New PW Expansion (PWCN: Glory and Rebirth)

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  • Longknife - Harshlands
    Longknife - Harshlands Posts: 4,843 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    Had a quick lookie loo at the Psychic changes:
    With Telekinesis, turns out that "chance" thingy also translates similarly to strike/hit so I'm thinking it does a DoT then the boom. Kinda makes sense when you factor in the Sage bonus.
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    Telekinesis

    Channel 1.6 seconds
    Cast 0.8 seconds
    Cooldown 30.0 seconds

    Curses the target, inflicting base magic damage plus 500% weapon damage
    plus 6584 earth damage over 12 seconds.
    After 12 seconds, inflict base magic damage plus 150% weapon damage plus 7522 earth damage.

    The skill cannot land a critical hit, but has twice your critical hit chance of dealing 1.5x damage.

    Costs 30 Chi.

    Sage~ Sustained damage increased by 2400.
    Demon~ Explosion damage increased by 1200.
    ================
    Aqua Impact and Spirit Blast look correct to me, and yes, it does mean Sage Spirit Blast has a guaranteed 15 chi instead of 20% chance at 30 chi.

    Also, no mention of any changes to Red Tide and Earth Vector. You can rest easy, methinks.

    ...Wait. Does that mean Sage Spirit Blast is 15 chi per cast or 25 per cast? Cause 15 is kinda lame (basically a SLIGHT nerf) and 25 is omfgwtfbbq awesomely broken. Psys would freaking **** chi.


    And it sounds like basically Telekinesis and Sand Trap just get fused into one singular skill, AKA two spells for the price of one when you cast, which would make that hands down the single best DoT spell in the game.
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  • Lunari_Fenix - Heavens Tear
    Lunari_Fenix - Heavens Tear Posts: 128 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    ...Wait. Does that mean Sage Spirit Blast is 15 chi per cast or 25 per cast? Cause 15 is kinda lame (basically a SLIGHT nerf) and 25 is omfgwtfbbq awesomely broken. Psys would freaking **** chi.


    And it sounds like basically Telekinesis and Sand Trap just get fused into one singular skill, AKA two spells for the price of one when you cast, which would make that hands down the single best DoT spell in the game.

    Nope. You get 10 chi for the cast and sage bonus gives you 5 more to make 15; and yes, Tele/Sand Trap are being fused. How it all works is still unknown, but, you will need those two maxed to get the fusion.
    EDIT: Changed previous post for clarity.
  • porphy
    porphy Posts: 123 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    This info makes me set back a catshop and merch, merch, merch.

    Well, I'll be only coming back for real if there are new classes to be announced. Other than that, meh.
    Been more than a year since I quit playing, but still on rankings.

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  • Mayfly - Dreamweaver
    Mayfly - Dreamweaver Posts: 6,094 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    jojjee91 wrote: »
    Someone can explain this? u can choose to be Reincarnated or will all be that? if u do it will u lose ur r9 gear?

    The Japanese blog post I referenced up-thread indicates there's a 2 million fee to reincarnate, so definitely a choice involved; it also shows a level 102 character with 200k rep wearing high level armor after reincarnation; the arms, boots and weapon are red indicating there's insufficient relevant stat points to use them, but the chest and legs are white. I presume these are rank 8 gear, requiring only level and reputation to equip (and highest achieved level seems to be sufficient to cover the level requirement) with the other pieces probably Nirvana gear.

    tl;dr: Yes, you can choose whether or not to reincarnate, and no, you won't lose your existing gear (you will even be able to use rank gear that doesn't have stat requirements from level 1.)
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  • Asterelle - Sanctuary
    Asterelle - Sanctuary Posts: 930 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    @GlenRoss - Archosaur
    With R999 most classes can do 5 - 6 PV runs at a time. With the shroud token you can get another token for another 5-6 runs. Thats 10-12 runs at like 7m xp each with the DC neck for 70-84m xp in 30 mins. That's without doing anything else for xp.
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  • Ursa - Dreamweaver
    Ursa - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,634 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    ok, lets say R9rrr can do that.
    Now how many of the rest of the g16 mid refines can do that and how long it will take? yeah, thought so.
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  • GlenRoss - Archosaur
    GlenRoss - Archosaur Posts: 430 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    @GlenRoss - Archosaur
    With R999 most classes can do 5 - 6 PV runs at a time. With the shroud token you can get another token for another 5-6 runs. Thats 10-12 runs at like 7m xp each with the DC neck for 70-84m xp in 30 mins. That's without doing anything else for xp.

