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  • Rivi_V - Heavens Tear
    Rivi_V - Heavens Tear Posts: 94 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Asterelle - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Thats a good question. If partial fire damage in the attack will increase crit + damage then that will be a good benefit to 5.0 archers and BMs who cancel DBB.

    My question still stands. and some more facts to lift it. For example (talking about weapon shard upgrades):

    G8 Ruby Shard gives +64 Fire Attack
    G8 Garnet Shard gives +32 P. Attack
    (only using Ruby as an eg, it could be Topaz - Earth) - You would hardly use Earth as Wiz will always (or most likely) have Earth Barrier to counterpart for their lack of Phy Res.

    L8 HA: Phys. Res.: +832
    Mag. Res.: +355 (all elements)

    L8 AA: Phys. Res.: +93
    Mag. Res.: +835 (all elements)

    L8 LA: Phys. Res.: +357
    Mag. Res.: +555 (all elements)

    Phy dmg shards would do well on AA users (that is a no brainer). But what about LA, what shard is best to use against them? The G8 Ruby or Garnet (presuming all their magic defence are the same)?

    What I can see is all the mele classes adding phy dmg to their attacks where most mele classes are HA. But HA are weak against magic. Its kinda like the saying, fighting fire with fire.

    Original question: The Seeker Heart Burning skill: A 20 second debuff. When you attack the enemy with a Fire or Earth skill, the Critical Strike Rate and Damage of that skill will be increased for that attack. Would that not be good if you had a Earth or Fire shard in wep? Because HA classes are weak with magic attacks, won't these shards do good against them instead of Phy dmg shards?
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  • Derressh - Dreamweaver
    Derressh - Dreamweaver Posts: 806 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Rivi_V - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    My question still stands. and some more facts to lift it. For example (talking about weapon shard upgrades):

    G8 Ruby Shard gives +64 Fire Attack
    G8 Garnet Shard gives +32 P. Attack
    (only using Ruby as an eg, it could be Topaz - Earth) - You would hardly use Earth as Wiz will always (or most likely) have Earth Barrier to counterpart for their lack of Phy Res.

    L8 HA: Phys. Res.: +832
    Mag. Res.: +355 (all elements)

    L8 AA: Phys. Res.: +93
    Mag. Res.: +835 (all elements)

    L8 LA: Phys. Res.: +357
    Mag. Res.: +555 (all elements)

    Phy dmg shards would do well on AA users (that is a no brainer). But what about LA, what shard is best to use against them? The G8 Ruby or Garnet (presuming all their magic defence are the same)?

    What I can see is all the mele classes adding phy dmg to their attacks where most mele classes are HA. But HA are weak against magic. Its kinda like the saying, fighting fire with fire.

    Original question: The Seeker Heart Burning skill: A 20 second debuff. When you attack the enemy with a Fire or Earth skill, the Critical Strike Rate and Damage of that skill will be increased for that attack. Would that not be good if you had a Earth or Fire shard in wep? Because HA classes are weak with magic attacks, won't these shards do good against them instead of Phy dmg shards?

    Not sure on whether it would increase the crit rate and such with the seeker amp, but I say it would.


    But as of right now, here's a good example of why SMART melee classes don't shard their weapons with element shards.

    +10 Barrier Thorn daggers with G11 garnets
    +10 Barrier Thorn daggers with G11 rubies

    When demon sparked, the +300 fire damage from the rubies would never compare to the 2k physical damage lost because of it.
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  • Rivi_V - Heavens Tear
    Rivi_V - Heavens Tear Posts: 94 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Derressh - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Not sure on whether it would increase the crit rate and such with the seeker amp, but I say it would.


    But as of right now, here's a good example of why SMART melee classes don't shard their weapons with element shards.

    +10 Barrier Thorn daggers with G11 garnets
    +10 Barrier Thorn daggers with G11 rubies

    When demon sparked, the +300 fire damage from the rubies would never compare to the 2k physical damage lost because of it.

    I still can't get my head around those numbers... lol, but that is just me. I'm not really a mele player so I don't know anything about them, but I'll take ppls word that phy shards are better for mele classes. So basically elemental shards are next to useless?
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  • Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973
    Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973 Posts: 7,881 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Rivi_V - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    I still can't get my head around those numbers... lol, but that is just me. I'm not really a mele player so I don't know anything about them, but I'll take ppls word that phy shards are better for mele classes. So basically elemental shards are next to useless?

    Lots of physical skills look like "Base damage + 200% weapon attack" or how demon spark is "+500% weapon attack". Your base damage itself is normally like (1+DEX/150+.6)* weapon attack which is like 500% * weapon attack. So much is based off of a multiple of weapon attack. This is why when your weapon does like 1-2k damage your base damage is like 6-10k.

