Main Discussion about NW pricing and effect on game

Flamespirit - Dreamweaver wrote: »

cash shop +12 an you will still be ahead of the game...free to play players will be running around in +6 flawless gemed gear.

sad part is a r9 +10/11 psy 1shot him and hes +10 r9rr (armor wise that is) wep wise both +12 and he tried ig dbl spark hope for a zerk crit and fail reselath on said psy 20 times hoping to 1shot him and failed.... i think the +6 could still drop him >.>

Hey ulqui think of it this way...

The game needs money to go on...
you cash shopped money for others to play for free...


so YOU payed for my R9R2.

I can not thank you enough!!

Thanks soooo much ulqui - you and you alone are the only person you can hold responsible for this!! Dont quit on us now - Stay to see your very own creation!

THANKKK YOUUUUUUb:cryb:dirtyb:kissb:thanks

I'm not CSer or something, but Nations War's reward killed totally PWi's Economic, so this is really ridiculous, I love to play this game, but if this keep so, this game won't playable anymore.

Alexandreus - Dreamweaver wrote: »

I spent a good deal of my time and effort and never achieved R9 simply because the gear I worked for or cashed was as good as I wanted it to be, and now more than ever I do NOT want to spend more cash on the game when it simply changed overnight how measly my set of gear is. Whilst I do see the bright side of it, I can't help but feel a bit cheated that everything has just changed so suddenly. It's a dramatic shift, and it will feel rough for the near future but it's something which should at least be made to cater to all those who worked hard for the past years to achieve what they have.

Totally agree with Alexpoo. This Nations War will definitely make PVP more interesting, but I sort of feel cheated with how easily people can acquire gear now. My g16 set which took me 6 month to farm (not including weapon since I CSed that), will be easily obtainable by players in less than 2 weeks if they do Nations War every time when it's available. My hard work goes down the drain just like that b:shedtear

I CSed my g16 weapon, but as Alex stated, I feel no desire to ever put more cash into this game. What's the point when I know it will be easily obtainable in the future? I'm sure many other players feel the way I do towards using real money in this game now. However, the real question is this, will PWI gain more profit from this since it will force people with a superior complex to buy R9 or CS for refines and shards? OR it will decrease their profit dramatically due to less people like me who just CS for a part of their gear?b:question

how did it kill it?by giveing everyone same chance to compete in tws or pk again people who spent thousands and thousands of $


ik this is gm mistake.....but for once they did something useful for pwi

pwi database says 1 rap = 60 suppy token and 1 cunny = 8 supply token


im sure its gonna be fixed with new maint...but they better not thinking about rolling it back


some people farm hard last few days when x2 started....i farmed myeslf 200m+
roll back can just make even more and more people rage and quit

Would you be so kind to explain why it killed the economy?

lol this doesnt only affect people who worked for r9t3 it affects every1 that worked for nirvana and r8r x.x

daftpunk2 wrote: »

Would you be so kind to explain why it killed the economy?

there wouldnt be much left to farm -tt (most profitable),warosong,lunar and delta

nirvy was best farming instance for caster....


now when it would became usless...ofc all people would want refine gears and get gems for ther epic gears that would sky rocket gold price same as gems

brewdogg0007 wrote: »

congrats on making your game a childs game now giving away everything for free. worked my *** off to get my 3rd cast nirvina and now you just gave everyone in the game the same gear as me in less than 2 hours....

roll back your game before the nation war take it all way and make the max coins like 10 this is a bit stupid

yea and you smd and give me back 200m i farmed this 2days and its a deal b:victory

You could always quit and then you dont have to QQ so much.

Alexandreus - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Ok so fix it by... NOT rolling it back and letting all those people keep everything... and then NOT let other people do the same?

Keep EVERYTHING the way it is now, since it's already screwed anyway and let people adjust.

Agreed, but put at least MoGs into the rewards for NW or back into DQ (Not even GSTs) to allow F2P to have a decent start torwards R9.

Castgurl - Raging Tide wrote: »

I had a lot of fun in the Nation Wars. I built my character for pretty much TW related events and what have you. When I switched servers, I did far less TW than before and kinda missed it - more now that I'm in a guild that's not quite ready for it yet. The event brought back memories of being in TW and it was a lot of fun -

I *am* worried that a lot of those that poured money onto their nirvy - R8 - R9 even may leave/rage (well, they are but meh...LOL)

And the Nirvy market has taken a HUGE nose dive.

My veno is sage and I never really bothered with farming Nirvy in the time that it was first put into the game up until now. In fact, this 2x was the first that I actually did such a thing LOL. I farmed mats, TT and bhs for the coin to buy the cannies when prices were lower...

Anyway, this has brought some good - I finally got half of my gear in the Nirvy stage. Will I do Nation Wars again? Hell yes. Do the non-cashers have a chance to stand toe to toe against the cash shoppers/those that are higher in gear? Of course. I can't help but feel bad for those that put major money AND time into their gear...but all well. It's something new - either accept it, or get off.

The thing IS, that it's easy and simple for a player who never CS'd (not assuming you have or have not) to simply state "Deal with it". Since they don't know or recognize that feel of being cheated in one way or another.

As I stated before, I see the bright side and do intend to keep playing since it evens out the playing field now more than ever. HOWEVER, it does not change the fact that I did spend my money on something which has just completely overnight become almost obsolete. Not only that, people who have spent countless hours farming 2x simply to have what people can now obtain in one night, it happens.

To people who now view the game as fair and balanced, it's "Deal with it or gtfo". I do feel cheated in a way, but won't accuse PWI or anyone of making me feel cheated. You can't simply GIVE BACK all the money which you have already put into the game, that's the one thing people misunderstand. "Cash shoppers will always cash shop" seems to be what people always expect, when it isn't always true. At least give those who keep the game free for all something in return. I'm not saying give them FREE R9 or something insane like that, but some form of compensation which feels justified to NOT ONLY THEM, BUT ALSO THOSE AROUND THEM. That's all.

alex i know you feel cheated.thats normal.but just for example of my case

iv been cheated also.....many times....from gms and game

same as you feel now you wasted your money....its the same how i feel i wasted my hours and hours farming and leveling


example - i made g15 +12 nirvy daggers (bound) before even rank9 or g16

my options - go g16 and reset +12....or pay for transfer (idk how many but its not cheap)
and hope to get interval....in case i dont i need to keep rerolling and transfering +12 each time


example number 2 - fc glitch.....back in days fc glitch was popular but it was against rules
i have kept watching forums and seeing GMs saing its banable....i never wanted to risk what i farmed in this game in last couple of years.....so i decided go fair way and not do it

and then again now i feel cheated because all this people glitched and got away with it



pwi devs are incapable to do anything good....if you been playing for long time you should know it.....everyone get cheated by game in some way

oVenusArmanio wrote: »

Moved because it's about the effects of the supply tokens....

Getting tired yet?

economy is not ruined because some things are not affected by this change, but a wide aspect of the economy is ruined...here is the reason?

1. Many players make their coins through nirvana, nirvana is now useless and it will go back to when sins/aps dominated farming and everyone gets screwed.

2. GBQ mats another way people make coins are gbq mats.

3. Many of the mats required to craft each of those warsoul mats, may be affected...just have to wait and see