Let's talk FC glitch (read first)

I've noticed a huge lack in banning with a lot of stuff lately in PWI, not just the frost glitching. It's like they are afraid to ban now or are just to lazy to bother with it. b:chuckle

Lack of action is akin to encouraging it.

It would be amusing if PWE implemented deleveling into this game. All those powerleveled toons who dont know jack about how to play would quickly level down.b:chuckle

Well, off to find a better MMORPG!b:bye

since alot of people have atleast 101 the main difference from the glitch is a 20 stat point increase. At level 100+ a couple of stat points arent going to make that much of a difference. Level basically is for being able to wear gear. Refines shards and the gear you have highly outweigh 20 stat points. Yes its true that they will be stronger but the difference is theyll survive half a hit more or theyll do half a percent more damage it really doesnt do to much except fr sins where the level helps with stealth.

Gryphyyn - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Lack of action is akin to encouraging it.

That's a bit different. If they were "encouraging" it, don't you think they'd make a news post or a sticky about how to do it? Or make a Hyper+Charm sale?

If anything, it's more like a silent acceptance. Like "It's all cool, we just have to say this because otherwise we'd be screwed".

It would be amusing if PWE implemented deleveling into this game. All those powerleveled toons who dont know jack about how to play would quickly level down.b:chuckle

I doubt on that. People are already selling spots to Dragoon squads. You could easily buy those until you're at 99% and level 104. At that point, you can die plenty.

Because damn it, losing 1 level everytime you die, that'd be harsh.

I have been in and watched other MMO's enter and perish in this death spiral that PWI has headed down. With every passing day, the actual mechanics of how the game works moves further and further away from what it advertises itself to be. An everyday you see fewer and fewer players. It doesn't happen overnight, it takes a few years. PWI is bliinded by all the cash people are throwing at them. It is not unusual for kids to spend $3K US just so they can on hit most everything in the game and play paper doll with thier toons. As long as they have one player around like that, they can afford to ignore the loss of several hundred new players each month.

This whole glitch mess is a carbon copy of problems in another MMO that is pretty much dead now. Several years ago, it developed a similar situation where power-levelers convinced the company to leave it for thier convenience, and effectively killed off the new player stream. The new players get killed off because they come in expecting what is advertised, but can't find anyone to team with at low to mid levels, because the only people still around are endgamers, rush to endgamer cash-shoppers, and their many alts. In the long run that population will not sustain the game.

So yea I am QQing for the game they still sell on the tin, but no longer exists. No one plays mid game anymore. No one plays early game anymore. The only reason I think that I stick around is to smugly observe that I am right. I'll leave when the game population gets to the point that even Arch looks like Lost, which it is starting to on slow days.

And one more thing. There is no law that says multiplayer means you cant succeed solo. In real life plenty of people do it all the time. What sucks are Bosses or instances where no amount of skill can overcome them. Too many are simple math calculations look at player stat, look at mob stat, best stat wins. Thats pretty lame and the first MMO that comes up with something closer to FPS boss dynamics where skill and not stats are the deciding factor, will make a mint. The problem with forced teaming and stat based Bosses is the game is reduced to begging or prostitution. Please help me kill x! Please help me complete Y. Please buff me so I can do X. I don't know about you but begging is never high on my list of activities. Or How much? How much do I have to pay you to complete Y. I much rather prefer lets do this together over I pay you.

So go ahead stay on this path.

For those who telling that 4-5 levels doesn't mean anything. The main benefit is not these 5 levels but the fact you are NOT loosing experience after lv. 105. So you can die without any penalty anytime. This is HUGE benefit to be lv. 105.

Dang Gryphyyn I hope the company you mean wasn't the competitor to PWI I worked for. Though, I didn't see you say bot infested.

What would be a pretty cool touch, frankie, as I iterated in the HT forums, is in those level 105 forum avatars if you could put a front-facing, smiling dragoon next to the player's avvy.

brazenbusboy wrote: »

I have been in and watched other MMO's enter and perish in this death spiral that PWI has headed down. With every passing day, the actual mechanics of how the game works moves further and further away from what it advertises itself to be. An everyday you see fewer and fewer players. It doesn't happen overnight, it takes a few years. PWI is bliinded by all the cash people are throwing at them. It is not unusual for kids to spend $3K US just so they can on hit most everything in the game and play paper doll with thier toons. As long as they have one player around like that, they can afford to ignore the loss of several hundred new players each month.

This whole glitch mess is a carbon copy of problems in another MMO that is pretty much dead now. Several years ago, it developed a similar situation where power-levelers convinced the company to leave it for thier convenience, and effectively killed off the new player stream. The new players get killed off because they come in expecting what is advertised, but can't find anyone to team with at low to mid levels, because the only people still around are endgamers, rush to endgamer cash-shoppers, and their many alts. In the long run that population will not sustain the game.

