Things you don't want to hear your squadmates say

Saethos - Raging Tide · September 2012

PheosNyx - Sanctuary wrote: »

I don't like it when people say things like "stop talking, just go - I'm A) at work (and/or) B)need to leave." It is not our fault you can't manage your time adequately. If you don't have time for anything but a perfect run don't go. People like that ruin a normally fun experience for me.

With my previous job I was on call all day at some points, so if my phone rang, I had to go right then and their, no exceptions, or I was fired. It's not always the persons fault...

Though I never say "Hurry gotta go" It's usually "Sorry, work called, I have to go" *Saethos has left the squad* *Saethos is offline*

XShui - Lost City · September 2012

The__Sun - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Me: Hey ______ (Blademaster) can you HF on the next boss

BM: yeah im having fun

Me: ...

LMAO!!
This one makes me laugh so hard!! XDD
Im a BM myself. Ill keep this one in mind and use it when the situation comes xDDD

Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands · September 2012

When you answer a wc for a bh then teleport in the cave wait people than the lead say ''oh sorry i dont need my bad'' and he leave and other people too.

Colum - Raging Tide · September 2012

I always skip lunar xD

I remember 1 FC run long time ago, 9x one

BM says: " I need sage barb buff!!!1 * leaves * "

oh.. my.. god

KingCrash - Dreamweaver · September 2012

"...I forgot to pick up the BH"

And then they run to go get it.

Nimithielle - Sanctuary · September 2012

I wasn't actually in the squad in question, but hearing someone ask on worldchat for people with 5+ refined weapons for BH29 was ridiculous.

Irca - Harshlands · September 2012

Nimithielle - Sanctuary wrote: »

I wasn't actually in the squad in question, but hearing someone ask on worldchat for people with 5+ refined weapons for BH29 was ridiculous.

Omg *facedesk. Really???? just wow

Jeremied - Sanctuary · September 2012

Nimithielle - Sanctuary wrote: »

I wasn't actually in the squad in question, but hearing someone ask on worldchat for people with 5+ refined weapons for BH29 was ridiculous.

b:shocked Whaaaaaaaat.

StarianNight - Dreamweaver · September 2012

This happened in a BH Snake team. A veno told me that passing chi is optional just like BB is optional when 3 members of the team are sins with 5-6.5k hp. Apparently passing chi isn't part of a veno's job? Well, if my genie is recovering from me using cloud eruption, can't I get a chi pass? Especially when the veno is the one who pulled in the wrong way and the runner sealed me b:surrender. Is it bad of me to not want to waste my genie's chi when we have a nice veno in team? And if a veno doesn't pass chi....than she isn't playing her character to its maximum capability.

It's not as if it's a caster run where I would want everyone to deal as much damage as possible, so I always use genie and apo b:surrender

BluePassion - Lost City · September 2012

*Me answering to a call for help with BH39 on 97 cleric*
Me: Alrighty. Lets get this done~
*He goes to invite 3 more people. All 100+*
Me: . . . Yo 'sup.
*He leaves. Leaving me in BH39 with 3 100+ sins and an awkward silence*

I PM him and ask what's wrong, to which he replies, "Too many high levels, I feel scared."

DDDAAAAAAAFFFUUUURRRRQ.b:cry

Also, those pot beggars. I don't even have enough to fix my gear, and I spark for MP!b:shutupb:shocked

VenusArmani - Dreamweaver · September 2012

bluepassion - Lost City wrote: »

*me Answering To A Call For Bh39 Help On 97 Cleric*
Me: Alrighty. Lets Get This Done~
*he Goes To Invite 3 More People. All 100+*
Me: . . . Yo 'sup.
*he Leaves. Leaving Me In Bh39 With 3 100+ Sins And An Awkward Silence*

I Pm Him And Ask What's Wrong, To Which He Replies, "too Many High Levels, I Feel Scared."

Lmao!

XMickie - Sanctuary · September 2012

FCC:

"We are glitching FCC bubble boss" - 90+ squad, as a matter of fact, 100 squads with +3 4aps sins as well...

"We are glitching" - squad with CLERIC & MYSTIC.

"Mystics dont have purify, so we glitch" "Mystics can't keep squad alive during mob pull (exp room)" -FCC glitched/power lvld noobs.