    Wow. Thanks. I never realized how inept I am. I can't do more than 3 runs per 15 min, if I'm cleaning out the joint. If I race through I only get half of the exp. Can't imagine doing 6 unless I'm skipping through. I'm rrr9.
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  • ChevaIier - Harshlands
    ChevaIier - Harshlands Posts: 300 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    You won't need to "pop" a 105 with Mystical Eye if you intelligently use plants in NW and TW (revelation potions are just for the presumption that most people are around your level and you're not level 100), there will be other targets to use them on which will reveal any stealthed person nearby. How do I know this? My Mystic who does NW and TW of course. If you're relying that much on Mystical Eye you're likely a ****ty Mystic. That's on top of jumping to conclusions about things (without substantiation) before more information becomes available.


    Who's surprised?

    Excuse me. Do you know what Mystical Eye does? You do realize it UNSTEALTHS sins for you right? Wtf do you mean intelligently use plants in NW/TW LOL. Put one down and wait for a sin to walk physically near the plant?

    -GOSH I'm a dumb sin let's walk into this AOE plant in THIS particular spot in this huge instance-

    Another example of why so many mystics are so bad.
  • sellers
    sellers Posts: 10 Arc User
    edited October 2013



    Barb:
    Upgrade: Beastial Onslaught
    Grade 3 rock + 60 ink

    Upgrade: Stomp of Beast King
    Grade 2 rock + 30 ink

    Upgrade: Sunder
    Grade 4 rock + 60 ink

    Uprade: Mighty Swing
    Grade 1 rock + 10 ink

    So... what about king beast's inspiration? Will it be automatically changed to have a 2min cooldown? (I hope not).
  • Asterelle - Sanctuary
    Asterelle - Sanctuary Posts: 930 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    I checked the cooldown for Arrow Inferno in game and it is still the version that has a 60s cooldown. I don't know what that 30s cooldown version in that bottom section is for but it doesn't appear to be visible in game. I don't know what's going on in that bottom section. Maybe they would be visible after reincarnation.
    sellers wrote: »
    So... what about king beast's inspiration? Will it be automatically changed to have a 2min cooldown? (I hope not).

    I think that was one from the bottom MISC section. I am having doubts any of those skills are actually in the game. The ones I can confirm as available are listed here: http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showpost.php?p=20003021
    There is a chance it's only visible after reincarnation.
    ok, lets say R9rrr can do that.
    Now how many of the rest of the g16 mid refines can do that and how long it will take? yeah, thought so.

    1) R999 is hardly super elite gear these days. There are plenty of guilds where the majority of members have R999. It's doable.

    2) Even if you can only do 2-3 runs per token with G16 thats like a month and a half of PV to do 104-105. Very reasonable for just 30mins a day. People who are wasting their time with QQ would have been 105 if they were motivated enough.

    Wow. Thanks. I never realized how inept I am. I can't do more than 3 runs per 15 min, if I'm cleaning out the joint. If I race through I only get half of the exp. Can't imagine doing 6 unless I'm skipping through. I'm rrr9.

    Well here's an archer doing 5 runs. I think 6 would be the limit
    http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=1535221
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  • Lunari_Fenix - Heavens Tear
    Lunari_Fenix - Heavens Tear Posts: 128 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    sellers wrote: »
    So... what about king beast's inspiration? Will it be automatically changed to have a 2min cooldown? (I hope not).

    Yeah, no. That was a mis-translation on my end, BKI remains exactly the way it is. Though Barbs might be seeing a skill that act's similarly on it's way.
  • GlenRoss - Archosaur
    GlenRoss - Archosaur Posts: 430 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    Well here's an archer doing 5 runs. I think 6 would be the limithttp://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=1535221

    The video is no longer available. I take your word for it. Stunning, though. I'm close enough to 105 that I'm not worried about it, other than I'm always interested in re-evaluating my tactics. Sounds like I should b:chuckle.
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  • Crazybladema - Harshlands
    Crazybladema - Harshlands Posts: 425 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    ok, lets say R9rrr can do that.
    Now how many of the rest of the g16 mid refines can do that and how long it will take? yeah, thought so.

