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Woneo - Harshlands wrote: »

A ****ing mercedes benz

And seriously marc, buy us ****. .

Yeah Marc, you offered me free **** too! Where is it?!

Scarlet - Harshlands wrote: »

Uh, no? What made Zulu "Zulu" are the people in it. All 180~ish of it. Regardless of some of the officials not wanting it to be, Zulu was governed with democracy. Members deciding on who gets in, pleading for positions which gave birth to "WC officers", people volunteering and making a factor out of themselves, springing to "HH officers" and whatnot. THESE aspects are not what this "core" wanted, however they were there.

Right. Again, not arguing Catalyst and Zulu are the same; I'm arguing they ARE similar at times and similar in some ways. I'm arguing it's ridiculous to say people are stupid or childish for daring to compare the two when they have an assload of similarities. If I thought Cata and Zulu were the same, I probably wouldn't've willingly left Cata, ijs. It's quite clear I recognize the difference in attitude and leadership. (not meaning to insult either, they're just not for me)

40 is the number in total Catalyst had right after the migration of our "core" was complete. We're not politicians who promised that friendship built in time should be sacrificed "for the greater good and the enjoyment of all."

Never said you were. I said Catalyst only let those 40 in.

Sure, because Zulu thrived and prospered through only this group of people. Regardless of it being such an excessively implying over-statement, fine, let's put it that way to appease you. Is it such a crime that causes the death and withering of this server? If so, then wow, these people are so ****ing special.

Never said it didn't. If anything, I stressed the opposite. I made it clear that those 40 being the essential 40 was the opinion of the core, not my own. Which brings me to my point, which is I find it funny that you sit here pointing out that only 40 Catalyst are Ex-Zulu and 70% of Zulu is in Afterlife, yet you fail to mention that it was Catalyst's intention from the beginning to be that exclusive, 40 is still the vast majority of Catalyst, and Catalyst has the same people in charge, for the most part the same attitude, the same old habits and the very similar regulation. And then you sit there and accuse those of comparing Cata to Zulu of being childish demons who should be cleansed from the Earth.

So not only is it our "responsibility" to nurture and make everyone hop in for their gaming enjoyment, if we don't do so then we're scums and elitist jerks who cause this server to rot from the inside? When Catalyst was made, it's not like we closed our doors to begin with. Hency why, you for example, managed to be a Catalyst member, only you chose to leave. Taking that into account, are we really that selective that we chose to leave this odd 70% out to pick themselves up from dust? When Zulu was disbanded, or was on the brink of it, Riga managed to think of a faction called AfterLife and who will be in it way before we even thought of the name Catalyst.

Again, never said any of that. My point was I find it funny that you conveniently name those stats (the very stats Cata went out of their way to achieve) to distance Cata from Zulu while simply failing to mention all the other similarities.

So to make things "different", the way I see this is that we should all just call it quits and disregard our YEARS of knowing each other and playing the game together...just for the fun of it and perhaps make the entire server happy, ridding Harshlands of "another Zulu domination." Such martyrdom this server requires. Unfortunately we simply don't give a flying F.

You can do whatever you want, nor did I ask you all to seperate. But when you start saying "how dare you you accuse us of being in any way similar to Zulu, you worthless uneducated peon?!" when wtf, it's kinda clear the core is unwilling to divide and the "Zulu core" is gonna continue to be the administrative force behind Catalyst, then yeah. That's called having your cake and eating it too.

Pardon us for knowing what to do and actually playing the game. The knowledge that this "core" has is not " god's special gift." You, Longknife, for example, have this knowledge, people who play the game for what it is and what it should be. If only the rest will do the same rather than cashing out money and pretending like gods in the server, or spend majority of their time whining in world chat, or predicting the server's outcome without choosing to be a part of it, or blaming "Zulu" for their demise, then perhaps things will be different

Yep, can't disagree there. Speaking of wanting to have your cake and eat it too like the above point, I find it funny that people are plenty happy to whine about the Zulu core dominating and at the same time they expect to be able to just magically win without any extra effort or organization required. But whatever, some other group is bound to figure it out at some point.

Your opinion stopped mattering to me, the moment you allowed yourself to be part of the whining crew, and then making jumps from one contending faction to another, only to prove that your presence doesn't even make a dent of an impact to a war's outcome.

I find it sad that the moment I make even the slightest remark against Catalyst (in this case, I'm simply saying you're being flippin' ridiculous for freaking out on people for making a very justified comparison of Cata and Zulu), my opinion loses value for you. I thought it was supposed to be better if everyone was able to criticize both sides as they seem fit.
This is also why I left Catalyst: it's got a fair share of hateful dudes that are willing to stick a knife in your back the moment you do or say even the slightest thing that goes against their wishes. Apparently you're one of them, since as I recall, all I did was uhhh....disagree with you. Lolloololool no seriously, look at this. I just disagreed with you (to an EXTENT, not even completely) on how similar Zulu and Cata are, and what do you do? You needlessly insult my impact on TW and imply I'm worthless. Lol ok, love you too then.
For what it's worth, I always did think you were a condescending b**ch who didn't so much play the game but moreso lorded her opinion and supposed intellectual superiority around as if everyone who disagrees with you is obviously scum of the lowest level of intelligence. You always did seem to have a huge beef with the fact of life that sometimes, people have different opinions than you. Never said anything cause wtf that'd be rude and it'd cause drama, and because I've known avid debaters who always SEEMED overly-abrasive but were actually quite respectful, only seeming abrasive because they were so accustomed to intense debate and asserting their opinion. Though seeing as I'm not in Cata and I'm pretty sure no amount of assertiveness in a debate justifies a random *** insult like that...I think you're a ****, lolz.

Still rather not cause drama though, so I'm leaving this discussion right here and exiting stage left. Besides, I'm sure if I read your reply, it'd be something along the lines of "How DARE you undermine my authority, peasant! I wish to see my boots licked clean by tomorrow morning if you wish to be graced by my forgiveness!"