    Garnet increases this weapon attack value while elemental shards do not.
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  • Dutza - Heavens Tear
    Dutza - Heavens Tear Posts: 10 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    btw ... in the end .. any1 know the date of the new serv. ? when will be released ? xD or i can del. PWI ? :P
  • Mayfly - Dreamweaver
    Mayfly - Dreamweaver Posts: 6,094 Arc User
    edited January 2011
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  • yan00
    yan00 Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    how comes all the seekers seen so far use only single sword? y dont they use Dual instead? since they cast skills all the time speed will be the time but alot stronger!

    dont tell me they can only use single o.o
  • Derressh - Dreamweaver
    Derressh - Dreamweaver Posts: 806 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    yan00 wrote: »
    how comes all the seekers seen so far use only single sword? y dont they use Dual instead? since they cast skills all the time speed will be the time but alot stronger!

    dont tell me they can only use single o.o

    No, they can use dual swords. There was a picture of a lowbie one using the first NPC dual swords when the expansion went into the testing phase in china.

    It's just that all their "Special" weapons (fb19, supply stash, rank, etc) are single.
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  • yan00
    yan00 Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Derressh - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    No, they can use dual swords. There was a picture of a lowbie one using the first NPC dual swords when the expansion went into the testing phase in china.

    It's just that all their "Special" weapons (fb19, supply stash, rank, etc) are single.

    phew thank god. i have lunar dual blades, didn't want them to go to waste!!! it seems single swords can reach an interval of up to 2.86/3.33 MAX speed.

    i am 2.00/ 2.86 atm wiv fists, but wiv single i am 1.43/2.00 wiv single sword. it doesn't seem too fast to be an interval seeker o.o. should people go for power rather than interval? i find it hard to decide.

    also another thing, should i be tryin to add more interval, or more CHANNELING? they seem much more skill based, i'm wonderin should i give it more channelin so it has 'instant skill' cast lol.... maybe better than interval?

    btw any news on the pvp vs sins so far?
  • Stubbie - Heavens Tear
    Stubbie - Heavens Tear Posts: 95 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Rivi_V - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    I still can't get my head around those numbers... lol, but that is just me. I'm not really a mele player so I don't know anything about them, but I'll take ppls word that phy shards are better for mele classes. So basically elemental shards are next to useless?

    Elemental shards will works and works better than garnet on players who have high phydef : barb , BM . however it will not works well on mag user ofc and also on mobs around ur lvl yo will not see a big difference in damage. However, elemental shard will make a big difference on lvl 150 mob/boss, it seems to me that the elemental attck added by shards does not affected by lvl 150 mobs/boss increased mag/phy def. Basically it applies the same amount of damage on regualr boss/mob and lvl150 boss/mob.
  • Aubree - Dreamweaver
    Aubree - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,868 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Over 220+ posts. I didnt want to read through all of it so...


    Anyone know the costs of building guild bases in coin, mats etc?
  • Mayfly - Dreamweaver
    Mayfly - Dreamweaver Posts: 6,094 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Reportedly 20 big notes, 500 mysterious chips, 500 warsong emblems, and 500 ultimate substances.
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    Aubree - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,868 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    b:cuteb:thanks

    Mayfly - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Reportedly 20 big notes, 500 mysterious chips, 500 warsong emblems, and 500 ultimate substances.
  • Knownase - Heavens Tear
    Knownase - Heavens Tear Posts: 6,959 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Mayfly - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Reportedly 20 big notes, 500 mysterious chips, 500 warsong emblems, and 500 ultimate substances.

    Need official confirmation! D:


    Anyways, based on this rumor, major factions have already starting funding, donations, etc, etc for their own faction bases. So either its really legit, or everyone is just assuming its true.


    Also...PWi.......Faction Base sales.............? b:chuckle


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  • Mooy - Heavens Tear
    Mooy - Heavens Tear Posts: 404 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Not rumor, SombodyTwo got a screenshot of it.
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  • Yudai - Sanctuary
    Yudai - Sanctuary Posts: 145 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Mayfly - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Reportedly 20 big notes, 500 mysterious chips, 500 warsong emblems, and 500 ultimate substances.

    I thought it was 2000 Ultimate Substances... at least thats what i remember SomebodyTwo saying... any verification on whether its 2000 or 500?
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  • SomebodyTwo - Lost City
    SomebodyTwo - Lost City Posts: 247 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    krittycat wrote: »
    hmm...good Point. I'll Use This In Future:

    Mention Of Another Non-pwe Mmorpg

    How Is That?b:mischievous

    Lol +10
    Yudai - Sanctuary wrote: »
    I thought it was 2000 Ultimate Substances... at least thats what i remember SomebodyTwo saying... any verification on whether its 2000 or 500?



