Some DQ System Changes (items added/removed)

Blancheneige - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Typical of PWI's lazyness. WHY NOT FIX THE BUG INSTEAD??????

charmblssm wrote: »

how embarrasing, pwi. b:beatenup

sintide wrote: »

i download the new patch.. but.. it doesnt work. and it say update file corrupted/... i download is plenty times. and still says that.. update corropted file... i need help.. please

Graey_Rain - Harshlands wrote: »

wow... what a massive mistake for the gms/devs/pwe to make yet again.
The ONLY reason DQ points were worth anything was because of the medals.
Now you've removed medals nobody cares if you can get some DQ points from the chests.
Now there's no medals nobody will bother grinding for dq items or buying dq points.
You realize that people sell dq points for 3-400 each? your jolly jones quest is way overpriced.
The trade and interest in medals ad DQ items was finally bringing back some open map play, lots of people grinding in heaven/hell/the desert etc. Which managed to bring back a bit of open map pvp in grind spots and rekindled a lot of interest in the game for a lot of people.
GG taking that away, causing more people to quit the game, and ****ing over your player base once again.

It's totally unfair to give a bunch of people the chance to grind their medals and then say to the rest of us that we can't anymore.
I've already got 6-7 medals from grinding DQ and I have about 50 thousand DQ points saved to spend on medals between mine and my brothers accounts. I seriously don't get what's so bad about having trade-able medals. If I want to farm medals and give them to my brother, without having to trade every single dq item i get onto his toon, what's so wrong with that? No body buys them anyway because it's waaay cheaper to just buy DQ items off people and sell them, then use the DQ point page to get your own medals. Seriously, there were loads of people trying to sell medals for 10mil+ in catshops on HL NOBODY bought them. You can buy enough DQ items to sell for 1 medal for like 7mil, then make 2-3mil back selling them to npcs, so it's half the price of buying a medal from a player. You'd have to be a complete moron to do that so it really wasn't a problem at all.

You claiming that this is some big problem damaging the economy is complete drivel. Lets not forget that all other DQ rewards can be traded in the exact same way, so try fixing the ****ing problem for once instead of just **** us over like usual.

And stop coming out with these bull**** excuses. Just admit you took out the medals so that you could put them in sales and make people cash shop them instead of being able to farm them.

Also, what exactly is the point of removing medals from the game almost entirely. And then having a general summers sale with chips and rep? Who in their right mind is going to cash out on 300k rep and loads of chips when there is literally no feasible way to obtain medals?
As a marketing/business ploy you should have at least kept the medals in until after this sale... You would have made a lot of money. But for some reason you chose to take out medals before hand, which means this sale will completely flop. I guess you decided you'd ****ed your players over enough by removing the medals to **** them over some more by making them throw away even more money before taking them out. A rare sentimental streak in what has otherwise always been a business totally devoted to gaining money and not player satisfaction/loyalty.

I sincerely hope this is just an extension of the april fools joke or something.

frankieraye wrote: »

Hey all, as you may have noticed, we've made some changes to the DQ system, and I wanted to go through them with you.


1: Medal of Glory removed

All items obtained to the DQ system were meant to be bound to your character; this was done to minimize their influence on the in-game economies. Unfortunately, due to an exploit that allowed players to turn untradeable Medals into tradeable Medals, we had to remove them from the DQ Rewards list.

Also, we would liked to have given more notice before removing them, but the last thing we wanted was a huge run on Medals, thus causing even more damage via the exploit, so I am sorry that it had to happen suddenly like this.


2: Chest of Coins added to DQ Vendor List

Ah, the Chest of Coins. This item, as you may know, has had very little value for the past 18 months or so, due to the fact that the coins inside aren't worth the hammer it takes to open it. So we've added them to the Vendor List in an effort to give some value back to it, maybe get a few people back in the Cube of Fate


3: Addition of coin turn-in quest at Jolly Old Jones for 150 DQ points

Intended to be a new way for players to participate in the DQ system, we've created a quest for players to get DQ points, and if it's popular we may look into adding more quests to the DQ list...



So that's about it; feel free to post your thoughts on these. I'd also like to mention that we will be adding new items to the DQ rewards list in the near future.

Sirkura - Raging Tide wrote: »

the dq page isn't working anyway so it still wouldn't help much if they did put them in again.
just like the cake, DQ is a lie QQ
i think they should fix that and the jones blessing before adding or removing stuff x.x

Sirkura - Raging Tide wrote: »

the dq page isn't working anyway so it still wouldn't help much if they did put them in again.
just like the cake, DQ is a lie QQ
i think they should fix that and the jones blessing before adding or removing stuff x.x

Jeremied - Sanctuary wrote: »

I think the reason it's not working is BECAUSE they're adding or removing stuff...
You will be faked, and there won't be cake...PWI murdered our Cube too.
Although the FB blessing has nothing to do with the DQ page and it's probably just some borked coding anyway. =.='''

Bosk - Sanctuary wrote: »

Okay, I read every post in this thread ... yeah I know, but eh, it was maintenance.

There were a few items of advice that I think could provide a reasonable solution. The numbers would work something like this:

1) Add Medals to the Cash Boutique for 5 gold (10 for 45 gold)
2) Add Medals to the Event Boutique for 15 event gold (no discount)

Leave everything else basically as is. Allow metals to be traded or not, it does not matter.

Players who saved up 20,000 DP to get a medal will now have to save up 50,000 DP to get an event card, which will allow them to buy 3 Medals (with a bit of event gold left over). Which is slightly better than the 2.5 medals they would have gotten at 20,000 each, but recognizes the fact that they might not need 3.33 medals. [You still have to save up 50,000 DP even if you only need 1 Medal this way, thus using gold for the last 1 or 2 medals would likely be more prudent.]

Players who just want to cash shop their way to Rank 9 can buy gold with coins or zen and purchase medals.

Players who exploited the **** and are now trying to gouge other players with medals for 25 million coins will be forced back to reasonable prices (5 to 7 million or so).

Player who legitimately cashed in their DP for their medals will suffer a minor disadvantage, as saving the DP would have been better, but the difference would be rather small, and they already have and may have already used their medals to get their gear anyway.

Players who purchased DQ Items with a total of 50,000 DP would have spent about 20 million coins (at 400 per point) to purchase something worth about 16.7 million coins if gold is at 1 million. Thus this would likely drive the value of a DP down, which is only reasonable. [In this example, 1 DP would be worth about 300 coins when gold is at 1 million.]

Since this would only require a change to the Cash Boutique and Event Boutique, it is quite likely something the GMs can do without the developers in China needing to be involved.

If at some time the restriction to the sale of medals is added (non trade-able), that can happen down the road, with those players who have exploited the bug potentially paying for it by having an expensive item stuck in their inventory. But give everyone reasonable notice that this is going to happen so anyone who has been affected by this glitch has a chance to use the medals or move the medals to primary characters, or even give them away before the change happens.


I believe this solution is fair and equitable and very doable. I hope the GMs will consider it or at least something with a similar overall effect.


Good Luck!