    They are just gone make a lecture about how they farmed their r999. Tell you that your lazy and talk about you as if you were an inferior player. When we all know how they all got to where they are now. Watch I'm gonna get lectured next. b:victory
  • Eoria - Harshlands
    Eoria - Harshlands Posts: 6,118 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    Updated wizzie and psy skill posts with corrections/new skills.
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  • _Lisanna_ - Morai
    _Lisanna_ - Morai Posts: 28 Arc User
    edited October 2013
  • KuruTu - Harshlands
    KuruTu - Harshlands Posts: 158 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    Divinity Prison/Headhunt-Raving Slash

    Range 4.5 meters
    Channel 0.4 seconds
    Cast 2.5 seconds
    Cooldown 30 seconds

    Stun the target for 6 seconds, inflicting base physical damage plus 750% weapon damage
    plus 14994 physical damage; and slow by 60% for 10 seconds.

    I better be smoking something really good reading this, who cares about its stun duration with that damage. 54564564 brainless sins spamming one skill and oneshot everyone with it after update? I don't call this balanced game lawl
  • Longknife - Harshlands
    Longknife - Harshlands Posts: 4,843 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    Divinity Prison/Headhunt-Raving Slash

    Range 4.5 meters
    Channel 0.4 seconds
    Cast 2.5 seconds
    Cooldown 30 seconds

    Stun the target for 6 seconds, inflicting base physical damage plus 750% weapon damage
    plus 14994 physical damage; and slow by 60% for 10 seconds.

    Costs 2 sparks

    Sage: 50% chance to reduce cost to 1 spark
    Demon: Extend stun by 1 second
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    Sins should gain 2 sparks for casting that imo.
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  • Crazybladema - Harshlands
    Crazybladema - Harshlands Posts: 425 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    Divinity Prison/Headhunt-Raving Slash

    Range 4.5 meters
    Channel 0.4 seconds
    Cast 2.5 seconds
    Cooldown 30 seconds

    Stun the target for 6 seconds, inflicting base physical damage plus 750% weapon damage
    plus 14994 physical damage; and slow by 60% for 10 seconds.

    I better be smoking something really good reading this, who cares about its stun duration with that damage. 54564564 brainless sins spamming one skill and oneshot everyone with it after update? I don't call this balanced game lawl

    Well time to finish up my sin alt.
  • Lunari_Fenix - Heavens Tear
    Lunari_Fenix - Heavens Tear Posts: 128 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    Divinity Prison/Headhunt-Raving Slash

    Range 4.5 meters
    Channel 0.4 seconds
    Cast 2.5 seconds
    Cooldown 30 seconds

    Stun the target for 6 seconds, inflicting base physical damage plus 750% weapon damage
    plus 14994 physical damage; and slow by 60% for 10 seconds.

    I better be smoking something really good reading this, who cares about its stun duration with that damage. 54564564 brainless sins spamming one skill and oneshot everyone with it after update? I don't call this balanced game lawl

    You are, considering we have to earn the materials for the skills, which are untradable. Although, we don't have any info on how hard they are to collect at this point.
  • Longknife - Harshlands
    Longknife - Harshlands Posts: 4,843 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    Divinity Prison/Headhunt-Raving Slash

    Range 4.5 meters
    Channel 0.4 seconds
    Cast 2.5 seconds
    Cooldown 30 seconds

    Stun the target for 6 seconds, inflicting base physical damage plus 750% weapon damage
    plus 14994 physical damage; and slow by 60% for 10 seconds.

    I better be smoking something really good reading this, who cares about its stun duration with that damage. 54564564 brainless sins spamming one skill and oneshot everyone with it after update? I don't call this balanced game lawl



    Sins are also getting an insta-cast 50 meter range AOE that deals 900% weapon damage + 35786 additional damage.

    Oh, and also it gives them a spark.
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  • Kittysama - Raging Tide_1432680721
    edited October 2013
    divinity Prison/headhunt-raving Slash

    Range 4.5 Meters
    Channel 0.4 Seconds
    Cast 2.5 Seconds
    Cooldown 30 Seconds

    Stun The Target For 6 Seconds, Inflicting Base Physical Damage Plus 750% Weapon Damage
    Plus 14994 Physical Damage; And Slow By 60% For 10 Seconds.

