PvP in Secret Passage is now 100% allowed!

JetRaiden - Raging Tide · September 2011

Almon - Lost City wrote: »

So you chose a PvE server because you can't handle being killed by other players. That's your problem... Words can't even describe how little I care. Plenty of ways around you getting killed while doing your quests. Your drama over this is pointless and rather pathetic.

Yes, I'm sure a majority of the people on the PvE server chose to be there because they don't want to deal with PvP. I mean why else would they give us separate PvE servers and PvP servers in the first place? It doesn't make us pathetic, the point of a game is to have fun and different people have fun in different ways. You want to PvP that's fine, but there are people that don't share the same viewpoint.

Okeano - Harshlands · September 2011

Here's food for thought.

SP use to be a very popular PK place on PvP servers before they made it "ban-able". Yet people on PvP server got their Silverfrost done fine.

Zoe - Heavens Tear · September 2011

Okeano - Harshlands wrote: »

Here's food for thought.

SP use to be a very popular PK place on PvP servers before they made it "ban-able". Yet people on PvP server got their Silverfrost done fine.

If I recall correctly (and I may not) it became bannable to pk in there before silverfrost was even needed for any quests. The quest to kill him could not be acquired until after the first expansion.

Chadric - Heavens Tear · September 2011

Lol Okeano that's the second time u posted in here adn the second time u were made to look ... well like a idiot. I'd stop talking..... and ya Zoe's right btw. I'm sure it WAS easy to get stuff done in there since it was ALREADY bannable by then. Course the GM's couldn't get ***** straight from then on and kept going back and forth on it till now (where they're trying to cover up the dev's f'up.)

And with that last point, i'd like to copy a post i made in a nother thread in case some of u dont' really know HOW this happened.

"I gues you didnt' actually bother reading that post in the thread u mention. I'll clear this up for you. THE DEVS ARE F"ING IDIOTS. Those 2 rooms were for the WORLD TOURNY. they SCREWED up the coding, making the ENTIRE SP PK'ed enabled. Now remember we get updates later then they do over there, and also remember the tourney wasnt' long ago (a month... maybe?). And remember the tourney was in china.

So here's what happened..... They updated their chinese version to have the tourney rooms, f'ing up SP in the process. A month later we get the coding that changed that, and instead of FIXING IT, they go "Pk's now allowed in SP again, cept now EVERYONE"S targetable... adn Frack you if you actualyl want to play the game and not go into PK mode. Quests? You dont' need to bother doing those anymore.... just give us money and buy heads to get 100"......

ya......... I'm seriously considering never spending another dime on this game (i only spent 10 bucks a month but hey... and i've been playing for like 3 years now...... cept that one year break). I've seen so much b.s., so much stupidity (comign from their end), but this takes the cake..... a GM basically TELLING US F.U., you dont' need to play the actual game anymore, we're not letting you do your quests. I have NEVER seen anything like this in my life!"

CursedSword - Raging Tide · September 2011

making PVP zones on a PVE server is just the same as going against most of the players on that servers wishes, therefor, when they make a zone like that they just ensure that they loose players aswell as gold buyers, therefor PWE developers are complete idiots, the reason why most ( not all ) people that play on a PVE server chose to start on a PVE server is because they prefer to be able to do things without getting killed over and over again, yes, I agree, PVP can be fun from time to time, but I chose a pve server because I don't want to be forced in pvp, I prefer to choose when I go into pvp, and by making a zone that is used a lot a pvp zone, they basically force the pvp on everybody, I am sure that if this does not get changed back that quite a few people will stop playing PWE games and switch to games that actually have their rules set the way it should, NO PVP on PVE servers unless in zones that are ONLY for pvp ( such as arena's and pvp nevent zones ) if they would make an arena for PVP ( all servers ) then I am sure that those that wish to pvp will go there with the occasional lowbie that is just exploring, but if the entrance to that zone is an npc for example, and there still is a "safe zone" in the arena ( where people come when they teleport in ) then they can also make the people that died respawn right there so no need to run back in ... I do know that, if SP does not change to a non-pvp zone again on pve servers that I will probably switch to a non-pwe game, and for pwe that would be a loss of gold buyer because before I found out about this pvp allowed sp I was planning to buy gold, but since they did that, I won't