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  • Eoria - Harshlands
    Eoria - Harshlands Posts: 6,118 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    For a guild base, you need:

    1 level 3 guild
    2000 ultimate subs
    500 mysterious chips
    500 warsong emblems
    20 10mil notes

    P.S. I do bet on a guild base sale eventually...but not right away.
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  • Satalia - Heavens Tear
    Satalia - Heavens Tear Posts: 309 Arc User
    edited January 2011
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  • SomebodyTwo - Lost City
    SomebodyTwo - Lost City Posts: 247 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Eoria - Harshlands wrote: »
    For a guild base, you need:

    1 level 3 guild
    2000 ultimate subs
    500 mysterious chips
    500 warsong emblems
    20 10mil notes

    P.S. I do bet on a guild base sale eventually...but not right away.

    Which at the prices per item that I have seen on LC comes to about 512 million coins b:surrender

    Also I agree on a sale sometime down the road. Still though I am REALLY glad that you don't have to have a territory to have a base. b:laugh That's a really smart move on PWE's part. b:victory
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  • GoofySmurf - Raging Tide
    GoofySmurf - Raging Tide Posts: 35 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    will earthgaurd sage/demon books drop?

    i know the tideborn do not and they have been out a good while yet...


    if they DO drop... will the expansion fix it so tideborn does also?
    if the do NOT drop.. that's FOUR classes that have no chance to farm for books


    im a little worried.

    i know some good player that have left the game because making the higher TT;s harder its very difficult to get higher tt gear. Fc + Hypers to level gets very dull after a while, but finding Bh squads is rough when everone is FCing. plus i see so many PAYING barbs to tank fc runs.

    Most, not all, plan to see what the new expansion brings, and if its improvements may return.

    if earthgaurd books do drop, will many tideborns quit the game? or leave behind those characters?

    if they don't drop, what will go on with those 4 classes?

    i know it benefits PWI because they make more money

    but also many spend money on this game for the love of the game.. wich is turning sour


    tho the game brings in many many new players every day.

    i personally plan to make one of each new class, but depending on what the makers of PWI plan with issues... well i just dont know

    i suppose im just very worried, and feel a sense of doom around the game i love


    ps- sorry if this has been brought up b4, i searched , but so many many pages my eyes crossed
  • Mayfly - Dreamweaver
    Mayfly - Dreamweaver Posts: 6,094 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    The 79 and above skills haven't been released yet, so no one knows if the books will drop.
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  • krittycat
    krittycat Posts: 4,187 Community Moderator
    edited January 2011
    And some of the Tideborn skills do drop, so it is only a couple that are un-farmable. I would expect them to fix that in this expansion, along with balancing them to make sure that every class's book has the same chance to drop.
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  • Merenth - Archosaur
    Merenth - Archosaur Posts: 120 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    KrittyCat wrote: »
    And some of the Tideborn skills do drop, so it is only a couple that are un-farmable. I would expect them to fix that in this expansion, along with balancing them to make sure that every class's book has the same chance to drop.

    I really hope they do fix this. Which skills are currently unfarmable and is there anyway to get them?
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  • Mayfly - Dreamweaver
    Mayfly - Dreamweaver Posts: 6,094 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    You can make the missing skills... but when you make a demon/sage book, there's no guarantee which skill you get.
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  • RouxLouka - Dreamweaver
    RouxLouka - Dreamweaver Posts: 511 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Merenth - Archosaur wrote: »
    I really hope they do fix this. Which skills are currently unfarmable and is there anyway to get them?
    Tideform doesn't drop and can't be made. Tideborn starter skills also doesn't drop in fb89.

    Does anyone know if the earthguard have weapon tokens?
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  • Mayfly - Dreamweaver
    Mayfly - Dreamweaver Posts: 6,094 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    It's been reported that everyone gets weapon tokens in the expansion.
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  • Sharki - Dreamweaver
    Sharki - Dreamweaver Posts: 57 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Mayfly - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    It's been reported that everyone gets weapon tokens in the expansion.
    Hm. I wonder what weapon type BMs will get. I'm betting pole.
  • Stubbie - Heavens Tear
    Stubbie - Heavens Tear Posts: 95 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Mooy - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Not rumor, SombodyTwo got a screenshot of it.

    well, the currency of the two versions are different so its not official since Pwi will prolly make the amount of mats bigger/smaller. You never know !!!!
  • Vasilisk - Harshlands
    Vasilisk - Harshlands Posts: 208 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Stubbie - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    well, the currency of the two versions are different so its not official since Pwi will prolly make the amount of mats bigger/smaller. You never know !!!!

    Good joke! b:victory
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