    I Better Be Smoking Something Really Good Reading This, Who Cares About Its Stun Duration With That Damage. 54564564 Brainless Sins Spamming One Skill And Oneshot Everyone With It After Update? I Don't Call This Balanced Game Lawl

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  • Eoria - Harshlands
    Eoria - Harshlands Posts: 6,118 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    Divinity Prison/Headhunt-Raving Slash

    Range 4.5 meters
    Channel 0.4 seconds
    Cast 2.5 seconds
    Cooldown 30 seconds

    Stun the target for 6 seconds, inflicting base physical damage plus 750% weapon damage
    plus 14994 physical damage; and slow by 60% for 10 seconds.

    I better be smoking something really good reading this, who cares about its stun duration with that damage. 54564564 brainless sins spamming one skill and oneshot everyone with it after update? I don't call this balanced game lawl

    The upgrade to wizzie's Glacial Snare/Emberstorm is also equally dumb.
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  • Longknife - Harshlands
    Longknife - Harshlands Posts: 4,843 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    The upgrade to wizzie's Glacial Snare/Emberstorm is also equally dumb.

    They should make that skill fire element. Because neccesary.
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  • glaesum
    glaesum Posts: 128 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    Sorry for again this question...b:cry

    but.. need pass all culti (with chrono) with reincarnation or not ?

    and may reincarned , up to lvl 25 for example, and come back to "historic, lvl", and if need return later to lvl 25 reincar. character ?!
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  • Eoria - Harshlands
    Eoria - Harshlands Posts: 6,118 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    They should make that skill fire element. Because neccesary.

    Original-
    The yin and yang forces into the enemy spells poles Addict
    Double whammy, causing a total equivalent basis Spell
    Attack attach 800% attack power equipment damage 9779

    Could mean it does both fire+water damage or it's dependent on which shield you have up (and potentially completely unusable with Stone Barrier up, but that's speculation on my part). Regardless, I only see this being used with Pyroshell due to stun chance and crit rate.
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  • Jarkhen - Archosaur
    Jarkhen - Archosaur Posts: 990 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    The video is no longer available. I take your word for it. Stunning, though. I'm close enough to 105 that I'm not worried about it, other than I'm always interested in re-evaluating my tactics. Sounds like I should b:chuckle.

    I get 5-6 runs on my archer in 15 mins. Hit me up ingame sometime if you want, I'll do a set with you so you can see how I do mine.
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  • KeKeLeLe - Archosaur
    KeKeLeLe - Archosaur Posts: 19 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    Sooo some updates on the new stuff...

    http://w2i.wanmei.com/news/bulletin/20131017/71962.shtml

    so it seems we can reincarnate a lot of times b:chuckle
  • Ursa - Dreamweaver
    Ursa - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,634 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    1) R999 is hardly super elite gear these days. There are plenty of guilds where the majority of members have R999. It's doable.
    I'm not sure what your circle of friends/guild is , but I can tell you there is no majority of r9rrr in any of the guilds I know on my server.
    2) Even if you can only do 2-3 runs per token with G16 thats like a month and a half of PV to do 104-105. Very reasonable for just 30mins a day. People who are wasting their time with QQ would have been 105 if they were motivated enough.
    I have g16 set,11k HP, 14k pdef full buffed with 35 def levels, +10 weap and I can't go through it solo yet. Might need to work on what I need to do in there since I haven't tried much, but I don't think I'm even close to being able to solo that unless I miss something. Squads? well, I'll find squads for BH29 faster than PV100+
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  • Milfhound - Harshlands
    Milfhound - Harshlands Posts: 136 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    The upgrade to wizzie's Glacial Snare/Emberstorm is also equally dumb.

    Im curious as to how this works...
  • Adroit - Lost City
    Adroit - Lost City Posts: 4,628 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    I have g16 set,11k HP, 14k pdef full buffed with 35 def levels, +10 weap and I can't go through it solo yet. Might need to work on what I need to do in there since I haven't tried much, but I don't think I'm even close to being able to solo that unless I miss something. Squads? well, I'll find squads for BH29 faster than PV100+

    I've solo'd pv with stats like those before, it was a bit of a challenge to do it all in one pull, but 2-3 pulls is easily doable with a decent genie and some apoth.
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