Ellisandro - Archosaur · September 2011

_evil_angel - Heavens Tear wrote: »

I love the new SP, its great. People get caught in the crossfire and come back QQin to me so i kill them again. This is the best game ever, keep it up Devs. Im sure all of pwe love you.

if this was my game, you would be permo-banned.. oh, wait. you would never be able to chicken**** bully others ingame if it was my game..

anyway, very cool and impressive cheating your character up then spending your days killing players up to 80 levels lower.. you parents must be very proud :P

Zoe - Heavens Tear · September 2011

Ellisandro - Archosaur wrote: »

if this was my game, you would be permo-banned.. oh, wait. you would never be able to chicken**** bully others ingame if it was my game..

I like your game already.b:victory

Chadric - Heavens Tear · September 2011

Ellisandro - Archosaur wrote: »

if this was my game, you would be permo-banned.. oh, wait. you would never be able to chicken**** bully others ingame if it was my game..

anyway, very cool and impressive cheating your character up then spending your days killing players up to 80 levels lower.. you parents must be very proud :P

Lol according to Evil she's been banned 20 TIMES already...... o ya but she's spent 500K (yes five hundred THOUSAND) on this game, of course PWE won't perma ban the people that pay a year's worth of salaries for the total of 5 college drop outs they have working there.

And ya Evil's one of the people griefing people in SP's entrance. O gee another shocker, (last night anyway), EVERYONE else griefing were from enrage as well.

Ellisandro - Archosaur · September 2011

Okeano - Harshlands wrote: »

Here's food for thought.

SP use to be a very popular PK place on PvP servers before they made it "ban-able". Yet people on PvP server got their Silverfrost done fine.

bullies don't want to be stalked by pissed off players. here they just go or stay blue named and can't be 'touched' anywhere but in that little dungeon.

the high-levels ganking in there are often blue-named. they're too inept and scared to play real pvp. on the pvp servers, they would have to watch out for actual pvp'ers bent on revenge from their own experiences in there. or from a friend or faction member's.

why do you think they're killing players up to 80 levels lower than them??

FatalFem - Heavens Tear · September 2011

Okeano - Harshlands wrote: »

Here's food for thought.

SP use to be a very popular PK place on PvP servers before they made it "ban-able". Yet people on PvP server got their Silverfrost done fine.

Here is food for thought, on a PVE server blue names couldn't be touched. So we don't care what PvP servers could or could not do.. we don't want to be forced to pk for any reason. Thus why we chose a PVE server. Do you guys get that yet?

chaoticshelly · September 2011

I'm not sure if you've been updated, but I know for fact that PWE has complied a list of complaints and is going to pass it on to the Chinese team for review. They will work to make the appropriate changes and will keep you updated as soon as something comes up.

Your complaints are being heard, and our team of moderators is doing its best to make sure of it.

Ellisandro - Archosaur · September 2011

ChaoticShelly wrote: »

I'm not sure if you've been updated, but I know for fact that PWE has complied a list of complaints and is going to pass it on to the Chinese team for review. They will work to make the appropriate changes and will keep you updated as soon as something comes up.

Your complaints are being heard, and our team of moderators is doing its best to make sure of it.

*hugs

b:heartb:flower

BaldwinBoy - Dreamweaver · September 2011

The mods are doing great but forgive me as i add "something comes up" to "in the works" and "coming soon" b:laugh

XDracona - Heavens Tear · September 2011

If you haven't already, please vote on the 2 polls in my sig below(botton link is up to 98 votes for strongly opposed). b:thanks

Ellisandro - Archosaur · September 2011

BaldwinBoy - Dreamweaver wrote: »

The mods are doing great but forgive me as i add "something comes up" to "in the works" and "coming soon" b:laugh

the mods could have handled this a lot worse. deleting posts and threads, or closing thread after thread.. instead they have allowed hundreds in this thread, have stayed calm when people get upset and sometimes abusive, and stay present to let us know as much as they can.

thumbs up, imo. and ty to them for going the extra mile b:thanks

Allisandre - Sanctuary · September 2011

ChaoticShelly wrote: »

I'm not sure if you've been updated, but I know for fact that PWE has complied a list of complaints and is going to pass it on to the Chinese team for review. They will work to make the appropriate changes and will keep you updated as soon as something comes up.

