Perfect World: Genesis -- New Expansion announced!

MoonUsagi - Heavens Tear · January 2011

Isn't it like NcSoft / Bluehole = L3 and Terra problem ?
Maybe old ASCO team was making their " Terra " right now.
b:bye

There so many project left unfinished because of the company, developer , or economy problem, which trigger the real " creator " to left the company.

b:bye

Even on games like FF b:chuckle

Will be great if these creators can work together for master piece.

Waterfal - Sanctuary · January 2011

@Mooy
damn.. that would've been awesome ._."

Rivi_V - Heavens Tear · January 2011

What Mooy said was some good insight

I got a question. I'v read this somewhere before about Seeker builds, what I'v head the most is seeker build = Sword BM build. But does the seeker get the same amount of HP per Vit as BM?

Trey_B - Lost City · January 2011

its official the expansion is coming out last week of feb that sucks i wanted to play early o well

Elvis_ - Lost City · January 2011

Trey_B - Lost City wrote: »

its official the expansion is coming out last week of feb that sucks i wanted to play early o well

Whered you hear this? (me thinks you talkin out of ur tite A$$

Ursa - Dreamweaver · January 2011

wow Mooy, well, I always said Devs in here have no idea what they are doing and they just fkup the game balance with trial/error.
Mooy post is the proof.
Thanks Mooy, many thanks.

Ruxal - Harshlands · January 2011

While it makes for an interesting story, none of us here have proof to support or negate that post. So I will take it with a grain of salt. However all of us can clearly see that whoever is responsible for the development of the game has been slack in certain areas e.g rubber-banding. Also game balance and work to reward ratios are definitely not well taken care of.

Stubbie - Heavens Tear · January 2011

^^meh in my opinion i think stealth is just one factor that makes sin OP but the main reason is aps and their range damage. If their aps isnt ridiculously fast then people will have enuff time to react : AD, expel , BoC, shrink away ... ^^ i just hate that sumtimes i died w/o charm ticking becoz of the 5 crit in a row b:shocked. Stealth has always been in many games , it is annoying to pk rogue class but other class can still deal with it unlike pwi with its stupid aps rate.

HEALERKIZNA - Heavens Tear · January 2011

Elvis_ - Lost City wrote: »

Whered you hear this? (me thinks you talkin out of ur tite A$$

lol here is were he read it: http://www.perfectworld.com/blog/?p=189791
first sentance.

lol on a side note will seekers be useing dual swords/blades.

Ursa - Dreamweaver · January 2011

Ruxal - Harshlands wrote: »

While it makes for an interesting story, none of us here have proof to support or negate that post. So I will take it with a grain of salt. However all of us can clearly see that whoever is responsible for the development of the game has been slack in certain areas e.g rubber-banding. Also game balance and work to reward ratios are definitely not well taken care of.

so you're basically saying we don't have hard proof, but everything that's happening ingame is actually in support of that post? b:laugh
No one has hard proof, and you won't ever have it on a public forum. What do you want as hard proof? the code base sold by Archosaur to Wanmei and the signed papers of the contract? Come on, don't be ridiculous, judge with the facts that you have in hand, see what conclusion you reach.

@HEALERKIZNA
Stealth is one of the many problems with sins, but not the only one. Their aps and dmg output overshadow absolutely everything ingame. And by overshadow I mean completely obliterate any kind of competition. Being able to deal in certain sittuations about up to 10x more damage than any other class considered DD is unheard of doesn't matter what kind of fkup MMO we're talking about.

Is anything gonna change any time soon? Nah. No way.
For a while I had a small hope they will nerf APS. Now I'm SURE they won't do it, simply because they have no idea how. Anni packs came with gear made by a PManager on a whiteboard. They broke the game mechanics and couldn't figure out how to fix it yet. The bad thing for players is that with this broken mechanic they ar still making money. A lot of them.