"BMs should pull boss rather than a magic class because casters hit harder at that lvl" -Certain bm what thinks he knows it all.

"You are doing the healing, Im DDing" -Cleric with 6k mp, while me being mystic has 9k mp... (also happened in bh69...)

Me (mystic) to barb pulling mobs but only atks one: Agro them please. "NO CLERIC, I NEED CLERIC, I DIE W.O CLERIC" .... then he ragequit because I won't heal him since he wont agro mobs.

Since in 90s, I stop wanting to glitch boss so I specifically told the sin "DONT ACT THE BOSS, unless you are going to solo the mobs." -sin stealths to npc, starts the boss, afks leaving everyone to finish clearing hall... what. the. **.

this one is from hubby:
barb starts head and started pulling mobs, squad wiped, heads all gone when everyone is back...

---

General

"Can you please buff us/me?" -ignores- "Buff us please" -ignores-
-facepalm-

"We don't need cleric/heals in vana" -sins/bm/aps squad, -dies and ask for rez- lol?

barb/tank runs straight to BB w.o agroing ANY mobs... Especially Metal and then ask why arent you BBing...

Randomly say in the middle of low lvl bhs... "I have a 101 ______ (class)" ...I care because?

"Can someone give me some coins, I have no coins to tele into cave" .......

"WHY ARE U FKING PEOPLE NOT WAITING FOR THE CLERIC???" "IM GOING TO LEAVE YOU MOFOS" -Cleric, in a cleared bh79. The path was all cleared by us w.o any heals and was waiting for her at boss. PS, I was on veno at time, I solo all the time cuz my pet can tank, I offered FREE wine, invited people cuz I'm nice, I'm taking ur **** why?

WAY too many things...

Kavannas - Archosaur · September 2012

-We need a cleric! (BH 39 with 101 sin)

-Flesh Ream is only level one (BH 51 with a wizard and two assassins)

-Asking for revives/buffs the instant they go down/get up.

-People that discount certain classes for BH/FC runs (ONLY Sin/Seeker etc). I ran an FC with three Venos and no assassins and it was one of the better I was in

I have a few more, but can't think of them atm.

Narcillatrix - Dreamweaver · September 2012

XMickie - Sanctuary wrote: »

barb/tank runs straight to BB w.o agroing ANY mobs... Especially Metal and then ask why arent you BBing...

Randomly say in the middle of low lvl bhs... "I have a 101 ______ (class)" ...I care because?

"Can someone give me some coins, I have no coins to tele into cave" .......

^- YES THIS!
ESPECIALLY with randomly in the middle of a lower bh someone just feels like announcing their higher level chars. Seriously...I don't care...If I did, I would have asked. -.-;

Oliiander - Lost City · September 2012

I'm back with more~ (God, wonder what this says about my personalityb:shocked)

*On seeker in 8x frost squad, right before a pull - Acting as tank*
I know how the aggro war between a wizzy and an archer will work out for the poor cleric, so I ask for a stack of IH before we go. I am hit with "I have a 10x ep, I know what to do." Okay, that's fine, I should be able to keep alive with both genie and some pots.

*20 seconds later*

Genie is in cooldown, so are pots, bp isn't doing much, holding all aggro. Looking to cleric for heals . . . . Chromatic Healing Beam.b:surrender
Subsequent squad wipe, I get dissed for being a **** seeker. (Which I am, with HH70 and Rank 4 leggings, full sharded and +2 or so, but still. Bad gear is bad gear. But still not entirely my fault QQ)

Colum - Raging Tide · September 2012

" We cant do Bishop boss "

- 75-85 FC squad.

BluePassion - Lost City · September 2012

Colum - Raging Tide wrote: »

" We cant do Bishop boss "

- 75-85 FC squad.

^This

Jacerai - Dreamweaver · September 2012

Colum - Raging Tide wrote: »

" We cant do Bishop boss "

- 75-85 FC squad.

I just finished a 78-88 run on my archer where the other archer was "pure fists" (didn't use her bow for anything but the harpie and Screamer, said she didn't need to).
The squad was such: seeker, cleric, barb new to tanking FC (I'm fine with this, since he said so from the beginning and was happy to learn), a lagging sin (also fine with this, lag happens), that derpy archer, and me (on an 88 archer).
Needless to say, Bishop boss was hard, but doable.
And there were multiple deaths on Bubble.
Screamer was funny, though. Everyone died but the cleric and I at one point. Weee!