Your complaints are being heard, and our team of moderators is doing its best to make sure of it.

I would love to see this list. I would also like to see the response for each complaint.

Maiira - Sanctuary · September 2011

for all the ppl who say that we should stop QQing... the point is we are on a PvE server cause we dont want to be forced to participate in it all the time. making an area that lowbies who think they are safe go into and get killed it not appropriate. if this wants to be set up do it for PvP servers only. tired of seeing 2 assassins sitting in secret passage for the past 4 hours farming kills.

chaoticshelly · September 2011

Allisandre - Sanctuary wrote: »

I would love to see this list. I would also like to see the response for each complaint.

It's highly unlikely you will be able to, however they will post an update about these issues as soon as possible. Frankie has mentioned it earlier in this topic.

b:thanks

Barber - Heavens Tear · September 2011

welp i dont know about the other servers but as far as Heavens Tear goes id say as much as 90% of the member dont give a flying fruit loop for PVP....heck most even dont do the stupid events because they are PVP based

half the events you guys come up with people arent doing because of the PVP aspect of them

you need to listen to the members instead of coming up with all the PVP ****

Zoe - Heavens Tear · September 2011

ChaoticShelly wrote: »

It's highly unlikely you will be able to, however they will post an update about these issues as soon as possible. Frankie has mentioned it earlier in this topic.

b:thanks

Things like that are one of the problems. We all know there are things they can't show the players, that's understandable, but I myself, don't see this as one of those things and I'm sure most of us feel the same way.

Maiira - Sanctuary · September 2011

lawl person wastes 70k to use ironguard to get past the pkers farming kills, then gets hunted down in the instance >.>

unohu · September 2011

WORST DECISION EVER!!!

Many many players go PVE to avoid the kids with epeens on PVP servers - so why are PVE ppl now FORCED to put up with it????

Most of the ppl on PVP servers who DON'T PK (the majority) arent even happy with this so why on earth would the devs think PVE ppl would be??

Crazy Crazy Crazy

Pressa - Heavens Tear · September 2011

Selak - Dreamweaver wrote: »

True ignorance is someone who tells others what is good for them without listerning to those who have been there done that and chosen a different path because of personal beliefs.

In the society that i live in we are bought up to believe killing is not fun and i do not WANT to even practice thinking it is, killing may be acceptable/encouraged in your society if so your people should roll a PvP server.

Ask yourself this question does he have the right to enter my place and tell me what is good for me without asking me what i want or believe.

Where i come from the answer is NO.

Quite frankly all beliefs are in question even my own then again I prefer to take the middle ground and usually have middle ground beliefs. Not of course saying my beliefs are as such more important then your own simply that I can see both sides and feel both emotions for them. But quite frankly its not killing do you kill in paintball? Do you kill in dodge ball? Its the same difference if you go about saying that any society ever has ever not thrown anything at someone and called it a game then you are sorely mistaken. Whats different in PvP? The titles? You killed this person ............its not actually killing they feel no pain they have no fear of death short of what a person feels when he is outed in dodge ball. But I'm sure a smart player such as yourself would have made that connection.

I know what the carebears believe the people who don't want PvP anywhere at all and btw again thats who I am freakin talking about the people who are so set in their ways they do not wish to have the option to play a interesting part of the game. I also know what the griefers believe and they are also mistaken though a lot few if any people actually believe its a completely good location.

Once again its a bad location its a good concept A for effort C for execution..... No one is telling you you have to do something yes they screwed up putting it right there but this does need to be in the game though from one entrance is stupid.

There is also a reason I suggest what I do because I have been there and done that and I choose to allow everything in and not forsake things simply because their name is similar to something I hate.

Storm_Tide - Harshlands · September 2011

This is bullshurt. There are plenty of places high levels go that could be turned into a PVP Arena...hmmm, PVP Arena. This sounds familiar. How about opening up the PVP Arenas - free to enter and participate - full contact PVP.

I'm totally getting fed up with the stupid decisions made by the developers of this game. No respect for newbies to the game. No respect for those who chose a PVE Server to avoid the requirement to PVP. Why even HAVE PVE servers and the ability to select PVE/PVP mode on those servers.