Laranda - Heavens Tear · January 2011

Mooy - Heavens Tear wrote: »

The Archosaur Studio was planned to create a large virtual world that has five large cities like Archosaur. The which is base on the five elements. City of the Black Emperor, Ancient Ice, water; City of the Red Emperor, Mandala, fire; City of the White Emperor, Never Fall, metal; City of the Green Emperor, Peace, wood; City of the Yellow Emperor, Archosaur, earth.

Interesting. I have seen stuff like that before, but not quite to that scale.

Mooy - Heavens Tear wrote: »

But because we no longer have Archosaur Studio, we will never get real large expansion like this because the Wanmei don't know the code. Archosaur Studio also known as ACSO, which is short for Archosaur (I know ACSO also mean other thing).

I kinda take issue with this. If people couldn't do a good job working on other people's code, stuff like the open source development would be impossible. Also, additional "Five Element" cities would actually not be as difficult to code as it sounds. It's largely quest and map making which the current dev team has proven they're capable of. The hardest part would probably be letting the cube of fate teleport someone to any "Element City."

That said, the original dev team could have had a better chance to avoid certain issues that have popped up "recently" like aps. The current devs aren't the best at code maintenance either.

Heartstone - Dreamweaver · January 2011

i'd wish what mooy said woulda came true, and not unfinished. sound like it could be very nice QQ.

Centetric - Lost City · January 2011

Mooy - Heavens Tear wrote: »

The main thing sin seem op is stealth, which allow them to stun first, giving huge disadvantage to range classes since they rely on range to give them more time. If Wanmei do let self center AoE to be no target cast and earthguard allow to see sin as the rumor saying, then it may become more balance and also rise the popularity of Earthguard. Earthguard are completely nothing for now, both class waste too many mp. Seeker, vit str based class, need to use skill all the time. Mystic, although base on mag, high mp cost on healing and summon. Not much people is going to play this race until they release Sage/Demon and lvl 79, lvl 100 skills. Most people looking forward to the lvl 79 and lvl 100 skills since all skills they got...really not helping them much.

*Sigh* Got to agree with the guy here... http://bbs.w2i.wanmei.com/viewthread.php?tid=1677705&extra=page%3D2&page=1

This thread maybe remove from the CN forum soon, so I saved it in my computer.

Basicly here is what the thread is about:

The dev of Perfect World, Archosaur Studio, created the game Perfect World. Later, they combine with Wanmei company. But after a few years, the member of Archosaur Studio were fired, or leave. So it end up a half finished game to Wanmei. After they left, all the expansion, like warsong and whatever, are no real expansion, they are some sort of ad to catch people's attention. The Archosaur Studio was planned to create a large virtual world that has five large cities like Archosaur. The which is base on the five elements. City of the Black Emperor, Ancient Ice, water; City of the Red Emperor, Mandala, fire; City of the White Emperor, Never Fall, metal; City of the Green Emperor, Peace, wood; City of the Yellow Emperor, Archosaur, earth. If the Dev from Archosaur Studio are still here, we may get all five cities. Its not surpriseing people in PWI never question about it because people in here don't get all information. The background story from PWCN is not translate into English. With the map we got here, if we expand the whole thing, imagin how large will the world will be. And in this game you don't need to load to other map. But because we no longer have Archosaur Studio, we will never get real large expansion like this because the Wanmei don't know the code. Archosaur Studio also known as ACSO, which is short for Archosaur (I know ACSO also mean other thing).

So what do you, the players from PWI, think? About the the old dev's plan. BTW the author of this thread in Wanmei got banned twice already for posting that, seem like Wanmei is telling him to be quiet...

i LOL'd at how true this was b:surrender

id love to see a map that big tbh. sounds like a good expansion lol (but will sadly never come to pass).