So yea I am QQing for the game they still sell on the tin, but no longer exists. No one plays mid game anymore. No one plays early game anymore. The only reason I think that I stick around is to smugly observe that I am right. I'll leave when the game population gets to the point that even Arch looks like Lost, which it is starting to on slow days.

And one more thing. There is no law that says multiplayer means you cant succeed solo. In real life plenty of people do it all the time. What sucks are Bosses or instances where no amount of skill can overcome them. Too many are simple math calculations look at player stat, look at mob stat, best stat wins. Thats pretty lame and the first MMO that comes up with something closer to FPS boss dynamics where skill and not stats are the deciding factor, will make a mint. The problem with forced teaming and stat based Bosses is the game is reduced to begging or prostitution. Please help me kill x! Please help me complete Y. Please buff me so I can do X. I don't know about you but begging is never high on my list of activities. Or How much? How much do I have to pay you to complete Y. I much rather prefer lets do this together over I pay you.

So go ahead stay on this path.

You should understand then that PWI is in fact doomed to repeat what it's fellow F2P developer/publisher fate. They begin with content, go for cash shop, solely at a quick buck, and aim at merging servers/shutting down once the marginal revenue inevitably goes down the toilet. That's why they follow short run economics so strictly, probably thinking with what I heard about no longer having the original developers, that they should milk the revenue they have now and aim at another title, which they've already done.

Tsukyini - Raging Tide wrote: »

. It's really just a short term suspension, and hey, after working those dragoons to 105, the players are probably grateful for an excuse to take a few days off. b:chuckle

I lol'd so hard, almost fell off my chair... b:laugh

JanusZeal - Heavens Tear wrote: »

That's why they follow short run economics so strictly, probably thinking with what I heard about no longer having the original developers, that they should milk the revenue they have now and aim at another title, which they've already done.

It's a shame too, because this is PWE's flagship franchise...it's like Nintendo bailing on the Mario titles because they're too damn lazy to think of games to stick him in. Hurp durp, PWE...

JanusZeal - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Dang Gryphyyn I hope the company you mean wasn't the competitor to PWI I worked for. Though, I didn't see you say bot infested.

What would be a pretty cool touch, frankie, as I iterated in the HT forums, is in those level 105 forum avatars if you could put a front-facing, smiling dragoon next to the player's avvy.



You should understand then that PWI is in fact doomed to repeat what it's fellow F2P developer/publisher fate. They begin with content, go for cash shop, solely at a quick buck, and aim at merging servers/shutting down once the marginal revenue inevitably goes down the toilet. That's why they follow short run economics so strictly, probably thinking with what I heard about no longer having the original developers, that they should milk the revenue they have now and aim at another title, which they've already done.

Nothing lasts forever you know. the game is here from solid 6-7 years (or more) its already a huge accomplishment. it will die ofcourse. then again who doesnt?:) u cannot expect a 10 years+ life for a game. there are new games every day, new mechanics, new graphics, new technolgies.
why am i wasting time explaining obviuos things.

JanusZeal - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Nothing lasts forever.. epic wisdom.

yes u cannot argue with that. u can only QQ, like most of the ppl in this forum

JanusZeal - Heavens Tear wrote: »

I see. Tell me more. I'm a sponge for information from such an intelligent source.

if im so obvoius why are there 95+ pages of B.S. on this topic?

specialy for u ill post this quote:

"I'll be more enthusiastic about encouraging thinking outside the box when there's evidence of any thinking going on inside it.

U tell me what source it is from, w/o using google.

P.S. pls dont tell me that im a troll ...

Deant - Raging Tide wrote: »

if im so obvoius why are there 95+ pages of B.S. on this topic?

specialy for u ill post this quote:

"I'll be more enthusiastic about encouraging thinking outside the box when there's evidence of any thinking going on inside it.

U tell me what source it is from, w/o using google.

P.S. pls dont tell me that im a troll ...

I don't know who it's from nor do I care. Quotes, aphorisms, sayings, whatever you want to call them, are for people who can't think for themselves.

Now, if perhaps the QQing evades you, it's because PW is threatening to ban people for exploiting a glitch while it's being rampantly exploited, and punishing everyone else by not implementing an owed 2x. I've iterated numerous times it doesn't bother me at all as I don't care how others level beyond pointing out hypocrites who complain about others glitching yet abuse it themselves, but common sense has it others might just be irritated for a good reason. OTOH, I don't think reading is one of your strong points.

Deant - Raging Tide wrote: »

maybe it is. im totaly ignoring BS talk. I say what i think. ppl dont like it. maybe what i tell is true, maybe not. usualy facts are getting smashed by the personal point of view.
my posts on this topic end here.
afterall this forum is for that: say what u want

You're spewing "BS talk". Do you get your education from FOX News or something? There's no wisdom at all in "nothing lasts forever" or "this is a forum you can say what you want". In none of your posts that I've read on this page have you even addressed the issue at hand, so why should anyone consider your nonsensical declarations and self-righteous babble worth a ****?

This game will die- Deant 3:16