Saethos - Raging Tide
    Saethos - Raging Tide Posts: 1,239 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    That's just...Beautiful! b:dirty
    After reading the link few pages back with all the changes, I believe they taking TM69/79 away.

    Awe...Well, was worth the thought.
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  • kanotoushi
    kanotoushi Posts: 2 Arc User
    edited October 2013

    It's so similar to the same page in other game I play, even the sin animation looks almost the same. Looks cool anyway, I didn't see any new races in there.
  • Bubbles - Morai
    Bubbles - Morai Posts: 1,143 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    kanotoushi wrote: »
    It's so similar to the same page in other game I play, even the sin animation looks almost the same. Looks cool anyway, I didn't see any new races in there.

    There won't be a new race.

    The so called new races were really just npcs from the old world, just as I was expecting...

    I only had the section up just in case I was mistaken.
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  • Lunari_Fenix - Heavens Tear
    Lunari_Fenix - Heavens Tear Posts: 128 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    So, I'm still confused about Mystic skill changes.

    Mostly due to being the most unpopular class in ANY mmo I've ever played, there are way more and better formatted change logs for every other class b:chuckle
    Decided to do an updated list for mystics:
    BREAKING NEWS:
    There has been confirmation that once skills have been merged, the original skills are no longer available.
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    Lysing

    Cast Instant
    Cooldown 3.0 seconds

    Causes all summoned plants within 26.5 meters to explode.
    Deals damage to all nearby enemies depending on the plant.
    Also adds some special status effects to the targets.
    Must select a target to cast.
    The range of each plant's explosion is 10 meters.
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    Weeping Breeze Dance+Swinging Cloud Dance(Unsure personally)

    Range 27  meters
    Channel 2.0  seconds
    Cast 1.0  seconds
    Cooldown 10.0  seconds
    Gain 20 chi

    Deals Wood damage equal to your basic Magic Attack
    plus 250% Weapon Attack plus 8776. Reduces target's
    Max HP by 8% for 8 seconds.
    Depending on your soulforce, there is up to a 50% chance
    to reduce Absorb Soul channeling time by 50% for 6 seconds.

    Kudos to Mars from Morai for translating the above effect.
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    Swirling Mist

    Range 27.0  meters
    Channel 1.0  seconds
    Cast 1.0  seconds
    Cooldown 15.0  seconds
    Gain 10 chi

    Deal damage equal to your base magic attack plus 6018 wood damage, and inflict the
    Mist's Grasp status effect to the target and those within a 10 meter radius.
    When the target's Health is below
    60%, the target is dealt your base magic attack and an additional
    4300 damage as continuous Wood damage over 9 seconds.
    The Mist's Grasp status effect lasts for 45 seconds.

    Sage: Adds an additional 1800 wood damage to the status effect
    Demon: Has a 25% chance to reduces target's Wood Resistance by 15% for 6 seconds.
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    Devil Chiyu

    Mana 840
    Channel 1.5  seconds
    Cast 1.5  seconds
    Cooldown 8.0  seconds
    Gain 15 chi

    Summons a Devil Chihyu to assist you, which deals Physical
    damage. Use Energy Leech to improve your Physical Defense
    by 100% and Critical Hit Rate by 30% for 20 seconds.

    Needs Chi to cast its own skills.
    Learn Transference to turn your Mana into its Chi.

    Sage: Mana cost reduced by 10%
    Chihyu learns skill: Boost
    Basic stats are improved

    Demon: Gain 15 extra Chi
    Chihyu learns skill: Boost
    Basic stats are improved
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    Sublime Transfusion

    Minor upgrade:(Won't need a new book for this one)
    This spell is not effective against enemies 10 or more levels above you.

    EDIT:Looking back on some of the skills, it appears that the 2-stage morai skills are getting some tweaks. Will update later with findings.
    EDIT: Not as much as I had hoped, oh well.
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    Blade Tornado
    Depending on your Soulforce,
    you also deal an additional physical damage between 12000 and 20000
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    Absorbing Array 
    Inflicts an aura on your target that absorbs 15% magic attack
    in addition to 675
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