Mooy - Heavens Tear · January 2011

The reason why that guy in Wanmei make a thread about it, is because Wanmei change the story and say 1k Stream is the City of Black Emperor, which everyone who read the background story will know that 1k Stream really isn't City of Black Emperor. Like other post said, there are meant to be a large expansion on North (Water), West (Metal), East (Wood), and South (Fire). This is the background story: http://w2i.wanmei.com/newplayer/begin/20091027/36462.shtml

1. Pangu (everyone know what happened)
2. Begining of Gods
3. Begining of Human
4. Begining of Untamed
5. Begining of Winged Elf
6. Legend of Sage and Demon
7. Bloody Water Disaster
8. Place above Sky
9. Begining of Wraith
10. Begining of Spirit
11. Day of Destory
12. Promise of the Gods
13. Gods Dessert their Children
14. Revival of Trouble
15. Rumor
16. Unicorn Massacre
17. Etherblade Island
18. Sky Covering Wing
19. City of Black Emperor
20. City of White Emperor
21. Heaven's Tear
22. Legend of the Heir of Gods
23. Thousand Stream
24. City of Yellow Emperor
25. Captials of Five Emperor
26. Magical Door
27. Legend of Flying
28. Dreamwaver Port
29. Diary of Twilight Empire
30. Twilight Temple
31. Tideborn's Background Story

So according to the background story, there should be other four city that represent other elements. PW is heavily base on Taoism. They should not miss that. That background stories are short, I should able to translate them pretty fast.

Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973 · January 2011

PWI has a story?

Conavar - Heavens Tear · January 2011

Asterelle - Sanctuary wrote: »

PWI has a story?

Yes but sadly it got lost in translation. They tried to recover it by googling Wanmei ... Hit W and A .. noticed " Wall Street " and greed has been good ever since.

Davitiel - Heavens Tear · January 2011

Wow, interesting revelation there! Thanks for posting! Can't wait to hear the rest of this, especially the story. Our version of the story dosen't really fit perfectly in with quests stories and some places in the map. b:faint

CandyCorn - Raging Tide · January 2011

Can't wait till expasion comes out

Deceptistar - Sanctuary · January 2011

Asterelle - Sanctuary wrote: »

PWI has a story?

yeah

http://pwwiki.levelupgames.ph/index.php/Lore

dunno where the rest are tho

Mooy - Heavens Tear · January 2011

I don't think this website is a good reference...even the class and race as well as other information are incomplete...

I putted the translated part here http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=981092 I hope I can finish all background story about all three races tonight.

Deceptistar - Sanctuary · January 2011

Mooy - Heavens Tear wrote: »

I don't think this website is a good reference...even the class and race as well as other information are incomplete...

I putted the translated part here http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=981092 I hope I can finish all background story about all three races tonight.

well its kinda (alot) incomplete but its good for starters. It explained in 14 paragraphs what the chinese version explained in 1 paragraph.

WhiteVodoo - Raging Tide · January 2011

Centetric - Lost City wrote: »

that truth is in turquoise .
the thing is though that mystic's trap summon can only be summoned when the person is targeted and acts as a summon+ attack. so it cant be healed.
so if a sin were to come up behind you ,it simply would not work the way as you implied. unless ,of course, you were fighting the sin before it went into stealth.

okay, okay, i just got owned on that one, i'll admit it. but there are still acouple good defences for ranged lasses so they can stand a chance. La rock shield wizard, godly physical def, is a ranged class, and the high Pdef gives them more of a chance agenst sins. same goes with La clerics, and same will go with LA mystics. the option is there, and there is a biuld to stand up to it abit, but nobody really uses it, because La on magic users always gets a bad reputation fer some reason, unless yer a cleric, or a fox form veno that is. LA on a veno is better fer fox form, and nobody cares aslong as the cleric can keep them alive.

that being said, while the high Pdef on those ranged users allows them ta put up more of a fight, even with that amount of Pdef, none of them have the hp amounts to stand up to 5.0aps, it's just impossible, so again, thank you pwi game developers for releasing a well balanced game, just nerf 5.0aps already, okay? top it at 2.0, or 2.5 aps tops, and cap a magic user's -% channeling at 25%. sound fair enough?