MasterPerian - Lost City · September 2012

I don't want them saying "OH **** YOU BOOTED MY FRIEND NOW IM LEAVING SQUAD TOO!" Its really annoying although i don't make a fuss about it or usually its never my idea to boot people. However don't get me wrong depending on the situation I have no problem booting strangers. Its just rather annoying when people leave squads because their friend doesn't fit the best potential requirement that the squad is looking for.

b:angry

OIdpop - Heavens Tear · September 2012

being in a squad with half the squad in morai gear in a metal bh,then them complaining that they die,then i die since they cant do any damn real dmg what so ever.

BluePassion - Lost City · September 2012

9x DD with hh60 wep.
"I'm waiting for 101 for r9"
*Derpface*

Same person:
"Why do I need a better wep?"

Ended up giving her my 89 backup wep in case of wep shatter. I miss my immac shards
b:cryb:surrender

Vanflyheight - Heavens Tear · September 2012

whts wrong with clerics in particular and players basically? i just had a whole squad bail on me all cause this fail cleric was doin group heals instead of BBing at pyro. plus last time i was in squad with this cleric, she nearly caused a squad wipe due to her inability to knw how to handle a 69 run. then this seeker who said who was i to kick someone playing their own toon.

first off, she was group healing which is a sign of being a fail

2. most clerics know to bb or IH the tank, and also purify at nob and or pole.

3. its not another persons toon to knw how to play the class. its the one who controls it is the one who should knw how to play it.

Liske - Lost City · September 2012

Caster Nirvana:

Full R9 mysic +10 or so in squad, her pet takes agro and then the pet goes in slap mode. The boss starts moving away from the pet into the wall. I ask the mystic to call back th epet. The mystic, owner of the pet, starts yelling: DON'T PUSH BACK BOSS. I patiently and politely explain that you can't push back pet and that her pet got agro, thats why boss moves away. I even use Bramble Tornado to show her it doesn't work.
Boss drops chests inside the wall, we loose one.

Last boss in caster nirvana, same mystic, pet gets agro again, goes slap mode, boss moves away, into the wall and resets. Mystic yells AGAIN: DON'T PUSH BACK BOSS.

b:shutup

ponyduck · September 2012

Vanflyheight - Heavens Tear wrote: »

whts wrong with clerics in particular and players basically? i just had a whole squad bail on me all cause this fail cleric was doin group heals instead of BBing at pyro. plus last time i was in squad with this cleric, she nearly caused a squad wipe due to her inability to knw how to handle a 69 run. then this seeker who said who was i to kick someone playing their own toon.

first off, she was group healing which is a sign of being a fail

2. most clerics know to bb or IH the tank, and also purify at nob and or pole.

3. its not another persons toon to knw how to play the class. its the one who controls it is the one who should knw how to play it.

Although the cleric in ur squad may not have been the best in her skill
use, I wouldn't necessarily call her fail since you did manage to get
thru the run without a wipe. Maybe players who seem "fail" are still
learning.

That's what made the early game so much more fun--NOBODY knew
ANYTHING, there were no uber-geared high levels, few alts. You were
lucky if you got in a squad where another member was already familiar
with the mobs/bosses, and could tell you what was gonna happen.

It seems incredible now, but we went into instances EXPECTING to be
wiped a few times until we got the hang of it. Was no big deal. It was
fun, we laughed till we cried sometimes.

Back on-topic: thinking about how the dynamics of the game have
changed, it wouldn't be a bad idea to beef up the clerics' group heal,
since the days of single-player retaining aggro seem to be gone.

VenusArmani - Dreamweaver · September 2012

Vanflyheight - Heavens Tear wrote: »

whts wrong with clerics in particular and players basically? i just had a whole squad bail on me all cause this fail cleric was doin group heals instead of BBing at pyro. plus last time i was in squad with this cleric, she nearly caused a squad wipe due to her inability to knw how to handle a 69 run. then this seeker who said who was i to kick someone playing their own toon.

first off, she was group healing which is a sign of being a fail

2. most clerics know to bb or IH the tank, and also purify at nob and or pole.

3. its not another persons toon to knw how to play the class. its the one who controls it is the one who should knw how to play it.