You want to do something that REALLY makes sense?

a. Make PVE servers PURE PVE. NO PVP anywhere at any time.
b. Make PVP servers PURE PVP. ALL PVP - ALL the time.

This respects the desires of all people as you can have characters on both kinds of servers.

VenusArmani - Dreamweaver · September 2011

ChaoticShelly wrote: »

It's highly unlikely you will be able to, however they will post an update about these issues as soon as possible. Frankie has mentioned it earlier in this topic.

b:thanks

I know we wouldn't be able to see the responses from China, but is there anyway we can get a copy of the list to make sure nothing is being missed? It was pulled from the forums anyway.

So far I think these are the main complaints:

1) PWI needs a free PVP area

2) SP is the worst area for free PVP due to

  (a) Griefers camping low levels
  (b) PvP protected players even on PVP servers (level 1-29) are being camped
  (c) People can't complete their silver frost culti
  (d) People can't get their divine honors 
  (e) People can't get their other quests done including Shade Eido, Demonfires, and Dismal Shade
  (f) The User Interface still tells players that they cannot be PKed from level 1-29 which isn't true
3) Proposed solutions
  (a) Reopen the Arena
  (b) Move it to Cave of Sadistic Glee with modified aggression so they don't attack unless being attacked

Chadric - Heavens Tear · September 2011

sorry storm.... but those suggestions would take too much brainpower..............

Leucotheia - Sanctuary · September 2011

*looks at whiskey bottle*...*looks at the blatant peen stroking, loving oneself, covering up one's self-consciousness and other psychological **** that I don't feel like typing* Hm. *tears up* But where did all the booze go? Q_Q Want to know my opinion? I think it's quite stupid. PvE players should be able to enjoy their experience without some **** attacking them and killing them and sending them back to the entrance for them to do all over again. I know if some neck beard loser with an over-inflated ego and a side dish of severe self-consciousness PKed my husband, either of my friends, or myself while killing Silverfrost I would say:"**** it, I might be a level 92 cleric and my vows were to keep people well, but I'm not putting up with this ****. Bring it!" and then I'd wield thunder some poor BM or fish stick to death and perhaps serve up some Barb-B-Q if I so desire." then I'd come in as my wizard and wipe out what remains. I might get killed, but I'd be vastly satisfied to see a corpse disappearing in front of my eyes as I'm falling down dead, especially a red name. God, that would be awesome. Ok, was a bit off tangent, but I think I may have gotten point across...I hope. *drinks some more and walks out of the room*...*runs into wall* F@#@!

Okeano - Harshlands · September 2011

Zoe - Heavens Tear wrote: »

If I recall correctly (and I may not) it became bannable to pk in there before silverfrost was even needed for any quests. The quest to kill him could not be acquired until after the first expansion.

Chadric - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Stuff

You do not recall correctly. Wraith Ploy was there long before PK anywhere was banable.

FatalFem - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Here is food for thought, on a PVE server blue names couldn't be touched. So we don't care what PvP servers could or could not do.. we don't want to be forced to pk for any reason. Thus why we chose a PVE server. Do you guys get that yet?

You guys are missing the point. 1-30 doesn't need to be in SP, that's established. Most of the QQ are about Silverfrost. On PvP server, people high enough that need Silverfrost can be PKed. If people on PvP server got that boss done fine, despite they can be killed in SP, what's the problem with 8X-10X blue names on PvE server?

Chadric - Heavens Tear · September 2011

ugh whatever i never knew when Wraith's ploy was in the game... All i saw was you being wrong again.

And btw you're missing the point, not us. If you dont' get why EVERYONE (save a few, literally like 1/00 people) is PISSED OFF about this after 57 pages..... ya need more help then i thought.

Maiira - Sanctuary · September 2011

the chinese ppl dont determine what the bannable offences are. it was bannable, but now it isnt... just make it bannable again... now in my 5th death attempt trying to get wheel of earth on seeker. pwi just likes to make people want to quit their game and not recommend it to others. i think they find it enjoyable to see how many people they can drive away and still make a profit.

PvP in Secret Passage is now 100% allowed!

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