Deceptistar - Sanctuary · January 2011

Mooy - Heavens Tear wrote: »

People in Wanmei are trying to **** into the information of unrelease lvl 79 lvl100 skills. So far nothing....the name they **** out is "Heaven's Tear" *Sigh*

o.o;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;

pple in Wanmei seem very desperate

Laranda - Heavens Tear · January 2011

WhiteVodoo - Raging Tide wrote: »

top it at 2.0, or 2.5 aps tops, and cap a magic user's -% channeling at 25%. sound fair enough?

Er... I'm a bit weary of capping channeling with the mystics coming. For better or worse, they do have a 5 sec channel on Soul Absorb.

There are probably better ways to balance things out without employing additional caps. May prove better to "adjust" the smaller pieces that allow 5.0 aps to work.

Deceptistar - Sanctuary wrote: »

o.o;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;

pple in Wanmei seem very desperate

If pwi was developed here and not in china, the people here would be trying just as hard. XD

WhiteVodoo - Raging Tide · January 2011

Laranda - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Er... I'm a bit weary of capping channeling with the mystics coming. For better or worse, they do have a 5 sec channel on Soul Absorb.

There are probably better ways to balance things out without employing additional caps. May prove better to "adjust" the smaller pieces that allow 5.0 aps to work.

define "adjust" plz? o.o

Laranda - Heavens Tear · January 2011

WhiteVodoo - Raging Tide wrote: »

define "adjust" plz? o.o

Polite way to say nerf. o.o

WhiteVodoo - Raging Tide · January 2011

Laranda - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Polite way to say nerf. o.o

oh, lol. ^^

Haden - Dreamweaver · January 2011

WhiteVodoo - Raging Tide wrote: »

La rock shield wizard, godly physical def, is a ranged class, and the high Pdef gives them more of a chance agenst sins. same goes with La clerics,

that being said, while the high Pdef on those ranged users allows them ta put up more of a fight, even with that amount of Pdef, ?

you can actually generate high/higher pdef on an all mag wiz by using pdef stones or +1 def level stones in your armor rather than using LA. Your armor defense rating would be congruant to a Bm in all HA with Bell on, possibly higher. LA IS a good build, dont get me wrong, but it takes away too much from a Wiz to me a meaningful build in the end, and makes it much much harder to fight other squishies in the end.

clerics, venos and Psy's can pull off LA for multiple different reasons.
Clerics have a huge amount of buffs that they can cast upon themselves to more than balance the playing field, not to mention casting constant heals.
Venos can get away with Heavy armor due to their "cash shop advantage" of the Nix pet, HA venos btw are frightening, not so much to casters, but to melees and archers, they're not easily trifled with.
Psy's can get away with any set of armor because of their Voodoos. A LA/HA Psychic can be a dominating force in Melee range because of their functional "Bramblehood" buff.
Wizzy's CAN use LA, but if you're not using your mobility to your advantage as a wizard, well you're not playing it smart. Wizzys have the greatest mobility in combat over any other class, being able to leap away father than any class (only class able to catch them is a sin)

the thing about aps that makes people complain is the fact that a 5.0 user can perma spark someone to death. In a fight between a 5.0 sin and any wizz, the fight can truly go either way. As long as the Wiz gets the first stun, he wins.

The issue with primary stun will later on become an issue with Seekers employing a stun-tackle similar to Sins

On the bright side, I guess people will see it coming this time :P

Mooy - Heavens Tear · January 2011

The only way the wiz can stun sin first is sin don't go in stealth, also focus mind help dodge magic attack.

WhiteVodoo - Raging Tide · January 2011

Haden - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Psy's can get away with any set of armor because of their Voodoos. A LA/HA Psychic can be a dominating force in Melee range because of their functional "Bramblehood" buff.

no, no no no, no no no no, no, no.... no.... completely incorrect. psychics can only be functional proporly with arcane armor. with LA or HA equip, they cannot have both a full armor set of their level and a weapon of their level equip at once. therefor, unless they're wearing arcane armor, not a fully functional class.

oh, and how would LA effect being able ta use the jump skill on a wiz, and other "squishies" ain't meh target, melee classes, and archers are. and an La wiz= an archer's worst nightmare, arrow slingin ****...

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