You shouldn't need BB at pyro. I usually do bb because it works fine and is safer but, it shouldn't be a necessity. Likely its a case of the cleric's weapon not being where it should be.

Reliea - Sanctuary · September 2012

Vanflyheight - Heavens Tear wrote: »

whts wrong with clerics in particular and players basically? i just had a whole squad bail on me all cause this fail cleric was doin group heals instead of BBing at pyro. plus last time i was in squad with this cleric, she nearly caused a squad wipe due to her inability to knw how to handle a 69 run. then this seeker who said who was i to kick someone playing their own toon.

first off, she was group healing which is a sign of being a fail

2. most clerics know to bb or IH the tank, and also purify at nob and or pole.

3. its not another persons toon to knw how to play the class. its the one who controls it is the one who should knw how to play it.

what is wrong with players dissing clerics for no good reason.
BB is not the end-all-be-all of healing, easier sometimes yes, but not hardly necessary as much as people appear to think.

First off, group healing is definitely not a sign of being a fail. Thinking that group heal is a sign of being a fail is for sure a sign of being a fail.
Let me tell you something which is more a sign of being a fail - not knowing how to control your DD, or not knowing how to hold aggro, is much more a sign of being a fail than a cleric not being able to keep you alive.
When I die, I blame myself for not keeping my damage under control, before I blame anyone for 'not' keeping me alive. If ya can't take the damage, don't tank, and if you can take the damage, do your darndest to keep the aggro. Healing is not an easy job, especially when you get blamed constantly for failures that are not actually your failures, but the failures of people to work as teams, instead of individuals with random support.

From what you said it sounded like you kicked the cleric, I hope you didn't.

Vanflyheight - Heavens Tear · September 2012

Reliea - Sanctuary wrote: »

what is wrong with players dissing clerics for no good reason.
BB is not the end-all-be-all of healing, easier sometimes yes, but not hardly necessary as much as people appear to think.

First off, group healing is definitely not a sign of being a fail. Thinking that group heal is a sign of being a fail is for sure a sign of being a fail.
Let me tell you something which is more a sign of being a fail - not knowing how to control your DD, or not knowing how to hold aggro, is much more a sign of being a fail than a cleric not being able to keep you alive.
When I die, I blame myself for not keeping my damage under control, before I blame anyone for 'not' keeping me alive. If ya can't take the damage, don't tank, and if you can take the damage, do your darndest to keep the aggro. Healing is not an easy job, especially when you get blamed constantly for failures that are not actually your failures, but the failures of people to work as teams, instead of individuals with random support.

From what you said it sounded like you kicked the cleric, I hope you didn't.

yes i did kick the cleric twice, plus doing group heals isn't necessary for a good cleric to do while having a barb take the full force of the boss which he is tanking. plus if you have seen really good barbs, you'll know that alot of em have over 15k hp close to bout 20k if they are geared right. so in this case, a measly CHB (group heal) isn't going to cut it specially if it was nob or pole. this cleric was doing nothing but doing group heals which takes 3.5 secs to channel less ya got channel bonuses which this cleric had very little of. 2nd off the first time i was in squad with this cleric, i didn't know what they were like so i kept a close watch to see what they would do. even though everything went fine with pyro, the real trouble went with nob and pole. the cleric was standing too close to nob/poles aoes doing again nothing except group heals. didn't purify the tank, didn't IH the tank mainly which all clerics know and do in any and all squads or runs. 3rd is that after i kicked this cleric, the rest of the squad just bailed and left squad for reasons or reasons unknown. anyone who says that each person should play the way the want. from my experience of being a cleric and watching em work or any class for that matter, Never say they can do their class and work their class their own way. that will set them up for total disaster in each and every squad they join to which they cant find a squad for since most players do not want to squad with a cleric that doesn't think or consider the safety of the squad. it is their duty as a cleric and healer to keep their fellow squad mates alive. so if you want to consider priorities when clericing, here's how it should go mostly.

Tank- heals first
Cleric- themselves
DDs- rest of the squad

that is the basic protocol or standard of clericing less you have a couple of dipsos that want to rush ahead of the squad, die and end up blaming the cleric for something that was their own fault for doing. normally any and all DDs should learn to control their agro yes this i'll agree on, and bbing at pyro isn't needed either since Ih combined with other heal skills can keep the tank alive which i can also agree with. But having a cleric just simply do group heal without purifying or stacking Ih on the tank is pure stupidity. less there's an aoe that requires the cleric to group heal, that should be the only time to use group heal. So in conclusion, any and all players who like playing a cleric should and need to learn this. As for the DDs, if they aren't the tank then they shouldn't be taking agro period. Any DD can learn to control their agro if they need or have to.

VenusArmani - Dreamweaver · September 2012

Vanflyheight - Heavens Tear wrote: »

normally any and all DDs should learn to control their agro yes this i'll agree on, and bbing at pyro isn't needed either since Ih combined with other heal skills can keep the tank alive which i can also agree with. But having a cleric just simply do group heal without purifying or stacking Ih on the tank is pure stupidity. less there's an aoe that requires the cleric to group heal, that should be the only time to use group heal. So in conclusion, any and all players who like playing a cleric should and need to learn this. As for the DDs, if they aren't the tank then they shouldn't be taking agro period. Any DD can learn to control their agro if they need or have to.

This I can agree with. But many people do rage if you don't BB at pyro, like it's necessary. Or think that using group heal (even if it's the way its intended to be used) is fail. As if, BB is the solution to everything. Which is completely and totally false, and which is the stance it sounded like you were taking in your first post.

Not bbing at pyro isn't fail. And anyone who says otherwise, probably sucks themselves.

Using group heal isn't fail. And anyone who says otherwise, probably sucks themselves.

Using group heal when only person is taking damage is fail.

Using group heal as your primary heal is fail.

Not purifying at bosses like pole/nob is fail.

Colum - Raging Tide · September 2012

Group healing IS fail at non-AoE boss unless 3 or more people go aggro ping pong.

If it's just a battle between 2 persons, no group heal is needed.

How to deal with these aggro pingpongers ->

1. IH the excepted tank -> IH for sure the strongest DD who has chances to get aggro -> keep IHing both if the strongest DD gets aggro
2. IH tank, wellspring ready for the aggro stealer, then IH him/her if tank hasnt got aggro back
3. BB

Enough said.

Vanflyheight - Heavens Tear · September 2012

VenusArmani - Dreamweaver wrote: »

This I can agree with. But many people do rage if you don't BB at pyro, like it's necessary. Or think that using group heal (even if it's the way its intended to be used) is fail. As if, BB is the solution to everything. Which is completely and totally false, and which is the stance it sounded like you were taking in your first post.

Not bbing at pyro isn't fail. And anyone who says otherwise, probably sucks themselves.

Using group heal isn't fail. And anyone who says otherwise, probably sucks themselves.

Using group heal when only person is taking damage is fail.

Using group heal as your primary heal is fail.

Not purifying at bosses like pole/nob is fail.

yeah the cleric was using group heal as the primary heal at pyro, nob and pole. plus even when i first squad ed with em and we got to pole/nob, all she did was group heal after i kept saying in squad chat to IH the tank like bout twice. like i said earlier, it was as if she was reading what i said as if it was off a manual. We all learn something new all the time venus, and i know i"m one of em. Guess its what im used to when it comes to pyro since I see mostly every cleric do BB.

Colum - Raging Tide wrote: »

Group healing IS fail at non-AoE boss unless 3 or more people go aggro ping pong.

If it's just a battle between 2 persons, no group heal is needed.

How to deal with these aggro pingpongers ->

1. IH the excepted tank -> IH for sure the strongest DD who has chances to get aggro -> keep IHing both if the strongest DD gets aggro
2. IH tank, wellspring ready for the aggro stealer, then IH him/her if tank hasnt got aggro back
3. BB

Enough said.

no, the barb had complete agro and far as i can recall there was no agro bouncing between the tank and DDs. so group heal shouldn't of been used at all.

After the whole squad bailed, it took us a while to re find a full squad to finish up nob and pole. But we did finish it with just 5 of us. (the new squad that was made after) after all that, i ended up switchin to my own cleric for another 69 run to help the 2nd previous cleric who needed it on her veno. it was just the 4 of us but we did the whole run and it went smoothly. while i was on my cleric i had a talk to the leader of the faction which this fail cleric was in. the leader had said to me that all she did was catshop and do bh runs. some fun huh? that should be qualified as the worst way of playing a game.

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